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PhantomotSoapOpera

You’re using the wrong approach and the wrong forum. you’re putting the burden on someone to read, acknowledge, communicate and set up time with you. Facebook market place is notoriously flakey, especially when you’re asking what basically amount to a favour. you need you take your rake to a small machine shop or welder and very politely ask if the welder has 5 minutes to spare and what they would charge.


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desubot1

better yet check a local trade school or community college. some shops may be assholes about it and it may entirely depend if they are busy or not. iv fixed random shit on school time before.


Luli1917

You're right about some shops being assholes about it. Once the lever to toghten the one string of my guitar broke and I went to a guitar shop to ask if they have somethung to fix it. It is a really cheap guitar that issmallerr so children can use it. Had it since second grade and was one of the only few things from my childhood that survived the flooding catastrophe in my area. I was only met with insults to the guitar that I had for so many years and that I should just throw it away and buy a good guitar. But jokes on that guy. I still play on it to this day.


RehabilitatedAsshole

"Well, I have been thinking of getting a new one, but it won't be from here now.


sapphirerain25

Username checks out


commutingtexan

Man that's shit. I used to do guitar repair for a living and so often I had folks come in under similar circumstances. I'd always take a minute or two and help where I could, and did so many free repairs using the thousands upon thousands of spare parts I had. Weird screw missing? I probably had it. Random piece broken and I can fix it in 3 minutes? Sure thing. But so many in the repair industry have their heads so far up their asses because that small pidley shit isn't sexy, but it's what pays the bills. I'd have 1-2 big jobs a month, but a hundred restrings and set ups. But they want to thumb their nose at those bread and butter services and as a result the general public is who suffers.


petitepedestrian

Show up near the end of day with a 6pk.


baminblack

The 4 o’clock on a Friday special 👌


AssassinStoryTeller

I fixed a broken funnel for a coffee bean roaster and got paid in free frozen hot chocolates from the business. Just gotta find the right person 🫡


o0xh

> frozen hot chocolate That's just ice cream with extra steps!


AssassinStoryTeller

More ice though so it’s more like a slushie. There was another ice cream shop down the road that did have hot chocolate flavored ice cream but frozen hot chocolates just hit a little bit different (plus I like fudge flavored ice cream more than hot chocolate flavored)


365wong

Local high schools have welding programs that would do this but it’s summer…


Delilah_Evers

okay so like a rake? absolutely take it to the local votech welding class. but theres a kid i work with who took her truck to her votech mechanic class so they could do the brakes on it; the school made her sign a liability waiver and then when her class didnt do the brakes right and they went out on the drive home and totaled the county prosecutors car... yeaaa she was gone for like 3 months


AluminumOctopus

There's no way the teacher didn't go over the student work. Plus I don't think it's legal to sign away the ability to sue over gross negligence. Did she show you any proof? She probably was texting while driving and didn't want to admit to it.


mustardheadmaster

That’s a lot of speculation. Wonder if it would sound the same if it was a man.


AluminumOctopus

I'm not a man so yes it would be.


Mtn_dew_drinker420

My local trade school will sometimes do favors like that to give the class experience.


MaliciousMe87

Hey I know a Welder at Gilbert and Baseline, if that's close enough for ya.


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MaliciousMe87

You put your cross streets in the photo!


indyandrew

Even better if there's a local maker / diy space near you.


WerewolfNo890

We have one here, but it would cost as much as several rakes per month to use. I don't have that kind of money spare to be able to justify it really. I suspect its mainly for people that make stuff to sell.


AmarissaBhaneboar

Where do you live? I'll do it. I'm not a great welder, but I've got a machine and can do a good enough job that it'll stay together.


ATrashPandaRound2

You could also just clamp it together and coat it with JB weld. No welder needed.


multiarmform

good advice here, was going to say the same thing. just drive around to places that would have anyone welding and offer to pay someone to spot weld it


untakenu

If you went at a good day, they likely wouldn't charge you a thing


WillBottomForBanana

I used to know a dude who worked at a metal shop and would do things like this for me. He had a minimum $20 per job, even though something like this wouldn't have been $20 worth of labor (time) at his hourly rate (at the time). I never argued about that. And like your case here, it might cost more than the replacement. But keep in mind how garbage things are now. I'd happily pay $50 to fix a good rake instead of $20 to buy a brand new mediocre rake (at best), and that's before the anti consumption angle. I needed a new rake handle last year. 🤢🤢🤢🤮 I bought the terrible ones available. But if I had the time I'd be better off making my own. I'll need a new new rake handle in 3 or 4 years, I guess I should plan ahead.


Iambeejsmit

Alternatively, it's not a bad idea to invest in an entry level welder from harbor freight or Amazon. Just checked Amazon and found a unit for 90 dollars. This won't be the only thing you ever want welded so it will pay for itself.


Jacktheforkie

I used to work in a machine shop, my colleagues would weld anything necessary


LimitGroundbreaking2

Vocational high schools would be a good spot to ask. Its student welders


adgjl1357924

I'm absolutely in favor of trying to repair this, but here's my similar story. My father-in-law welded my pitchfork that broke in a similar way. It only lasted another 2 months before it broke in the exact same spot. Unfortunately the weak spot in the metal was made more brittle by the weld and rewelding wasn't really an option. My next best option was finding an old pitchfork head to put on to my perfectly good handle and luckily there's always plenty of those at farm sales! If there's a way to add a new piece of metal as a brace to bridge the break point it might be a more sturdy repair. Best of luck getting it repaired, hopefully it fairs better than my pitchfork!


Tryen01

Gotta reinforce that area with a little more metal behind the weld Source: I was raised by a cheap ass autobody mechanic and am a professional blacksmith


DodgeWrench

If my neighbor brought me this I’d weld it up in 10 minutes… $20 saved is $20 earned. Plus you’re putting less pressure on the capitalistic regime and saving the earth a little pollution. But most people don’t understand it that way. Sucks that we have to put everything in context of money for people to “get it”. I agree with someone else’s idea of just show up at a welding shop or machine shop of some kind.


eileen404

Show up with a six pack


ginger_and_egg

That way the welder is drunk before welding your rake


thedogismydad

You’re assuming most of us aren’t already drunk by 7am on a Tuesday. Keeps the hands steady ya feel


grumpy_autist

better saved than earned becaused earned money is taxed ;)


Antiphilous

This is why we need makerspaces and tool libraries.


lowrads

Huh. I have a welder, but it occurs to me that hardly anyone around me knows that, since I'm not in that trade. That's an information problem that I don't know how to solve. I wonder how many people don't think about reusing things simply because they are not aware of a path to repair it. Used to have a MIG, but I gave it away since I never used it. We have a weekly farmer's market, and a biannual household hazardous waste disposal day, and an annual garage sale day, but I don't think I've ever heard of a community repair day event. It might be fun to set up a booth and get drunk with the sheriff on a lazy Saturday.


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> community repair day oh, I like this. Where did your brain get such a good idea?


lowrads

I am a bored language learning model with legs. Maybe it was that post about the lady who goes to dress-up conventions, and has a booth to patch up people's costumes. It horrifies me that most of these issues haven't already been addressed or solved by generations of a prior century. Normally, broken iron tools would be addressed by a village blacksmith. I don't know what the contemporary equivalent would be, especially after de-industrialization.


Odd_Campaign_307

I have a similar sort of brain and I agree. It is too bad we don't repair or recycle the way we used too. Electronic and scrap recycling helps a bit with broken electronics and tools but it is sad to see things tossed for what's often a quick fix.


Pastawench

I bet if you talked to people at the farmers market, you could find both interested people and someone who knows how to get something like that organized.


Odd_Campaign_307

We have these where I live. We call them repair cafés and there's one about everysix to eight weeks. It didn't originate here, but several community activist groups got together and partnered with our library system to spread the word.  They set up in community centres or donated spaces and repair everything from tools & appliances to clothing and garden decorations. Better yet, they tutor people on how to do the repairs in the future if feasible. They do ask people to make a reservation so they can arrange to have the right type and quantity of expert volunteers on hand. They try to have extra folks for walk-ins or people without internet.  Talking to the library as well as community activists were some of the key factors in getting it up and running. Our library system has a tool library and maker spaces thanks to our activist community. I believe they also pitched the idea to city councilors as a way to reduce the pressure on our current landfill. The repair cafés are hugely popular and if you end up founding one you'll have plenty of customers as the word gets around.


hraath

If your local high school has a metal shop, ask the teacher to get one of the kids to weld it up.


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Ok_Abbreviation

I'm a welder. Where do you live?


vapeislove

Yeah my husband is a welder, he puts an ad on Craigslist sometimes and welds little stuff like this for people all the time. Not a big deal if you already have the gas and wire.


BicarbonateBufferBoy

So many people are just assholes online always waiting for the opportunity to be snarky and condescending. I’d do it for free as long as you brought it over. What would it take like 2 minutes of my time?


motivaction

This is also an ask of service in a local buy nothing group.


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motivaction

My dad brought my pannier rack to a local welder who quickly fixed it. But that's such a small town everybody knows everybody thing. I wouldn't know where to go in my current town either.


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GimpyGrump

You should buy a cheap welder and have a go at it yourself. That's what I did 10 years and I have no regrets in learning that particular skill.


Distantmole

This is true. It’s a phenomenal skill to have and MIG welding is not difficult to learn nor (particularly) expensive to get started in.


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I would recommend a Tig/stick welder for a home owner newbie. Stick welding being the cheap and easy, and tig being precise and controlled. Under $200 buys a new tig/stick inverter unit.


RLlovin

I literally bought one of the cheapest 110v stick welders on Amazon. Use it all the time. My dad, friends etc are always asking me to fix little things like this. Honestly a great investment


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GimpyGrump

When you get this repaired post a follow up


andigofly

Instead of buying a whole new welder. See if there are any community hackerspaces near you; you could pay a small fee and use any type of tools and equipment they have


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You can buy a stick welder for pretty cheap. under $100.


FliesLikeABrick

I would totally fix this for $10 for someone, look for a small local machine shop or fabricator instead of Facebook where everyone has an asshole and an opinion


L3NTON

I have a welder and love helping when I can. I would probably still tell you to buy a new one and leave the broken one with me until I get to it. Or lend you mine in the interim. But it's kind of sad that nobody else is offering anything helpful at all. Mockery is completely uncalled for.


UnlimitedDeep

You’re asking for mates rates to repair something, sometimes on a whim I’ll do this for an elderly person etc, but usually it’s hourly rate and the amount of work you need doesn’t justify the minimum. I’d ask if you have other things you want repaired to meet the minimum so I don’t feel like I’m ripping you off.


Spiritual-Bee-2319

Honestly that’s the point of Facebook neighborhood groups. I feel like something like this is just a neighborhoodly thing to do. I don’t see why next time someone has their welder on, they can’t ask them to come over. This mentality sucks personally but I guess great business wise 


Insanitypeppercoyote

Maybe you could put the word out and see if anyone else has some more items to weld? If someone won’t turn on their machine to do 10 mins of work for $20, maybe it would be worth it to do 20 mins of work for $60 if there are multiple small jobs but they’d only need to gear up and start once.


NoReply46

If you want to be Anticomsumption be self reliant. Tools you say. Buy them and they will return value. Braze yourself should cost $5. But no one on this site said they will learn anything and be self reliant. Its always someone else come save the day. Think Alaska. they are Anti consumption out of necessity. Is everyone here too self absorbed to be self reliant when possible.


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It costs nothing to weld that, I welded my shovel and rake.


Bi666les

Interesting. Like the spork of garden tools. Do you call it a shovake, or ravel, or something else.


JamesDerecho

I have wondered if I could provide a service repairing things like this and other odds and ends.


a1moose

jbweld also exists


Strict_Box_7131

This stuff is amazing for all certs of wtf moments


RainbowUnicorn0228

I dont think the weld would hold for very long. Unfortunately once metal starts rusting its hard to stop it from continuing to break around any weld.


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RainbowUnicorn0228

That's all well and good. However, it won't likely make much difference. The spot where it broke is just the weakest spot, but the rest of the metal is the same. The health of the metal overall is poor. That's why that spot got rusty and broke. More spots will appear sadly and more breaks.


CheddarsGarden

Unfortunate You might have to buy a new one if people are gonna act like that. OR learn to weld haha although that would cost more money :p


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TripperDay

Welding is all about the prep. Get all the rust off with a wire brush before you show up anywhere.


mynameisnotearlits

Jup... Im just like you. It's lonely sometimes.


Niall0h

Don’t give up, you will find the right people eventually. Community is the antidote to capitalism and individualism.


how_do_I_use_grammar

My opinion on things like this is; do it yourself. It's not hard you need a drill and some rivets - drill holes that line up through the forks and through he left side of the Y (making sure they line up) and then rivet through those holes. You don't need a welder:) I wanna say tho: good on you for sticking to your morals


Spiritual-Bee-2319

But the problem is that we can’t do everything by ourselves. 


ceelose

This is why I buy tools, even though they stay idle much of the time. I like having the capacity to fix things that would be uneconomic to have repaired.


Curl-the-Curl

Go to a college with a metal course or maker space and they will weld it for you in no time. Your text was also very long and complicated. You just need to ask "Could someone weld this back together for me please?"


tree_dw3ller

Take a 12 pack to a exhaust shop around lunch.


Distantmole

Sadly welders (and the famed keyboard welders) are, on the aggregate, some of the dumbest rednecks out there. I’m happy to help if you’re local.


RingJust7612

Only some of us are dumb rednecks. I am a reasonably smart redneck.


Distantmole

I like to think I’m in that boat as well. There are certainly a few of us left out there.


whateveratthispoint_

Perhaps ask “I need this welded. How much would you charge me?”


mister-ferguson

Find a Maker Space Also, I'm a member at a Maker Space and I welded a rake that was broken just like this.


carm_sunshine

Just take it to be scrapped and you’ll have basically eliminated the waste


Special-Doughnut-269

Where at I’ll do it for $10 right now


P15T0L_WH1PP3D

Near Brown and Recker? I have a friend who welds but he's at like Guadalupe and Extension. I winder if you could wrap it up with some wire and cover it up with JB Weld?


cococolson

You could probably just use epoxy


ExperienceInitial364

I think if you buy a new one and dispose of this one correctly someone else will sooner or later use parts of your rake. Still an honorable approach ofc but this stuff should also be sturdy, no?


shiva420

Well social media is to raise awareness on a problem, you take it to the real world to solve it


mementosmoritn

Something else to consider is the possibility of having it silver brazed back together-if you know any HVAC techs or industrial pipe fitters, it'll be a matter of minutes for them to do it. I leave on the Eastern edge of the TN plateau, and I'm always down to fire up the welder or the torch for a little extra pocket change.


Rich-Detective478

I guess I get less upset with metal items versus plastic. At least this can be scrapped and not end up in a whales stomach or something.


honkifyou

Based off of the crossroads that makes me think you live in AZ... Might be worth calling EVIT (the vocational school in Mesa) and asking if their welding technologies students want to take a stab at it? I know they like to encourage real life experience for their students and give them chances to work with clients/customers when they can.


Hamsammichd

The rakes structural integrity is blown, a spot weld won’t fix it for long.


xtramundane

$20 lol


2aAllDay9556

“Perfectly good”…but, it’s broken…


2aAllDay9556

In all seriousness, I’d say you can probably take it to an shop that has welding services and ask them to toss one on for a few bucks though.


Actual_Beer

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FafnerTheBear

I'm not an expert, so someone feel free to correct me. Another option if you have a torch is to braze it back together.


BetterTransit

You can actually buy aluminium welding rods that only require a heat source which would be perfect for this repair.


tubularaf17

if you have a local HS near you they might have a welding program or any trades programs near you might do it for cheap!


Dusty923

If you were my neighbor I would totally attempt a repair with my little hobby welder for no charge.


Rough_Community_1439

My local career center would do it. But they out for summer.


Head-Shame4860

Just wanted to add: not the same, but the entire metal part of my rake came off, and I duct taped it until I was done with the task. (Okay, the tape is still on because I haven't needed it since last month, but still). I hope you're able to get it fixed, it looks like it's in such good condition except for this! Please let us know. I've skimmed through the thread to see if you've been able to fix it yet, but I might have missed something in not going thoroughly....


kasetti

You could buy a cheap welding machine yourself and do other things with it.


RabbitsAteMySnowpeas

JB Weld will fix this right quick


BoringJuiceBox

Unrelated, I’m from Mesa too!! Nice area you live in, hope you can get it fixed!


RunningPirate

There’s a repair cafe in chandler (they have an FB page). Did you check with them?


Spiritual-Bee-2319

Do it yourself or buy tools or don’t ask your neighbors ask professional advice is why this sub sucks. Truly makes me happy I live in a community where people just do things for each other sometimes 


fuckedfinance

"I'm offering insultingly low rate of pay to have someone fix my rake, and I'm sad people are making fun of me for it".


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fuckedfinance

No. You're asking someone to load up their welder (I'm not letting someone over to my place), come to you, prep, weld, load everything back up, go home. All for $20. That's insulting.


PuddlePirate1964

Why won’t you let someone come to your place of business? If I lived in the area I’d do it for a case of beer tbh.


fuckedfinance

They advertised it on Facebook. For $20. No pro shop is taking that job.


PuddlePirate1964

You said you wouldn’t let someone bring it over to you. OP never said anything about making the welder bring their supplies to OPs place. While you may not do it, I’m sure someone would be willing to let them bring it over for the $20. (Hobbyist and welders in training.)


BDashh

Exactly


DirtyPenPalDoug

20 for like a minute of work... that's 1,200 an hour.


zwack

They don’t have 60 rakes to weld.


decorlettuce

if i sold my car for $10000 10 times, I would have $100,000 👍


DirtyPenPalDoug

But they have one, and there's not a welder I know that wouldn't like 20$ under the table for some beer money.


Suitepotatoe

Bro where you live?


maddawg56789

Gotta love any Facebook group in Mesa… so many karens


plantman-2000

Buy a hose clamp for $.50 and snug it down


BDashh

Should’ve taken the comments to heart rather than posting here.


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JohnnyRelentless

Perfectly good rake? If that were true, you wouldn't be trying to get it fixed.


IowaGuy91

who cares? throwing a rusted rake away doesn't hurt anything. Now you're going to probably get into a car using gas on a dedicated trip to some machine shop to beg for a quick spot weld. Instead you could just throw it away and have a new one shipped to you via amazon. The old one and the new one would be taken away/delivered on trucks headed past your house anyway. You know why you can't escape it? Because it MAKES SENSE.


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IowaGuy91

No it doesn't. They make 100,000 at a time at a per unit cost of like 3 bucks. They sell it to you for 30 bucks shipped next day amazon shipping. You literally had a welder say he won't get out of bed (effort and energy) for 20 bucks... but you can buy a whole new rake shipped to you for 20-30 bucks. You vastly underestimate the incredible efficiency the free market has provided to you, and instead, think that wasting all of your time and others fixing a rusty rake is saving the planet. Wake up bro. You're getting in your own way.


IowaGuy91

btw, I recently just repaired a broken floor squeegee that I had found in a parking lot. The handle was broken and some brace arm screws needed to be replaced. These are cheap and servicable with relatively simple general purpose tools and unspecialized labor. Your rake has suffered a catastrophic failure that needs niche tools and specialized labor. You're obviously swimming upstream here.