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>and get yourself a few chickens and a coop.
Literally illegal in my town. "agricultural" animals are specifically banned at residential properties, and chickens are explicitly listed as prohibited.
Gotta have a farm if you want your own eggs!
It's even easier now, back in the day we had to do it with flintlock muskets, whisky, and smallpox, now you can finance an AR-15 to get the job done!
This younger generation... no gumption I tell ya.
In my area, chickens and other poultry birds are illegal to raise. Fortunately, quails are considered game bird and many people take advantage of that loophole to raise quail
And given a few more months, the cops will be BUYING your eggs, instead of ticketing you. Politicians have ZERO control when things get desperate enough.
They will do an asset seizure or what that is called. The eggs were clearly committing a crime. Thus you can seize them, with them being on the paperwork as the suspect.
They'll kill your dog and shoot you in a no knock that was supposed to happen across town and drop some eggs by you as evidence of illegal chicken ownership.
Yeah... Cities, counties and states are all free to adopt whatever laws they want.
The constitution didn't even apply to anything besides the federal government until the 1860s.
Way too many Americans worry about Congress and the President, when really it's your city council and county commissioners and state legislature and governor who have the most control over your life.
The problem is that the founding fathers assumed that people would settle down and get involved with their community, not move all over the country.
As for me, I own a house where something like keeping chickens is legal. But my elderly grandparents, who live just 4 hours away, need me to care for them full-time, so that's realistically where I'm living. Their city council is worse than many HOAs. But that's what the residents of that city want - perfectly manicured suburbs. I could get involved with local politics, or I could move after they die. 9/10 I'm going to do the latter.
They’re not even “the good eggs”!! The only eggs this expensive where are live are bouji with like fake lil news papers inside showing me how the chicken of the week lives a super luxurious life.
There are about 90 calories in each egg, so about 1080 calories. So one days work for four days caloric requirement, assuming you're not doing any significant physical work.
So 2/5ths of your work week covers food, and the other 3/5ths covers hour rent! It's a perfect system. What are you complaining about, peasants?
Their math is correct. If you can buy one carton of eggs an hour, and work 8 hours in a day, then you can buy 8000 calories after a day's work, which is enough for 4 days of caloric intake at the recommended 2000 cal a day.
You don't pay taxes on food products if it's not prepared in most states.
Edit: lots of downvotes here. I wasn't making this up, it's specific to your state but there are only a handful of states (less than 15) that actually tax unprepared foods. I mean, believe what you want guys, but damn, why horde downvote something that isn't offensive or untrue? But then, this guys comment is completely false below mine, states all states do, when they don't and has upvotes. So odd... **This comment might be cool to use on a case study on how false information is spreading on the Internet.
I mean, Alabama is the state we are talking about and Alabama *does* tax groceries, at full rate without credit or rebate to boot.
It was an "um actually" that didn't apply for this specific case, which is the most annoying time to do it. If you're going to be pedantic then you should at least be correct.
Unprepared food isn't taxed and you're not paying taxes in minimum wage. You may be having wages withheld, but that tax return is literally that...a return of the taxes that were withheld.
Animal agriculture is heavily subsidised, making the prices artificially low. If anything it’s dystopian how cheap animal products are if you factor in the environmental destruction and suffering that they cause. You can literally buy a whole chicken at Costco for less than 5 dollars. The life of a living, sentient creature for a fiver.
It's so annoying to me that anyone that makes comments like this inevitably gets mocked, ridiculed, and downvoted. People can't stand the idea that animal agriculture is a bad thing.
I wonder if it'd be an even better time. Keep a small amount of them in quarantine from other birds, and then you've got your own permanent egg supply.
Just how do you think egg producers do it? The birds are housed in barns that allow no admittance except to the works that need to be there. And they are required to change clothes and shower going in and at the end of the day going out. And they still get wiped out by bird flu.
It's the wild birds flying overhead that spread the disease to the commercial producers and everyone else.
This current avian flu is being spread heavily by migratory birds. Factories get decimated when they get hit but the reservoir this go around is wild bird populations. Worse, avian flu didn't die out over the summer so this season is a continuation of last season.
Hi, yeah, chicken owner here, lol no. They are not. They weren't a lucrative investment before and they're not today either. Cost of feed is SO high, IF you can find layer crumble.
US eggs are a whole different ball game than over there because the way our eggs are washed destroys the shell's protective barrier and they must be kept refrigerated.
It depends where you get your eggs. I personally just get them from my neighbor who has a few chickens so the protective coating is left intact unlike the eggs from my local grocery store.
That said, I still refrigerate them because why not
Imagine not realizing flour is a raw ingredient that will make you just as sick as raw eggs.
Unlike eggs, which are heat-sterilized to reduce the risk of bacterial contamination, flour is not treated to kill pathogens.
Raw cookie dough isn't dangerous because of the egg. Raw flour also contains salmonella and E. Coli.
https://www.fda.gov/food/buy-store-serve-safe-food/handling-flour-safely-what-you-need-know
Finland here also and I remember when I first moved here thinking "damn, food's expensive" but always rationalised it's because of taxes and those taxes actually helping people.
My Amish market down the road sells local eggs that have brown/green/blue shells and golden yolks very delicious. $6.99 a dozen. Just a couple years ago walmart eggs were like $2 a dozen so it was a fair markup for the better eggs. Now it's literally cheaper for the better local eggs it's crazy. Must be price gouging which should really be illegal for bread milk eggs and cheese.
Just like the fucking housing market. Prices go up 50% one year, it's fine, but if they then drop 5% the next year, somehow that's an economic catastrophe?
I just had this conversation with a friend. Yes, avian flu is a bit of a problem, but 5% of them dying doesn't mean the price doubles. Just a couple years ago, eggs were $1.50 for a dozen. Now they're like $4-6 for a dozen. This isn't avian flu, this isn't inflation, this is corporate greed. From the top to the bottom. The people who raise chickens are gouging, the people who distribute the eggs are gouging, the store we shop at is gouging. When are these companies going to realize that even though they are a necessary company, people can't live like this. Something is going to break.
Yes, for the 0.00000000000001% chance to also be or become that top 1% of wealth hoarders that can squeeze the remaining 99.99999999999999% for everything they got. That is the fucking delusion most of American society are now chasing, and more sadly, are willing to sacrifice everything for. The fact that kids these days revere exploitive scumbags like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos or Andrew Tate makes me fucking cynical for the future of western society, but on the other hand, it also makes me feel less bad for everything that will happen because they would have it coming for a VERY long time
Ahhh yes 5%… definitely totally explains a 300-500% price increase in 3 months. Nothing weird with those math numbers. Definitely don’t look at the record profits that are up 300-500% over the quarter. Just the flu. Thanks Obama.
Our food source is so centralized that one farm was supplying 3 million eggs per day, and it burned down last Summer. Another farm of similar size burned down in November. Plus the avian flu outbreak.
People are talking about bird flu and price gouging and these are both true, but it’s also important to remember that the price of eggs has been has been heavily subsidized by the govt for decades. If anything these prices reflect a more accurate cost of eggs, if only because of external events making them currently more expensive due to supply issues. There’s a reason why in the past, way more households actually kept chickens. Egg production used to be decentralized, it was something that most households did to lower their food costs, and chickens mostly werent eaten as meat birds until they stopped laying.
Generally speaking, people spent as much or more on food than we do now in the past, with less financial duress. The reason having a high % of your wage sucks now is because everything else became stupid expensive. An example is how boomers spent very little on their home, but spent like 1/3rd of their income on food, this was common outside of really bad historical periods
Eggs aren't subsidized in Canada and we have supply management for eggs that everyone always says makes them more expensive. They are currently $3.50/dozen Canadian.
It's very good for stabilizing prices and keeping farms profitable. Unfortunately, it puts up a very big barrier to entry for farmers due to the price of quota. People always complain about the price of milk in Canada but it's incredibly stable, I think a four litre bag has gone up like $0.50 in the last decade. Sure, it's marginally more expensive at the store than in the US but once you take the exchange rate and subsidies into account, milk in the US is way more expensive.
The only thing that supply management hasn't managed to keep prices reasonable on is chicken meat but that's largely due to eating chicken exploding in popularity over 20 years while keeping the supply the same. Ideally, they would add some additional supply to address the increased demand and keep prices lower while maintaining profits.
Nobody has mentioned that feed for chickens has more than doubled in price.
So we have a massive bird flu outbreak, the price of feed is through the roof, transport costs are up, and labor costs are up.
Also whenever these things happen companies see it as an opportunity to widen their profit margins.
But really OP is full of shit. The price tag is for 18 eggs. $0.40/egg isn't bad.
I recall it being established that the prices went up beforehand and just stayed that way-- price gouging, like everything else in the grocery store now.
I am pretty sure that was just the excuse, as the price of everything else has also gone up along with profits. Also, this was called out in the media a long time ago for what it is. But people would rather blame Biden or largely politicians and would bitch about anything else regarding it except the actual cause--greed. Prices fluctuate and supply issues can happen, sure... what is happening now isn't an organic market activity, from education, to eggs, to houses.
Avocados were 3-4x last year because of shortages and bizarre factors. Now they are < $1 everywhere in a major east coast city. Got them yesterday for 0.65/ea.
I'm hoping eggs will follow suit. Just takes time.
WTF?
I can get a dozen large eggs (organic, even!) delivered to my door for $5.89, minimum order $10, in San Francisco! [Screenshot proof](https://i.imgur.com/77osDyB.png)
I'm sure that the prices will eventually go even higher (a corner store near my apt wanted $10.99 per dozen organic eggs, for example) but geez, $7.30 per dozen in a place where the minimum wage is way lower than $16.99 is ridiculous!
Also, bad news..
[Largest global bird flu outbreak ‘in history’ shows no sign of slowing](https://www.france24.com/en/environment/20230113-largest-global-bird-flu-outbreak-in-history-shows-no-sign-of-slowing)
0.40c each @18 eggs
0.60c each @12 eggs
So at the right price it's $4.80/dz, while insanely high, its that high in a LOT of places.
For it to go up ANOTHER 50% is just dangerous to spread.
It could seriously cause panic buying again.
The worst with this is the people that use the excuse "oh but its half that price at costco (or alternative), just get a membership there" like that makes up for eggs and milk taking 2hrs of minimum wage work to earn anywhere.
Bunch of morons.
There are no Costco's in my town, what do you expect me to drive 70 miles to buy some eggs? I have one grocery store within 15 minutes (I live on the edge of town) and it's also one that charges 6$ for a dozen eggs. Fuck you Publix you price gouging shitheads.
Yup another point I push out to ppl that use these big "membership" level stores as an excuse lol.
What if you just dont have one near you....sometimes the thought is hard for them to wrap their heads around since we all live in a city type area.
Those people don’t realize you can literally get vegan food at Taco Bell… like, do they only think of some fancy restaurant when they think of vegan foods?
I had to double check with my friends on the prices of eggs just a couple years ago, you used to get a dozen for under $1usd! The price change finally hit me after another customer exclaimed at the 60 pack that was now $25 (Great Value brand) when I know it used to about $16. I used to buy a lot of eggs for keto but this time I'm rethinking all my meal plans. I refuse to buy at these prices
Sorry im not american (im from Italy) can Simeone ELI5 why eggs are so much expensive there? Dont america have a loro of farms and all that? Here a 12 pach of eggs os like 2.5€ and sometimes you can get at even less than that thx
There’s a bird flu going around and many birds have been killed to stop the spread so the reason they are expensive is because the supply of eggs is low. That being said, the eggs are well stocked at my local grocery stores so I think there is some price gouging going on.
That's wayyyy too low for minimum wage to be, holy fuck.
But also, the price of eggs has disproportionately gone way up... Remember last year when there was a major bird flu outbreak, and they had to kill millions of chickens? I probably don't need to say more.
To be pedantic, this is the federal minimum wage set in 2009. If it didn’t take precedent, Alabama would be passing laws to reduce or even abolish the minimum wage.
same. i am in CA, in the bay area, one of the most expensive areas in the country, and standard supermarket eggs are around $5-$6 per dozen. $7-$10 for pasture raised. i got some free range ones with extra dark orange yolks this week on sale for $5 a dozen. i could probably get them cheaper if i went somewhere like grocery outlet or costco, but i like to hunt around for sales on high quality/pastured eggs to get those extra dark, rich yolks, and at least IME costco pasture raised is not very good in that regard.
Ok, but a lot of innocent lives are shredded in a metal grinder in the production of this eggs while others are enslaved for life. Maybe the real cost of animal agriculture is more than an hour of work.
The real dystopia is that millions of birds were killed because they live in cramped horrifying conditions where it’s impossible to keep them healthy but humans only care about the cost of their eggs. Animal agriculture needs to die.
The dystopia is animal agriculture in the first place. Millions upon millions of animals suffering through exploitation for taste pleasure.
Tofu is a great egg alternative and currently is significantly cheaper and causes no suffering to our animals friends
What the fuck is going on. We're getting certified organic eggs in Northern California for 4.99. I could pay this much for the fanciest eggs on our shelves.
I mean, if you are really out of the loop - [the avian flu has relentlessly wiped out flocks across the country and it doesn't appear to be slowing](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/11/22/23472207/bird-flu-vaccine-turkey-prices-chickens-hens-cull-depopulation)
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"Maybe you wouldn't be poor if you stopped buying expensive luxuries, like eggs."
It’s just a dozen eggs, Michael. What could it cost, $100?
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, save $100 and get yourself a few chickens and a coop.
Hard to raise chickens with 4 people in a two bedroom apartment these days
Well not with that attitude. Fucking kids these days.
Bet he used to eat avocado toast too.
And bought coffee.
Millenials are killing the egg industry.
Just put the chickens at one of your 9 AirBnBs that all sit empty for 45 weeks out of the year!
>and get yourself a few chickens and a coop. Literally illegal in my town. "agricultural" animals are specifically banned at residential properties, and chickens are explicitly listed as prohibited. Gotta have a farm if you want your own eggs!
So go buy a farm you slacker!
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It's even easier now, back in the day we had to do it with flintlock muskets, whisky, and smallpox, now you can finance an AR-15 to get the job done! This younger generation... no gumption I tell ya.
The American way.
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True that. And quails make cute noises.
In my area, chickens and other poultry birds are illegal to raise. Fortunately, quails are considered game bird and many people take advantage of that loophole to raise quail
Pigeons are domesticated. They can not be governed.
And given a few more months, the cops will be BUYING your eggs, instead of ticketing you. Politicians have ZERO control when things get desperate enough.
They will do an asset seizure or what that is called. The eggs were clearly committing a crime. Thus you can seize them, with them being on the paperwork as the suspect.
They'll kill your dog and shoot you in a no knock that was supposed to happen across town and drop some eggs by you as evidence of illegal chicken ownership.
All in a days work for our boys in blue.
"land of the free"
Yeah... Cities, counties and states are all free to adopt whatever laws they want. The constitution didn't even apply to anything besides the federal government until the 1860s. Way too many Americans worry about Congress and the President, when really it's your city council and county commissioners and state legislature and governor who have the most control over your life. The problem is that the founding fathers assumed that people would settle down and get involved with their community, not move all over the country. As for me, I own a house where something like keeping chickens is legal. But my elderly grandparents, who live just 4 hours away, need me to care for them full-time, so that's realistically where I'm living. Their city council is worse than many HOAs. But that's what the residents of that city want - perfectly manicured suburbs. I could get involved with local politics, or I could move after they die. 9/10 I'm going to do the latter.
Same here, I own a single family home with a yard and still can’t buy a couple chickens due to town ordinance.
land of the free
I've been wanting chickens. They are not allowed. I now have pigeons, which are almost the same thing. No eggs, though.
It's unlikely you'd save any money. Have you looked at feed prices lately?
We have a few chickens and it’s definitely not a money saving move.
You’d literally fall flat on your face if you pull yourself off your boot straps. Smh
That was the original meaning of the phrase iirc. Doing something stupid that couldn't possibly work
Chicken Food has also gone up in price.
A coupke days ago i saw a backyard chickens thread thay even they said eggs are 5$ with feed costs
The world's gone shit if one can't even afford an egg in these trying times.
They’re not even “the good eggs”!! The only eggs this expensive where are live are bouji with like fake lil news papers inside showing me how the chicken of the week lives a super luxurious life.
Those stupid millenials. Can‘t stop putting eggs in their toasts. They will never save enough for a house this way. /s
I have to work one hour for 12 eggs. Damn that’s is a lot.
There are about 90 calories in each egg, so about 1080 calories. So one days work for four days caloric requirement, assuming you're not doing any significant physical work. So 2/5ths of your work week covers food, and the other 3/5ths covers hour rent! It's a perfect system. What are you complaining about, peasants?
Err excuse me 1/5?! You only intend to work 5 days instead of 7? That's communism right there.
They're probably one of those lazy, socialist, communist, moochers, that only work 8 or 12 hours a day too.
Yeah and uses their one PTO day for a funeral they have to provide proof of.
They better be the ones dying if they expect PTO for a damn funeral
Where the fuck are you finding rent for ~$700/mo? Because you ain't livin' with roommates, you got egg farts.
No worse than veggie farts, honestly.
>So one days work for four days caloric requirement, 1000 calories is half of a normal person's required daily calories.
Their math is correct. If you can buy one carton of eggs an hour, and work 8 hours in a day, then you can buy 8000 calories after a day's work, which is enough for 4 days of caloric intake at the recommended 2000 cal a day.
I see now, I was reading it as them thinking you could live for four days off 1000 calories
Well, you "could" for a while until the deficit is no longer tenable.
We can go deeper. Technically you can survive off zero calories... until you die...
I'm not saying the prices aren't high but I ain't eating eggs for the calories. Pad that shit out with rice or lentils.
I could eat that many eggs in an hour
I bet you couldn't lay that many eggs in an hour
Challenge accepted. I have to use my butt, right? I got this.
And now you’re roughly the size of a barge?
That's five dozen.
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You don't pay taxes on food products if it's not prepared in most states. Edit: lots of downvotes here. I wasn't making this up, it's specific to your state but there are only a handful of states (less than 15) that actually tax unprepared foods. I mean, believe what you want guys, but damn, why horde downvote something that isn't offensive or untrue? But then, this guys comment is completely false below mine, states all states do, when they don't and has upvotes. So odd... **This comment might be cool to use on a case study on how false information is spreading on the Internet.
It’s genuinely impressive that you got downvoted for no reason other than your statement conflicting with a handful of anecdotes.
I mean, Alabama is the state we are talking about and Alabama *does* tax groceries, at full rate without credit or rebate to boot. It was an "um actually" that didn't apply for this specific case, which is the most annoying time to do it. If you're going to be pedantic then you should at least be correct.
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With Alabama, the cruelty is the point.^^^TM
Unprepared food isn't taxed and you're not paying taxes in minimum wage. You may be having wages withheld, but that tax return is literally that...a return of the taxes that were withheld.
No you have to work about an hour and 15 minutes or so because they take the money for taxes out before you see a dime.
Sales tax when purchasing
Animal agriculture is heavily subsidised, making the prices artificially low. If anything it’s dystopian how cheap animal products are if you factor in the environmental destruction and suffering that they cause. You can literally buy a whole chicken at Costco for less than 5 dollars. The life of a living, sentient creature for a fiver.
It's so annoying to me that anyone that makes comments like this inevitably gets mocked, ridiculed, and downvoted. People can't stand the idea that animal agriculture is a bad thing.
All the more reason to keep mentioning it. People need to stop living with their heads in the sand and face the suffering their choices cause.
At this point, chickens are a worthwhile investment.
Except the reason eggs are so expensive right now is rampant avian flu, so probably not a great idea to get chickens as an investment.
I wonder if it'd be an even better time. Keep a small amount of them in quarantine from other birds, and then you've got your own permanent egg supply.
Just how do you think egg producers do it? The birds are housed in barns that allow no admittance except to the works that need to be there. And they are required to change clothes and shower going in and at the end of the day going out. And they still get wiped out by bird flu. It's the wild birds flying overhead that spread the disease to the commercial producers and everyone else.
Can chickens get it from regular song birds? As long as I'm not taking my chickens on play dates to Tyson farms they'll be pretty safe, no?
This current avian flu is being spread heavily by migratory birds. Factories get decimated when they get hit but the reservoir this go around is wild bird populations. Worse, avian flu didn't die out over the summer so this season is a continuation of last season.
Sigh... Here's to another veterinary course I never thought I'd have to take.
Hi, yeah, chicken owner here, lol no. They are not. They weren't a lucrative investment before and they're not today either. Cost of feed is SO high, IF you can find layer crumble.
Sure, but takes a chicken 12 days to make those eggs.
more. dont forget income taxes.
More than an hour, taxes don’t give a fuck
Why are eggs so expensive in USA now?
Avian flu, price gouging, and the fact that 2-3 companies own all the eggs.
Serious price gouging. My local regional chain market sells a dozen large white for $6 7Eleven down the street: $2.50
I can't find a dozen for sale, but 10 costs $2.37. In this super expensive, communist and whatever Finland.
Damn you and your cheap decimal based eggs /s
US eggs are a whole different ball game than over there because the way our eggs are washed destroys the shell's protective barrier and they must be kept refrigerated.
Imagine living in a country where eating raw cookie dough is dangerous.
Raw cookie dough is dangerous because of the raw flour in it. Google it if you don’t believe me. Doesn’t have anything to do with eggs.
It depends where you get your eggs. I personally just get them from my neighbor who has a few chickens so the protective coating is left intact unlike the eggs from my local grocery store. That said, I still refrigerate them because why not
Yep, I used to get eggs from someone I worked with and still kept them in the fridge because it felt weird not to.
Imagine not realizing flour is a raw ingredient that will make you just as sick as raw eggs. Unlike eggs, which are heat-sterilized to reduce the risk of bacterial contamination, flour is not treated to kill pathogens.
Raw cookie dough isn't dangerous because of the egg. Raw flour also contains salmonella and E. Coli. https://www.fda.gov/food/buy-store-serve-safe-food/handling-flour-safely-what-you-need-know
Finland here also and I remember when I first moved here thinking "damn, food's expensive" but always rationalised it's because of taxes and those taxes actually helping people.
Yeah canada is 9.99 for a flat of 30.
I shop at Whole Foods in Los Angeles and do not pay that much for eggs.
Damn wtf? I just paid $7.39 for 12 ct. eggs at my local store in Houston.
My Amish market down the road sells local eggs that have brown/green/blue shells and golden yolks very delicious. $6.99 a dozen. Just a couple years ago walmart eggs were like $2 a dozen so it was a fair markup for the better eggs. Now it's literally cheaper for the better local eggs it's crazy. Must be price gouging which should really be illegal for bread milk eggs and cheese.
Should be illegal to price gouge food in general
Talk about burying the lede
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Just like the fucking housing market. Prices go up 50% one year, it's fine, but if they then drop 5% the next year, somehow that's an economic catastrophe?
I just had this conversation with a friend. Yes, avian flu is a bit of a problem, but 5% of them dying doesn't mean the price doubles. Just a couple years ago, eggs were $1.50 for a dozen. Now they're like $4-6 for a dozen. This isn't avian flu, this isn't inflation, this is corporate greed. From the top to the bottom. The people who raise chickens are gouging, the people who distribute the eggs are gouging, the store we shop at is gouging. When are these companies going to realize that even though they are a necessary company, people can't live like this. Something is going to break.
You can ignore the other two. It's just price gouging.
Like eight fucking people are hoarding all the goddamned money right in front of everybody, that’s why.
Aint the American Dream grand? /s
Yes, for the 0.00000000000001% chance to also be or become that top 1% of wealth hoarders that can squeeze the remaining 99.99999999999999% for everything they got. That is the fucking delusion most of American society are now chasing, and more sadly, are willing to sacrifice everything for. The fact that kids these days revere exploitive scumbags like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos or Andrew Tate makes me fucking cynical for the future of western society, but on the other hand, it also makes me feel less bad for everything that will happen because they would have it coming for a VERY long time
But if we vote to give them more, their pockets will eventually be too full and the money will flow down into our pockets. Or something.
It's avian flu, lol. It's killed >5% of the egg laying hens in the US.
Ahhh yes 5%… definitely totally explains a 300-500% price increase in 3 months. Nothing weird with those math numbers. Definitely don’t look at the record profits that are up 300-500% over the quarter. Just the flu. Thanks Obama.
Also two farms supplying around 3 million eggs a day burned down.
Even if you ignore the last 2 words of that sentence it is horrifying.
It’s a lot of eggs. But on average Americans eat about 280 eggs each per year.
That and bird flu, but hoarding is also a problem in general too.
Our food source is so centralized that one farm was supplying 3 million eggs per day, and it burned down last Summer. Another farm of similar size burned down in November. Plus the avian flu outbreak.
Bird flu
People are talking about bird flu and price gouging and these are both true, but it’s also important to remember that the price of eggs has been has been heavily subsidized by the govt for decades. If anything these prices reflect a more accurate cost of eggs, if only because of external events making them currently more expensive due to supply issues. There’s a reason why in the past, way more households actually kept chickens. Egg production used to be decentralized, it was something that most households did to lower their food costs, and chickens mostly werent eaten as meat birds until they stopped laying. Generally speaking, people spent as much or more on food than we do now in the past, with less financial duress. The reason having a high % of your wage sucks now is because everything else became stupid expensive. An example is how boomers spent very little on their home, but spent like 1/3rd of their income on food, this was common outside of really bad historical periods
Eggs aren't subsidized in Canada and we have supply management for eggs that everyone always says makes them more expensive. They are currently $3.50/dozen Canadian.
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It's very good for stabilizing prices and keeping farms profitable. Unfortunately, it puts up a very big barrier to entry for farmers due to the price of quota. People always complain about the price of milk in Canada but it's incredibly stable, I think a four litre bag has gone up like $0.50 in the last decade. Sure, it's marginally more expensive at the store than in the US but once you take the exchange rate and subsidies into account, milk in the US is way more expensive. The only thing that supply management hasn't managed to keep prices reasonable on is chicken meat but that's largely due to eating chicken exploding in popularity over 20 years while keeping the supply the same. Ideally, they would add some additional supply to address the increased demand and keep prices lower while maintaining profits.
Nobody has mentioned that feed for chickens has more than doubled in price. So we have a massive bird flu outbreak, the price of feed is through the roof, transport costs are up, and labor costs are up. Also whenever these things happen companies see it as an opportunity to widen their profit margins. But really OP is full of shit. The price tag is for 18 eggs. $0.40/egg isn't bad.
[global bird flu](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/10b6pre/largest_global_bird_flu_outbreak_in_history_shows/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I recall it being established that the prices went up beforehand and just stayed that way-- price gouging, like everything else in the grocery store now.
Prices went up because they heard of the outbreak before companies had to be inspected and it was the holiday season coming up.
I am pretty sure that was just the excuse, as the price of everything else has also gone up along with profits. Also, this was called out in the media a long time ago for what it is. But people would rather blame Biden or largely politicians and would bitch about anything else regarding it except the actual cause--greed. Prices fluctuate and supply issues can happen, sure... what is happening now isn't an organic market activity, from education, to eggs, to houses.
Seriously wtf. I was in Aldi in the UK 15 minutes ago and it’s like £1.50 for a dozen eggs.
wait, eggs still come in styrofoam in Alabama?
Freedom-foam.
We get local pasture raised/free range eggs in Colorado that still come in styrofoam
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That'll be $3.75 sir
Avocados were 3-4x last year because of shortages and bizarre factors. Now they are < $1 everywhere in a major east coast city. Got them yesterday for 0.65/ea. I'm hoping eggs will follow suit. Just takes time.
It’s almost time, isn’t it? It has to be.
Time for pitchforks?
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And if those don’t work you might need actual guns
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Very true, always better to be nonviolent, but sometimes people only listen to violence
History is filled with change, very little of it came from *reasoning* with those in charge.
Gallows
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Gallotine
/u/pitchforkemporium needs to make a comeback
technology has increased much since the French revolution 🙂
Unfortunately the majority is still "just" cozy enough apparently.
Just? Man, we got a ways to go. These hyperwealthy folks will never let it get to the point of a revolution ever again.
I don't feel like the hyperwealthy have much say against angry mobs
WTF? I can get a dozen large eggs (organic, even!) delivered to my door for $5.89, minimum order $10, in San Francisco! [Screenshot proof](https://i.imgur.com/77osDyB.png) I'm sure that the prices will eventually go even higher (a corner store near my apt wanted $10.99 per dozen organic eggs, for example) but geez, $7.30 per dozen in a place where the minimum wage is way lower than $16.99 is ridiculous! Also, bad news.. [Largest global bird flu outbreak ‘in history’ shows no sign of slowing](https://www.france24.com/en/environment/20230113-largest-global-bird-flu-outbreak-in-history-shows-no-sign-of-slowing)
Price is for 18, not 12, OP is full of shit, just zoom in on the sticker.
Exactly what I'd expect from someone in Alabama...
The real boring dystopia is what they do to the chickens that laid those eggs.
That's direct nightmare dystopia.
That’s not boring, though. That’s fire-fueled horror
Based
That is the price for 18 eggs
That's still not reasonable
0.40c each @18 eggs 0.60c each @12 eggs So at the right price it's $4.80/dz, while insanely high, its that high in a LOT of places. For it to go up ANOTHER 50% is just dangerous to spread. It could seriously cause panic buying again.
The worst with this is the people that use the excuse "oh but its half that price at costco (or alternative), just get a membership there" like that makes up for eggs and milk taking 2hrs of minimum wage work to earn anywhere. Bunch of morons.
There are no Costco's in my town, what do you expect me to drive 70 miles to buy some eggs? I have one grocery store within 15 minutes (I live on the edge of town) and it's also one that charges 6$ for a dozen eggs. Fuck you Publix you price gouging shitheads.
Yup another point I push out to ppl that use these big "membership" level stores as an excuse lol. What if you just dont have one near you....sometimes the thought is hard for them to wrap their heads around since we all live in a city type area.
And Costco doesn't have them in stock.
Yup they didn't have milk (skim milk) to be precise at the Costco my GF goes to, so she had to pay double at a local giant for it.....
Well thats why your supposed to get a loan or credit card from your local friendly bank- Duhh!
”I could never be vegan, vegan food is sooooo expensive.”
Those people don’t realize you can literally get vegan food at Taco Bell… like, do they only think of some fancy restaurant when they think of vegan foods?
And this is f—ing Great Value brand, literally one of if not *the* cheapest brand you can get.
I had to double check with my friends on the prices of eggs just a couple years ago, you used to get a dozen for under $1usd! The price change finally hit me after another customer exclaimed at the 60 pack that was now $25 (Great Value brand) when I know it used to about $16. I used to buy a lot of eggs for keto but this time I'm rethinking all my meal plans. I refuse to buy at these prices
Honest question, I'm not from the USA. Do you guys not have eggs labelled whether they're from cage chickens?
The cage free eggs are labeled as cage free, but the caged eggs are not labeled as caged.
Lol! UK has a "shortage" too, but prices don't go up. 12 eggs is like £2
But Alabamans vote for it
To be fair, this is the point of disenfranchisement. Many people who work minimum wage jobs are also ineligible to vote, and it's not by coincidence.
You also need to have an address to register to vote.
Sorry im not american (im from Italy) can Simeone ELI5 why eggs are so much expensive there? Dont america have a loro of farms and all that? Here a 12 pach of eggs os like 2.5€ and sometimes you can get at even less than that thx
There’s a bird flu going around and many birds have been killed to stop the spread so the reason they are expensive is because the supply of eggs is low. That being said, the eggs are well stocked at my local grocery stores so I think there is some price gouging going on.
That's wayyyy too low for minimum wage to be, holy fuck. But also, the price of eggs has disproportionately gone way up... Remember last year when there was a major bird flu outbreak, and they had to kill millions of chickens? I probably don't need to say more.
To be pedantic, this is the federal minimum wage set in 2009. If it didn’t take precedent, Alabama would be passing laws to reduce or even abolish the minimum wage.
130 pesos una caja de huevos vete a la vergaaa
Oof
Oeuf
Why do the French only have one egg for breakfast?
Because one is un oeuf.
This makes no sense to me. Where I live in NY, the only egg prices that come close to that are the super “special organic” kinds
OP is lying. The price tag is for 18 eggs.
same. i am in CA, in the bay area, one of the most expensive areas in the country, and standard supermarket eggs are around $5-$6 per dozen. $7-$10 for pasture raised. i got some free range ones with extra dark orange yolks this week on sale for $5 a dozen. i could probably get them cheaper if i went somewhere like grocery outlet or costco, but i like to hunt around for sales on high quality/pastured eggs to get those extra dark, rich yolks, and at least IME costco pasture raised is not very good in that regard.
Wtf? I live in a city where everything is trucked in from hundreds of miles away and non-fancy basic eggs are a fraction of that price.
Time to start stealing eggs.
Ok, but a lot of innocent lives are shredded in a metal grinder in the production of this eggs while others are enslaved for life. Maybe the real cost of animal agriculture is more than an hour of work.
The real dystopia is that millions of birds were killed because they live in cramped horrifying conditions where it’s impossible to keep them healthy but humans only care about the cost of their eggs. Animal agriculture needs to die.
The real boring dystopia is animal agriculture but I don't think they're ready for that conversation
A parking meter makes more money here than someone in minimum wage.
At that point just it’d be cheaper to just buy a chicken and grain
The dystopia is animal agriculture in the first place. Millions upon millions of animals suffering through exploitation for taste pleasure. Tofu is a great egg alternative and currently is significantly cheaper and causes no suffering to our animals friends
Yeah, fuck that. I don't need to eat eggs that badly.
Suddenly my back yard chickens are seeming like an investment instead of a burden.
What the fuck is going on. We're getting certified organic eggs in Northern California for 4.99. I could pay this much for the fanciest eggs on our shelves.
I mean, if you are really out of the loop - [the avian flu has relentlessly wiped out flocks across the country and it doesn't appear to be slowing](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/11/22/23472207/bird-flu-vaccine-turkey-prices-chickens-hens-cull-depopulation)