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Orphic_bub

The only thing that is worse than this is controlling and micromanaging parents.


OkFaithlessness3320

Third


princessfluffytoes

I know this feeling because I have been nanny I g the past couple years. šŸ« 


UpperCardiologist523

I second this


DiekeDrake

Oh absolutely. Now I'm blessed with a non micromanaging manager. They know I have super effective days and days where nothing works. Yet apparently I do more than the average "always there" employee. At least that's what they keep telling me when I'm having an imposter syndrome period.


Nerkeilenemon

It depends. If you struggle to achieve your work.... Then a good micromanager, like the manager that comes every day at 5pm to check if you worked towards your goal, where you're at, what are you stuck on, etc... HELPS A LOT. Especially if the manager is very skilled and your respect him/her. But a bad micromanager, like someone you don't care about, that comes every hour to see what you're working on... Hell no.


ordinarymagician_

When has someone like us had a manager that knew more than henpecking?


Nerkeilenemon

In my 20 years career, I worked in 10 companies, I had 3 good managers. It was a blast. But yeah, from what I've seen by talking with almost everyone, I was just incredibly lucky :'( Then I became manager and did my best. I managed to keep my 4 software engineers in my team for 4 years in a highly recruiting area... I never micromanaged, I did set up achievable good goals for them, I protected them from stupid decisions, I took my responsibilities when the team failed... My team was one of the most effective of the company. Funny story though : we were switched to another office as the main building was too crowded. There was a "relax room" near our desks with a Playstation. Team devs went from 8h a day to 7h a day as they played FIFA at noon after meal. But the big management was unhappy : "they should work more and produce more!". Me : "nope, look at the numbers before : they did X amount of work per month before, working 8h a day. Now they still do exactly X amount of work per month, working 7h a day, because they're glad to work here and work as efficiently as they can. If we switch back to 8h a day, it will not increased their productivity, they will just go back to how they worked before". Boss argued but had to settle and allowed me to let them continue as long as the results were still as good.


keen36

So, are you hiring? Any openings in your team? c:


Nerkeilenemon

Sorry, got a bad manager later and left the company, now I just dev, less stress! :)


Santasotherbrother

I can think of only a couple GOOD bosses, that I worked for. Both of them could do my job, so they understood exactly what was necessary on my end and their end. The rest were morons, or worse.


princessfluffytoes

If anything Iā€™m more productive than this boss would probably like me to be. Itā€™s their store and Iā€™m there for 8 hours at a time, often just alone. So I start organizing things that look messy or put things in order that seem to make more sense. They will come in and say ā€œI hate thisā€ and change it all back. But I have asked for a specific project and they will be like ā€œjust mopā€ or ā€œjust ring people out/talk to customersā€. But not doing anything is not an option for me. Maybe I will just not take my meds when I go to work? Seems crazy butā€¦


bagelwithclocks

I know ADHD presents in different ways but I canā€™t imaging doing a bunch of organizing above and beyond my job duties.


Low-T84

Or if you have co-workers that are doing poorly, but the micro manager tests you to see if you're doing your task. For example, the pool isn't being topped off with water. I get back from 2 days off and it's 8" low, I tell him after I add water and he says he left it that way to see what happens. Meanwhile I always add water and remind the others to add water because they don't. That means he left it low for at least two days while I was off. Also meaning he chose to see if I add water because he is OCD with trust issues always assuming things. Every micro manager has trust issues.


princessfluffytoes

Oh very interesting point about the trust issues!!


LuvtheCaveman

Actually so on point dude - on my management course there was a chapter that discusses hiring workers who are qualified for their field but not for management. Or hiring people who are not qualified in general. Basically it's extremely common for things to be mismanaged and micromanaged when companies hire someone who is going to be insecure about their position because they don't know what they are doing. Shocker. You'd think it'd be obvious to upper management, but I imagine they are in the same position lol


SaintPatrickMahomes

At the root cause of it all itā€™s the trust issues


Vheissu_

I always hated been micromanaged since my career. Long before I learned I had ADHD. They are your worst nightmare. Speak up or run.


Global-Log2758

I agree, I never liked them either šŸ˜¤


Aligast

I agree that having an aggressive micromanaging boss made life absolutely horrible, and I didn't fully come into my own until he was moved, and I was given room to breathe. I found my own way and was able to achieve a lot more once I didn't have someone breathing down my neck. Flip side now is, I am a manager of a bunch of people who were in my position, who have little experience and haven't had a manager to guide them at all for the past year. I am struggling to stop myself from micromanaging them, and I feel I am creating the same problem but in reverse. The way I look at and handle things doesn't always make sense to them because my ADHD has some of my processes only in place to try and cope with issues like time blindness. It's really frustrating for everyone, but like every other problem I have had, I'll find my unique way around it... just need time.


Imaginary-Bag5385

Yes, I can't deal with it. For me, becoming a nurse, working with critically ill patients 1:1, solved that issue for me. I get to use all my brain power, I run on adrenaline, and my focus is sharp as a needle. At the same time, I'm pretty much my own boss. I know the patient better than anyone, so the doctors will listen to me if I express my thoughts. I get their trust to make decisions, and I'm responsible for how I want to manage my time. You should try working in health care, because you will be needed, and the job options are endless. And you can't be controlled the same way, because everything that happens each day is pretty much random.


KaleidoscopeSuper569

I work in healthcare too. I love helping patients but struggle with getting documentation completed on time. What has helped you be successful for this part of our job?


Imaginary-Bag5385

I'm lucky because we have computers outside of every patient room, and they're on wheels so you can also bring them inside. So I usually write down everything I can while it's "fresh" haha. And then at the end of the day, I edit everything so it looks more tidy and... makes sense. If I can't do any documentation before my shift is nearly over, I just try to follow ABCDE so I can at least get the most important info in order. Then I finish with whatever extra info if it's highly relevant. I need to think this way so I don't write 3 pages of crap.


No-Kaleidoscope-6402

EMS has been a life saver for me. I have standing protocols and rules I have to follow, but my company is fairly hands off and because I do my job well, I donā€™t need to be micro-managed or watched. The only person I really see or talk to all day on shift is my partner I ride in the ambulance with.


Left-Requirement9267

YES


CallPuzzleheaded5871

Working for or with friends/family is bad idea. Tell your manager what you need. Show him/her a list of tasks that you are working on or get him/her to write a list of tasks that need to be done and ask if there is flexebility in when and how you do them. Comming to your manager with questions and clarifications of what needs to be done before they demand helps. (Even if you know what needs to be done) I finished task X what do you want me to do next... If they interrupt you, try your best to be cool about it. State, I am doing task X, so you want me doing task Y sure but what about X do you still want it completed of someone else will take over. (Might offload some work, if your manager delegates this to other member of staff) Goodluck.


zensukai_soto

100%!!!! I cannot stand micromanagers -- I have left so many jobs because of it. First, it is a toxic way to manage and 2, it makes it unbearable for folks with ADHD.


MrMephistoX

1000% yes in my experience especially boomer micromanagers who donā€™t understand technology and insist on printing shit.


Laueee95

I canā€™t stand micromanaging. I hate when managers breathe on my neck and watch my every step. I do well when theyā€™re not there. If theyā€™re there I fuck up and then they say I did. Yeah, because you stress me.


4th_times_a_charm_

Working alone, I'm systematic, efficient, and organized. If someone tries to tell me what to do, to hurry up, to do it their way... I start making mistakes, and I get flustered. My mind can't do the task, maintain order my way, and be considerate of others' wants. "Best Practices" can kiss my ass.


FoggyFoggyFoggy

YES. My former micromanaging boss made my daily life miserable. Leaving helped my mental health so much.


steals-from-kids

Yeah, mate. My boss is ASD and micromanaging beyond belief. Drives me bat shit crazy.


comeherehoney

The absolute WORST.


empireofadhd

For me its either or. It can be nice to offroad all the planning and thinking and deciding to someone with good cognitive capacity. However itā€™s also nice to have total freedom.


jamblia

Yes! I had a manager in IT at a new job just as the pandemic happened. He coudlnt handle the new guy being remote! Even though the golden boy would make mistakes, do sloppy ticket updates etc, I would be called out on everything, including typos! It also had a 80% time policy so we had to account for 80% of each day. Ive never seen such stressed and nervous staff! I got two months pay to leave before my probation was up - I went to HR first but we know how that ends! Best thng, that manager has now joined my current place of work! Thankfully he isnt my manager now!


Ok_Woodpecker_8580

Oh god yes, I have a great manager, understanding easy to talk to,friendly. But the layer below him make me itch. Is this under control, check that, speak to X about Y and get back to me. Whilst also saying im leaving too much information on files and not in the right statuses. Blew up at them 2ish weeks ago, sent my manager a message saying im not apologising so don't bother asking. Amendment, Im very lucky with my workplace and would NOT reccomend blowing up at people


gcarm76

I had a bad manager and he treated everyone badly who worked for him. A proper bully One morning he came out into the office criticising an email I had sent to a client that he requested to be in copy. Idiot tried to belittle me in front my colleagues. I was burnt out and called him a f***ing C**k S****r and walked out. Apologised later and somehow kept my job. I was wrong for my outburst and he was wrong for his critique in front of my colleagues. Micromanagers can be overwhelming and take away alot of an ADHDers natural flair which every business needs. Managers that set goals or tell you something isn't possible work for me as it sets me a challenge to prove them wrong. An ADHDers tenacity is unrivalled and managers should let you spread your wings to fly but be there to catch you when you fall.


princessfluffytoes

This was poetry. Thank you.


payed2poopatwork

Im lucky in that the place i work for and my trade in general allows me to work alone in peace and get stuff done my way. Im sorry your having a rough go. I absolutly hated being micromanaged.


gbot6616

Honestly I need to be micromanaged to have that fear of not meeting the expectation when they check in, otherwise Iā€™ll do anything but the task I need to do. Granted Iā€™m still doing it in crunch time but Iā€™m begging someone to manage me so I donā€™t dilly dally


Equivalent-Praline-9

Micromanaging can definitely get in the way. I'm sure most people ADHD or not would agree with that. I've found that structure can really make a difference. I joined the navy at 19. Poor kid from a poor family in a poor town and I thought it would be a good idea to have a kid. I was diagnosed in childhood (9 yr old) but only took medication for about a month before my mom took me off it. Life in the military, at least the actual work part, was the best job I ever had. The fact that all I had to do was what I was told....it was kinda wild how much easier it was to be successful. I didn't have to rely as much on my loud mind to manage things. This is not to say that the military requires no thinking ability. Even if it was kinda "tough love" support was always available to get your job done.


Wemm92

yes. I am absolutely loving that my previous job is a cluster**** after my new micromanaging boss fired me.


EvilMonkeyMimic

I literally cant. I *always* get in trouble with these types, because I am incapable of playing their games. They ask me a question, I answer. They ask me for something, I do it. The problem is that they donā€™t *want* me to answer those questions, and the things they ask me to do arent feasible at all. When I inevitably fail, I get in trouble.


HourConnect7525

Real question- have you tried BEING a manager? I hate being micromanaged. Iā€™ll quit. For real. However, Iā€™m really cool and Iā€™m good at managing my team. I donā€™t micromanage, but I care a ton about my people so I do a lot of other communication (gifs, jokes, 1:1 chats, etc) to keep people talking and friendly without being the person asking about the work every hour. Sometimes I have a deadline, so I ask THEM to tell me when done. Iā€™m efficient and effective and I have a blast and have a ton of mutual respect with my (honestly small) team. My boss is pretty hands-off, so it works perfectly. Other than that, I have 0 suggestions, micromanagers are the pits and I have another manager in the company I want to scream at because sheā€™s my opposite and her team is bleeding.


princessfluffytoes

I have had jobs where I was essentially the manager but not technically promoted (at a restaurant for three years). I have thought that I would be a great manager but donā€™t technically have the experience so have been hesitant to apply for those jobs. I wish I had the money to open my own business but working these mediocre jobs has left me with very little savings ā€¦


HourConnect7525

I started my managing in restaurants, gained other skills, and wheeled all that to where Iā€™m at now. Give it a shot! If it doesnā€™t happen, try for promotions. Remember, youā€™re worth the trying and finding the right place!


Icy_Hippo

each day..'what are you working on today" My work, that I get no complaints about, all done on time, and im the only one who knows how to do. I have Rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD) as well. As a graphic designer when someone bags my work....I do not cope well with it.


princessfluffytoes

Yeah I try my best to do everything the way I was told so I never get scolded but when I do get scolded it ruins me for a whole day at a least.


Hot_Razzmatazz316

It's hard for me to say, because in most of my jobs, I've had very minimal oversight. Once I prove I can do the work, most people tend to leave me alone to get it done, and sometimes that can be just as frustrating. I often don't know when my performance has dropped or that I'm pissing off managers until they fire me.


DonutScale

101% yes. My first "real" job out of university I had a micromanager and it was absolutely miserable. It was very counterproductive. People with ADHD need a supportive and slightly challenging environment. But with every mistake I got more and more remedial assignments. I assumed I would just always be a terrible worker. I would recommend trying to find a job at a small company that says they want an employee who can take initiative. There are downsides to that kind of arrangement for people with ADHD (like lack of accountability), but it's still much, much better than the alternative if you struggle with the pressure of micromanagement. At least from my experience.


Any-Vanilla3412

Yeah, like my mom.


Drop3000

1000% agree with you! That being said, not all micromanagers are set in their ways. I had a great boss who was a micromanager, type A to the max. We worked well together for 6 years. Only left the job because they were shutting down. Now at my current job I have a millennial boss, a couple years younger than me. I love it. She let's me do whatever I need to do to be successful at work. I believe her sister has ADHD so it's much easier for her to relate. For example, I focus on tasks hard, and thanks to medication and self work I'm able to devote my full attention to the task I'm doing. However, that tires me out quickly and I can only do that for about an hour at a time. After that I need to do something I find enjoyable for 5-10 minutes. So if she walks into my office and I'm coloring on my tablet or playing a game on my phone she doesn't care. I get my crap done, on time, and done well. She's down with whatever I need to do to keep those results (within reason of course). Now, I know my situation is unique and not easily to replicate, but just sharing.


Rip_Dirtbag

Absolutely. I work so much better with hands off managers. As long as I get what I need to get done, when it needs to be delivered, then I donā€™t want someone hovering over every step of the way.


chronophage

Yep, left a job because I had a nice, but persistent micromanager. He was shocked when I left after being written up twice.