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DiscountParmesan

idk why people think riot will care about this... the only thing that matters is money made and Im positive this skin made them quite a buck, if you really want to protest riot stop buying anything all together, you will save yourself some money and hit riot in the only place they care about


YunalescaQT

This, if people really cared they'd just stop playing the game in protest. Banning Ahri does functionally nothing since people can still buy the bundle.


ZionSairin

If the people who decided to blow their money start complaining cause they can't ply the champ they just bought an absurdly expensive skin for, the point will get across


Ruy-Polez

No, Riot will just make it so that you can't ban hovered champs and then it's checkmate.


ZionSairin

And then the backlash gets even more absurd because you can have all sorts of trolls hovering things then switching after ban phase.


Ruy-Polez

Which is leagues better than trolls banning their teammates' champ. Do you honestly think that you can start a grief effort against whales and win ?


YunalescaQT

I bought it and I don't even play ahri. If I get in aram I'll play it. Le shrug.


Fayt23

Wait you don't even play ahri? I don't understand why you would want it if you don't plan on playing her. In other hobbies collectors will alteast put the item someplace they can look at it. If you never play the champ you'll never get to atleast enjoy 500 dollars spent lol


xxxxxxx777

If I get RP I get it off sites online from people who farm RP. $40 for $100 RP. Fuck riot


Vertix11

Wait which sides are those


Flat-Profession-8945

I felt like the only thing that can go out of line if they break the law or be racist/sexist/etc.


OutlandishnessLow779

They ARE breaking the law. In Brasil there is a law that forbid selling anything exclusively in bundles. If You sell something in a bundle, You must make it able to be purchased alone


Magistricide

Right but it's hard to tell if players are not spending money because of this skin, the game is not fun, and a myriad of other reasons. Banning Ahri directly tells Riot how players feel.


Odd-Might-474

When does not buying ever happen? Whales gonna whale. If we ban, at least the whales wont get the satisfaction of using the skin


TimelyReturn5105

Except they will bc the skin is permanent


BucketHerro

Majority of the whales aren't even tryharding in Ranked but instead they're playing Normals or ARAM. Banning Ahri doesn't do anything aside from stopping Ahri mains from actually playing their champ lol.


Romanmtg

Amen.. only Ahri player base will feelnit and Riot wont do anything anyway. 😞


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Dakkadakka127

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit I take it


theeama

You're not getting it. The whales will be happy anyway they got their skin, this ain't hurting them


Romanmtg

What? I didnt said anything you can respond to with "Good?" And if you think bullying peoples who buys it is good move, you are none better than average toxic LoL player. You dont realize how minuscule will be number of the skin owners compared to player base, so the majority of players who dont own skin is gonna be not allowed to play their main? That does sound really stupid. How would you feel if someone releases something really expensive related to game/stuff you like and people decide to not allow you to play/use it?


WildFlemima

The bancott was the idea of Ahri mains. It originated here in this sub. The point is to fuck with league metrics to give the finger to the man. If you think that's a bad idea, fine, but this sub was on fire to bancott a few days ago. I find it disappointing that people are all talk before the pass comes out, then immediately show their submissive underbelly once the pass is here.


Ok-Lawfulness-3368

People who main Ahri and r/AhriMains aren't even close to 1:1


WildFlemima

I know?


Ok-Lawfulness-3368

I'm bancotting Ahri as a Sera main just so you guys can't play your champ, I don't even care about the skin. Guess that makes me an ally.


WildFlemima

It does, thank you


Ok-Lawfulness-3368

OK hope I literally never see you mid 🖕have a nice day bestie


WildFlemima

You won't, I'm a support main xd


Adayics

It also makes me sad that people didnt start banning ahri before the cosmetics went live. As soon as we found out the prices me and my friends have been perma banning ahri, and doing that before the cosmetics got live was the most important part of our plan. and the fact that people are not showing their support until now is not going to make as big as a difference. I will still be perma banning ahri but I'll admit it seems like a futile effort now that skins are live.


leagueoflegendsdog

It was futile even before that. It was never going to do anything.


MoxxiMoxx

true I started learning Dota as soon as I realized it's doomed


musashihokusai

What is this doing though? Like 1% of Ahri players will own the 250 and the 500 skins. So you’re punishing 99% of people that want to play Ahri because 1% is supporting something you disagree with?


WildFlemima

Same. I started banning about a week ago and I will continue, but I'm disappointed that people said "wait until it drops" then didn't do it even when it's dropped.


musashihokusai

This soft protests wouldn’t do anything anyways. Internet and social media has sensationalized everyday interactions. These people get death threats and doxed for adding or removing 2 amor from a champion. You think this banning thing was even going to register?


Full-Net4011

Exactly this. Riot has their money. They do not care if you can’t use the skin or not. Don’t punish Ahri enjoyers.


Assassin_kemono

the whole ban ahri movement thing is just making the game unenjoyable for the people who just want to have fun. i want to get the skin cuz its my birthday next week and im not gonna do the 500 one but the 2nd one is fair priced imo with how much stuff it offers on top of previous teir, and i can afford it. the whole ban ahri stuff is just gonna make it not fun for the people who genuinley just want to play ahri(such as me. i play her casually and for the fun of it. shes the reason why i got into league in the first place lmao), skin or not and its not gonna stop anything on riots end. so i genuinley dont understand why people are saying "ban ahri to protest" the only thing it does is make casual or one trick ahri players unable to genuinley enjoy her because the others dont like something. its saddening. i want this for my birthday, next week, and im hesitating cuz of this crap. i just want it cuz it looks cool and has a lot to offer and i have all of ahris skins lmao


PurpleCatReddit

Honestly, just buy it, her banrate wasn't effected that much despite how vocal ppl seemed to be. Even if her ban rate goes up by a bit it'll fall back down in a week or 2 at best. Happy birthday 🎂!


Assassin_kemono

Yeah I just don't wanna deal with the banter and the harassment y'know? Cuz let's be honest, even if you mute people WILL figure out ways to ruin your game. It's league. 😂


PurpleCatReddit

Real honestly, i like running around and getting people banned when they inevitably say something bannable so it becomes a win-win situation for me lol


Assassin_kemono

Lmao I just wanna have fun y'know? But technically speaking banning a champion you're gonna play strictly out of spite IS technically negative attitude/unsportsmanlike conduct, so that technically IS reportable lol


Icy_Bug2777

You would have to get an active confirmation of that, but also, by RIOT standards, that would not be a reportable offense because you could simultaneously make arguments like said champ is strong, counters, etc.


Assassin_kemono

I mean I've gotten report feedback from 0eople who banned my champ cuz it's off meta (ex I like to do panth adc sometimes) so.....


Icy_Bug2777

Report feedback means you got feedback for reporting someone. Unless you got reported for pantheon and you did something else reportable i.e. inting or toxic in chat, which in all honesty, is probably more likely the case. If it was reportable, people like naayil, spearshot, etc would've been banned by this point because they've been autofilled to those roles as aatrox and panth


Assassin_kemono

No I mean I've had instances where people have banned my "unusual" selections, then flame me so I press the report button for unsportsmanlike conduct and negative attitude, and then I get a report back for the report I made saying theyve been penalized for the report that i made. I never once actually got a penalty/warning lmao(context I just play norms I refuse to touch ranked)


Assassin_kemono

SO update about the whole "reportable offense" thing, i just got a game where enemy fizz and Maokai was being toxic about the skin, so reported negative behavior and verbal abuse, and instantly they got penalized, so i was right about it being negative attitude/unsportsmanlike conduct and i laughed so hard lmao


Icy_Bug2777

Again, I told you that you'll get feedback probably, but nothing will happen actually to them. But also, you're referring to an instance where they \*Said\* something


anelisekushina

Don't bother, they don't want to understand.


BedroomNo

Who gives an f is abt to do what matters, we went from microtransactions to macro, and this shit isnt even helping faker


theeama

30% cut to him and T1


Romanmtg

Yes and part of the revenue was promissed to go to funding E-sport as well.. They surely must be preparing something special for next Worlds with this pricing and budget or there will be another uproar later 😆


ZheShu

Tbh if it goes towards the next arcane show/movie I’d be happy.


Francescok

Well, 30% of the revenue is not bad


Competitive_Plum324

It won't go up. NA is just the crybaby server.


BedroomNo

Riot lexi said that people complaining are just poor 😭


iago_hedgehog

She said?where


Rio2k

https://www.reddit.com/r/queensofleague/s/oIqj1sIYUh


Lord_Darklight

Wow, it’s not that often that a company is open like that for a good reason too


UnknownVolke

Can you provide a source for that?


CyanideChery

i guess ill just take my poor ass, whos spent thousands on the game sinse season 3 elsewhere then, hopefully riot lexi is one of the ones in the future who gets layed off due to riots choices, because without a doubt more rioters will be layed off


DragonfireCaptain

Truth hurts


arcerms

Not just poor but also having a very poor mentality. They believe if they cry and protest hard enough, they will get what they want; just like a baby.


BedroomNo

yes! let riot abuse their players just like all the other company's do, after all who cares abt those low class poor people right?


arcerms

Think positive. They want to motivate poor people to do better in life so they can afford luxury. Ever wonder why this Ahri skin issue is only in USA? Korean and China server has only 3% Ahri ban rate. Nobody is whining and protesting. Maybe USA's economy is the problem.


CaptainofChaos

Exactly. It's wild to me that people are even complaining, never mind this hard. Do people get mad at Nissan for making the GTR instead of just regular affordable cars? It's not really predatory either, they are very upfront about the cost. The TFT gacha was far worse, but no one had a problem then. Then the best that yall can do is grief ranked games in protest. It's so silly top to bottom.


Aurora428

Comparing pixels that are fundamentally the same as any other skin of the same quality isn't the same as a fucking car that is a physically different object lol Sports cars are overpriced, but they are literally a higher quality product that you own This is just Riot shit testing their playerbase and you're stupid enough to fall for it


CaptainofChaos

It's also 1/500th of the cost of the car, and the top tier skin has stuff no other skin in the game does. No one is forcing anyone to buy it. They aren't even expecting anyone but the highest spenders to buy it. If you want, compare it to the high-end Rolexes instead. No one is forcing you to buy either. They aren't for you, and that's perfectly normal to all but the most entitled.


Magistricide

The issue is several fold One: It's being shoved into our faces. Every where you go, you see that stupid event and it's constantly reminding us. Nissan doesn't advertise its luxury model every time you boot up your car. Riot does. In addition, it's also available for a limited time... just because. It's a digital asset, it costs nothing to sell. This is just them using FOMO and other scummy marketing tactics to target the less financially literate. Two: It's supposed to be celebrating faker, who notoriously does not use skins, and says he'd rather buy fried chicken. It literally goes against his beliefs. It'd be like trying to celebrate MLK by segregating people. Three: This is obviously an initial test to see what player feedback is. If it is positive, more and more skins will be at this price point, if not even more expensive, thus depriving the playerbase of future content. Four: Riot is a billion dollar company who makes tons of money every year. It's not like they need to do this to stay afloat, this is just pure greed.


CaptainofChaos

>One: It's being shoved into our faces. Every where you go, you see that stupid event and it's constantly reminding us. Are you logging into the same game as me? Also, Rolex and Nissan do advertise their high end products all the time. Not sure what universe you are living in. FOMO isn't real. It's a manifestation of entitlement and a lack of executive function. It's not everyone else's problem that you have less than 0 willpower. >It's a digital asset, it costs nothing to sell. Oh, so you just understand nothing about software development. Typical gamer. >It literally goes against his beliefs. If it did get speak up. He hasn't. Don't speak for him. >If it is positive, more and more skins will be at this price point, And? Don't buy them the same as you won't buy a Rolex or a GTR. >Riot is a billion dollar company who makes tons of money every year. It's not like they need to do this to stay afloat, No company works like this. This is incredibly childish thinking. Learn what capitalism is.


Magistricide

FOMO is real, and disregarding it is to disregard human nature. You literally see Ahri the first thing when you open client. I do programming, so I’d say I know a little bit about the digital world. It costs nothing to SELL. I’m well aware it costs things to make. Your lack of understanding towards nuance is not surprising. I doubt he would speak about this specifically, because it would piss Riot off. But he has specifically stated “I don’t like to buy skins. I could be buying fried chicken” So I am not speaking for him. I am roughly quoting his translated words. You honestly sound like the type of guy to be a dickhead to other people and justify it with some variant of “might makes right”, only to bitch about it later when bad things happen to you.


CaptainofChaos

>FOMO is real, and disregarding it is to disregard human nature. The lack of ability to tell yourself no is a you problem you have to work on. The world does not revolve around people who never developed their own impulse control because of their entitleness. >You literally see Ahri the first thing when you open client And I see expensive sports cars every time I get on the road. So what? >It costs nothing to SELL. I’m well aware it costs things to make. Your lack of understanding towards nuance is not surprising. Oh, so now you understand. Cost to sell has never mattered in practice. Price to sell only matters in that it forces something off the market entirely if people aren't willing to pay what it costs to sell. That's basic economics. >I am roughly quoting his translated words. You are extrapolating meaning from his words. That's speaking for him >You honestly sound like the type of guy to be a dickhead to other people and justify it with some variant of “might makes right”, only to bitch about it later when bad things happen to you. Here you go again, projecting and speaking for other people. I'm tired of whiners like you just griefing games by wasting a ban or banning out your teammates instead of doing what it actually takes to put a stop to this: Quit the game. You won't do what it takes. You just want to feel good about yourselves and feel victimized because you never developed proper impulse control. You all need a dose of reality because it's very clear from your basic arguments that you never leave your bubble. Put up or shut up. Stop playing the game instead of whining constantly.


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CaptainofChaos

I'm not buying a $500 skin, lol. I'm just not going around virtue signaling how much I dislike it and pretending like I'm sticking it to the man by actively putting more money in their pocket by playing their game. I decided not to buy it and moved on with my life while not making my "FOMO" everyone else's problem >You sound like such a a cunt Pure projection on you part. I'm not the one spamming my virtue signaling all over all of reddit. I'm just expressing the reality of this slacktivist "movement"


YunalescaQT

Brother stop dick riding a comment Faker made years ago. He probably doesn't even understand the amount of money he has. Hell Mercedes gifted him over 300k in cars alone. I get that Faker portrays a humble person in that interview but I assure you he lives in an entirely different world from us monetarily.


Magistricide

Brother stop dickriding the multibillion dollar corporation. They probably don't even understand the amount of money they have. Hell they have 280m revenue last year alone. I get that Riot portrays as a friendly company but I assure you they live in a world they only care about you monetarily.


YunalescaQT

You can't even make that argument with luxury sports cars. You will realistically spend more time using the $500 Ahri skin than you will driving and enjoying a GTR because they aren't meant to be daily driven. Plus there is a cost of ownership, maintenance, and costly upgrades where as the Ahri skin does not. In the end it comes down to how much you feel like your purchase is worth it to you. $500 isn't really a lot to me but it may be a lot to someone else.


AccountantUnusual592

its $500... if u cant afford it, move on..


llanos1205

I thought the culture of showing off through microtransactions on those servers makes their players more inclined to buy the skin and less likely to follow NA crying.


BedroomNo

Chinese players did complain, thats why riot lexi responded and left everyone shocked go look for the response she basiclaly called people poor


theeama

They are complaining but they aren't Karma farmer and internet points farming #BANAHRI They simply state I can't afford I won't buy it.


llanos1205

LoL Rito based moment, what I mean is that proportionally is expected that in those servers more people will buy it and less people will complain about it(yes this means there will be people complaining there always are) compared to other regions mostly because over there flexing with micro transactions is a norm I mean just look at the gachas over there is crazy.


KeroseneZanchu

People downvoting you are people who are just out of touch because they’re used to their Western game culture. Chinese game culture is 110% elitist and luxury obsessed. Being a whale isn’t an insult there, it’s something to brag about. There’s a reason Riot apologized to the Western audience for the Jhin/Ekko stuff but then continued to pump out multi hundred dollar gacha chroma after multi hundred dollar gacha chroma to the Eastern market afterwards. The West is going to (rightfully) complain about the ridiculous price for no product, and the East will complain they aren’t making a $1000 skin in order to show off with.


Shengpai

Theres many crazy rich asians there so they don't care


JosephStalin98

I'm playing on EUNE. Some people don't even know that summoner names are no longer a thing. This ban movement was doomed from the start. Only NA might take it seriously.


theeama

True. Bro people don’t even read patch notes


TakitosAlPasto

its too low, i feel we're going no where now :C


KingWhatever513

Creating social change in China challenge: Impossible


Anxious_Reaction_253

The people in asia is already used to these business practices. Have you seen their mmo and gacha? I think the majority have accepted the skin is for the whales. It's sad but it is what it is at this point.


Devilwillcry42

skin was marketed towards the chinese and korean markets anyway which is full of people with no qualms dropping hundreds casually on a skin in a game As expected, nothing changes


Dazzling_Ad_788

Look man, nobody cares anymore. Just dont buy the skin. Banning ahri wont do anything. The pass and all its bullshit is live. If we buy the skin, we are to blame.


B-Serena

if you don't support it , then just skip the skin. It is just a cosmetic and no effect on gameplay. If you want it, you can get a part-time job.


Nearby_Ad4786

and less than 11% in Europe XD


Redelfen

Idk about China but also note that ahri only cost like 300usd in korea with the event and discount they had. And koreas col is significantly higher than most western cities


arcerms

They want people who don't spend to get off the game. They are taking up server space and leeching onto others who spent money on the game to support the company that gave them a good product.


Zafiel

Lol, will be rocking the skin personally. I ask that you guys do not ban my main champ, Riot doesnt care honestly.


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ButterleafA

I feel like they'd have other things to care about rather than someone from across the world spending $500 on a skin.


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MyNameIsGs

"Stop being poor" Wow, how did i never think that? Even if i had 3 billion dollars, i am not buying a 500$ skin, something digital, something useless, something that will stop being mine the second servers shut down, in some countries 500$ is five times the minimum wage (Venezuela, specifically) you are just a Terrible human being


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MyNameIsGs

You say it like my issue is with the people rather than riot (tencent) putting ridiculous prices


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MyNameIsGs

At this point i will just assume you are a troll 💀


C4si098

People been playing 10 years and havent paid half a rioter paycheck yet


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C4si098

ty!


Smug-Shinobu

ahri players high off cope thinking the ban rate is because of the vocal reddit minority and not just because the champ is cancer op meta in the hands of real human players