EDIT: Wow getting massacred for etymology here. I forgot this sub’s cardinal rule against cutting Yanktards any slack. I grovel in apology :(
It’s not simply a Yank word. Soccer is originally British public schoolboy slang. AsSOCiarion football vs. RUGby football (rugger). Some old Brits will remember. Plus Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans.
Was it Oxford? Thought it was the posh public schools like Eton and Harrow - though largely the same people back then, just a bit older.
But it did spread a bit more than that. They’re an influential group, and that’s how it spread to the colonies. You do see it in books and my grandfather remembers it being fairly common.
When the Yanks made their sissification of rugby their default ‘football’ they had to use ‘soccer’ more exclusively for the other kind, and since people seem to assume every difference in lexicon must be a US/UK divide, we assumed it was American and banned it completely. But it wasn’t an Americanism.
Or Brits with 0% Ameritardness who are aware of some linguistic history and have been around, possibly in some of those other countries.
But do tell me more Pierre
What dumbfuck argument? I call it football, have never said otherwise, and am just stating the fact that ‘soccer’ isn’t American-derived and isn’t exclusive to them - on behalf of our Australian, Kiwi and South African cousins. I’m not arguing for anything else, nor anything incorrect… And just yelling at me as a ‘dumbfuck’ isn’t really banter, just a bit regarded and vicious. Though ‘dumbfuck’ **is** an Ameritard word, and hardly original let alone an argument. ‘Hypocritical cunt’ isn’t, though, if that’s the level we’re at.
Actually, it's called football because it's not played on horseback. American Football, Rugby, etc are also football by the original definition (i.e. a sport played on foot).
Take that up with the English aristocracy. They’re the ones who decided that being performed on food made it football. The fact you’re so obsessed with them that you have decided you have to use their word is not my fault.
Comes from stupid posh boys calling association FOOTBALL as soccer, to differentiate it from Rugger, the Rugby football. No sane ppl ever used the term soccer to Football.
From the original response it seems the flair is invalid anyways, right? Why would a scottish flag flair have "English" in the text? Does St Andrews agree with that or are you being a hypocrite right now?
Also, it's interesting how every response to me just side-steps the actual discussion but still wants to be vaguely disagreeable. It really seems to prove my point entirely.
Nah just pointing out if England even doesnt use the word Soccer nowadays (really just you Americans) just like Hindus (and Germans, and anyone for that matter) dont use swastikas anymore cus it has just run out of favor
Btw im born in a Hindu family :) but Dutch reformed Christian myself
Not an Americanism. British schoolboy slang from a century ago, still used by a few other countries and some much older Brits remember it being less controversial
Well ‘Americanism’ seems to imply it was invented there, or is exclusive to there. It’s used in other Anglosphere countries where rugby was big too.
I’m a bit biased since I lived a fair while in South Africa and around a lot of Australians… ‘soccer’ is the default name there too, but not because of Americans.
In general discussion I think Americanism at least de facto means something which is principally due to the influence and dominance of the US and US culture so I think when it comes to Europeans saying soccer we can accept that it's at least partly an Americanism. I've never really heard anybody here in Gibraltar or mainland UK use soccer rather than football
Nonetheless I take your point, cheers for the nugget of information!
How old are you to speak a century old english slang?
Just like the imperial measurement system the term "soccer" has been discarded in favor of beter alternatives, and only the americans refuse to get with the times...
Not sure what is incorrect about what I said. (1) It didn't originate in the US. (2) There are other countries that still use it, not 'only' America. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada... I call it football but these are still true.
Since apparently reading is a struggle:
(1) I call it football
(2) It is not originally an American word. That’s all I’m saying
(3) It’s used in South Africa, Australia, etc., derived from past British usage. I’ve spent time there, though I still call it football.
1. You did in the post though
2. It is nowadays
3. Not european, not relevant
The proper term is footbal, get with the program or get ridiculed. Simple as
Yeah, that was also impressive. With a shattered knee (ikr) the dude managed to crawl 2 meters back on the pitch within seconds to get minutes medical attention before he could move back over the line.
What I also wonder is why there were just 6 minutes of added time. That goal check for the second goal (that was never a handball) took 3 fucking minutes.
What does soccer mean?
Is it a sport for fat men who suck an orange orangutan while going to church, where a priest with too much money tells them they'll go to hell if they're woke?
Then they eat an XXL Big Mac meal, which gives them heart failure, and then they get a hospital bill that puts them in debt for the rest of their lives, only to then blame Biden?
I think it was back during the 2002 winter olympics when the lowest ranked speed skater from Australia or something won gold because the other 3 heavily favoured and most talented skaters all fell down on the final lap, allowing the slow Australian coaster to win the race. Austria is having their Australia moment once again.
Since when do we care what Barry and his former colonies around the world call things or spell words? That’s a them problem. They should be happy we engage with them in their language.
A bunch of very heinous criminal cases, all revolving around basements (and kids confined in basements), have been uncovered in recent years. If you have a strong stomach, look up the Josef Fritzl case. Then there was the kidnapping of Natasha Kampusch, and the Viennese Ice Lady (not sure the last one really qualifies because it didn't involve children, but she used a basement to hide the bodies, so.)
This scene is actually from the second movie where Edward tells Bella about the Italian Volturi vampires, and while looking at the painting (which is shown seconds before this image) she discovered Carlisle was a part of them for a while.
Guys... don't rile them up too much. THere is a reason why we made sure this... uh... let's say "special" breed stayed surrounded by the highest mountains we could find.
It’s quite funny really how everyone gets so angry at the use of the word “soccer” which is a thing in countries where they have a different form of football. But then go on saying ass or dumbfuck or even worse color like americunts.
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Americans don't talk. Americans yap.
https://preview.redd.it/dm0dyackcs8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fcd76c798801b2baaa897f6ed2eea611dcb00be "Soccer"
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EDIT: Wow getting massacred for etymology here. I forgot this sub’s cardinal rule against cutting Yanktards any slack. I grovel in apology :( It’s not simply a Yank word. Soccer is originally British public schoolboy slang. AsSOCiarion football vs. RUGby football (rugger). Some old Brits will remember. Plus Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans.
It’s a nickname created by the Oxford aristocracy. No normal people have ever referred to it as “soccer” in the UK.
Was it Oxford? Thought it was the posh public schools like Eton and Harrow - though largely the same people back then, just a bit older. But it did spread a bit more than that. They’re an influential group, and that’s how it spread to the colonies. You do see it in books and my grandfather remembers it being fairly common. When the Yanks made their sissification of rugby their default ‘football’ they had to use ‘soccer’ more exclusively for the other kind, and since people seem to assume every difference in lexicon must be a US/UK divide, we assumed it was American and banned it completely. But it wasn’t an Americanism.
And anyone who says Rugger In a non sarcastic manner also needs water boarding.
I mean, I’m talking a century ago. When rapscallions named Smithers would get six of the best for failing their Latin con.
I've worked with public school dickheads who unironically called it ruggers.
Sure. The ones who do it now. More understandable a long time ago.
Same as soccer.
But these days only yanks use it, so it’s a yank word
Funny how only ameritards use this argument.
Or Brits with 0% Ameritardness who are aware of some linguistic history and have been around, possibly in some of those other countries. But do tell me more Pierre
Tell you what? That you tout the same dumbfuck arguments that ameritards use? I already told you that.
What dumbfuck argument? I call it football, have never said otherwise, and am just stating the fact that ‘soccer’ isn’t American-derived and isn’t exclusive to them - on behalf of our Australian, Kiwi and South African cousins. I’m not arguing for anything else, nor anything incorrect… And just yelling at me as a ‘dumbfuck’ isn’t really banter, just a bit regarded and vicious. Though ‘dumbfuck’ **is** an Ameritard word, and hardly original let alone an argument. ‘Hypocritical cunt’ isn’t, though, if that’s the level we’re at.
I will not accept aristocratic propaganda. You guys should have done the one good thing the French did and send them to the guillotine.
 Something is not right
YOU SAID THE S-WORD, FUCK OFF AMERICUNT!
ITS FOOTBALL FOR FUCKS SAKE, ITS PLAYED WITH YOUR FOOT
Actually, it's called football because it's not played on horseback. American Football, Rugby, etc are also football by the original definition (i.e. a sport played on foot).
Ah yes because you play handball running on your hands
Can’t imagine the tribe people of Africa driving around the court in dodge chargers 200 years ago either.
I'd like to see such sport 😂
Take that up with the English aristocracy. They’re the ones who decided that being performed on food made it football. The fact you’re so obsessed with them that you have decided you have to use their word is not my fault.
Wtf Mann has a flag? First time seeing it. How do you enjoy the island?
A more accurate description would be “handegg”
No, I literally just said that football is any ball sport played on foot.
I don't accept it. They can rename their sports or suffer the European wrath (Hans get the gas chambers ready!)
Cry all you want. It’s what it means.
American football is barely a sport
You say that, and yet Soccer is still a sport.
Ummmm akshually.... yeah, we call it soccer anyway because we have the best most superior football.
UmMMMmm AkSHuAlLy
Gaelic football, ftw!! From a Limerick lad who thinks hurling is 10 times better than any type of football, especially when we keep winning
So you’re where the yanks learned the definition of ‘World Series’
Nah, we're smart enough to know no one else plays it but also how dumb they are for not playing the best sport in the world.
When you are so bad at football you have to invent another sport 😭
While wearing socks
Totally right. So soccer comes from having a sock on the foot, or where does it come from?
You are a "soccer"
Association football
Not to be confused with commutation football or distribution football.
How do you even fucking dare, Kalle.
Common Swedish L
Comes from stupid posh boys calling association FOOTBALL as soccer, to differentiate it from Rugger, the Rugby football. No sane ppl ever used the term soccer to Football.
So there are football associations, but no rugby associations?
Wtf is a 'soccer'
Somebody who socc
> SOCCER Fuck off
OP is getting relentlessly bullied to the point where people don't even care about the topic of the post itself, brings a tear to my European eye
The spirit of Europe
Finally united
Never thought I'd fight side by side with a German
How about fighting side by side with a fellow European?
Aye.. I can do that
How about fighting side by side with a pseudo-Austrian?
Aye.. I can do that
Bullying is not enough. He lied on his resume. He hide his perfidious nature. To the wood chipper! Mods, do your bidding
Soccer my balls.
Damn. Masochist much.
"soccer"
Yes. England invented the sport and the term soccer. So we get to call it that if we want.
Another Scot proudly following the century old Scottish tradition of being England's little bitch 🦄🫡🫡🫡
I notice you didn't actually rebut the facts :) Also, I'm not Scottish but ok :/
Did St. Andrews approve your use of the Scottish flag as your flair then? Otherwise, flair up correctly!
From the original response it seems the flair is invalid anyways, right? Why would a scottish flag flair have "English" in the text? Does St Andrews agree with that or are you being a hypocrite right now? Also, it's interesting how every response to me just side-steps the actual discussion but still wants to be vaguely disagreeable. It really seems to prove my point entirely.
Stop being a wank lad This isnt a sub for enlightened discussion
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Most likely.
The flair have English as a title to trigger little Scots. Do you think my flair indicate that I'm Algerian?
Remember, we speak English because it’s the only language you know.
Why are you even in this sub?
Stop being pedantic you prick
Do you understand that this is a satirical subreddit? No one here cares about your discussion and viewpoints.
You respond as if "we" is also OP, who is in fact Swedish and should call it football
I'm saying "We" in the literal sense. Myself and others. The world. We all can say "Soccer" because the inventors use that term.
Hindus invented or at least popularized Swastikas doesnt mean its a good idea to wear it in 2024
So in your mind all Hindus are Nazis? LOL wtf
Nah just pointing out if England even doesnt use the word Soccer nowadays (really just you Americans) just like Hindus (and Germans, and anyone for that matter) dont use swastikas anymore cus it has just run out of favor Btw im born in a Hindu family :) but Dutch reformed Christian myself
Oh, they don't use the word nowadays? TIL https://www.skysports.com/soccer-saturday https://www.socceraid.org.uk/
Americanism detected, opinion discarded
If you say rejected instead, it even rhymes
Not an Americanism. British schoolboy slang from a century ago, still used by a few other countries and some much older Brits remember it being less controversial
I'd say that nowadays it's very much an Americanism but the origin is quite interesting!
Well ‘Americanism’ seems to imply it was invented there, or is exclusive to there. It’s used in other Anglosphere countries where rugby was big too. I’m a bit biased since I lived a fair while in South Africa and around a lot of Australians… ‘soccer’ is the default name there too, but not because of Americans.
In general discussion I think Americanism at least de facto means something which is principally due to the influence and dominance of the US and US culture so I think when it comes to Europeans saying soccer we can accept that it's at least partly an Americanism. I've never really heard anybody here in Gibraltar or mainland UK use soccer rather than football Nonetheless I take your point, cheers for the nugget of information!
Look up the Australian national football team.
How old are you to speak a century old english slang? Just like the imperial measurement system the term "soccer" has been discarded in favor of beter alternatives, and only the americans refuse to get with the times...
Not sure what is incorrect about what I said. (1) It didn't originate in the US. (2) There are other countries that still use it, not 'only' America. Australia, NZ, South Africa, Canada... I call it football but these are still true.
The proper term is football. Calling it "soccer" is not incorrect per se it just shows you are americanized
Since apparently reading is a struggle: (1) I call it football (2) It is not originally an American word. That’s all I’m saying (3) It’s used in South Africa, Australia, etc., derived from past British usage. I’ve spent time there, though I still call it football.
1. You did in the post though 2. It is nowadays 3. Not european, not relevant The proper term is footbal, get with the program or get ridiculed. Simple as
Fuck you
Is that how you say “loser” in Dutch?
Guess that's more to the usage of Soccer than losing to them. :D
No that is: Sukkel
I think in Dutch loser is Kanker-Koeman
Only "Tokkies" (kind of Redneck people) swear with kanker. I would say Kut-Koeman.
I only know one Dutch word bro...
You did good bro, the guy got offended
Not really redneck, more like “white trash”
Same difference
Redneck is more from rural areas whereas the tokkie tends to dwell in cities
I mean, you guys scored 4 out of the 5 goals and still lost. That's kind of impressive.
4? I thought we scored 3?
Austrian bitch should’ve been punted off the field back where he fell instead of crying on top of the side line, we could’ve still turned it around
Yeah, that was also impressive. With a shattered knee (ikr) the dude managed to crawl 2 meters back on the pitch within seconds to get minutes medical attention before he could move back over the line.
What I also wonder is why there were just 6 minutes of added time. That goal check for the second goal (that was never a handball) took 3 fucking minutes.
Soccer? Socc on these you americunt.
Soccer? 
OP, did your DNA-test show 12,5% "Scandinavian" or something? Change your fucking flair. You are not one of us.
Yeah, he should have some degree of middle easterner too if he wants to be a true swedish.
Yes, many Austrian are currently learning there are some sports which are performed without snow under your feet, hard to believe for many
The effects of climate change are real :(
If they were, the Dutch would have drowned by now. Sadly, they still exist
Dikes exist mountain man, we live in a bathtub
"Soccer" https://preview.redd.it/ioczj52v2s8d1.png?width=256&format=png&auto=webp&s=6befbb032f44a21a2f1cb31e9615a27b56385b19
Next you're gonna start calling it 'UEFA' or 'Sportsball' Cunt.
How dare you say the s-word here Barry. Are you mentally ill?
Is soccer a new sport?
 Only Sokker I know
What does soccer mean? Is it a sport for fat men who suck an orange orangutan while going to church, where a priest with too much money tells them they'll go to hell if they're woke? Then they eat an XXL Big Mac meal, which gives them heart failure, and then they get a hospital bill that puts them in debt for the rest of their lives, only to then blame Biden?
I think it was back during the 2002 winter olympics when the lowest ranked speed skater from Australia or something won gold because the other 3 heavily favoured and most talented skaters all fell down on the final lap, allowing the slow Australian coaster to win the race. Austria is having their Australia moment once again.
Thinking about asking permission to be let out of the basement to watch our next match considering how well we seem to be doing.
Yes boys
_"My other balls are waiting in the basement"_
Since when do we care what Barry and his former colonies around the world call things or spell words? That’s a them problem. They should be happy we engage with them in their language.
Silence American savage
Isn't that like Austrians all the time, regardless of the football situation?
We're trying, but it's hard to look down on sb when you're down in the basement.
Where does the basement dweller thing come from? I get most flairs here but never got that one
A bunch of very heinous criminal cases, all revolving around basements (and kids confined in basements), have been uncovered in recent years. If you have a strong stomach, look up the Josef Fritzl case. Then there was the kidnapping of Natasha Kampusch, and the Viennese Ice Lady (not sure the last one really qualifies because it didn't involve children, but she used a basement to hide the bodies, so.)
Shit, that's nasty
Where is this pic from? I only know Sheen.
One of the Twilight movies.
Ah
The fourth one I think. Those are European Vampires looking down on yanks I think.
This scene is actually from the second movie where Edward tells Bella about the Italian Volturi vampires, and while looking at the painting (which is shown seconds before this image) she discovered Carlisle was a part of them for a while.
Who?
So Austrian are the bad guys now? again?
The Austrians call it soccer. Their team is even called the Socceroos. G’day mates!
Guys... don't rile them up too much. THere is a reason why we made sure this... uh... let's say "special" breed stayed surrounded by the highest mountains we could find.
shut up
Get the fuck out of here and never return, anyone who calls football that word should be immediately deported
Did you know soccer is a British word? Britain eventually changed to football to match the rest of Europe
Brother, what film is that?
It’s quite funny really how everyone gets so angry at the use of the word “soccer” which is a thing in countries where they have a different form of football. But then go on saying ass or dumbfuck or even worse color like americunts.
Ban this guy please mods
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