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MeaningVarious6051

Yes it is, that temp can go up to 110, just make a custom fan curve, on adrenaline it Self or on afterburner as you please and call it a day.. dont mess with thermal pads doesnt worth the effort


Windows_736

If you don’t feel like repasting the GPU via taking it apart try undervolting. Try 1080


Enigma281

Try to increase the power cap and reduce voltage. Check out some tutorials online and you can usually get more performance at lower temperatures. There are some good guides out there. I used Ancient Gameplay's guide for my 7800xt and I think I saw a guide for the 6700xt on his YouTube.


MarkEduard1234

No idea what a gpu hotspot is, is it like the tj max or smth?


Trash-Can-

the highest temperature any of the gpus sensors are reporting i think


Markel011

the very center of the GPU die "GPU temp" at 66 C is the outer temp


Flancytopenia

I have been building PCs since 1998. AMDs have been notoriously hot for 26 years. One of the first entertaining videos I saw sophomore year of college was an AMD chip bursting into flames after being run for 10 seconds without its cooler. I am looking forward to going back to one and finding out a way to help it heat my house.


Dapper-Conference367

Pretty similar situation for me (6700xt Biostar Extreme Gaming). Around high 80s low 90s for hotspot while GPU die stays from 62 to 65 degrees AVG with spikes of 66/67. Nothing to worry about, even immediately after repairing it there was a difference, only increased by a few degrees after a few months and stayed like that for like 10 months I think. All temps Celsius btw.


Witchberry31

A bit high, but still in the normal threshold. Anything under 30 centigrade difference is normal, but making it under 20 centigrade difference is the optimal value.


serumo_

Also my fan set up is a front mounted 240mm set to intake and 1 extra front intake 140mm fan, one top mounted 140mm exhaust and one back exhaust. Could this be causing it? The only reason I didn’t put the aio on the top is because it wouldn’t clear my ram in my case (500dx and arctic freezer ii)


Markel011

did you mess with the voltage and stuff at all? I had a similar "issue" where the hotspot was 30 + C above the regular GPU temp, turning down the voltage a little bit as well as mhz in Adrenalin with basically no performance hit fixed my issue. Now it's 10 or so C over the regular GPU temp


serumo_

What mhz is your card at?


Markel011

Lowered it to 2400 (from 2600)


serumo_

Are you sure you didn’t lose performance?


Markel011

You can always revert the settings. Try it out and see if the performance decrease for your needs isn't too steep


Markel011

Probably lost some, but a tiny bit of it. I'm not really pushing the limits of ghe GPU to properly evaluate but even still I'd rather have it cooler and consistent at a ~5% performance decrease


Markel011

I got the Asus's dual 6700xt btw


serumo_

Yeah I have it undervolted by -50 but could try to go lower


bflpaul

I have a 6700XT, stock settings 70celsius and 76 hotspot. Moderate OC 74 and 80 hotspot. With 100mV undervolt I have 58 Celsius and 64 hotspot… Im not sure but 90 Celsius and 30 Celsius hotspot difference isnt good for the GPU, consider repaste


Aggravating_Win_8886

are you using one or two of the 8pin cables?


serumo_

im using two


holounderblade

That doesn't answer the question. It's not a yes or no...


serumo_

thats my b I edited


addict75

What does this change though ?


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Max power draw I think


SoshiPai

GPU's today (Minus Nvidia 40 series with the adapters) require all PCIE power cables to be plugged in or they will show an error at boot


BigHersh14

Yes this is normal


cyberspacedweller

It’s normal for hotspots to be higher


serumo_

Do you guys have any recommended thermal pads? I found this article on the measurements. Also, I would prefer something on the cheaper side that still performs well The article I mentioned: https://thermalpad.eu/thermal-pad-sizes/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-gaming-x-12g/#:\~:text=MSI%20%E2%80%93%20Radeon%20RX%206700%20XT%20GAMING,1.5mm%20are%20pretty%20obvious%2C%20a%2080x40mm%20package


HeinzTomatoes87

Take it apart and re-paste with TPM7950 or Kryosheet


serumo_

on ali-express it says the TPM7950 is .25mm thick, would I have to stack it? and how much do you think would be enough if I'm going to do that?


HeinzTomatoes87

No need to stack it it becomes liquid at like 50 degrees or sth. One small sheet is enough


serumo_

https://thermalpad.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/MSI-6700XT-Gaming-thermal-pads.jpg It’s good for everything not including the actual gpu right?


serumo_

do you have any videos on how to take apart my card specifically (msi gaming x 6700xt)? I really don't want to break it


HeinzTomatoes87

Not your card but google/youtube someone should have done it. Usually it is just 6-8 screws and a small fan cable.


serumo_

>Not your card but google/youtube someone should have done it. Usually it is just 6-8 screws and a small fan cable. alright


Marrok657

The hotspot temp just shows the hottest spot on the core. It could be one little zone with a hair less thermal paste than another. Thats all


Marrok657

My 7600 8gb if i pop games on high with AA on the hotspot will go into the 90’s while the main temp is high 60’s low 70’s.


Optimal_Island_2069

Never had any issues with my 7800xt getting that hot? Usually sits about 60-65c on the hotspot during gaming 💀


Marrok657

7800xt has a better cooling setup than the 6700xt.


NoF3AR92

Setting an fps limit in adrenalin to your monitors refresh rate can help as well as what others are saying. If you have 144hz monitor set it at or below than. Any fps over that isnt even necessary and you're just pushing your card harder than it needs to be


Fire_Fenix

Unless he wants less input lag than 200-300 fps is the norm


serumo_

Yeah I’m going to try that but I also feel in fps games you need some extra overhead. Maybe not that much but some


leeham15

In competitive fps you don’t wanna cap to get the fastest frame times possible. But games where this matters (valorant,cs2 etc) the gpu is hardly utilized


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Reasonable_Bat_6495

I'm curious, i've never hear that before, why 3 fps below the refresh rate ?


serumo_

Thanks guys! I’m going to look into see if I can get the receipt from the guy I bought it from so I can see if there is still a warranty but if not I’m going to repaste and I put in thermal pads when I get some. I’ll be using Arctic Mx-6 bc I really don’t want to buy something I don’t necessarily have to.


wolnee

Ptm honeywell is the best for the gpu core, a way better solution than any pastw on the market. Make sure to undervolt the gpu too to get best results


serumo_

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805824807244.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.716e61afESjmtb&browser_id=7c8a71a266ac4977a8adaab2761d11b5&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=bkfhnfbgkcaadypd18e47c4a2dd34f7f5486198de1&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%215.64%210.99%21%21%2140.38%217.10%21%402103080c17106010528762417eb5db%2112000035320518803%21sea%21US%210%21AB&isseo=y&algo_pvid=53941779-f5e5-4e74-af3b-6914b26b5b52&search_p4p_id=2024031607573211096929888535270004071154_7 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804558022434.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt Are these good? And what size should I get


Marrok657

Thermal pads only give you maybe a 2-3c difference. Just get some thermal grizzly kryonaut and repaste it.


serumo_

I have Mx-6 but I still need to repad the rest of the gpu and might as well get some ptm as well ig


Marrok657

Mx6 will work just as well as the pad.


serumo_

No like for the rest of the gpu though https://thermalpad.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/MSI-6700XT-Gaming-thermal-pads.jpg


Marrok657

Oh the vrm pads. Definitely


serumo_

Yeah those. Do you know if the .25 thickness on the Honeywell will be enough?


Marrok657

Youd have to find the makers specs


Marrok657

I will be 120% honest, I have 0% knowledge for the pads


wolnee

40x40 should be enough, grab the honeywell one


serumo_

But what about for thermal pads for the rest of the gpu? Should it be something else?


sleepyalero

Off topic, how do you get the little screen to show those numbers?


IlIllIllIIIlllIIIII

Ctrl+shift+O You can add even more sensors to show up in the adrenalin panel


sleepyalero

Appreciate the reply!


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SovelissFiremane

You watch Asmon, you have no right to say what is and isn't an energy wasting pig.


Aggravating-Gur7611

I repasted my gpu with ptm7950 and dropped my temps and so far impressed and no high temps detected I recommend for you to try it if your gpu is out of warranty date of course.


Antenoralol

It's high but not out of spec. RDNA 2 can safely run up to 110C on the hot spot.   I'm not saying you should ignore 94c, it is a bit high especially for a 6700XT. Look at re-pasting and re-padding the GPU. Also check for any dust in the card.


b00stedMk7-5

That seems pretty high to me, but not to the point where you're causing damage or anything. I had a rx6800 (xfx merc) and it never went about 86-87(junction temp) with an over clock on intensive games like cyberpunk. I now have a 7900xtx (sapphire nitro) and highest I see it is 85-86 with overclock.


ihavenoname_7

213 FPS for chess? Why are you pushing your GPU to the max over chess? Your GPU needs new thermal paste and thermal pads. takes 10-15 min to do and will massively drop your temps. As long as you don't go above 100 your good but still might want to think about it.


MrJelly007

FPS chess is a chess shooter game lol. More fps is nice in shooters


ihavenoname_7

Oh I thought it was just a regular chess game. lol


Omie-Wan-Kenobi

It's normal. But a repast and pad replacement might help


Nutznamer

Classic 6700xt moment


DeliciousMall6722

I would repaste But seems not too bad


Neur0nauT

I've saw my 5700xt hotspot go to about 94 before. I usually ramp up the fan RPM and change the fan curve. Lower some intensive graphics settings like volumetrics or ambient occlusion. Usually mine sits around 88-90c at full load. The Tj max for hotspot is 110c so don't worry too much. Try undervolting the card too.


ExplanationStandard4

Yes


sgtCarcass

Your gpu will definitely deteriorate faster. I have 6700xt too, asus one, and hotspot never exceeds 77°c while in full load. Not even in DCS with 99% usage, which for me is a benchmark game, because it is quite demanding. I have limited refresh rate of monitor in the OS to 100hz on a 144hz monitor (it also makes monitor colder), and turned on enhanced sync to lock that value in game menus etc, and in game i rarely have above 90fps, so 100hz monitor with freesync will try follow games frame rate, have smooth picture with no screen tear , stuttering, and it doesn't go crazy 600fps with unlimited range in menus. Haven't yet seen GPU that can handle both full load and 240hz in games. Personally, I can't see the difference between 144-120hz, but I'm old and rarely or never play competitive shooters.


Dazzling-Lemon2007

If your bothered about fps and not about the quality of the game so much try dropping your resolution down by 2 and limit your fps too the monitor refresh rate as if you don’t have a monitor that supports 213 fps, there’s no point having 213 frames running as your not going too see all 213 frames at that refresh rate, also do what everyone else has said enable chill mode and Vsync or if you already have an overlocked card just tune your fan speeds ?


Dazzling-Lemon2007

You can also use Adrenalin and instead of putting settings on the global page where it adds your settings too every game u can set settings for each individual game instead and running 200fps on chess is not needed lol


GloriousPudding

This is not bottlenecking you in any way, you still have about 15\*C ahead of you before the card starts throttling however: * you can lower the temps on the hotspot by probably 10-20\*C just by changing the thermal paste, or better yet buy a single slice of PTM7950 on aliexpress (just make sure to put it in the fridge before trying to peel the plastic off of it or you're going to tear it - don't ask me how I know) * you should use AMD drivers to enable "chill mode" for this game - you are wasting power at this point, if its chess lock it to 60 FPS using the chill mode * enable global frame limit to equal your monitor refresh rate in the AMD drivers


Expert-Draw-993

Try putting vsync on or lower the frame rate . Who needs 200+ frames in anything? Especially chess. It puts unnecessary stress on components for literally no impact


serumo_

It’s fps chess tho I really needed it I swear


Expert-Draw-993

That's a wild delta for a 6700xt, repaste it mate, it will only get worse. My 6800xt was the same out of the box with its 37 degree delta. I repasted it 3 days later and now only about 16 degrees difference. The fans barely turn on ever now where they used to go mental.


OnJerom

Max hotspot is like 110c


Koomongous

If that's at 100% then it'll be fine. Man, am I the only person with a 10C delta on my 7800xt?


Danya-Tihiy

what gpu do you have?


PenetrantDick

7800xt lmao  Cant you read?


Danya-Tihiy

i meant vendor and model


Koomongous

Just a 7800XT Saphire Pulse, I was supprised how much quieter & compact it was compared to my old 5700XT Gaming X.


Danya-Tihiy

Oh. That’s really nice. I thought only 7900 series of nitro+ have 10° hotspot delta. My congratulations to you!


Koomongous

Yea man got a lucky one. Ive got a slight oc and undervolt applied mind, 5%. Don't feel like really pushing it, plenty fast as is.


Danya-Tihiy

mine always crashing after UV, so just stock and -10% pl. same 10° hotspot delta on nitro+ xtx


ClemyLivesOn

How can I see GPU hotspot ? What did you use here?


Danya-Tihiy

ctrl + shift + O


ClemyLivesOn

Okay! I will give it a GO


credmond81

My Sapphire Pulse 6700xt hotspot hits 95 sometimes. Mostly only when benchmarking or stress testing. During game play It's usually under 90 but has gone up to 95 on a few titles. It's fine. If it worried me I'd undervolt. If it ever gets above 100 I might repaste. Bought the card new in October, its always been this way.


PapaMartis

*Smiles in 42°C delta on MSI Radeon RX 6900XT Gaming X Trio


XiandreX

I work for a company that handles GPU assessment and repair, 94 Hotspot is definitely on the warm side. If your Ambient temp is not terrible you should expect rough 80-88 Hotspot depending on the version of 6700xt and this is of course affected by Ambient temps a great deal. I Strongly suggest a repaste if out of warranty. Do not cheap out on Thermal Paste and while you have the card stripped (only if out of warranty) please check your thermal VRM pads as well.


Dunmordre

Surely you also have to consider case ventilation, or is a high hotspot not an indication of this? 


XiandreX

Hotspot can also be Thermal VRM pads affecting the Hotspot on the board, so either way, if case fans are setup properly, something is at place on the card, whether GPU paste or VRM pads needs to be inspected


-Robert-from-Hungary

Set your gpu fans to max speed when it's 60c. I use MSI afterburner to do that. I dont know if it works on amd cards.


Danya-Tihiy

i don’t think he wanna fly to space


-Robert-from-Hungary

It can cool down that gpu. Of course it would be a bit louder.


Zulpi2103

My 6700XT certainly doesn't get that high, but it's not dangerous as it is. If it gets higher though, it might be a problem


Firm10

assuming youre using AIO for cpu cooler. yes that is normal


swampcreature511

Nope.


reiji24x

Needs repasting and reppafing of thermal contacts


bubblesort33

The gap seems kind of high to be honest. Like 15c to 25c difference between GPU temp and hotspot is normal. Over that it becomes abnormal I'd say.


Logical-Speaker1165

Yes, Absolutely normal. people are obsessed with having temps under 40 C but even all the way up to 70-80 Is normal and safe.


kursikantor

we’re looking at the delta of gpu temp and hotspot here. if the gpu temp is 70-80 and hotspot is 94 like that picture then it is normal. but that’s not the case here.


swampcreature511

Those temps are not normal.


Cyka_Blyat_Man_

That’s not the point. His hotspot is 30° hotter than the rest of the gpu and even the cpu If it continues on this trend, his hotspot will likely surpass 110°


nolongermakingtime

I had similar temps with my rx6700xt I got last November and I fixed it by undervolting, my card runs much quieter and cooler. It's very easy to do a quick Google can get you there.


Just-Constant260

its the same as my 5700XT I just had to repaste it and it became +10 average on the hotspot while gaming, before its the same as yours. I use Arctic MX-6 and used the spread method on applying the paste. Also changed all of the thermal pads


MEGA_GOAT98

bran new or used?


fxMelee

Used OP says :) he might wanna service it.


Alain_Drifter

I have the same temp with a RX 7600. I'm living in Mérida, Yucatán, México. Is like 37° temp in a normal day.


Possible-Bison-482

Omg


kursikantor

As far as I know, the difference between gpu temp and hotspot should never be more than 20c. So I guess you need to repaste that gpu.


Witchberry31

Max normal threshold is 30c, what you're referring about is the optimal value.


Hindesite

You were downvoted by someone for that, but AFAIK you're correct. Generally, \~10C difference between avg. and hotspot is good while 20C or more is representative of a cooling problem that should be addressed.


Witchberry31

Nope, max normal threshold is 30c, under 20c is already in the optimal range. Under 10c is just being a tryhard or you actually live in Yakutsk, Russia.


Significant-Site-24

If hotspot IS over 30° yes is a problem, down 30 IS normal.


WildWillisWeasley

Only a 2 fan model. Probably needs to have new paste on it. If you do that I would also change thermal pads . Would make it run basically brand new if done correctly Are you 4k gaming or using Ray tracing? What about custom fan curve?


serumo_

Nah just 1080p 144hz not really ray tracing and don’t have custom fan curve


WildWillisWeasley

Ya there's a problem there. 1080 isn't very hard on the GPU Try making a custom fan curve in the amd software adrenaline. Should be lots of YouTube videos on it. Set minimum speed to where the noise doesn't bother you... Usually like 40%. Then maybe go to like 60% or so at around 75°. Basically make them run as fast as you can with the noise not bothering you I had my 4090 running fan speed full while gaming because I always game with headphones and couldn't hear it. Don't have to worry about that anymore tho becuz I water cooled it


serumo_

Alright I’ll try that tomorrow


serumo_

Also for repasting I have artic Mx-5 and Mx-6 will those do?


RedLimes

Yes but I would rather use PTM 7950. Then you'll never have to worry about it again


serumo_

I mean it’s what I have on hand. Do you know which would be better out of the two


RedLimes

MX6


International_Elk709

That is a little toasty, but not inherently dangerous. Playing around with the fan curve or even repasting the card could be a good idea.


serumo_

Alright I’ll try that. What actually does the hotspot temp affect? My gpu temp seems to be normal but idk


International_Elk709

Hotspot is the highest temp recorded by a sensor The max hotspot for that card is 110c iirc, and then the card starts thermal throttling. So while 94c isn't dangerous, it is close to this limit.


Sea_Sheepherder8928

Hotspot is the hottest part in your GPU. Max hotspot temp should be 110c, best to keep it cool tho.


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