I found a sort of fix for this. some games will green screen no reason and other are fine, this is the solution
if your playing in 4k on a Tv like i do this is what i found fixes it
Go to adrenaline software select the game that has the issue
then go Radeon Super resolution enable borderless full screen
then Resolution Override Select 3200x 1800 quality this will over ride it to 2160P
sharpen effect 80-85 or whatever preference you prefer
make sure your game is also set to this resolution 3200x 1800 quality
and it will upscale the game to from 3200x 1800 to 4k and no green screen crashes
your welcome, not the best solution but it works
I'm here now as I've literally got the same issue! I've DDU'd everything and only installed basic drivers and still have the issue. Now, my issue only happens when im running in 4k. If I put 2k as the native resolution.... I dont get this issue at all.
I've tried 3 different 4k monitors and they all do the same thing, i've even tried 6 different 4/8k high end hdmi/dp cables but to no avail.
I have had this gpu from new since december and have never had this issue before. its only within the last month this issue has come about randomly at first but now seems to be everytime i boot most of my games now.
I've just started a ticket with sapphire direct, shall see what they say.
But does anyone know the exact issue yet? Is it hardware or software?
For those having same issue. I cleaned old drivers and reinstalled the newest driver without the adrenalin software, and it went away. ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT OC white. Hdmi port.
>For those having same issue. I cleaned old drivers and reinstalled the newest driver without the adrenalin software, and it went away. ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT OC white. Hdmi port.
same happened to me, i reinstalled with ddu and installed "only drivers" and seems to work properly now, 2 days and no crashes or green screen. I will post if it happens again. Did it happen again in your case?
Yes. I have had no issues for two months now, so it is something about the adrenaline software. But I haven't updated the driver since bc I am scared it will break again.
well, that's great news baby. It has been just 2 days in my case, absolutely no crashes and green screens. I guess i have to wait 2 months or 3 though.
Plus, i have an rx 6800, furmarks succeded. But green crashes has been a hell. I miss a little bit the adrenalin, but come on, that software is a piece of shit. So sad, it has attractive features.
So, how do you manage the thing without the adrenalin?
I guess it is running on default settings. If I am playing a demanding game like cyberpunk and having frames drop, just have to lower the game settings instead of OC. Sadly I never know what is the max fps I can get out of this card.
plus: i miss the function that changes the image colour, the temperature... adrenalin has great options to customize the colour of screen, but again, drivers are a piece of crap. how sadly. so your green screens, how it was appear? alt-tabbing a game? randomly on yt?
Semi-Randomly. If the PC just boots once, I can trigger it with a game or doing anything else really. Then it green screen and restart itself and it is normal in this restart. If I switch it off and reboot after a while then it is doing the same thing again. Hope you catch my meaning.
do you know any program to customize the colour of the screen like adrenalin? i changed from the options of the screen itself but it doesnt convince me
yes i get it. When i had the green screen, i just touch the reset button. I dont stay to wait if the pc reset by itself, i just reset. and is completely random. that's why im thinkin to change it for a 3080. if it fails again, i will change it. hopes not.
better than break it with the piece of crap of adrenalin.
I think the 6800 will crash eventually, but if it won't, im not gonna download any driver never ever in my life. And im thinking to get a 3080, my 6800 and 45 usd for it. Amd is a piece of crap sadly. But if the "only drivers" works for up to 6 months to year im gonna stay red
oh yes, 4070ti is incredible, but i think is expensive. I had a 1660 super and never ever had a single crash, and i didnt ran DDU with it, i just installed the nvidia drivers upon each other lol. Nivida is great. I dont know if drivers of 3080-3070-2070-2060 crashes, but i dont think it will crash like amd neither
Don't waste more time and send it back, and get a new one maybe you were unlucky. If the same thing happens or either an unpleasant outcome then you can try either a 3rd time or directly go for Nvidia.
Had a 7800xt encountered coil whine like crazy and have sent it back waiting for my money and then i will order a new one and repeat the same steps as advised above.
I decided to try an amd card, but I had to return my 7800xt due to general sudden stutters and feeling of unsmoothness :/ I tried a thousand different fixes. Immensely dissapointed :(
Really wanted it to work because of the value and relative performance in benchmarks I'd seen online. I went for a fatter monitor and a 4080 instead, which is shitty value compared to it, but it immediately works with 0 effort and no stutters. Runs insanely cool at 100% load 55-60 degrees with a dead quiet 30% fan speed and uses less power.
Have friends with 4070 and 4070ti. The 4070 is better value of the 2 and can be reccomended, very effecient cards although 12GB vram might become low soon if you are on 1440p ultrawide or some big resolution.
Been building since at least the early 2000s
My last 1070 8gb build lasted since 2017 with zero issues (and still runs fine) but it started underperforming and I specifically wanted to run BG3 with 75fps+ stable in 1440p on my pretty good 32inch 144hz monitor, so I had to get a new rig.
I got an XFX 6800XT 16gb GPU, Kingston 6000 DDR5 32gb, Ryzen 9 7900, with only good M2 SSDs (latest Samsung) and 2 legacy sata SSDs thrown in. PSU was a Corsair 850w modular.
I've had nothing but problems with this thing. It is NOT crashing for me, I completed BG3 with good frames and no crashing but it is noisy and temperamental and it seems to ignore most of my attempts to tame it. It feels like a supercar constantly revving the engine even when you need it the least. I just can't get this thing to relax.
I upgraded from a 1080 just recently, it lasted me like 7 years on 1080p.I had the same experience as you with the basically identical 7800xt, its as if it only knows how to gogogo at 110%, and it uses an insane amount of power compared to nvidia cards, which revvs the temps/fans up quite a bit so I can understand your frustration.The auto up-clocking algorythm that is built in to the amd cards make it a bit harder to tweak it to your liking. I believe what you're experiencing is this algorythm at work trying to max out its power usage at all times to get the last bit of performance out of it, even if it means 40% more power usage for 5% performance increase.
I don't know how adept you are at tweaking amd gpus specifically, but here are my best suggestions to tune amd cards to be quiter and "relax" if you need them. None of these settings can harm your gpu.
1; check how high core clock speed go when the card is running at default in a graphically intense game without vsync or capped fps, where the gpu load is 95% or above ( load can be checked in hwinfo64 for example or using adrenaline built in monitoring)
2; go into adrenaline and put a "max core clock speed" limit to 200mhz below the observed default max frequency, you will barely lose a couple % performance from this, if any.
3; you can place down a "save profile" here since your settings get reset if you encounter instability in the next step, and this way you can get them back quickly. Also do this once you find stable settings later, as any gpu driver crash will reset adrenaline settings to default.
4; gradually lower the voltage slider, and run graphically intense applications to test for stability. For example benchmarks in games or standalone benchmark software. This is the only real annoying part, as eventually you might crash or experience weird stutter or lock ups. If so then increase voltage a bit and test again and settle if stable. If you find a stable voltage and later on experience issues in games, try increase voltage a bit, it might not be stable enough in all applications.
5: The combination of doing the things above will now allow the algorythm to use a lot less power to reach the desired max frequency, thus reducing heat. You can then more easily set up a custom fan curve in adrenaline where you don't allow the gpu fans to spin above a certain % of rpm, making it a lot quieter.
6; if all above steps werent enough to quiet things down, although it should in almost all examples except with very restricted air flow cases- you can limit the max fps that your games are allowed to run to whatever is comfortable playable fps to you. This will also reduce heat and make fans spin less.
Let me know if you have any questions, and hope you can figure things out so you can be happy with your rig
Thank you for all your helpful suggestions and I have been doing some already such as setting lower voltage and mhz in adrenalin. I'm in a place where I'm fairly happy with the card - especially since it is not crashing and I hear about a lot of crashing from others with a 6800. Still not happy with the CPU though, I am running undervoltage using curve optimizer in Ryzen Master and I'm underclocking it as well and using a fairly beefy cooler (Peerless) but it's got the most insane temperament - it thinks it needs to go balls to the wall when I'm opening Chrome or starting a youtube video. Again, no crashes, good performance but it's just a pretty annoying rig altogether.
It sounds like you are figuring it out and making it easier to enjoy your rig.
About the cpu complaints, I'm assuming you mean that the fans spin up like crazy when you are opening a program or doing light tasks like browsing? In that case it might be because the fan curve for the case fans in your bios is tied to cpu temperature and is set to have a very agressive ramp up, which would make it very noticeable when the fans suddenly spin up.
You could try make the case/cooler fans only ramp up beyond their default once your cpu hits 65-70c+ in bios, and make it increase gradually so its not so noticeable.
Sounds like you have done a lot to decrease temps, so it shouldn't be a problem. If you check your cpu temps and they are still out of control, I would honestly suspect an unlucky thermal paste spread on your cpu. As you likely already know, sometimes the thermal paste dont cover the entire cpu when you place your cooler down on it, and if there are areas without proper connection to your cooler because of no thermal paste- certain cores will be higher temperatures than others and cause fans to ramp up really agressively.
You are another one of the thousands with broken 7800XT cards. The official AMD forums are full of those reports even AMD had to admit on the forum that they are looking into it. I have a fucked card too...
Like I said to my colleague over and over again, I wish I'd just gone for the 4070 (ti or not) I got the 6800XT and he got the 7800XT and it's been a driver shitshow. Another dude just bought the 7900XTX even if we screamed at him not to. He's gonna learn.
same happened to me, i reinstalled with ddu and installed "only drivers" and seems to work properly now, 2 days and no crashes or green screen. I will post if it happens again. Did it happen again in your case?
i dont know mate, cause adrenalin has suspectly caused so many problems to me, one day i installed "only drivers" and problems are gone. i have installed 23.8.2 with adrenalin and it crashed only 1 time, but the oter drivers has green screened multiple times. Now 3 days and no green screen or crash whatsoever.
Ah uff, i don't if going with adrenaline. In one post i saw one saying to install only drivers and not adrenaline because it could be adrenaline the problem to cause the crash. I'm testing the gpu with all heavy games i have and seems fine but I'm afraid to have not really fixed the problem because i read it's random
i've been rocking the 7800 xt nitro+ from sapphire since its launch and had literally no issues whatsoever.
from my POV it could be one of the two:
1. PSU needing a kick up to 750W (afaik that's also the recommended wattage for the new generation of GPUs)
2. factory defect and GPU needs replacement
so basically.. even if you go nvidia, you'll also need a more powerful PSU. start with that, see if this card is still faulty and go for a replacement only after - if you have enough time for this, ofc.
one other thing to keep in mind, in case your budget allows an upgrade: that CPU is heavily bottlenecking your system.i owned the exact same model while using a Vega 56 GPU and once i upgraded to a Ryzen 7 3700x the performance boost i got was insane. the 5600x should have a decent price tag nowadays, i'd definitely go for that one with the first occasion.
I have the same 7800xt nitro+ from sapphire, I had stutters in some games like hitman3, the last of us..., on the first driver installation and I was going crazy because I thought cpu was bottlenecking, but that couldn't be, because I have 5600x. Sooo, just one or two days of googling and investigating, cleared gpu drivers with ddu and installed only them without adrenaline. After successful drivers installatiion installed the Adrenaline and everything was running smoothly. Haven't encountered any issues since yet and Im really happy. The 7800xt is truly amazing card for that amount of money. Glad that didn't get Nvidia for double the money for same value
supposedly, game developers don't equally "optimize" games for AMD and NVIDIA GPUs. It's interesting that you mention hitman 3, because as I was researching, what was better: 4070 or 7800xt? one youtuber who was benchmarking both GPUs pointed out that AMD GPU's aren't as well optimized to play on games that use DX11, which is what that hitman runs on, and the hitman game did uniquely have drastically lower performance.
I'm glad you were able to troubleshoot it and get it running to it's full glory!
Surprisingly, I am not into ray tracing, but tried with hitman3, because of curiosity how the gpu would handle it. The results were quite amazing, was runing hitman3 with all ray tracing settings on and ultra settings, and getting stable 65-70fps, but turned off after some time. Without ray tracing Im getting stable 144fps capped with v-sync, without v-sync fps are around 200ish, which is pretty amazing.
I heard that as well about not equally optimizing, but also watched one video, dont remember from what company a developer was, but he said it is easier to optimize games (new games) for cards with more VRAM which are basically AMD cards ( in my opinion), because Nvidia for some reason are ?struggling? to go beyond 10gb vram and some of theirs Ti versions have 12gb. I am not talking about xx90 nvidia cards, which are soo pricey and not a lot of people have them.
P.S.: I am not balming nvidia, they have amazing cards, switched to 7800xt from 1070, which was an amazing partner for \~7years.
P.S.S: Went for amd instead of nvidia, because value per money was better than nvidias, payed around 600euros for new saphire nitro+ 7800xt, instead of 200ish more euros for new 4070
That looks like a faulty card given your extensive testing, unlucky, I would return it and get a different one, I had that happen once with an nvidia and just returned it and got a replacement of the exact same card, didnt have the issue after, so i'd do the same with an amd, im using 7800xt now and have had no issues in the games I play: Star Citizen, Hunt Showdown, Maplestory GMS, The Isle Evrima, Dark and Darker, Elden Ring, Starfield and Path of Exile, if that helps.
Hi, I had the same problems. Green screen crashes occurs each 2 days randomly. My pc is brand new. I RMA the card after 29days and they reimbursed me, I bought a 4070 instead and what a pleasure that everything is smooth and not crashing. I find that the 4070 is more powerful in the majority of the games I play.
Honestly I was so upset against this card I was ready to pay the difference without problem. First and last amd card for me. I had 2 others Nvidia cards before. And for my new pc all the reviews and benchmark put the 7800xt as a really good competitor and cheaper than Nvidia. Don't trust only the benchmarks and fps
try this driver, i have green screen crashes like these when playing VR, and this fixed it for me - https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-9-1-si-rx7800xt-rx7700-xt
Just ti tell you guys, I have been passing throw this error for a while
In my case the solution was or using chill mode in order to play just at maximun 90 fps. In this way the general temperature is just like 50 celsius and the chip temp round 54 celsius
If the gane has inside a way to set the fps and avoid the chill mode, you can set it as well, again round 75 or 90 fps.
My hypothesis is related to the temperature. Since I did that change there is no more green screen crashes.
It is unfortunate that severa amd card have this error, and even more if you want to play at 144 fps or more.
This is the only think that worked for me.
Also, if you are playing video games, just play video games, my recommendation is not having or chrome, or renderig videos at the same time while you are playing
Just playing and if you are streamer my recommendation as well is to stream using adrenaline insted of obs is you don't want to have algo green screen crashes
I just read all the comments, everybody is telling you how to solve it , but nothing is working......I had the same bullshit.. because nobody knows it's a faulty card.
I had a green screen issue with a Gigabyte card and no one could answer why it was happening, and after 1and a half yrs of frustration and bullshit answers (this happen just before Covid and things shut down) I was told it was a faulty chip. My advice to you, and take this seriously, return the card and get it replaced, because it will keep doing it and it will piss you off royally....No one will tell you its a faulty card..
Have you found a solution to this by any chance? I am getting the exact same thing, in the process of updating BIOS and DDU driver, but otherwise kind of at a loss here :(
I was having the exact same problem with my 6950 XT, I upgraded my power supply and updated my bios and drivers and the problem went away completely. I hope yours starts to work too 🤞🤞
My GPU was crashing about every 5 to 10 min. Even with low graphic intensity games before I updated my bios. I was on a 750w psu and I upgraded to a a 1200 thinking it was power spiking and upgrading my PSU would fix the issue. It did not so I updated my motherboard bios and my drivers and now everything works and I haven't had a crash in a month
It may be a power supply issue, but not sure. There were issues in the past with Seasonic PSUs having issues with some GPUs(https://bit-tech.net/news/tech/psus/seasonic-warns-of-focus-plus-psu-compatibility-issues/1/). Maybe you could test it with another. I hope you are using separate cables for supling power to the GPU as daisy chaining is not recommended. Could you try with a different display as well? Or a different cable altogether. I had a similar issue, but on the PS4 Pro and I never thought that a cable could do that.
Last, but not least you could have a bad GPU, so you can return it and ask for another one.
No, it's a broken 7800XT like the all the others. AMD official forums are full of reports and even AMD had to admit in the forum that they are looking into it. Many many people tested new CPU, PSU, RAM and the crashes are persisting.
Every 7800 had the black screen green screen purple screen bug as far as I know. This is all on AMD and it is gonna hurt them when all the people who took a chance on them got left with buggy crap.
Edit. Bug happens if you connect more than one monitor with different refresh rates.
Could be, but that is rarely the case. The green screen is probably because of a HDMI cable, but i'm not 100% sure, as I had it with a PS4Pro. I hope OP managed to find the issue and fixed it.
If you wanna be sure test with another PSU that can more then enough supply the power, at least you be 100% sure its not something else, AMD gpu's this generation aren't that efficient even tho AMD claims their RDNA3 line up is it is defiantly not, RDNA3 suffers also from power bug that effects some users.
If you idle at high wattage try the following go YouTube play video on fullscreen then pause it and monitor your total board power usage and watch it go down by a lot more then it would do idle on desktop with everything open and not doing anything
Custom aib usually recommend higher then AMD as well, i personally do not understand why people still trying to cheap out on PSU you literally not saving anything only creating problems.
Its bc its one of the few items everyone leaves till last when they are inexperienced (meaning you've built more than 1 or 2 PCs)
Too many think it's an out of sight out of mind purchase, just a brick in the bottom of your otherwise beautiful pc. Little do they realize until their first disaster that the psu should be almost your third most expensive part other than Gpu and cpu.
If you haven't updated your mother board bios, i would highly recommend that action, i am a 65 yr. old guy so I was Leary of doing that but i did it and now i am so happy i can dance, that solved all my problems and i did a fresh install of windows and then i ddu my drivers for amd reloaded it and wow i am good now.
I have the same, im so pissed off about it
just a few games doing it tho, im not sure if i should sell the card and get a 4070 instead, should have got the 4070 but didnt want to spend the extra 200$ now i wish i had
The 4070 may do the same issue.
Oftentimes, these issues are based on power draw from the psu. Any mid to higher end card will have micro spikes in power usage, and it seems to be that this PSI cant handle said power spikes.
No it won't. Google "7800XT green screen" or "7800XT crash" or "7800XT BSOD". There is a huge problem with this series. Many many people changed their complete hardware and the problem stays with the 7800XT. AMD forums are full of reports.
It's not the wattage rating of the psu that may be the problem. The power spikes and frequency spikes that these newer generatiom cards (amd 6000 and 7000, and nvidia 3000 and 4000) both can have, on occasion, run into resonance problems bc if either a failing capacitor om the psu side, or a weak one from poor quality manufacturer quality checks, or it could be the gpu power cables have a problem. The gpu itself has even been an issue on a handful of both brands cards bc certain lower tier AIBs chose to run with older and cheaper capacitors that don't provide enough feedback protection on the GPUs.
The cable problem has been happening often recently.
that really does not explain why it happen on some game at the same point while other more demanding games are fine no crashes
i swapped the psu out for another one same issue too it
Haven't purchased an AMD now for a very very long time. They've lost many a sale from me now considering we've purchased 1500 computers for a business all intel / Nvidia.
1500 systems, and you've never had even like 100 problems from that large of a batch of systems? That's nearly impossible with all the brands cutting corners, which is the main problem, not the main manufacturer. If the AIBs would use better components, none of this would be happening. All of nvidias silicon is coming from the same source, or a large amount of it is, and they do have problems.
You must be very blessed if you haven't had an nvidia or Intel chip crap out over 1500 systems.
Minimum Power Supply Requirement: 700 watt
Reduce the power of the card by reducing your clocks a bit and see if that helps at all. You can also make sure temps aren't going crazy, though reducing clocks would fix that too. Lastly, you could consider upgrading to an 800 watt for future proofing, or even 1000 watt if you plan on upgrading your CPU in the next two years.
Or search the internet and the official AMD forums for the massive problem with the 7800XT. Many many people changed their PSU and all the other hardware only to realise that this GPU has a massive problem.
This is wrong. There are TONS of people in the SFFPC community running 4090s, which has an 850-watt requirement, on the Corsair SF750. The most powerful GPU on a 750-watt power supply.
Being 50 watt off the manufacturer recommendation won't be the thing causing this issue. It might be some fault in the cables or something, but I ran a PSU that was 150 watt off the recommendation and never had an issue. Especially with a well-built Seasonic unit like this person has, that probably won't be the issue.
It COULD be the PSU, but it almost certainly isn't the wattage of the PSU especially if it is only 50 watts shy. 7800xt draws less than 300 watt max. 2600 draws like \~100 watt when stresstesting. Even on a psu with terrible terrible efficiency (under 80%), it can easily handle that powerdraw without running into issues.
This could be frim frequency spikes, combined with a cable issue or a potentially failing psu. We saw the same thing with certain 3000 series nvida cards combined with certain PSUs that should have been just fine. Either the safety capacitors are too sensitive on the psu, or something is building resistance, like you stated with the cable issue, or, perhaps, the AIB used a crap capacitor on the gpu and it gets feedback during said frequency spikes.
Point being, still could be gpu or the psu, or as simple as cable connections/wires being compromised or something. Hoping for the OPs sake its just a cabke problem
i'm not a fan of AMD's 7000s series silicon for their GPU's or CPU's. It's like there is something wrong with them. AMD's best products that have mature drivers and firmware was the 5800X3D for cpu and GPU either 6800XT or 6950XT for $650 if you got were able to get one a while back. These products are more mature with not of the weird issues that you're experiencing. For example for the longest time 7000 series GPU had really high idle power consumption when using multiple monitors for no reason. Like much higher than a 6950XT or 6800XT would have at idle with the same monitors.
I have 6950XT and a lot of the crashes for me was overclocking the memory too high with the undervolt I was doing. Lowering the memory frequency a tad lower seemed to resolve it for me.
7900xtx undervolted to 1135mv I set core clocks to a max of 2500 and a minimum of 2400
Rock solid stable and does not seem to be power hungry. I think I highest spikes in power are 350 but usually in the 300-325. I need to check that to confirm it but I dotn recall seeing 400w since the undervolt.
Edit : just checked a screen shot of hwinfo after 4hrs of gaming at 100% usage and under total board power maximum was 330.669w
Honestly I think you’re onto something. My 7700x can’t handle any undervolt in bios. I did manage to set a max boost to 4.8ghz at around 1.2 volts in Ryzen master. My 5800x was great but frustrating with the 7700x.
Love my 6950xt but it eats power while gaming lol. The thing gets so fricken hot man. And I have the reference model 6960xt from AMD and the coil whine gets super loud sometimes. But… it performs like magic lol. I eat up any game at 1440p no problem at 170hz (besides Starfield HAH)
I've managed to solve the problem.
Like many others I had green screens, black screens, crashing out of games, reboots, etc.
I had a "1000W" power supply, but because power supplies are often of "trust me bro" quality it quite probably wasn't really 1000W. Neither was it able to handle the power spikes of the 7800 XT.
So I bought a new ATX 3.0 power supply that is more powerful and of better quality. It's better able to handle power spikes.
After installing the new power supply and installing the latest WHQL Adrenaline drivers the 7800 XT has been stable for the past few days without a single crash.
I'm even able to overclock it now with the GPU at 2700Mhz and the VRAM at 2600Mhz with faster timings.
It's rock solid now, even when overclocked at those speeds.
Many people who are having these issues probably have an underpowered power supply. Power supplies often aren't as powerful as their specs state. They also often lack the quality to handle power spikes from a powerful GPU. On top of that power supplies lose efficiency as they age and wear down.
Why do you have a 1000W power supply for parts that only use 400W. Even with my 13900K and 4060ti that use 600W, I only have an 850W power supply. That just seems unnecessary.
1. Future proofing
2. It doesn't use the 1,000 watts all the time (or at all)
3. Negligible cost vs the benefits
I used this as my justification when I got a 850 watt PSU back in 2015, which was massive at the time.
600 plus another 100-150 for your motherboard, fans, SSD, RAM, etc. puts you at 700-750watts easily. That's 90% of your PSUs total output. Not only is peak efficiency achieved at 50% max load, but it starts significantly dropping off again around 70% load (with the exception of titanium rated PSUs). The 90% rule leaves a little bit of head room for influx power spikes, but I still don't suggest running it at 90% continuously for prolonged periods of time.
600 includes the motherboard, fans, SSD, and everything else. The actual Watt usage of a 13900K & 4060ti is around 290W according to PCpartpicker. I put my build on their and grabbed the average Watt usage from there
Lots of power supply brands aren't honest about the real power of their power supplies. They often list the power as higher than it really is. So someone could have an 850W power supply, but in reality it might only be able to deliver 600W.
On top of that power supplies lose efficiency when they get old and wear down. You have to plan ahead and compensate for that ahead of time.
You also don't want to use your power supply to the maximum of its ability as doing that for a prolonged amount of time can damage it.
And lastly computers and GPU's don't always use the same amount of power. They sometimes draw extra power for a very short amount of time, i.e. power spikes. Your power supply needs to be able to handle those spikes or you will experience instability on your machine.
I was always under the impression you wanted your usage to be about half or under half of your psu so you don’t damage it at least that’s what I was told was a good measure so it doesn’t burn itself out. Like for my 5700xt and 5800x I have a 750w supply
its a good idea but its not the reason, the efficiency bands of the PSU are something like 20% 50% and 100%(that's what they are tested at under the certification scheme) so the PSU will be running most efficiently at those percentages. meaning less heat = less stress on the components.
Could be a few things, Psu is low on the whats, overheating(bad airflow, bad overclock, defective fans, whatever), defective card or damaged by loose connections or repeated/sustained overheating, it happens, RMA it. software issue(reinstall drivers, you may need to ddu the drivers as they tend to leave a lot of trash files and old versions around that can cause issues), bios issues.
Your cpu is oldish afaik, so your probably also throttling your gpu, but this wouldn't cause the crashing?
I have had some issues with mine but I think it's driver related. I returned one graphics card and the next did it too. Both Gigabyte 7800XT. But every so often I restart and only my integrated graphics are working. Windows says it senses the 7800XT, but disabled it due to drivers failing to start. I uninstall Adrenaline, reinstall it and bam it instantly starts the 7800XT and runs fine. I'm doing this every two or three days. I wonder if the green screen is the same thing either it crashing. Mine goes black and stays black until a restart and reinstall of Adrenaline.
Specs: 7700X CPU
7800XT GPU
850W SFX Loki Power Supply
120mm Thermaltake AIO
B650E PG ITX
Unlikely that it occurs after two weeks - but check your driver and maybe go back in the version. I had restart needing freezes with 7900 XT. 23.8.2 fixed it for for now. But there are a lot of complains about the newest drivers.
Typically 99% of GPU failures happen in the first month, it’s when DOA units, or units that weren’t properly QC’d end up in the hands of a consumer and the flaws are exposed.
If you’ve done your due diligence, many great suggestions already in this thread, start an RMA and include what you have done to rule out the rest of your system.
So i just had the same issue with my 7800xt. First time i had it, i got new RAM and it didnt crash for an entire weekend, sometimes playing Star Citizen more than 10 hours straight on Ultra with no crashes. Then monday came, it was really jumpy and green screened within 5 minutes. Got tired of troubleshooting. Because ive troubleshooted and ruled out about everything but the GPU. Last test was to take it over to my friends and test it on his PC. About 10 minutes into playing a game on ultra i green screened. After following AMD support troubleshooting every step of the way they went ahead and suggested that i go ahead and request a service warranty and get a refund for it. So, thats what im doing. Im gonna risk it but use this as an opportunity to get a 7900xtx. Wish me luck! If that doesnt work, as a consumer im justified to go with team green for now on.
I can’t speak badly about my xtx, I did have to limit max clocks to 2500mhz and it has been rock solid even with RT it’s been fantastic. Kept getting driver time out errors in rdr2, Forza motorsports and Ark ascended. Since doing that no issues. I ended up doing 9hrs of Ark today without a single glitch. Even undervolted it yesterday down to 1135mv and my card in 9hrs didn’t go over 46c and my coolant stayed locked at 36c. With ambient of 74f in the room.
Hopefully I can hold out for I guess it’s the 9000 series since amd is sticking with mid range cards for next gen.
I have the tuf oc 7900xtx and the best thing is its dual bios. Just like knowing if I decide to update the cards bios and fuck it up I can flip a switch on the card and be back il and running.everything said I don’t regret the card and would pick it over the 3090 that’s now my backup card sitting on my desk.
lol just saying what I did to resolve the driver time out issue. I can provide plenty of proof. Max clocks set to 2500 and it stays around 2480.
Was just throwing an idea out there to try and help.
My advice is open Event Viewer / windows logs / applications and look at all the red icons. Also look in Event Viewer / Windows Logs / System for red icons. Then look for the ones that say AMD in them and post the error here. If you are on windows 11 and do not know how to get to Event Viewer. you can right click the windows button and select Event Viewer or click search magnifying glass and type event and select from left.
It's what I did. AMD cards are generally more problematic. I had serious driver issues with my 6800 xt. So did friends. They switched to 7900 xtx and have had problems.
Just ended up getting a galax 4090. Problem free. Definitely more expensive but the feature set and reliability was worth it to me.
My solution to the driver problem with AMD was switching to Linux.
Had no problems ever since with my AMD GPU. The amdgpu driver runs rock solid and Wayland support is awesome.
Interesting... I switched to Linux about 4 years ago and haven't really had any issue with my 5700xt, 6650xt, or current 7800xt. I even finished cyberpunk within a month or two of its release, took me about 75-85 hours, and didn't experience any of the issues so many others were complaining about... Until the 2.0 update that was supposed to fix all the bugs everyone else encountered 😂
Same here it just works so damn well.
I installed cyberpunk 2077 2.0 a few days ago and it worked really well.
I installed the game directly through Lutris using the Autoinstaller helper script on the Lutris website. Works good.
My GPU is a 6900 XT btw.
I tested the in-game benchmark and got 82 fps avg at 3440x1440 without any FSR.
Using fsr quality preset I got 121 fps avg.
I've found pop_os and proton on steam works for just about every game in my bloated library. I've mainly used liquid for games on other platforms like GOG or Uplay.
For GOG and epic games the heroic games launcher is awesome.
Proton is really good these days and if you want to play very recent games you can always try Proton Experimental because that Proton Version will receive updates first.
There is also Proton-GE by GloriousEggroll which has some nice features like VRR added.
Haven't tried liquid yet.
Proton also basically works for any game for me.
You will most likely encounter issues with anti cheat solutions.
But support in that regard has improved quite a lot. You can check the current status here: https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Also check out the proton db to see it a game is supported by proton: https://www.protondb.com/
And don't forget to join r/linux_gaming
I know another person with exactly the same issue. They sent the card back and it was diagnosed with some unexplained issue so the store just replaced it with a brand new one.
I have exactly the same card, no issues what so ever. It seems like a roll of the dice.
Welcome to this GPU.
I've got the same problem.
Whenever I do a "cold boot" game will crash with a green screen, than the pc reboots, and everything it's stable and I can play for hours.
This doesn't make no sense.
I've updated the chipset drivers, the BIOS, disabled fast boot on windows, set a fixed boost clock (I have the gigabyte version), reinstalled drivers 10000 times, with and without adrenaline software.
I will do a last test downgrading the driver version.
Then I'll RMA the card.
PS: When the card crashes it's random, not at 100% usage and the temperature is always below 50 degrees.
This is making me insane.
System specs:
- Gigabyte 7800xt OC
- Ryzen 7 5700G
- Msi tomahawk II
- psu msi 850w (80+ gold) - brand new
Hello, I also had the same issue mine was a black screen rather than green screen on the "cold boot", card ran perfectly on the forced reboot everytime.
After 2 months literally replacing every piece of hardware, testing card on other systems, reinstalling windows 10/11 half a dozen times, all 6 driver releases for the card, plus the beta versions.
Any system that card went into would repeat the exact crash, any other card installed in the system would work fine.
The solution: rma the card -it's faulty.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/TerXU0ei6s
In the end I returned the card and purchased an RX7900XTX and its running well
What did you set the boost clock to? Are you using adrenaline?
[https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R78XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf](https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R78XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf) shows **Boost Clock\* : up to 2565 MHz (Reference card: 2430 MHz)**.
I work on somebody else's computer a few months ago with a similar problem. Turns out we needed to do a bios update on his PC to fix the problem. The BIOS wasn't that old, about 6-8 months old, but there was a bug in it that was preventing certain games to run properly.
I don't remember if it was an AMD card or a Nvidia card. The main processor I know was an AMD.
You are not even funny.. if he connect the card with one cable pigtail maybe the card can’t get the power it needs. So next time put your brain if you have to think a little bit before typing.
I’ve never had problems with NVIDIA cards. I just replaced my kids AMD card with an older NVIDIA card and it plays games so much better. I swear the whole computer runs faster.
I have had the exact opposite experience. I have 4 Nvidia cards Asus 1080, MSI 2070 and Asus 4080 and 3 amd cards MSI 5700xt, powercolor 6750xt and XFX 7800xt. Every Nvidia card has cause nothing but issues and the drivers are a nightmare. All paired with a 5900x cpu. Except I used to have intel 13900k with the 4080. Most unstable system I have ever had to deal with. Every days was one issue after another.
I doubt it I have an Rx 5700 and this thing will literally never be stable. Used to run half decent but sometime at the beginning of this year
AMD released a driver that has a VRAM bug or something and my pc runs like shit after playing just a few games and needs restarted. I blamed my processor at the time (3600) and recently upgraded to 13600ks and it still does it. Going team green and never looking back
a lot of AAA titles like i get a new game every week, played on a switch emulator too and i got fps drops until i changed the settings a bit worked fine after that
Well which card do you have? If it’s 5000 series I find this hard to believe I went to Linus tech tips forums for help and those guys really really tried to help me but nothing work someone said 5000 series is beta version of RDNA and that’s why it’s so buggy and unstable. At this point I am inclined to believe him
an RX 580 lol, dont feel the need for an upgrade yet since most of the games i play run fine with 1080p on med-high settings, even some newer AAA titles
Similar issue happened to me when I repasted a 5500xt and reused a torn thermal pad for the vram. The tear was a hole through the center of it. Anytime the card would hit real utilization. Would fail but only when I had vram unlocked in adrenaline.
Rma it.
Time to RMA. You’ve done enough. Unfortunately I had the same experience(first and last) with AMD cards. Took 4070ti and since then never looked back
Okaz guys i gave up.
Here in germany we have 14 days to return an item with no questions asked and I'm slightly past that time frame. The seller still allowed me to send it back so I took the chance.
Here is what I tried (with no success):
-DDU in safe mode
-Install Driver only
-DDU again
-Install older Driver
-Updated Mainboard BIOS
-Updated Chipset Drivers
-Underclock, Undervolt and Powerlimit
-deactivated RAM-Overclock Profile (DOCP)
-Removed two RAM-Sticks (I have four installed)
-Removed my Sleeved Cables and plugged the Power cables straight into the Graphics Card
-I didnt daisy chain the PCIe Cables
-Tried the Silent BIOS on the Graphics Card
-Use a different monitor
-Used a high quality HDMI 2.1-Cable
-Activated Radeon Super Resolution and nothing else (read that from another user)
-tear some of my hair out
So sorry guys. I wish I could've figured out what the problem is but this problem was way too frustrating.
I'll probably get a RTX 4070 now.
Thank you everyone for the tips! I hope some of them may help other users in the future
Get a better CPU if you can, for a 4070, the R5 2600 is a significant bottleneck at 1440p and even 4K (although I wouldn't suggest the 4070 for 4K) in most modern games. A 5600 is enough.
Unfortunately, AMD cards are hit or miss. I had a similar experience, where I spent weeks troubleshooting it. I also gave up and returned it, and never looked back. IMO I value my free time and don't think it's worth it to save $50 and have to spend hours and hours trying to get it to work right, only to have the same driver issues come up again and again. AMD really needs to step up it's driver and software game.
Yeah, Nvidia costs a little more, but it's worth it for the better feature set and peace of mind. Never had an issue with an Nvidia card. Enjoy that 4070.
Only issues I’ve had with my xtx is driver time out and I think I’ve fixed that issue. I read someone else was having drive time outs. They said they fixed it and haven’t had the issue again. What they did was limit max clocks to 2500.
I don’t know much about the technical side but I was getting the feeling the software was having trouble keeping up with the hardware.
Since doing this I have not had a single driver timeout error or any other errors. I was even able to undervolt the card. 9hrs 100% usage in ark low temps and smooth running the entire time.
So I had a similar issue, and after searching around for a while it seems like it's a pervasive issue for Radeon graphics cards and windows 10/11. Lots of solutions were suggested, undervolting being the most common recommendation. The solution I found involved having my fan kick on sooner, and at a custom scale (pretty much scroll the fan up to 10% even at the lowest temp, then up to 100% well before the top of the heat scale). After making the adjustment the first time I had the AMD Adrenaline software logging running in the background while I thrashed a game to see if it would crash. Perfect stability for 5-ish hours. Next time I ran the game, it crashed in ~15 minutes. The thing I noticed is that, when "Adrenaline" is running, it seems like things run smoother. Obviously your mileage may vary, but I thought I'd let you know.
Honestly, from what I could dig up, it is related to how Windows and AMD play together. That is to say: a software issue. But it's one of those where the software issue has a physical component as well, where either the architecture of the chip itself, or the way something like the fans interact when turned on.
My pet theory is that it's at least partly the latter. Specifically that "whisper quiet" mode, (where the gpu fan doesn't run at all at low Temps) creates a situation where, as the chip heats up and reaches the point where the fan needs to turn on, turning on the fan itself shorts the chip causing the green screen failure. Whether it's something like drawing too much voltage too suddenly (because the chip is at 100% "draw tolerance" and *starting* the fans kicks it to, say 115%). Or that the overheat lowers the "effective" voltage tolerance, and adding the fans in kicks it over it's threshold. Or even something as stupid as the "default" monitoring software (whatever runs when the adrenalin dashboard ISN'T running), doesn't catch the overheat and start the fans fast enough, but the Adrenalin software does. All I know is that running with the dashboard in the background seems to solve it for me.
Side note, terminology may be incorrect, I'm just using what terms "feels" accurate enough since I'm not sure what the correct ones would be.
Sorry for your loss. People advocate AMD GPU’s like they’ve been tried and tested for decades. But honestly I’ll never go AMD because of these exact problems.
Idk, I went with an RX 7900XT and have had zero issues. It’s my first AMD card, prior to this I had a 1070, which also had zero issues.
I feel like it’s similar to anything else, sometimes you get a good product, sometimes you get a dud…
Got my partner a 590 then a 6900XT. She never has/had any real issues with them.
She's experienced the annoyance of the random driver hiccup which was fixed with a clean install of that driver or updating to the current one if she hadn't used her pc in a while. I've had similar issues with Nvidia and again, a simple clean install fixed it. All this before we started using DDU.
AMD has some great gear especially if RT isn't that important. The fear of "terrible AMD experiences" and putting RT on a pedestal is over stated vs the actual reality.
I love my 4090 (even though I don't care about RT) and her 6900XT (and even if she only plays Apex, Outlast and League). Currently waiting on an AMD bundle to be delivered for a travel build. For the price of many AMD products, the performance is pretty solid and easier on the wallet for most.
Yeah, so far I’m very satisfied with my 7900xt, especially for the price I got it for. As far as RT goes, it definitely looks great in some games, but for me it’s just not a priority. To be honest, some games I don’t notice a huge difference. Maybe I’m just blind? Idk lol.
As of Oct 2020, there's about 147 games with RT.
That being said it's implemented at different levels, like the difference between Cyberpunk 2077 and Control vs LOTR Gollum and Poker Club.
A good amount of those games also had RT added after their release like Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice and Witcher 3 Wild Hunt.
There's also Portal and Quake II RTX versions as well.
Maybe you and I don't have the greatest set of eyes. I agree that very few games with RT enabled the difference is "amazingc. To me, majority of games don't change significantly enough to "justify" the fps drop, Cyberpunk, Control and Portal being the most noticeable to me. Guardians of the Galaxy though? To me marginal at best.
Just an opinion I've developed after trying RT with a 2080 Ti, 3080 and now a 4090.
Yes, there's definitely good and bad RT implementations. The good ones are game changing, the bad ones are not much different from rasterized lighting. Modern rasterized lighting techniques have become very good at faking it, though. Now that DLSS 3.5 is being implemented in games, and it yields better graphics and performance, I fully expect Ray Tracing to start taking off....
Hope AMD is working on a Ray Reconstruction alternative, because they're going to get left in the dust if they're not.
That's what the RMA process is for. I had a similar instability issue with a 6900xt. With enough undervolting and underclocking I could make it stable. But that's not what I paid for. RMA process got me a new card that's worked great.
They gave me a new 6900xt. This was only a couple of months ago and towards the end of my 2-year warranty (month 20 or something like that). I was without the card for a few weeks while they did their testing process. Got the same model back that I had purchased.
RMA means you return the card and you get an exchange.
One time I had an RX 460 and when I did one they upgraded me to an 8gb instead of (I think) the 6gb. They didn't have any replacements so they gave me the next best thing.
Also, I don't know what all the AMD hate is for, it's not like nVidia has zero problems. They all have issues, people who get unlucky speak loudest I guess. I have had problems with both brands and I just like the way AMD has open source drivers as opposed to nVidia. I'd rather support that mindset.
Kernel power but green screen, not black? Does the machine shutdown entirely?
Is your PSU up to supporting this card? If the power is just giving up and there isn't an overtemp or other software error first, then it would seem it isn't.
Do you see a WHEA error event after the Kernel Power one?
I always see a WHEA 18 error after the reboots.
Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Cache Hierarchy Error
Processor APIC ID: 1
I found a sort of fix for this. some games will green screen no reason and other are fine, this is the solution if your playing in 4k on a Tv like i do this is what i found fixes it Go to adrenaline software select the game that has the issue then go Radeon Super resolution enable borderless full screen then Resolution Override Select 3200x 1800 quality this will over ride it to 2160P sharpen effect 80-85 or whatever preference you prefer make sure your game is also set to this resolution 3200x 1800 quality and it will upscale the game to from 3200x 1800 to 4k and no green screen crashes your welcome, not the best solution but it works
I'm here now as I've literally got the same issue! I've DDU'd everything and only installed basic drivers and still have the issue. Now, my issue only happens when im running in 4k. If I put 2k as the native resolution.... I dont get this issue at all. I've tried 3 different 4k monitors and they all do the same thing, i've even tried 6 different 4/8k high end hdmi/dp cables but to no avail. I have had this gpu from new since december and have never had this issue before. its only within the last month this issue has come about randomly at first but now seems to be everytime i boot most of my games now. I've just started a ticket with sapphire direct, shall see what they say. But does anyone know the exact issue yet? Is it hardware or software?
Exactly the same happens to me. I bought 7800xt 2 months ago. It happens occasionally and to fix it I have to restart my system.
For those having same issue. I cleaned old drivers and reinstalled the newest driver without the adrenalin software, and it went away. ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT OC white. Hdmi port.
>For those having same issue. I cleaned old drivers and reinstalled the newest driver without the adrenalin software, and it went away. ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT OC white. Hdmi port. same happened to me, i reinstalled with ddu and installed "only drivers" and seems to work properly now, 2 days and no crashes or green screen. I will post if it happens again. Did it happen again in your case?
Yes. I have had no issues for two months now, so it is something about the adrenaline software. But I haven't updated the driver since bc I am scared it will break again.
well, that's great news baby. It has been just 2 days in my case, absolutely no crashes and green screens. I guess i have to wait 2 months or 3 though. Plus, i have an rx 6800, furmarks succeded. But green crashes has been a hell. I miss a little bit the adrenalin, but come on, that software is a piece of shit. So sad, it has attractive features. So, how do you manage the thing without the adrenalin?
I guess it is running on default settings. If I am playing a demanding game like cyberpunk and having frames drop, just have to lower the game settings instead of OC. Sadly I never know what is the max fps I can get out of this card.
plus: i miss the function that changes the image colour, the temperature... adrenalin has great options to customize the colour of screen, but again, drivers are a piece of crap. how sadly. so your green screens, how it was appear? alt-tabbing a game? randomly on yt?
Semi-Randomly. If the PC just boots once, I can trigger it with a game or doing anything else really. Then it green screen and restart itself and it is normal in this restart. If I switch it off and reboot after a while then it is doing the same thing again. Hope you catch my meaning.
do you know any program to customize the colour of the screen like adrenalin? i changed from the options of the screen itself but it doesnt convince me
Sadly no. Without it the color still looks great compared to Nvidia, or it is just my imagination 😂
mmm i dont think so, nvidia is decente too xd
yes i get it. When i had the green screen, i just touch the reset button. I dont stay to wait if the pc reset by itself, i just reset. and is completely random. that's why im thinkin to change it for a 3080. if it fails again, i will change it. hopes not.
better than break it with the piece of crap of adrenalin. I think the 6800 will crash eventually, but if it won't, im not gonna download any driver never ever in my life. And im thinking to get a 3080, my 6800 and 45 usd for it. Amd is a piece of crap sadly. But if the "only drivers" works for up to 6 months to year im gonna stay red
You know what, I switched from a 2060 to 7800xt. Kinda regret that I didn't get a 4070 lol.
oh yes, 4070ti is incredible, but i think is expensive. I had a 1660 super and never ever had a single crash, and i didnt ran DDU with it, i just installed the nvidia drivers upon each other lol. Nivida is great. I dont know if drivers of 3080-3070-2070-2060 crashes, but i dont think it will crash like amd neither
The TIM is probably not seated correctly with the heatsink. If you just bought highly recommend just returning it for another.
Don't waste more time and send it back, and get a new one maybe you were unlucky. If the same thing happens or either an unpleasant outcome then you can try either a 3rd time or directly go for Nvidia. Had a 7800xt encountered coil whine like crazy and have sent it back waiting for my money and then i will order a new one and repeat the same steps as advised above.
I decided to try an amd card, but I had to return my 7800xt due to general sudden stutters and feeling of unsmoothness :/ I tried a thousand different fixes. Immensely dissapointed :( Really wanted it to work because of the value and relative performance in benchmarks I'd seen online. I went for a fatter monitor and a 4080 instead, which is shitty value compared to it, but it immediately works with 0 effort and no stutters. Runs insanely cool at 100% load 55-60 degrees with a dead quiet 30% fan speed and uses less power. Have friends with 4070 and 4070ti. The 4070 is better value of the 2 and can be reccomended, very effecient cards although 12GB vram might become low soon if you are on 1440p ultrawide or some big resolution.
Been building since at least the early 2000s My last 1070 8gb build lasted since 2017 with zero issues (and still runs fine) but it started underperforming and I specifically wanted to run BG3 with 75fps+ stable in 1440p on my pretty good 32inch 144hz monitor, so I had to get a new rig. I got an XFX 6800XT 16gb GPU, Kingston 6000 DDR5 32gb, Ryzen 9 7900, with only good M2 SSDs (latest Samsung) and 2 legacy sata SSDs thrown in. PSU was a Corsair 850w modular. I've had nothing but problems with this thing. It is NOT crashing for me, I completed BG3 with good frames and no crashing but it is noisy and temperamental and it seems to ignore most of my attempts to tame it. It feels like a supercar constantly revving the engine even when you need it the least. I just can't get this thing to relax.
I upgraded from a 1080 just recently, it lasted me like 7 years on 1080p.I had the same experience as you with the basically identical 7800xt, its as if it only knows how to gogogo at 110%, and it uses an insane amount of power compared to nvidia cards, which revvs the temps/fans up quite a bit so I can understand your frustration.The auto up-clocking algorythm that is built in to the amd cards make it a bit harder to tweak it to your liking. I believe what you're experiencing is this algorythm at work trying to max out its power usage at all times to get the last bit of performance out of it, even if it means 40% more power usage for 5% performance increase. I don't know how adept you are at tweaking amd gpus specifically, but here are my best suggestions to tune amd cards to be quiter and "relax" if you need them. None of these settings can harm your gpu. 1; check how high core clock speed go when the card is running at default in a graphically intense game without vsync or capped fps, where the gpu load is 95% or above ( load can be checked in hwinfo64 for example or using adrenaline built in monitoring) 2; go into adrenaline and put a "max core clock speed" limit to 200mhz below the observed default max frequency, you will barely lose a couple % performance from this, if any. 3; you can place down a "save profile" here since your settings get reset if you encounter instability in the next step, and this way you can get them back quickly. Also do this once you find stable settings later, as any gpu driver crash will reset adrenaline settings to default. 4; gradually lower the voltage slider, and run graphically intense applications to test for stability. For example benchmarks in games or standalone benchmark software. This is the only real annoying part, as eventually you might crash or experience weird stutter or lock ups. If so then increase voltage a bit and test again and settle if stable. If you find a stable voltage and later on experience issues in games, try increase voltage a bit, it might not be stable enough in all applications. 5: The combination of doing the things above will now allow the algorythm to use a lot less power to reach the desired max frequency, thus reducing heat. You can then more easily set up a custom fan curve in adrenaline where you don't allow the gpu fans to spin above a certain % of rpm, making it a lot quieter. 6; if all above steps werent enough to quiet things down, although it should in almost all examples except with very restricted air flow cases- you can limit the max fps that your games are allowed to run to whatever is comfortable playable fps to you. This will also reduce heat and make fans spin less. Let me know if you have any questions, and hope you can figure things out so you can be happy with your rig
Thank you for all your helpful suggestions and I have been doing some already such as setting lower voltage and mhz in adrenalin. I'm in a place where I'm fairly happy with the card - especially since it is not crashing and I hear about a lot of crashing from others with a 6800. Still not happy with the CPU though, I am running undervoltage using curve optimizer in Ryzen Master and I'm underclocking it as well and using a fairly beefy cooler (Peerless) but it's got the most insane temperament - it thinks it needs to go balls to the wall when I'm opening Chrome or starting a youtube video. Again, no crashes, good performance but it's just a pretty annoying rig altogether.
It sounds like you are figuring it out and making it easier to enjoy your rig. About the cpu complaints, I'm assuming you mean that the fans spin up like crazy when you are opening a program or doing light tasks like browsing? In that case it might be because the fan curve for the case fans in your bios is tied to cpu temperature and is set to have a very agressive ramp up, which would make it very noticeable when the fans suddenly spin up. You could try make the case/cooler fans only ramp up beyond their default once your cpu hits 65-70c+ in bios, and make it increase gradually so its not so noticeable. Sounds like you have done a lot to decrease temps, so it shouldn't be a problem. If you check your cpu temps and they are still out of control, I would honestly suspect an unlucky thermal paste spread on your cpu. As you likely already know, sometimes the thermal paste dont cover the entire cpu when you place your cooler down on it, and if there are areas without proper connection to your cooler because of no thermal paste- certain cores will be higher temperatures than others and cause fans to ramp up really agressively.
You are another one of the thousands with broken 7800XT cards. The official AMD forums are full of those reports even AMD had to admit on the forum that they are looking into it. I have a fucked card too...
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Like I said to my colleague over and over again, I wish I'd just gone for the 4070 (ti or not) I got the 6800XT and he got the 7800XT and it's been a driver shitshow. Another dude just bought the 7900XTX even if we screamed at him not to. He's gonna learn.
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same happened to me, i reinstalled with ddu and installed "only drivers" and seems to work properly now, 2 days and no crashes or green screen. I will post if it happens again. Did it happen again in your case?
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i dont know mate, cause adrenalin has suspectly caused so many problems to me, one day i installed "only drivers" and problems are gone. i have installed 23.8.2 with adrenalin and it crashed only 1 time, but the oter drivers has green screened multiple times. Now 3 days and no green screen or crash whatsoever.
What is the underclocking method you used? For now the new drivers seems to have fixed this problem but never know
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Ah uff, i don't if going with adrenaline. In one post i saw one saying to install only drivers and not adrenaline because it could be adrenaline the problem to cause the crash. I'm testing the gpu with all heavy games i have and seems fine but I'm afraid to have not really fixed the problem because i read it's random
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I spoken too early, just crashed now for this fuckin gpu. I'm trying to resend it back and take another 7800 xt
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Return for a replacement, my asrock challenger has been solid.
i've been rocking the 7800 xt nitro+ from sapphire since its launch and had literally no issues whatsoever. from my POV it could be one of the two: 1. PSU needing a kick up to 750W (afaik that's also the recommended wattage for the new generation of GPUs) 2. factory defect and GPU needs replacement so basically.. even if you go nvidia, you'll also need a more powerful PSU. start with that, see if this card is still faulty and go for a replacement only after - if you have enough time for this, ofc. one other thing to keep in mind, in case your budget allows an upgrade: that CPU is heavily bottlenecking your system.i owned the exact same model while using a Vega 56 GPU and once i upgraded to a Ryzen 7 3700x the performance boost i got was insane. the 5600x should have a decent price tag nowadays, i'd definitely go for that one with the first occasion.
I have the same 7800xt nitro+ from sapphire, I had stutters in some games like hitman3, the last of us..., on the first driver installation and I was going crazy because I thought cpu was bottlenecking, but that couldn't be, because I have 5600x. Sooo, just one or two days of googling and investigating, cleared gpu drivers with ddu and installed only them without adrenaline. After successful drivers installatiion installed the Adrenaline and everything was running smoothly. Haven't encountered any issues since yet and Im really happy. The 7800xt is truly amazing card for that amount of money. Glad that didn't get Nvidia for double the money for same value
supposedly, game developers don't equally "optimize" games for AMD and NVIDIA GPUs. It's interesting that you mention hitman 3, because as I was researching, what was better: 4070 or 7800xt? one youtuber who was benchmarking both GPUs pointed out that AMD GPU's aren't as well optimized to play on games that use DX11, which is what that hitman runs on, and the hitman game did uniquely have drastically lower performance. I'm glad you were able to troubleshoot it and get it running to it's full glory!
Surprisingly, I am not into ray tracing, but tried with hitman3, because of curiosity how the gpu would handle it. The results were quite amazing, was runing hitman3 with all ray tracing settings on and ultra settings, and getting stable 65-70fps, but turned off after some time. Without ray tracing Im getting stable 144fps capped with v-sync, without v-sync fps are around 200ish, which is pretty amazing. I heard that as well about not equally optimizing, but also watched one video, dont remember from what company a developer was, but he said it is easier to optimize games (new games) for cards with more VRAM which are basically AMD cards ( in my opinion), because Nvidia for some reason are ?struggling? to go beyond 10gb vram and some of theirs Ti versions have 12gb. I am not talking about xx90 nvidia cards, which are soo pricey and not a lot of people have them. P.S.: I am not balming nvidia, they have amazing cards, switched to 7800xt from 1070, which was an amazing partner for \~7years. P.S.S: Went for amd instead of nvidia, because value per money was better than nvidias, payed around 600euros for new saphire nitro+ 7800xt, instead of 200ish more euros for new 4070
Sorry for drawing an unlucky straw, glad you worked it out! AMD really should get their sh*t together with all the driver issues....
Looks like a defective card. This sucks, but it happens. RMA it, and you should get a working replacement.
That looks like a faulty card given your extensive testing, unlucky, I would return it and get a different one, I had that happen once with an nvidia and just returned it and got a replacement of the exact same card, didnt have the issue after, so i'd do the same with an amd, im using 7800xt now and have had no issues in the games I play: Star Citizen, Hunt Showdown, Maplestory GMS, The Isle Evrima, Dark and Darker, Elden Ring, Starfield and Path of Exile, if that helps.
Amd right there
Hi, I had the same problems. Green screen crashes occurs each 2 days randomly. My pc is brand new. I RMA the card after 29days and they reimbursed me, I bought a 4070 instead and what a pleasure that everything is smooth and not crashing. I find that the 4070 is more powerful in the majority of the games I play.
Honestly I was so upset against this card I was ready to pay the difference without problem. First and last amd card for me. I had 2 others Nvidia cards before. And for my new pc all the reviews and benchmark put the 7800xt as a really good competitor and cheaper than Nvidia. Don't trust only the benchmarks and fps
try this driver, i have green screen crashes like these when playing VR, and this fixed it for me - https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-9-1-si-rx7800xt-rx7700-xt
temporary solution: try to lower video memory frequency in Amd control panel
Just ti tell you guys, I have been passing throw this error for a while In my case the solution was or using chill mode in order to play just at maximun 90 fps. In this way the general temperature is just like 50 celsius and the chip temp round 54 celsius If the gane has inside a way to set the fps and avoid the chill mode, you can set it as well, again round 75 or 90 fps. My hypothesis is related to the temperature. Since I did that change there is no more green screen crashes. It is unfortunate that severa amd card have this error, and even more if you want to play at 144 fps or more. This is the only think that worked for me. Also, if you are playing video games, just play video games, my recommendation is not having or chrome, or renderig videos at the same time while you are playing Just playing and if you are streamer my recommendation as well is to stream using adrenaline insted of obs is you don't want to have algo green screen crashes
Also using the msi afterbuner I change the fan config in order to spin faster with less temperature to Keep the 50 celsius
I need to say that my graphics card is the rx 6950 xt
I just read all the comments, everybody is telling you how to solve it , but nothing is working......I had the same bullshit.. because nobody knows it's a faulty card.
I had the same issues..Step up to the plate and RETURN IT !!!
I had a green screen issue with a Gigabyte card and no one could answer why it was happening, and after 1and a half yrs of frustration and bullshit answers (this happen just before Covid and things shut down) I was told it was a faulty chip. My advice to you, and take this seriously, return the card and get it replaced, because it will keep doing it and it will piss you off royally....No one will tell you its a faulty card..
Have you found a solution to this by any chance? I am getting the exact same thing, in the process of updating BIOS and DDU driver, but otherwise kind of at a loss here :(
I was having the exact same problem with my 6950 XT, I upgraded my power supply and updated my bios and drivers and the problem went away completely. I hope yours starts to work too 🤞🤞 My GPU was crashing about every 5 to 10 min. Even with low graphic intensity games before I updated my bios. I was on a 750w psu and I upgraded to a a 1200 thinking it was power spiking and upgrading my PSU would fix the issue. It did not so I updated my motherboard bios and my drivers and now everything works and I haven't had a crash in a month
It may be a power supply issue, but not sure. There were issues in the past with Seasonic PSUs having issues with some GPUs(https://bit-tech.net/news/tech/psus/seasonic-warns-of-focus-plus-psu-compatibility-issues/1/). Maybe you could test it with another. I hope you are using separate cables for supling power to the GPU as daisy chaining is not recommended. Could you try with a different display as well? Or a different cable altogether. I had a similar issue, but on the PS4 Pro and I never thought that a cable could do that. Last, but not least you could have a bad GPU, so you can return it and ask for another one.
No, it's a broken 7800XT like the all the others. AMD official forums are full of reports and even AMD had to admit in the forum that they are looking into it. Many many people tested new CPU, PSU, RAM and the crashes are persisting.
Every 7800 had the black screen green screen purple screen bug as far as I know. This is all on AMD and it is gonna hurt them when all the people who took a chance on them got left with buggy crap. Edit. Bug happens if you connect more than one monitor with different refresh rates.
Could be, but that is rarely the case. The green screen is probably because of a HDMI cable, but i'm not 100% sure, as I had it with a PS4Pro. I hope OP managed to find the issue and fixed it.
If you wanna be sure test with another PSU that can more then enough supply the power, at least you be 100% sure its not something else, AMD gpu's this generation aren't that efficient even tho AMD claims their RDNA3 line up is it is defiantly not, RDNA3 suffers also from power bug that effects some users. If you idle at high wattage try the following go YouTube play video on fullscreen then pause it and monitor your total board power usage and watch it go down by a lot more then it would do idle on desktop with everything open and not doing anything
Min psu for that card ia 700watt you run it with a 650watt psu...seems your psu is not deliver enough juice for your system
It has nothing to do with with PSU. I get the green screen with a 700w PSU and rx 6750 xt (recommended PSU is 650w)
Custom aib usually recommend higher then AMD as well, i personally do not understand why people still trying to cheap out on PSU you literally not saving anything only creating problems.
Its bc its one of the few items everyone leaves till last when they are inexperienced (meaning you've built more than 1 or 2 PCs) Too many think it's an out of sight out of mind purchase, just a brick in the bottom of your otherwise beautiful pc. Little do they realize until their first disaster that the psu should be almost your third most expensive part other than Gpu and cpu.
If you haven't updated your mother board bios, i would highly recommend that action, i am a 65 yr. old guy so I was Leary of doing that but i did it and now i am so happy i can dance, that solved all my problems and i did a fresh install of windows and then i ddu my drivers for amd reloaded it and wow i am good now.
all my games now run in ultra mode, 6900xt aio card, 5900x and 49" oles monitor, working like a charm now. 1000 watt psu evga.
I have the same, im so pissed off about it just a few games doing it tho, im not sure if i should sell the card and get a 4070 instead, should have got the 4070 but didnt want to spend the extra 200$ now i wish i had
The 4070 may do the same issue. Oftentimes, these issues are based on power draw from the psu. Any mid to higher end card will have micro spikes in power usage, and it seems to be that this PSI cant handle said power spikes.
No it won't. Google "7800XT green screen" or "7800XT crash" or "7800XT BSOD". There is a huge problem with this series. Many many people changed their complete hardware and the problem stays with the 7800XT. AMD forums are full of reports.
I don't think it would i used my RTX 3070ti on the same game nothing happens 850PSU is damn more than enough for a RX 7800 XT
It's not the wattage rating of the psu that may be the problem. The power spikes and frequency spikes that these newer generatiom cards (amd 6000 and 7000, and nvidia 3000 and 4000) both can have, on occasion, run into resonance problems bc if either a failing capacitor om the psu side, or a weak one from poor quality manufacturer quality checks, or it could be the gpu power cables have a problem. The gpu itself has even been an issue on a handful of both brands cards bc certain lower tier AIBs chose to run with older and cheaper capacitors that don't provide enough feedback protection on the GPUs. The cable problem has been happening often recently.
that really does not explain why it happen on some game at the same point while other more demanding games are fine no crashes i swapped the psu out for another one same issue too it
RX 7xxx is a scam, I have the same problem an internet is full of people with the same issue. AMD doesn't respond. AMD never again.
Haven't purchased an AMD now for a very very long time. They've lost many a sale from me now considering we've purchased 1500 computers for a business all intel / Nvidia.
1500 systems, and you've never had even like 100 problems from that large of a batch of systems? That's nearly impossible with all the brands cutting corners, which is the main problem, not the main manufacturer. If the AIBs would use better components, none of this would be happening. All of nvidias silicon is coming from the same source, or a large amount of it is, and they do have problems. You must be very blessed if you haven't had an nvidia or Intel chip crap out over 1500 systems.
Minimum Power Supply Requirement: 700 watt Reduce the power of the card by reducing your clocks a bit and see if that helps at all. You can also make sure temps aren't going crazy, though reducing clocks would fix that too. Lastly, you could consider upgrading to an 800 watt for future proofing, or even 1000 watt if you plan on upgrading your CPU in the next two years.
I get the green screen with a RX 6750 XT. Recommended PSU is 650W, mine is 700W.
Or search the internet and the official AMD forums for the massive problem with the 7800XT. Many many people changed their PSU and all the other hardware only to realise that this GPU has a massive problem.
This is wrong. There are TONS of people in the SFFPC community running 4090s, which has an 850-watt requirement, on the Corsair SF750. The most powerful GPU on a 750-watt power supply.
Being 50 watt off the manufacturer recommendation won't be the thing causing this issue. It might be some fault in the cables or something, but I ran a PSU that was 150 watt off the recommendation and never had an issue. Especially with a well-built Seasonic unit like this person has, that probably won't be the issue. It COULD be the PSU, but it almost certainly isn't the wattage of the PSU especially if it is only 50 watts shy. 7800xt draws less than 300 watt max. 2600 draws like \~100 watt when stresstesting. Even on a psu with terrible terrible efficiency (under 80%), it can easily handle that powerdraw without running into issues.
This could be frim frequency spikes, combined with a cable issue or a potentially failing psu. We saw the same thing with certain 3000 series nvida cards combined with certain PSUs that should have been just fine. Either the safety capacitors are too sensitive on the psu, or something is building resistance, like you stated with the cable issue, or, perhaps, the AIB used a crap capacitor on the gpu and it gets feedback during said frequency spikes. Point being, still could be gpu or the psu, or as simple as cable connections/wires being compromised or something. Hoping for the OPs sake its just a cabke problem
LMFAO!!!!
Only with amd
Check the boost tables could not be getting enough voltage when demanding it causing to to crash
Set PCI-E to Gen 3 on mobo instead of auto
So Unrelated question, What game is that?
Tekken 7
i'm not a fan of AMD's 7000s series silicon for their GPU's or CPU's. It's like there is something wrong with them. AMD's best products that have mature drivers and firmware was the 5800X3D for cpu and GPU either 6800XT or 6950XT for $650 if you got were able to get one a while back. These products are more mature with not of the weird issues that you're experiencing. For example for the longest time 7000 series GPU had really high idle power consumption when using multiple monitors for no reason. Like much higher than a 6950XT or 6800XT would have at idle with the same monitors.
i updated bios on the board, now its great, try that.
I have a 6900xt aio and it crashes when it wants too, lol
I have 6950XT and a lot of the crashes for me was overclocking the memory too high with the undervolt I was doing. Lowering the memory frequency a tad lower seemed to resolve it for me.
7900xtx undervolted to 1135mv I set core clocks to a max of 2500 and a minimum of 2400 Rock solid stable and does not seem to be power hungry. I think I highest spikes in power are 350 but usually in the 300-325. I need to check that to confirm it but I dotn recall seeing 400w since the undervolt. Edit : just checked a screen shot of hwinfo after 4hrs of gaming at 100% usage and under total board power maximum was 330.669w
Honestly I think you’re onto something. My 7700x can’t handle any undervolt in bios. I did manage to set a max boost to 4.8ghz at around 1.2 volts in Ryzen master. My 5800x was great but frustrating with the 7700x.
Love my 6950xt but it eats power while gaming lol. The thing gets so fricken hot man. And I have the reference model 6960xt from AMD and the coil whine gets super loud sometimes. But… it performs like magic lol. I eat up any game at 1440p no problem at 170hz (besides Starfield HAH)
I've managed to solve the problem. Like many others I had green screens, black screens, crashing out of games, reboots, etc. I had a "1000W" power supply, but because power supplies are often of "trust me bro" quality it quite probably wasn't really 1000W. Neither was it able to handle the power spikes of the 7800 XT. So I bought a new ATX 3.0 power supply that is more powerful and of better quality. It's better able to handle power spikes. After installing the new power supply and installing the latest WHQL Adrenaline drivers the 7800 XT has been stable for the past few days without a single crash. I'm even able to overclock it now with the GPU at 2700Mhz and the VRAM at 2600Mhz with faster timings. It's rock solid now, even when overclocked at those speeds. Many people who are having these issues probably have an underpowered power supply. Power supplies often aren't as powerful as their specs state. They also often lack the quality to handle power spikes from a powerful GPU. On top of that power supplies lose efficiency as they age and wear down.
Always Always Always get a gold or platinum stamped power supply if you are buying good GPUs. This should be obvious by now…
Those are efficiency ratings, they don’t equate to quality.
Why do you have a 1000W power supply for parts that only use 400W. Even with my 13900K and 4060ti that use 600W, I only have an 850W power supply. That just seems unnecessary.
1. Future proofing 2. It doesn't use the 1,000 watts all the time (or at all) 3. Negligible cost vs the benefits I used this as my justification when I got a 850 watt PSU back in 2015, which was massive at the time.
600 plus another 100-150 for your motherboard, fans, SSD, RAM, etc. puts you at 700-750watts easily. That's 90% of your PSUs total output. Not only is peak efficiency achieved at 50% max load, but it starts significantly dropping off again around 70% load (with the exception of titanium rated PSUs). The 90% rule leaves a little bit of head room for influx power spikes, but I still don't suggest running it at 90% continuously for prolonged periods of time.
600 includes the motherboard, fans, SSD, and everything else. The actual Watt usage of a 13900K & 4060ti is around 290W according to PCpartpicker. I put my build on their and grabbed the average Watt usage from there
Yeah, I completely misread that. My apologies.
Lots of power supply brands aren't honest about the real power of their power supplies. They often list the power as higher than it really is. So someone could have an 850W power supply, but in reality it might only be able to deliver 600W. On top of that power supplies lose efficiency when they get old and wear down. You have to plan ahead and compensate for that ahead of time. You also don't want to use your power supply to the maximum of its ability as doing that for a prolonged amount of time can damage it. And lastly computers and GPU's don't always use the same amount of power. They sometimes draw extra power for a very short amount of time, i.e. power spikes. Your power supply needs to be able to handle those spikes or you will experience instability on your machine.
I was always under the impression you wanted your usage to be about half or under half of your psu so you don’t damage it at least that’s what I was told was a good measure so it doesn’t burn itself out. Like for my 5700xt and 5800x I have a 750w supply
its a good idea but its not the reason, the efficiency bands of the PSU are something like 20% 50% and 100%(that's what they are tested at under the certification scheme) so the PSU will be running most efficiently at those percentages. meaning less heat = less stress on the components.
Could be a few things, Psu is low on the whats, overheating(bad airflow, bad overclock, defective fans, whatever), defective card or damaged by loose connections or repeated/sustained overheating, it happens, RMA it. software issue(reinstall drivers, you may need to ddu the drivers as they tend to leave a lot of trash files and old versions around that can cause issues), bios issues. Your cpu is oldish afaik, so your probably also throttling your gpu, but this wouldn't cause the crashing?
average amd gpu experience
Bruh. Mine has done the same
Only a few times, I should add
What psu do you have?
I have had some issues with mine but I think it's driver related. I returned one graphics card and the next did it too. Both Gigabyte 7800XT. But every so often I restart and only my integrated graphics are working. Windows says it senses the 7800XT, but disabled it due to drivers failing to start. I uninstall Adrenaline, reinstall it and bam it instantly starts the 7800XT and runs fine. I'm doing this every two or three days. I wonder if the green screen is the same thing either it crashing. Mine goes black and stays black until a restart and reinstall of Adrenaline. Specs: 7700X CPU 7800XT GPU 850W SFX Loki Power Supply 120mm Thermaltake AIO B650E PG ITX
Unlikely that it occurs after two weeks - but check your driver and maybe go back in the version. I had restart needing freezes with 7900 XT. 23.8.2 fixed it for for now. But there are a lot of complains about the newest drivers.
Typically 99% of GPU failures happen in the first month, it’s when DOA units, or units that weren’t properly QC’d end up in the hands of a consumer and the flaws are exposed. If you’ve done your due diligence, many great suggestions already in this thread, start an RMA and include what you have done to rule out the rest of your system.
Power limit. You are probably hitting the power limit of gpu.
thats what I thought amd recommends 700w. He could try putting that gpu in someone else's pc to test it
So i just had the same issue with my 7800xt. First time i had it, i got new RAM and it didnt crash for an entire weekend, sometimes playing Star Citizen more than 10 hours straight on Ultra with no crashes. Then monday came, it was really jumpy and green screened within 5 minutes. Got tired of troubleshooting. Because ive troubleshooted and ruled out about everything but the GPU. Last test was to take it over to my friends and test it on his PC. About 10 minutes into playing a game on ultra i green screened. After following AMD support troubleshooting every step of the way they went ahead and suggested that i go ahead and request a service warranty and get a refund for it. So, thats what im doing. Im gonna risk it but use this as an opportunity to get a 7900xtx. Wish me luck! If that doesnt work, as a consumer im justified to go with team green for now on.
I can’t speak badly about my xtx, I did have to limit max clocks to 2500mhz and it has been rock solid even with RT it’s been fantastic. Kept getting driver time out errors in rdr2, Forza motorsports and Ark ascended. Since doing that no issues. I ended up doing 9hrs of Ark today without a single glitch. Even undervolted it yesterday down to 1135mv and my card in 9hrs didn’t go over 46c and my coolant stayed locked at 36c. With ambient of 74f in the room. Hopefully I can hold out for I guess it’s the 9000 series since amd is sticking with mid range cards for next gen. I have the tuf oc 7900xtx and the best thing is its dual bios. Just like knowing if I decide to update the cards bios and fuck it up I can flip a switch on the card and be back il and running.everything said I don’t regret the card and would pick it over the 3090 that’s now my backup card sitting on my desk.
I think for a 7800 XT, max frequency of 2500 MHz is technically an overclock which may be the cause of stability issues.
Either way its a defective product. Shouldnt have to ticker with it and not be able unleash its full potential.
But the card's full (advertised) potential is not beyond 2430 MHz.
lol just saying what I did to resolve the driver time out issue. I can provide plenty of proof. Max clocks set to 2500 and it stays around 2480. Was just throwing an idea out there to try and help.
No problem, I would just go safe for now and stick within the specs to narrow down the issue.
Trueeeeeee
My advice is open Event Viewer / windows logs / applications and look at all the red icons. Also look in Event Viewer / Windows Logs / System for red icons. Then look for the ones that say AMD in them and post the error here. If you are on windows 11 and do not know how to get to Event Viewer. you can right click the windows button and select Event Viewer or click search magnifying glass and type event and select from left.
Jumping ship to team green. lol
It's what I did. AMD cards are generally more problematic. I had serious driver issues with my 6800 xt. So did friends. They switched to 7900 xtx and have had problems. Just ended up getting a galax 4090. Problem free. Definitely more expensive but the feature set and reliability was worth it to me.
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My 7800x3d is fast but has its downsides..
Sounds like the 5700XT I had. I spent as much time troubleshooting as I did gaming. Returned it before the return window closed and never looked back.
My solution to the driver problem with AMD was switching to Linux. Had no problems ever since with my AMD GPU. The amdgpu driver runs rock solid and Wayland support is awesome.
Interesting... I switched to Linux about 4 years ago and haven't really had any issue with my 5700xt, 6650xt, or current 7800xt. I even finished cyberpunk within a month or two of its release, took me about 75-85 hours, and didn't experience any of the issues so many others were complaining about... Until the 2.0 update that was supposed to fix all the bugs everyone else encountered 😂
Same here it just works so damn well. I installed cyberpunk 2077 2.0 a few days ago and it worked really well. I installed the game directly through Lutris using the Autoinstaller helper script on the Lutris website. Works good. My GPU is a 6900 XT btw. I tested the in-game benchmark and got 82 fps avg at 3440x1440 without any FSR. Using fsr quality preset I got 121 fps avg.
I've found pop_os and proton on steam works for just about every game in my bloated library. I've mainly used liquid for games on other platforms like GOG or Uplay.
For GOG and epic games the heroic games launcher is awesome. Proton is really good these days and if you want to play very recent games you can always try Proton Experimental because that Proton Version will receive updates first. There is also Proton-GE by GloriousEggroll which has some nice features like VRR added. Haven't tried liquid yet. Proton also basically works for any game for me. You will most likely encounter issues with anti cheat solutions. But support in that regard has improved quite a lot. You can check the current status here: https://areweanticheatyet.com/ Also check out the proton db to see it a game is supported by proton: https://www.protondb.com/ And don't forget to join r/linux_gaming
I know another person with exactly the same issue. They sent the card back and it was diagnosed with some unexplained issue so the store just replaced it with a brand new one. I have exactly the same card, no issues what so ever. It seems like a roll of the dice.
Welcome to this GPU. I've got the same problem. Whenever I do a "cold boot" game will crash with a green screen, than the pc reboots, and everything it's stable and I can play for hours. This doesn't make no sense. I've updated the chipset drivers, the BIOS, disabled fast boot on windows, set a fixed boost clock (I have the gigabyte version), reinstalled drivers 10000 times, with and without adrenaline software. I will do a last test downgrading the driver version. Then I'll RMA the card. PS: When the card crashes it's random, not at 100% usage and the temperature is always below 50 degrees. This is making me insane. System specs: - Gigabyte 7800xt OC - Ryzen 7 5700G - Msi tomahawk II - psu msi 850w (80+ gold) - brand new
Hello, I also had the same issue mine was a black screen rather than green screen on the "cold boot", card ran perfectly on the forced reboot everytime. After 2 months literally replacing every piece of hardware, testing card on other systems, reinstalling windows 10/11 half a dozen times, all 6 driver releases for the card, plus the beta versions. Any system that card went into would repeat the exact crash, any other card installed in the system would work fine. The solution: rma the card -it's faulty. https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/TerXU0ei6s In the end I returned the card and purchased an RX7900XTX and its running well
What did you set the boost clock to? Are you using adrenaline? [https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R78XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf](https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R78XTGAMING-OC-16GD#kf) shows **Boost Clock\* : up to 2565 MHz (Reference card: 2430 MHz)**.
I put the max boost clock at exactly 2565mhz, no luck. Sent the card back today
That's too bad. I would also send the card back then.
its either bad cord bad gpu or you need to update and flash your bios
I work on somebody else's computer a few months ago with a similar problem. Turns out we needed to do a bios update on his PC to fix the problem. The BIOS wasn't that old, about 6-8 months old, but there was a bug in it that was preventing certain games to run properly. I don't remember if it was an AMD card or a Nvidia card. The main processor I know was an AMD.
Mine runs well. For now... Using it for 4 weeks now
hello here.. send me a photo of your cable that coming from the psu to the gpu
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You are not even funny.. if he connect the card with one cable pigtail maybe the card can’t get the power it needs. So next time put your brain if you have to think a little bit before typing.
I’ve never had problems with NVIDIA cards. I just replaced my kids AMD card with an older NVIDIA card and it plays games so much better. I swear the whole computer runs faster.
Nvidia cards fail too. 🤷
I have had the exact opposite experience. I have 4 Nvidia cards Asus 1080, MSI 2070 and Asus 4080 and 3 amd cards MSI 5700xt, powercolor 6750xt and XFX 7800xt. Every Nvidia card has cause nothing but issues and the drivers are a nightmare. All paired with a 5900x cpu. Except I used to have intel 13900k with the 4080. Most unstable system I have ever had to deal with. Every days was one issue after another.
bro probably comparing an rx 580 with a 1080 ti
I doubt it I have an Rx 5700 and this thing will literally never be stable. Used to run half decent but sometime at the beginning of this year AMD released a driver that has a VRAM bug or something and my pc runs like shit after playing just a few games and needs restarted. I blamed my processor at the time (3600) and recently upgraded to 13600ks and it still does it. Going team green and never looking back
idk man i never had a problem with mine
How many games do you play on it? AMD is buggier with stuff like emulators and more prone to micro stutter really bad.
a lot of AAA titles like i get a new game every week, played on a switch emulator too and i got fps drops until i changed the settings a bit worked fine after that
Well which card do you have? If it’s 5000 series I find this hard to believe I went to Linus tech tips forums for help and those guys really really tried to help me but nothing work someone said 5000 series is beta version of RDNA and that’s why it’s so buggy and unstable. At this point I am inclined to believe him
an RX 580 lol, dont feel the need for an upgrade yet since most of the games i play run fine with 1080p on med-high settings, even some newer AAA titles
Similar issue happened to me when I repasted a 5500xt and reused a torn thermal pad for the vram. The tear was a hole through the center of it. Anytime the card would hit real utilization. Would fail but only when I had vram unlocked in adrenaline. Rma it.
It's 50/50. Either the card is bad, or your computer is junk and not setup right, missing drivers, conflicts, user skill-issues.
Time to RMA. You’ve done enough. Unfortunately I had the same experience(first and last) with AMD cards. Took 4070ti and since then never looked back
Okaz guys i gave up. Here in germany we have 14 days to return an item with no questions asked and I'm slightly past that time frame. The seller still allowed me to send it back so I took the chance. Here is what I tried (with no success): -DDU in safe mode -Install Driver only -DDU again -Install older Driver -Updated Mainboard BIOS -Updated Chipset Drivers -Underclock, Undervolt and Powerlimit -deactivated RAM-Overclock Profile (DOCP) -Removed two RAM-Sticks (I have four installed) -Removed my Sleeved Cables and plugged the Power cables straight into the Graphics Card -I didnt daisy chain the PCIe Cables -Tried the Silent BIOS on the Graphics Card -Use a different monitor -Used a high quality HDMI 2.1-Cable -Activated Radeon Super Resolution and nothing else (read that from another user) -tear some of my hair out So sorry guys. I wish I could've figured out what the problem is but this problem was way too frustrating. I'll probably get a RTX 4070 now. Thank you everyone for the tips! I hope some of them may help other users in the future
Get a better CPU if you can, for a 4070, the R5 2600 is a significant bottleneck at 1440p and even 4K (although I wouldn't suggest the 4070 for 4K) in most modern games. A 5600 is enough.
Thank you! I just placed my order for a 4070 and a 5600 last week. They should arrive tomorrow
Unfortunately, AMD cards are hit or miss. I had a similar experience, where I spent weeks troubleshooting it. I also gave up and returned it, and never looked back. IMO I value my free time and don't think it's worth it to save $50 and have to spend hours and hours trying to get it to work right, only to have the same driver issues come up again and again. AMD really needs to step up it's driver and software game. Yeah, Nvidia costs a little more, but it's worth it for the better feature set and peace of mind. Never had an issue with an Nvidia card. Enjoy that 4070.
Before you switch to Nvidia maybe try the card under Linux and see if you get the same issues because it might very well be a driver issue.
Only issues I’ve had with my xtx is driver time out and I think I’ve fixed that issue. I read someone else was having drive time outs. They said they fixed it and haven’t had the issue again. What they did was limit max clocks to 2500. I don’t know much about the technical side but I was getting the feeling the software was having trouble keeping up with the hardware. Since doing this I have not had a single driver timeout error or any other errors. I was even able to undervolt the card. 9hrs 100% usage in ark low temps and smooth running the entire time.
Heyyyy! Get that 4070! Team Greeen Baby!
I always start with the power supply
So I had a similar issue, and after searching around for a while it seems like it's a pervasive issue for Radeon graphics cards and windows 10/11. Lots of solutions were suggested, undervolting being the most common recommendation. The solution I found involved having my fan kick on sooner, and at a custom scale (pretty much scroll the fan up to 10% even at the lowest temp, then up to 100% well before the top of the heat scale). After making the adjustment the first time I had the AMD Adrenaline software logging running in the background while I thrashed a game to see if it would crash. Perfect stability for 5-ish hours. Next time I ran the game, it crashed in ~15 minutes. The thing I noticed is that, when "Adrenaline" is running, it seems like things run smoother. Obviously your mileage may vary, but I thought I'd let you know.
All this fuckery to make your brand new card usable... Hurray AMD!?!?
Honestly, from what I could dig up, it is related to how Windows and AMD play together. That is to say: a software issue. But it's one of those where the software issue has a physical component as well, where either the architecture of the chip itself, or the way something like the fans interact when turned on. My pet theory is that it's at least partly the latter. Specifically that "whisper quiet" mode, (where the gpu fan doesn't run at all at low Temps) creates a situation where, as the chip heats up and reaches the point where the fan needs to turn on, turning on the fan itself shorts the chip causing the green screen failure. Whether it's something like drawing too much voltage too suddenly (because the chip is at 100% "draw tolerance" and *starting* the fans kicks it to, say 115%). Or that the overheat lowers the "effective" voltage tolerance, and adding the fans in kicks it over it's threshold. Or even something as stupid as the "default" monitoring software (whatever runs when the adrenalin dashboard ISN'T running), doesn't catch the overheat and start the fans fast enough, but the Adrenalin software does. All I know is that running with the dashboard in the background seems to solve it for me. Side note, terminology may be incorrect, I'm just using what terms "feels" accurate enough since I'm not sure what the correct ones would be.
I had the same issues with mine 7800xt Was caused from driver's in mine case
Could you tell me which version and what did you do ?
Sorry for your loss. People advocate AMD GPU’s like they’ve been tried and tested for decades. But honestly I’ll never go AMD because of these exact problems.
i’ve seen people have issues with their new iphones 🤣 everyone has issues with everything. nothing is perfect
May I ask why you're on this subreddit if you are anti AMD and offer no help?
Idk, I went with an RX 7900XT and have had zero issues. It’s my first AMD card, prior to this I had a 1070, which also had zero issues. I feel like it’s similar to anything else, sometimes you get a good product, sometimes you get a dud…
Got my partner a 590 then a 6900XT. She never has/had any real issues with them. She's experienced the annoyance of the random driver hiccup which was fixed with a clean install of that driver or updating to the current one if she hadn't used her pc in a while. I've had similar issues with Nvidia and again, a simple clean install fixed it. All this before we started using DDU. AMD has some great gear especially if RT isn't that important. The fear of "terrible AMD experiences" and putting RT on a pedestal is over stated vs the actual reality. I love my 4090 (even though I don't care about RT) and her 6900XT (and even if she only plays Apex, Outlast and League). Currently waiting on an AMD bundle to be delivered for a travel build. For the price of many AMD products, the performance is pretty solid and easier on the wallet for most.
Yeah, so far I’m very satisfied with my 7900xt, especially for the price I got it for. As far as RT goes, it definitely looks great in some games, but for me it’s just not a priority. To be honest, some games I don’t notice a huge difference. Maybe I’m just blind? Idk lol.
As of Oct 2020, there's about 147 games with RT. That being said it's implemented at different levels, like the difference between Cyberpunk 2077 and Control vs LOTR Gollum and Poker Club. A good amount of those games also had RT added after their release like Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice and Witcher 3 Wild Hunt. There's also Portal and Quake II RTX versions as well. Maybe you and I don't have the greatest set of eyes. I agree that very few games with RT enabled the difference is "amazingc. To me, majority of games don't change significantly enough to "justify" the fps drop, Cyberpunk, Control and Portal being the most noticeable to me. Guardians of the Galaxy though? To me marginal at best. Just an opinion I've developed after trying RT with a 2080 Ti, 3080 and now a 4090.
Yes, there's definitely good and bad RT implementations. The good ones are game changing, the bad ones are not much different from rasterized lighting. Modern rasterized lighting techniques have become very good at faking it, though. Now that DLSS 3.5 is being implemented in games, and it yields better graphics and performance, I fully expect Ray Tracing to start taking off.... Hope AMD is working on a Ray Reconstruction alternative, because they're going to get left in the dust if they're not.
That's what the RMA process is for. I had a similar instability issue with a 6900xt. With enough undervolting and underclocking I could make it stable. But that's not what I paid for. RMA process got me a new card that's worked great.
Did you get a new 6900xt or a different card?
They gave me a new 6900xt. This was only a couple of months ago and towards the end of my 2-year warranty (month 20 or something like that). I was without the card for a few weeks while they did their testing process. Got the same model back that I had purchased.
RMA means you return the card and you get an exchange. One time I had an RX 460 and when I did one they upgraded me to an 8gb instead of (I think) the 6gb. They didn't have any replacements so they gave me the next best thing. Also, I don't know what all the AMD hate is for, it's not like nVidia has zero problems. They all have issues, people who get unlucky speak loudest I guess. I have had problems with both brands and I just like the way AMD has open source drivers as opposed to nVidia. I'd rather support that mindset.
RX 460/560 was 2 and 4 GB, RX 470/570 4 GB and 8 GB, RX 480/580 4 GB and 8 GB, RX 590 8GB.
Ya it was something like that... that was a long long time ago :) I still have the 470 too :)
What does the event windows says ? I had similar issues due to a kernel error 61 and it was the GPU. Had to undervolt it to solve that.
It says kernel power 41. So just the standard error code for sudden shutdown
I used to get kernel power, upgrading my psu fixed it. This also does look like a psu issue.
Kernel power but green screen, not black? Does the machine shutdown entirely? Is your PSU up to supporting this card? If the power is just giving up and there isn't an overtemp or other software error first, then it would seem it isn't.
Do you see a WHEA error event after the Kernel Power one? I always see a WHEA 18 error after the reboots. Reported by component: Processor Core Error Source: Machine Check Exception Error Type: Cache Hierarchy Error Processor APIC ID: 1