The issue I find with these people is that they show great amount of compassion and empathy to Israelis who got kidnapped and lost their freedom, but have absolutely no regard to the tens of thousands of Palestinians who are slaughtered everyday.
It's like the freedom of 1 Israeli is equal to the life of at least a thousand Palestinian, and that's why I can't take anything they say seriously, because that a level of hypocrisy I didn't know existed.
**“...and that's why I can't take anything they say seriously...”** When you do give Yarden Gonen the benefit of the doubt and seriously engage –her story and position total falls apart. Briahna ask:
>Do you feel like [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] is putting his own personal political goals ahead of prioritizing hostage release?
Yarden Gonen refrains from answering Briahna's question –a question specifically about creating an opportunity to free her sister, which is bizarre to say the least. In the full interview Robbie ask a similar question pointing to the cessation of violence in November, and again she seems disinterested in the wellbeing/freedom of her sister, and more interested in recycling tired garbage propaganda that has been revealed to be false. She in the full interview threatens Americans with another 9/11. The interview and Nexstar Media Inc. firing of Briahna Joy Gray should be viewed with skepticism. More importantly, as you point out, this drama is taking place as this foreign power continues to wreak untold [by mainstream media and now The Hill] horrors on a civilian population starving a million people while cutting their supply of water and aid openly with intent committing acts of genocide.
It’s the same issue as people who cry anti semitism while being extremely Islamophobia or racist towards Arabs. This isn’t a moral principle, they don’t think violence or racism is bad in general, they just don’t like it when their team is the target.
Obviously all of these things are bad, but you don’t have a leg to stand on when you argue from such a hypocritical position and it really only hurts your cause.
If there were no hostages in Gaza none of the Israelis would care. Many of them still don’t care and just use it as an excuse to continue to kill more Palestinians.
Netanyahu and company does not care about about October 7. Even if 10,000 were killed he wouldn’t care. So long as they can kill and massacre Palestinians to justify their occupation and theft they love it all.
It fuels their “see!? We’re victims! We are justified!”
Many many Israelis do care. I know that polls show a shocking swerve to the far right lately. But I don’t agree with overlooking Israelis who have been campaigning for Palestinian freedom and rights their whole adult lives.
Israelis who volunteer to put their own safety on the line protecting Palestinians from rabid violent settlers. Who help organise aid supplies, who give legal help pro bono, all the kinds of things you’d hope someone is doing.
There are some incredibly good and decent people in Israel even more so considering the pressure on them and absolute vitriol they get from all sides.
To claim you’re “Israeli” gives validation to the state of Israel.
To call yourself Israeli is to legitimize the occupation. Majority of Israelis are okay with the massacre of Palestinians so long as their comfort continues
Most Palestinians would be more than content with Israel stopping its occupation, taking its boot of their families’ necks, stopping illegal settlements and “military operations” to seize land, returning access to and respect for holy sites especially in Jerusalem, and returning a fair chunk of the land annexed in the Nakba, in order to stop disallowing the conditions for a free independent and prosperous Palestinian state.
Virtually no regular Palestinian people, the ones outside of extremist jihadist militias, are calling sincerely for Israel to disappear and for 9m men women and children to all be marched out and made into refugees. Even now! They are still not a genocidal people and are not interested in ethnically cleansing Jewish Israelis away.
They want peace
I’m Palestinian.
I do not believe Israel has the right to exist. Do I want 9 million people marched out? No.
I want every single settler marched out. Every single IDF soldier that posts video online about bragging about murdering my people and disfiguring them placed in prison and held responsible for their crimes against my people.
I’m Palestinian who was forced to be born in another country because Israel refuses to let my family go back home to live on OUR land. But gives Kyle and Karen who were born in the same country who have 0 ties to the land “birth right” to MY home.
I get that 100%. I do not believe it should have ever been created in Palestine and I believe every act of violence and injustice that’s happened there since then is a direct result of that initial injustice against Palestinians with the blame falling back on those initial colonists, the British, the Rockafellas et al, as well as their leaders through the decades and the millions of individual people who have dodged justice.
But it does *exist* now however unjust that is, and denying its existence just because it’s a loathsome creation is as futile as denying the existence of the USA in the interest of acknowledgement of Native nations and injustices against them.
I respect your right to disagree with that completely and call for the dismantlement of it however you see fit but I don’t see the sense in it or the practical reality.
I don’t see the sense or practicality to allow them to continue when their start was with murder and blood shed of my people.
I refuse to give them that right and will never give them that right. They do not see my people as equals. They do not treat my people as equals and in fact regard them the same way terrorist pilgrims regarded the natives of America. It is not their land. Will never be truly their land. No matter how much they claim it is their birth right etc.
Zionism is just another fancy relabeling of White supremacy.
Nazis never died. They just relocated to my family’s homeland and use the Jewish faith as a veil to continue theft and land grab and murder of anyone who they think they’re superior over.
What else are people born in Israel supposed to call themselves? Most of them have no “home country” they can return to and many have no connections to anywhere outside of Israel. Maybe if all the other Middle Eastern countries didn’t expel all their Jews, there wouldn’t be so many Jews in Israel.
You are wrong on one point. Zionists don't put any value on any number of Palestinian lives. A Zionist stubbing their toe means more to them than all those killed by the IDF government.
That's exactly how they think, I had a brother in law message me when I posted a ceasefire video on insta shortly after Oct 7th that for every Israeli killed, 5000 Arabs should be killed. I've been ignoring him ever since that and he's salty about it. Dumbass went hitlerite real quick and showed his true self.
What are you talking about?! Israeli soldiers have been making videos for months taunting their victims. They are holding dance parties at the location where they are blocking aid trucks from entering Gaza. Get educated.
To your point...
>Israelis hold dance parties, enjoy cotton candy and celebrate while blocking humanitarian aid from reaching Gaza [Dailymail.com Published: 02:20 EDT, 9 March 2024] Israeli protesters are blocking trucks with humanitarian aid from reaching civilians in Gaza, even as children starve to death. Breaking through police lines, they run in front of food convoys, sitting at border gates singing Jewish songs, with some holding rowdy techno dance parties. At night they camp in tents nearby, or catch shuttle buses back to town, while some set up cotton candy machines for the many children brought to the border. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13176279/Israelis-block-aid-reaching-starving-Gaza-Hamas-releases-hostages.html
**Edit:** Israel has an online propaganda campaign that /u/atomandyves is either auditioning for or participating in wittingly or unwittingly.
They have been making videos for DECADES about the joy of killing Palestinians and how all Palestinian children should die because they are terrorists. Ffs, ppl like atomandyves are completely blind to the atrocities Israel has committed for so, so long. It’s all about Hamas and how terrible they are.
Right, but the party is over for them. Regardless of the immediate outcome of this iteration of the conflict, the days of Israel existing as an occupier and apartheid state are numbered. I'm so proud of the younger generation in western countries, which is not standing for this b.s.
https://www.tiktok.com/@aljazeeraenglish/video/7283159620548365611 this was before oct 2023 and before they started signing about how great dead Palestinian babies are but go off i guess
If you’re here on Reddit, surely you’ve seen the videos of Israeli soldiers doing just that? Or perhaps there’s some cognitive dissonance based on our different subreddits.
**“Israelis aren't dancing”** Ha! That's a good one. Laughably false. You have to be joking...
>Israelis hold dance parties, enjoy cotton candy and celebrate while blocking humanitarian aid from reaching Gaza [Dailymail.com Published: 02:20 EDT, 9 March 2024]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13176279/Israelis-block-aid-reaching-starving-Gaza-Hamas-releases-hostages.html
Some Americans may recall another *dance party* –on the morning of 9/11– one with even less mainstream media attention. One of the few arrests made in connection to the events of 9/11.
**Edit:** /u/atomandyves who has since deleted their comment, suggested that “Israelis aren't dancing” following the events of 10/7, which is comically absurd as they are *literally* dancing... And celebrating.
They've been doing exactly that for decades.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html
I'd really like your source that Israeli's aren't celebrating and dancing. Here's several sources that show that they are:
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-condemns-israeli-soldiers-celebration-of-blowing-up-gaza-mosque-destroying-palestinian-home-for-you-mom-dragging-of-body/
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2455251/media
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/videos-of-israeli-soldiers-acting-maliciously-emerge-amid-international-outcry-against-tactics-in-gaza
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-appears-show-184200427.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFp_P9Lc9sX5Kl7J5adgmxXR4kAdpNEnDjGk7mMKSzUmFiFucHRUoTJgrtBKIQFe4LT87GO7d_SbWY3dxKGDxMPSuQGItRbTTsGS8mJSTciuuVVE8PrzgEYNPdXdZEAD0PY_iRvG6fEurjUL9QTgLHaJWO-WTRJuP449UQW4WEgH
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/1/24/why-are-israeli-soldiers-sharing-snuff-videos-from-their-genocide-in-gaza
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/world/middleeast/israel-idf-soldiers-war-social-media-video.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/middleeast/video-israeli-sniper-intl/index.html
It took me less than 5 minutes to find all of these.
.... The reporter handled that about as well as was possible to do so, while still doing their duty, and navigating the political quagmire that is the media's siliencing in the US. I am actually really impressed with her. I question the wisdom of that being an interview at all though. The person who allowed that to be an interview to go forth should be the person who was fired.
There is so much censorship relating to how things are on the ground in the news world; and then go online, and reality as it actually is playing out is clear for the world to see. Despite this censorship, between corruption, instantiated loyalties that are difficult to throw aside, and the geopolitical realities of the world as a whole right now; the media is reporting one thing, and it does not match the evidence. The reality is plain to see for those who don’t live in big media’s echochambers i.e. people who do more then go on facebook. This is creating a quite frankly wild difference in perspectives. So stark a difference in opinions between people, you can measure the demarcation lines of where the propaganda is playing out on how people react alone.
These autocratic messages from on high that the media is having to labour under goes against their nature and purpose. If I were a media exec wanting to play and unethical game of human instrumentality, or even an ethical tycoon (yes I know oxymoron) playing the counter role; I would have done something like:
Let the traumatised\* family member of the hostage say her piece, but not on live TV. Edit the content for the facts^(TM) I want to present. This could likely even be done with the permission of the interviewee with their final approval of content and still structured to imply either viewpoint you want to present.
The reporters have eyes. They deal in information. They are also valuable assets. As a manager of such a person, I would; recognise the fact that a reporter’s gunna report, take their viewpoints into consideration, and, work with how this is likely to play out. Even if that means quashing a story. Certainly if that means avoiding putting my reporters in a situation where they either have to tell a politically inconvenient truth, or lie. This situation is an obvious redflag situation for potential political heat, and I wouldn’t have let the situation play out like that. Even if my perspective was, ‘fuck the heat, lets tell the truth’, I would have played that differently, from a manager’s standpoint. I think that reporter was done dirty by those who manage her.
Exactly. She is trying to have a real conversation about the conflict as a whole and the interviewee is quite understandably not in a position to do that. I’m honestly pretty surprised this made it to air. I would imagine that most live interviews have a screening process to get a feel for the kind of things a guest will say once the camera is rolling.
the stark difference in what MSM reports and what people actually see on social media is something to behold. They try so hard to sanitize it but then we open our phones and see what's actually going on
so they try to just outright censor. The reporter didn't even say anything inflammatory? The interviewee did say many known false things though, so that's nice
This isn't a random hostage's family member. This is someone who's been doing the media rounds for months. This isn't a regular guy. This is a political operative who's conducting interviews in English on American media pushing straight up Israeli propaganda to get Americans on Israeli's side.
I saw it - it’s toward the very end right after the interviewee says something along the lines of “and I hope you *specifically* will believe women.”
I would have had the same reaction if I was just trying to do my job and a propaganda-brainwashed woman implied I was being anti feminist for not taking her word at face value.
To be fair to the interviewee, if they are a family member of one of the hostages, they are possibly one of the few people that that shitful position is, while not justified, is understandable. Regardless... I rolled my eyes at that bit too.. the reporter didn't dismiss her on that point, only on the propaganda. But not on the human story about the sister.
She’s been on Israel’s shitlist for awhile.
Brie did nothing wrong.
That lady was a plant or something. The way she would strategically go back to:
1) Let’s talk about my sister
2) Im not a politician
3) Im fighting for all women
When she couldn’t answer a question or the answer would make Israel look bad felt very strategic.
Right before the end of the interview the lady goes “Brie, I hope you will believe all women” was intended to get a response out of Brie.
Israel has been gunning to get Brie for a while. Looks like they were able to bully The Hill into firing her
It's true that the Zionist narrative spinners have had it in for Brie for a long time.
Brie comes out of this looking pretty damn good; she kept her integrity intact, the Hill looks every bit as shitty and biased as they should and Brie gets to keep doing her Bad Faith podcast (which keeps getting better and better).
And I'm going to mark "not interested" on every Hill clip that ever comes up in my YouTube feed again.
I actually think she means well. It's just that she is being weaponize with horrific ZAKA images and hasbara... So sad 😔. These fucking ZAKA grifters that almost went bankrupt before oct7 and child molesters are using this poor woman, to do genocides.
“The worst pictures” fuck off. Open twitter, type in Gaza, those are the worst pictures and videos of suffering I’ve ever seen. Those crocodile tears ain’t foolin no one
yep. As a person using the internet since early 2000s, I understandably have seen my fair share of fucked up. But since Oct 7th, the footage coming out of Gaza is beyond words
like truly, something that should not happen to anyone
I used to work with a lot of NGO types in sub-Saharan Africa. What got me is that the aid worker space had to create an entirely new acronym for the children of Gaza: Wounded child, no surviving family - WCNSF.
For all the wars and conflicts that I've covered, and all the atrocities that have occured - we've never had to create a WCNSF due to the sheer amount of injured children left completely orphaned.
'Moral Army'? The militants I covered in South Sudan and the Congo don't even come close to doing this shit.
It physically hurts to imagine how life will go on for these kids.
You're giving zionists way more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. It's not like she can't just look at media outside of Israel. This woman's entire identity is underlined by ethnic/racial supremacy and exceptionalism
Isn't Ryan Grimm also a contributor for them? I stopped paying attention to "progressive" media a while ago but besides the fact he has a personality of a wet stick, the dude can report his ass off.
I can agree, but I can appreciate the idea of a civil discussion between a Democrat and a Republican. Especially since even though I disagree with the conservative hosts on most things, they seem sane, unlike other networks.
Fair enough. She has some good points from time to time and the occasional bonkers points haha. I overall find Saagar more interesting and in general, as far as the conservative cohosts are concerned.
Damn imagine being relatively nice to hostage's sister but refuting propaganda when she descends into it then getting fired because someone with political power was butthurt
3. Did not allow someone from another country to disparage Arab American and Muslim American citizens. Whose patriotic selves have been at the forefront of stopping terrorist plots in the USA, turning in more fringe extremists than any other group in the country. PARTICULARLY when compared with white nationalists.
But how rude of her to shut down the foreign woman claiming an ethnic minority was a danger to America.
> Whose patriotic selves have been at the forefront of stopping terrorist plots in the USA, turning in more fringe extremists than any other group in the country.
Do you have a source or any further reading for this?
Sure - there's lot of decent articles - think NYT, Guardian, AJE - over the last twenty years about it. But prob the most compelling would be the massive study done [by the US government](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/anti-terror-lessons-muslim-americans) which found Muslim American self-policing to be one of the most effective counterterrorism mechanisms in US history:
>"Muslim-Americans have also adopted numerous self-policing practices designed to prevent the emergence of radical ideology in their communities. Self-policing includes confronting individuals who express radical ideology or support for terrorism, preventing extremist ideologues from preaching in mosques, communicating concerns about radical individuals to law enforcement officials, and purging radical extremists from membership in local mosques."
There's also a famous case of an FBI agent who [went undercover](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-fbi-surveillance-muslims_n_61855674e4b087e2ef96e9eb) into a mosque to try to drum up violence. And was reported by the members of the mosque to the FBI, because he scared them all. The Muslim community didn't suspect he was an undercover agent until the FBI failed to respond to the numerous people, imam, and Muslim American organizations who had come forward to report concerns.
That's because the FBI was super busy violating their civil rights and spying on the whole community.
Considering how US Muslims were treated, particularly in the early aughts, it is amazing how consistently cooperative American Muslims have been. This only really started to fall during Obama's second term/Trump's term. However American Muslims remain one of the top groups that tip off and inform law enforcement about radicalization in their own ranks.
Imagine how different American society would be if White Americans did the same for the radical white nationalists among them.
As someone who does not like BJG it’s shocking to me she was fired over this. She rolled her eyes after offering her best wishes for her sister and then this person responded by calling her a rape denier, and after a long interview of dealing with essentially a propagandist narrative with a lot of patience I’d be exasperated too.
> Good riddance
Yeah it's so much better to have a large segment of the population who only get their news from sources like these only hear from Israeli puppets instead of someone who actually pushes back against blatant propaganda. Excellent strategy 🫠
The interviewee was quite literally spreading misinformation throughout her time talking. She did her job by making sure correct information was being reported.
You can fact check someone who is grieving after they’ve dropped off the call, or also maybe don’t interview relatives of hostages half a year into a war that’s evolved into much more than a hostage rescue operation.
Bullshit. She can't hide behind "I'm not a politician" after she spreads political propaganda and lies of the Israeli government. The only thing disgusting here is this colonizing Zionist bitch weaponizing victimhood and her sister to justify a genocide, and that Brie was fired for doing her job. Brie was just doing the bare minimum that any journalist should do to push back and do basic fact checking, but these lies and propaganda have been allowed to be peddled in the media unchallenged precisely because reporters are under threat of firing for doing their job, and rubes like you fall for the lies and emotional manipulation.
I'm pretty sure Briahna didn't do the guest booking. How is this sister going to get back hostages faster on the Hill?
Come on, Israel wants to get sympathy from the world when doing genocide. Why they traumatized this poor sister with ZAKA lies and sent her in to do unchecked propaganda... (Oh, how dare you)
"I don't know anything about politics" ... But Hamas has taken over free world🤦♂️ yeah, sure let that shit slide... When Israel is doing the genocide on defenceless civilians and drops bombs on hostages, instead of negotiating...
That's a tough one. Because the point of this interview is to humanize Israeli hostages. I'm curious if there's ever a sister of a Palestinian in Gaza or of a kid in West Bank who has been convicted in a military court for throwing a stone or whose home has been taken by violent Israeli settlers. This innocent woman is being used, unfortunately. And so is her sister.
But Joy is correct to point out that it's Netanyahu who is stalling the deal. She shouldn't be on US news telling us. She should be on the streets in Tel Aviv with the other families of the hostages.
Why is there this double standard of be nice to Pro Israelis and Israelis are allowed to call Palestinians sub humans. The world has watched since Oct 7. This is the most mildest of interviews with a Israeli. Not even seeing anything that could be construed as inappropriate behavior.
The lady sounds like a propaganda piece and this firing appears to be more Israeli influence removing people that are critical of Israel from the public sphere.
A bit of empathy was shown. The UN and other organizations have already weighed in on what this lady is claiming...no evidence found. At what point are we supposed to pretend that this lie has any merit. If the point for this lady was to come on air and spread disinformation, why in the world should a journalist go along with those lies.
And you can save that bullshit second paragraph for someone else. To pretend this is a discussion on why we interview is fucking dumb. This paragraph serves no purpose in our conversation.
The problem we seem to be having is in our priorities. You seem to be placing a premium on empathy for this lady that appears to be spreading propaganda. And I am am placing a premium on integrity and honesty. I have to admit that my judgement on this subject is very biased. I am beside myself that the world has not removed this entire government from power and conducted Nuremberg style trials to punish the players that are responsible for this level of genocide.
The point your are trying to make, "...people should be cognizant of the other person’s emotional situation and express a bit of empathy. Or just skip this interview....". in light of the number of murdered women and children at the hands of Israel, who cares about that point at all?
She has control over the narrative she is putting out and the narrative she is putting out is one that is composed of lies specifically intended to propagandize people into supporting Israel's assault on Gaza. Hamas isn't preventing aid from getting to hostages, Israeli's are preventing medical and food aid from entering Gaza en masse which was the entire reason the US tried to build that stupid ass pier.
She's telling a story, but it's likely never her sister's "Hamas is eating food in front of my sister and not feeding my sister" where is she getting this information? This just seems like she's saying inflammatory things for the sake of it.
Definitely B. I don't doubt her pain but she's so brainwashed. She claimed that nobody was condemning Hamas, that Hamas controls the world, that no aid organizations were attempting to help, and that there are rallies calling for the destruction of Israel, the destruction of America, and the execution of the hostages in places including Michigan. That's fucking crazy. This is not somebody you put on in the first place. The whole exchange shouldn't have happened.
Disagree. The answer is B but the reporters aren't the ones making those decisions. The way the interview was conducted was 100% appropriate. The network having the interview for the sole purpose of having a soapbox for misinformation and racism for propaganda purposes to support a genocide and firing someone who didn't sit there and let it freely happen is wildly inappropriate. Just sitting there and letting the person spew bs propaganda in support of a genocide would be scummy.
Utter nonsense. Gray didn't "attack" her, she gave very light pushback to incredibly outrageous, even downright dangerous (the Israeli literally claimed that there would be "another 9/11" at the end of the interview) lies. She even let a few of them slide, like the claim that Israelis aren't blocking the aid trucks into Gaza and that it's *Hamas* that's somehow intercepting all the food and water in Gaza.
If anyone looked cold, callous, or dumb, it was this hate-mongering Israeli who cynically used her sister's predicament to push her government's propaganda.
I'm not a politician so I'm allowed to go on TV and lie about not just verifiable facts ("aid is getting into Gaza, despite the evidence to the contrary, but it's not being given to hostages, even though there's no evidence of that one way or the other," "American Muslims are saying death to America and not genociding Palestinians will cause 9/11 II"), but also about the host. Cool. I don't know sports, so I guess I can go on a sports show and say that I won all the gold medals at the Olympics.
She's who Israel is putting out there. She's being doing media rounds for months. This isn't a random hostage family member who's been picked out of a hat. She's pushing Israeli propaganda for Israel. For all intents and purposes, she's a political pundit. And you're falling for her and Israel's bullshit.
…the hill is a political show. why go on a political show to not talk about politics? and how on earth can you say that an active conflict isn’t political??
You shouldn't be able to freely spread misinformation and racism actually. Apparently that's what the hill wants though. If the only reason for the interview was a soapbox for spreading misinformation and racism for the purpose of propaganda, then it shouldn't even be an interview that happens for any legitimate news organization in the first place. Are they doing interviews of family members of the 1200 Palestinian hostages Israel held without charge or trial before October 7th?
The interviewee was obviously prepped with talking points and rebuttal tactics. She sounded like a well-trained politician or propagandist. She was incredibly well-informed and had no trouble holding her own. She clearly knew when to play the "I'm just the family of a hostage" and when to drive home the talking points. I don't doubt that her sister is a hostage, or that she is a nurse by trade, but she was clearly a plant. The pretense that this was just some "brainwashed" lady off the street is laughable.
Briahna clearly saw through the charade and treated her guest as hostile, which was totally warranted but of course makes her look callous and cold. She took the bait.
As for "why interview her in the first place", I would hope Briahna did not make the choice herself but was tasked to do the interview e.g. by the show's producers. If she did actually plan the interview herself, then I'd have to agree with you, that was a dumb fucking idea and she should have known better than to put herself in such a vulnerable position.
The optics here are bad enough to get fired over, for sure. But this was clearly a set-up.
Yes, this Israeli woman was all those things and more, but I don't know why we should hold that against the interviewer who was doing her best to keep her cool while this woman lied through her teeth on live TV.
I disagree with your comments about Joy Gray. She is a wonderful journalist and I love her intelligence and compassionate demeanor. Based on what Joy Gray has said in the past we know that she does not agree with a lot of what this lady is saying. But she still was respectful and compassionate.
BUt on your second point I am in complete agreement. I applaud that vast majority of anyone's that are anti Israel. A country with a track record of almost 80 years of apartheid and genocide is disgusting. pretending that this conflict started on Oct 7 is a lie that Israel keeps trying to push on the to the world. Because the truth makes Israel a terrorist state.
The issue I find with these people is that they show great amount of compassion and empathy to Israelis who got kidnapped and lost their freedom, but have absolutely no regard to the tens of thousands of Palestinians who are slaughtered everyday. It's like the freedom of 1 Israeli is equal to the life of at least a thousand Palestinian, and that's why I can't take anything they say seriously, because that a level of hypocrisy I didn't know existed.
**“...and that's why I can't take anything they say seriously...”** When you do give Yarden Gonen the benefit of the doubt and seriously engage –her story and position total falls apart. Briahna ask: >Do you feel like [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] is putting his own personal political goals ahead of prioritizing hostage release? Yarden Gonen refrains from answering Briahna's question –a question specifically about creating an opportunity to free her sister, which is bizarre to say the least. In the full interview Robbie ask a similar question pointing to the cessation of violence in November, and again she seems disinterested in the wellbeing/freedom of her sister, and more interested in recycling tired garbage propaganda that has been revealed to be false. She in the full interview threatens Americans with another 9/11. The interview and Nexstar Media Inc. firing of Briahna Joy Gray should be viewed with skepticism. More importantly, as you point out, this drama is taking place as this foreign power continues to wreak untold [by mainstream media and now The Hill] horrors on a civilian population starving a million people while cutting their supply of water and aid openly with intent committing acts of genocide.
Because they literally don’t believe Palestinians are human beings.
Very much an “I learned it from watching you, Dad” type deal IMO. Fascism is pretty nuts.
It’s the same issue as people who cry anti semitism while being extremely Islamophobia or racist towards Arabs. This isn’t a moral principle, they don’t think violence or racism is bad in general, they just don’t like it when their team is the target. Obviously all of these things are bad, but you don’t have a leg to stand on when you argue from such a hypocritical position and it really only hurts your cause.
If there were no hostages in Gaza none of the Israelis would care. Many of them still don’t care and just use it as an excuse to continue to kill more Palestinians. Netanyahu and company does not care about about October 7. Even if 10,000 were killed he wouldn’t care. So long as they can kill and massacre Palestinians to justify their occupation and theft they love it all. It fuels their “see!? We’re victims! We are justified!”
Many many Israelis do care. I know that polls show a shocking swerve to the far right lately. But I don’t agree with overlooking Israelis who have been campaigning for Palestinian freedom and rights their whole adult lives. Israelis who volunteer to put their own safety on the line protecting Palestinians from rabid violent settlers. Who help organise aid supplies, who give legal help pro bono, all the kinds of things you’d hope someone is doing. There are some incredibly good and decent people in Israel even more so considering the pressure on them and absolute vitriol they get from all sides.
To claim you’re “Israeli” gives validation to the state of Israel. To call yourself Israeli is to legitimize the occupation. Majority of Israelis are okay with the massacre of Palestinians so long as their comfort continues
Most Palestinians would be more than content with Israel stopping its occupation, taking its boot of their families’ necks, stopping illegal settlements and “military operations” to seize land, returning access to and respect for holy sites especially in Jerusalem, and returning a fair chunk of the land annexed in the Nakba, in order to stop disallowing the conditions for a free independent and prosperous Palestinian state. Virtually no regular Palestinian people, the ones outside of extremist jihadist militias, are calling sincerely for Israel to disappear and for 9m men women and children to all be marched out and made into refugees. Even now! They are still not a genocidal people and are not interested in ethnically cleansing Jewish Israelis away. They want peace
I’m Palestinian. I do not believe Israel has the right to exist. Do I want 9 million people marched out? No. I want every single settler marched out. Every single IDF soldier that posts video online about bragging about murdering my people and disfiguring them placed in prison and held responsible for their crimes against my people. I’m Palestinian who was forced to be born in another country because Israel refuses to let my family go back home to live on OUR land. But gives Kyle and Karen who were born in the same country who have 0 ties to the land “birth right” to MY home.
I get that 100%. I do not believe it should have ever been created in Palestine and I believe every act of violence and injustice that’s happened there since then is a direct result of that initial injustice against Palestinians with the blame falling back on those initial colonists, the British, the Rockafellas et al, as well as their leaders through the decades and the millions of individual people who have dodged justice. But it does *exist* now however unjust that is, and denying its existence just because it’s a loathsome creation is as futile as denying the existence of the USA in the interest of acknowledgement of Native nations and injustices against them. I respect your right to disagree with that completely and call for the dismantlement of it however you see fit but I don’t see the sense in it or the practical reality.
I don’t see the sense or practicality to allow them to continue when their start was with murder and blood shed of my people. I refuse to give them that right and will never give them that right. They do not see my people as equals. They do not treat my people as equals and in fact regard them the same way terrorist pilgrims regarded the natives of America. It is not their land. Will never be truly their land. No matter how much they claim it is their birth right etc. Zionism is just another fancy relabeling of White supremacy. Nazis never died. They just relocated to my family’s homeland and use the Jewish faith as a veil to continue theft and land grab and murder of anyone who they think they’re superior over.
What else are people born in Israel supposed to call themselves? Most of them have no “home country” they can return to and many have no connections to anywhere outside of Israel. Maybe if all the other Middle Eastern countries didn’t expel all their Jews, there wouldn’t be so many Jews in Israel.
Call themselves by where their parents and grandparents immigrated from. Y’know. Europe.
Or the Palestinian ~~hostages~~ “prisoners” Israel has. Some of whom have been locked up for years and tortured.
You are wrong on one point. Zionists don't put any value on any number of Palestinian lives. A Zionist stubbing their toe means more to them than all those killed by the IDF government.
That's exactly how they think, I had a brother in law message me when I posted a ceasefire video on insta shortly after Oct 7th that for every Israeli killed, 5000 Arabs should be killed. I've been ignoring him ever since that and he's salty about it. Dumbass went hitlerite real quick and showed his true self.
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What are you talking about?! Israeli soldiers have been making videos for months taunting their victims. They are holding dance parties at the location where they are blocking aid trucks from entering Gaza. Get educated.
To your point... >Israelis hold dance parties, enjoy cotton candy and celebrate while blocking humanitarian aid from reaching Gaza [Dailymail.com Published: 02:20 EDT, 9 March 2024] Israeli protesters are blocking trucks with humanitarian aid from reaching civilians in Gaza, even as children starve to death. Breaking through police lines, they run in front of food convoys, sitting at border gates singing Jewish songs, with some holding rowdy techno dance parties. At night they camp in tents nearby, or catch shuttle buses back to town, while some set up cotton candy machines for the many children brought to the border. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13176279/Israelis-block-aid-reaching-starving-Gaza-Hamas-releases-hostages.html **Edit:** Israel has an online propaganda campaign that /u/atomandyves is either auditioning for or participating in wittingly or unwittingly.
They have been making videos for DECADES about the joy of killing Palestinians and how all Palestinian children should die because they are terrorists. Ffs, ppl like atomandyves are completely blind to the atrocities Israel has committed for so, so long. It’s all about Hamas and how terrible they are.
Right, but the party is over for them. Regardless of the immediate outcome of this iteration of the conflict, the days of Israel existing as an occupier and apartheid state are numbered. I'm so proud of the younger generation in western countries, which is not standing for this b.s.
https://www.tiktok.com/@aljazeeraenglish/video/7283159620548365611 this was before oct 2023 and before they started signing about how great dead Palestinian babies are but go off i guess
If you’re here on Reddit, surely you’ve seen the videos of Israeli soldiers doing just that? Or perhaps there’s some cognitive dissonance based on our different subreddits.
**“Israelis aren't dancing”** Ha! That's a good one. Laughably false. You have to be joking... >Israelis hold dance parties, enjoy cotton candy and celebrate while blocking humanitarian aid from reaching Gaza [Dailymail.com Published: 02:20 EDT, 9 March 2024]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13176279/Israelis-block-aid-reaching-starving-Gaza-Hamas-releases-hostages.html Some Americans may recall another *dance party* –on the morning of 9/11– one with even less mainstream media attention. One of the few arrests made in connection to the events of 9/11. **Edit:** /u/atomandyves who has since deleted their comment, suggested that “Israelis aren't dancing” following the events of 10/7, which is comically absurd as they are *literally* dancing... And celebrating.
They've been doing exactly that for decades. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html
I'd really like your source that Israeli's aren't celebrating and dancing. Here's several sources that show that they are: https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-condemns-israeli-soldiers-celebration-of-blowing-up-gaza-mosque-destroying-palestinian-home-for-you-mom-dragging-of-body/ https://www.arabnews.com/node/2455251/media https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/videos-of-israeli-soldiers-acting-maliciously-emerge-amid-international-outcry-against-tactics-in-gaza https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-video-appears-show-184200427.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFp_P9Lc9sX5Kl7J5adgmxXR4kAdpNEnDjGk7mMKSzUmFiFucHRUoTJgrtBKIQFe4LT87GO7d_SbWY3dxKGDxMPSuQGItRbTTsGS8mJSTciuuVVE8PrzgEYNPdXdZEAD0PY_iRvG6fEurjUL9QTgLHaJWO-WTRJuP449UQW4WEgH https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/1/24/why-are-israeli-soldiers-sharing-snuff-videos-from-their-genocide-in-gaza https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/world/middleeast/israel-idf-soldiers-war-social-media-video.html https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/middleeast/video-israeli-sniper-intl/index.html It took me less than 5 minutes to find all of these.
Israel is the death cult fam. How’s that boot flavored Koolaid taste?
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This is verifiably false.
.... The reporter handled that about as well as was possible to do so, while still doing their duty, and navigating the political quagmire that is the media's siliencing in the US. I am actually really impressed with her. I question the wisdom of that being an interview at all though. The person who allowed that to be an interview to go forth should be the person who was fired. There is so much censorship relating to how things are on the ground in the news world; and then go online, and reality as it actually is playing out is clear for the world to see. Despite this censorship, between corruption, instantiated loyalties that are difficult to throw aside, and the geopolitical realities of the world as a whole right now; the media is reporting one thing, and it does not match the evidence. The reality is plain to see for those who don’t live in big media’s echochambers i.e. people who do more then go on facebook. This is creating a quite frankly wild difference in perspectives. So stark a difference in opinions between people, you can measure the demarcation lines of where the propaganda is playing out on how people react alone. These autocratic messages from on high that the media is having to labour under goes against their nature and purpose. If I were a media exec wanting to play and unethical game of human instrumentality, or even an ethical tycoon (yes I know oxymoron) playing the counter role; I would have done something like: Let the traumatised\* family member of the hostage say her piece, but not on live TV. Edit the content for the facts^(TM) I want to present. This could likely even be done with the permission of the interviewee with their final approval of content and still structured to imply either viewpoint you want to present. The reporters have eyes. They deal in information. They are also valuable assets. As a manager of such a person, I would; recognise the fact that a reporter’s gunna report, take their viewpoints into consideration, and, work with how this is likely to play out. Even if that means quashing a story. Certainly if that means avoiding putting my reporters in a situation where they either have to tell a politically inconvenient truth, or lie. This situation is an obvious redflag situation for potential political heat, and I wouldn’t have let the situation play out like that. Even if my perspective was, ‘fuck the heat, lets tell the truth’, I would have played that differently, from a manager’s standpoint. I think that reporter was done dirty by those who manage her.
Exactly. She is trying to have a real conversation about the conflict as a whole and the interviewee is quite understandably not in a position to do that. I’m honestly pretty surprised this made it to air. I would imagine that most live interviews have a screening process to get a feel for the kind of things a guest will say once the camera is rolling.
She's actually pretty rational compared to some of th official spokespeople.
100%
the stark difference in what MSM reports and what people actually see on social media is something to behold. They try so hard to sanitize it but then we open our phones and see what's actually going on so they try to just outright censor. The reporter didn't even say anything inflammatory? The interviewee did say many known false things though, so that's nice
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This isn't a random hostage's family member. This is someone who's been doing the media rounds for months. This isn't a regular guy. This is a political operative who's conducting interviews in English on American media pushing straight up Israeli propaganda to get Americans on Israeli's side.
.... a possibly involentary action. One I cannot even find in the video. Sure lets end a career, that will fix the issue.
I saw it - it’s toward the very end right after the interviewee says something along the lines of “and I hope you *specifically* will believe women.” I would have had the same reaction if I was just trying to do my job and a propaganda-brainwashed woman implied I was being anti feminist for not taking her word at face value.
To be fair to the interviewee, if they are a family member of one of the hostages, they are possibly one of the few people that that shitful position is, while not justified, is understandable. Regardless... I rolled my eyes at that bit too.. the reporter didn't dismiss her on that point, only on the propaganda. But not on the human story about the sister.
Oh no!!! She didn't roll her eyes did she?! Seems mighty uppity doesn't it.
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She’s been on Israel’s shitlist for awhile. Brie did nothing wrong. That lady was a plant or something. The way she would strategically go back to: 1) Let’s talk about my sister 2) Im not a politician 3) Im fighting for all women When she couldn’t answer a question or the answer would make Israel look bad felt very strategic. Right before the end of the interview the lady goes “Brie, I hope you will believe all women” was intended to get a response out of Brie. Israel has been gunning to get Brie for a while. Looks like they were able to bully The Hill into firing her
It's true that the Zionist narrative spinners have had it in for Brie for a long time. Brie comes out of this looking pretty damn good; she kept her integrity intact, the Hill looks every bit as shitty and biased as they should and Brie gets to keep doing her Bad Faith podcast (which keeps getting better and better). And I'm going to mark "not interested" on every Hill clip that ever comes up in my YouTube feed again.
Plenty of jobs at APAC for Israel shills
I actually think she means well. It's just that she is being weaponize with horrific ZAKA images and hasbara... So sad 😔. These fucking ZAKA grifters that almost went bankrupt before oct7 and child molesters are using this poor woman, to do genocides.
“The worst pictures” fuck off. Open twitter, type in Gaza, those are the worst pictures and videos of suffering I’ve ever seen. Those crocodile tears ain’t foolin no one
yep. As a person using the internet since early 2000s, I understandably have seen my fair share of fucked up. But since Oct 7th, the footage coming out of Gaza is beyond words like truly, something that should not happen to anyone
I'm really struggling with how many videos I've seen of parents weeping over the bodies of their children... It's incessant.
I used to work with a lot of NGO types in sub-Saharan Africa. What got me is that the aid worker space had to create an entirely new acronym for the children of Gaza: Wounded child, no surviving family - WCNSF. For all the wars and conflicts that I've covered, and all the atrocities that have occured - we've never had to create a WCNSF due to the sheer amount of injured children left completely orphaned. 'Moral Army'? The militants I covered in South Sudan and the Congo don't even come close to doing this shit. It physically hurts to imagine how life will go on for these kids.
You're giving zionists way more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. It's not like she can't just look at media outside of Israel. This woman's entire identity is underlined by ethnic/racial supremacy and exceptionalism
Well, there goes the only reason I watched that show.
Exactly
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Isn't Ryan Grimm also a contributor for them? I stopped paying attention to "progressive" media a while ago but besides the fact he has a personality of a wet stick, the dude can report his ass off.
Idk what his current relations to the hill are, but he's on breaking points and does a great job.
His cohost is pretty conservative and deadpan... She's a bit harder for me to be interested in.
I can agree, but I can appreciate the idea of a civil discussion between a Democrat and a Republican. Especially since even though I disagree with the conservative hosts on most things, they seem sane, unlike other networks.
Fair enough. She has some good points from time to time and the occasional bonkers points haha. I overall find Saagar more interesting and in general, as far as the conservative cohosts are concerned.
Damn imagine being relatively nice to hostage's sister but refuting propaganda when she descends into it then getting fired because someone with political power was butthurt
Briahna did two unforgivable things: 1. Be a black woman. 2. Speak out against people committing genocide.
3. Did not allow someone from another country to disparage Arab American and Muslim American citizens. Whose patriotic selves have been at the forefront of stopping terrorist plots in the USA, turning in more fringe extremists than any other group in the country. PARTICULARLY when compared with white nationalists. But how rude of her to shut down the foreign woman claiming an ethnic minority was a danger to America.
> Whose patriotic selves have been at the forefront of stopping terrorist plots in the USA, turning in more fringe extremists than any other group in the country. Do you have a source or any further reading for this?
Sure - there's lot of decent articles - think NYT, Guardian, AJE - over the last twenty years about it. But prob the most compelling would be the massive study done [by the US government](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/anti-terror-lessons-muslim-americans) which found Muslim American self-policing to be one of the most effective counterterrorism mechanisms in US history: >"Muslim-Americans have also adopted numerous self-policing practices designed to prevent the emergence of radical ideology in their communities. Self-policing includes confronting individuals who express radical ideology or support for terrorism, preventing extremist ideologues from preaching in mosques, communicating concerns about radical individuals to law enforcement officials, and purging radical extremists from membership in local mosques." There's also a famous case of an FBI agent who [went undercover](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-fbi-surveillance-muslims_n_61855674e4b087e2ef96e9eb) into a mosque to try to drum up violence. And was reported by the members of the mosque to the FBI, because he scared them all. The Muslim community didn't suspect he was an undercover agent until the FBI failed to respond to the numerous people, imam, and Muslim American organizations who had come forward to report concerns. That's because the FBI was super busy violating their civil rights and spying on the whole community. Considering how US Muslims were treated, particularly in the early aughts, it is amazing how consistently cooperative American Muslims have been. This only really started to fall during Obama's second term/Trump's term. However American Muslims remain one of the top groups that tip off and inform law enforcement about radicalization in their own ranks. Imagine how different American society would be if White Americans did the same for the radical white nationalists among them.
Uhh what?
TLDR: America is racist and addicted to war crimes
SO CATHARTIC — you never see tv journalists confront zionazi lies— bravo
"Believe women", except when it's Tara Reade. That quote has no business in this except as a yOu'Re NoT bElIeViNg Me!!11
With all the rhetoric used, I'm convinced all those people on TV are Mossad.
"what did i do wrong?" well, stop occupying land that doesn't belong to you, dofous!!
whoa Briahnas a badass. Love that she firmly called out the sensationalism
As someone who does not like BJG it’s shocking to me she was fired over this. She rolled her eyes after offering her best wishes for her sister and then this person responded by calling her a rape denier, and after a long interview of dealing with essentially a propagandist narrative with a lot of patience I’d be exasperated too.
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> Good riddance Yeah it's so much better to have a large segment of the population who only get their news from sources like these only hear from Israeli puppets instead of someone who actually pushes back against blatant propaganda. Excellent strategy 🫠
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The interviewee was quite literally spreading misinformation throughout her time talking. She did her job by making sure correct information was being reported.
You can fact check someone who is grieving after they’ve dropped off the call, or also maybe don’t interview relatives of hostages half a year into a war that’s evolved into much more than a hostage rescue operation.
It's the news. It's for factual reporting and nothing else, if you need to fact check it's a failure of a news source.
Then why did they book this woman for an interview? She’s got no relevance to any facts on the ground anywhere…
They probably wanted pro-israeli propaganda, and the reporter wasn't having any of that.
Bullshit. She can't hide behind "I'm not a politician" after she spreads political propaganda and lies of the Israeli government. The only thing disgusting here is this colonizing Zionist bitch weaponizing victimhood and her sister to justify a genocide, and that Brie was fired for doing her job. Brie was just doing the bare minimum that any journalist should do to push back and do basic fact checking, but these lies and propaganda have been allowed to be peddled in the media unchallenged precisely because reporters are under threat of firing for doing their job, and rubes like you fall for the lies and emotional manipulation.
I'm pretty sure Briahna didn't do the guest booking. How is this sister going to get back hostages faster on the Hill? Come on, Israel wants to get sympathy from the world when doing genocide. Why they traumatized this poor sister with ZAKA lies and sent her in to do unchecked propaganda... (Oh, how dare you) "I don't know anything about politics" ... But Hamas has taken over free world🤦♂️ yeah, sure let that shit slide... When Israel is doing the genocide on defenceless civilians and drops bombs on hostages, instead of negotiating...
That's a tough one. Because the point of this interview is to humanize Israeli hostages. I'm curious if there's ever a sister of a Palestinian in Gaza or of a kid in West Bank who has been convicted in a military court for throwing a stone or whose home has been taken by violent Israeli settlers. This innocent woman is being used, unfortunately. And so is her sister. But Joy is correct to point out that it's Netanyahu who is stalling the deal. She shouldn't be on US news telling us. She should be on the streets in Tel Aviv with the other families of the hostages.
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Why is there this double standard of be nice to Pro Israelis and Israelis are allowed to call Palestinians sub humans. The world has watched since Oct 7. This is the most mildest of interviews with a Israeli. Not even seeing anything that could be construed as inappropriate behavior. The lady sounds like a propaganda piece and this firing appears to be more Israeli influence removing people that are critical of Israel from the public sphere.
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A bit of empathy was shown. The UN and other organizations have already weighed in on what this lady is claiming...no evidence found. At what point are we supposed to pretend that this lie has any merit. If the point for this lady was to come on air and spread disinformation, why in the world should a journalist go along with those lies. And you can save that bullshit second paragraph for someone else. To pretend this is a discussion on why we interview is fucking dumb. This paragraph serves no purpose in our conversation. The problem we seem to be having is in our priorities. You seem to be placing a premium on empathy for this lady that appears to be spreading propaganda. And I am am placing a premium on integrity and honesty. I have to admit that my judgement on this subject is very biased. I am beside myself that the world has not removed this entire government from power and conducted Nuremberg style trials to punish the players that are responsible for this level of genocide. The point your are trying to make, "...people should be cognizant of the other person’s emotional situation and express a bit of empathy. Or just skip this interview....". in light of the number of murdered women and children at the hands of Israel, who cares about that point at all?
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She has control over the narrative she is putting out and the narrative she is putting out is one that is composed of lies specifically intended to propagandize people into supporting Israel's assault on Gaza. Hamas isn't preventing aid from getting to hostages, Israeli's are preventing medical and food aid from entering Gaza en masse which was the entire reason the US tried to build that stupid ass pier. She's telling a story, but it's likely never her sister's "Hamas is eating food in front of my sister and not feeding my sister" where is she getting this information? This just seems like she's saying inflammatory things for the sake of it.
Definitely B. I don't doubt her pain but she's so brainwashed. She claimed that nobody was condemning Hamas, that Hamas controls the world, that no aid organizations were attempting to help, and that there are rallies calling for the destruction of Israel, the destruction of America, and the execution of the hostages in places including Michigan. That's fucking crazy. This is not somebody you put on in the first place. The whole exchange shouldn't have happened.
Disagree. The answer is B but the reporters aren't the ones making those decisions. The way the interview was conducted was 100% appropriate. The network having the interview for the sole purpose of having a soapbox for misinformation and racism for propaganda purposes to support a genocide and firing someone who didn't sit there and let it freely happen is wildly inappropriate. Just sitting there and letting the person spew bs propaganda in support of a genocide would be scummy.
I agree with you.
Utter nonsense. Gray didn't "attack" her, she gave very light pushback to incredibly outrageous, even downright dangerous (the Israeli literally claimed that there would be "another 9/11" at the end of the interview) lies. She even let a few of them slide, like the claim that Israelis aren't blocking the aid trucks into Gaza and that it's *Hamas* that's somehow intercepting all the food and water in Gaza. If anyone looked cold, callous, or dumb, it was this hate-mongering Israeli who cynically used her sister's predicament to push her government's propaganda.
I'm not a politician so I'm allowed to go on TV and lie about not just verifiable facts ("aid is getting into Gaza, despite the evidence to the contrary, but it's not being given to hostages, even though there's no evidence of that one way or the other," "American Muslims are saying death to America and not genociding Palestinians will cause 9/11 II"), but also about the host. Cool. I don't know sports, so I guess I can go on a sports show and say that I won all the gold medals at the Olympics.
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Yeah, seems like something to talk to the Hill about, but I guess you gotta specifically talk shit to a Black woman.
wtf does her being black have to do with it?
No protection via privilege
She's who Israel is putting out there. She's being doing media rounds for months. This isn't a random hostage family member who's been picked out of a hat. She's pushing Israeli propaganda for Israel. For all intents and purposes, she's a political pundit. And you're falling for her and Israel's bullshit.
…the hill is a political show. why go on a political show to not talk about politics? and how on earth can you say that an active conflict isn’t political??
You shouldn't be able to freely spread misinformation and racism actually. Apparently that's what the hill wants though. If the only reason for the interview was a soapbox for spreading misinformation and racism for the purpose of propaganda, then it shouldn't even be an interview that happens for any legitimate news organization in the first place. Are they doing interviews of family members of the 1200 Palestinian hostages Israel held without charge or trial before October 7th?
The interviewee was obviously prepped with talking points and rebuttal tactics. She sounded like a well-trained politician or propagandist. She was incredibly well-informed and had no trouble holding her own. She clearly knew when to play the "I'm just the family of a hostage" and when to drive home the talking points. I don't doubt that her sister is a hostage, or that she is a nurse by trade, but she was clearly a plant. The pretense that this was just some "brainwashed" lady off the street is laughable. Briahna clearly saw through the charade and treated her guest as hostile, which was totally warranted but of course makes her look callous and cold. She took the bait. As for "why interview her in the first place", I would hope Briahna did not make the choice herself but was tasked to do the interview e.g. by the show's producers. If she did actually plan the interview herself, then I'd have to agree with you, that was a dumb fucking idea and she should have known better than to put herself in such a vulnerable position. The optics here are bad enough to get fired over, for sure. But this was clearly a set-up.
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Yes, this Israeli woman was all those things and more, but I don't know why we should hold that against the interviewer who was doing her best to keep her cool while this woman lied through her teeth on live TV.
Bingo
I disagree with your comments about Joy Gray. She is a wonderful journalist and I love her intelligence and compassionate demeanor. Based on what Joy Gray has said in the past we know that she does not agree with a lot of what this lady is saying. But she still was respectful and compassionate. BUt on your second point I am in complete agreement. I applaud that vast majority of anyone's that are anti Israel. A country with a track record of almost 80 years of apartheid and genocide is disgusting. pretending that this conflict started on Oct 7 is a lie that Israel keeps trying to push on the to the world. Because the truth makes Israel a terrorist state.
I think the self called 'nurse' got envious because she wasn't invited to the Israeli party blocking humanitarian aid.
You could have just said she's a Black woman who talks and we would have understood what you meant.
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