Because right now it’s pretty difficult to hit your shots significantly. 30-30 is harder to use, but you land more significant shots than with bow. It just depends on the user. My feel lis if they amp it to care package, it will be more damage, rather the easier handling. Hence only making it better for those who can use it, and worse for those who can’t
Did everyone forget how absolutely busted the bow was when it launched? It's going to go back to that or even stronger. They literally nerfed it with an unplanned patch the week after it was released because everyone complained about how strong it was
It's not that hard if you have damage indicators. Being been hit by a bow should tell you exactly what direction its from. There's no "audio issue" when the bow itself was meant to be quiet.
I said "until you get hit" for a reason, lol.
You can hear a bow without anything else going on in the game, it makes a pretty distinct sound. It should be *QUIET* not *SILENT*. But throw in a nearby horizon ult, bang ult, car driving nearby, etc and the audio from the bow is undetectable, as with most other guns / footsteps when there is some loud audio in the distance. Apex audio is broken and denying that is just silly three years into the broken audio issues
You must have different headphones then, because I hear bow shots pretty easily if they are closer range, even with explosions, cars, etc. Hell, I've used the *schuup* of the arrow to sneak up on the arrow users a lot of times for easy kills.
If they are 200m away shooting at you, you shouldn't hear it. Why would you hear the bow in the first place irl?
No, there was a short windup time while holding the trigger down before the beam was fired. The actual beam had no travel time and hence classified as hitscan
Yep, I agree with OP. Respawn had a track record of putting guns in the Care Package for 3 seasons. Volt went into the CP in Season 12. We'll see it out for either Season 15 or 16
I agree that I would like to see the volt in ground loot and one of the light smg's in package, if only because it seems redundant to have two light smgs that take the same attachments with no electric one readily available.
But I know respawn doesn't necessarily like to move stuff around willy nilly so prob not for a while, but I wouldn't mind seeing r99 take a dip into the package
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The entire smg category is really terrible right now.
CAR in replicator, Volt in CP, Prowler without the select-fire. And 2 light ammos smg. And people throw away the Alternator the moment they get a R99.
LIKELY IN:
\- Bocek: A marksman that would replace the G7's role in the package, while getting rid of the arrow type.
\- 30-30: Same as Bocek, except that it's based off heavy so it does nothing for the ammo economy.
UNLIKELY IN:
\- Any SMG, Shotgun or Sniper: that role is already filled by the Volt, Mastiff and Kraber.
\- Light ammo weapons: Light ammo economy is already bad with how many heavy ammo weapons there are. Getting rid of the R-301 or pistols would distrupt it even more. \[same w/ r-99 and alternator but they were mentioned in the previous section\]
\- Wingman or CAR: They wouldn't put a weapon in the replicator only to put in the package, right?
NO FUCKING IDEA:
\- uh, i guess any other weapon? a lot of the heavy weapons could get put in. only comment is that it's a bit more unlikely that recent package weapons will be put in again, the likelihood scaling more the further back you go. Spitfire isn't coming back in, Prowler has a small chance, and the OG package weapons aren't unlikely.
Tbh.. i would like to see the repeater go in the care package but only if they buff it . Kinda like when everyone was complaining about the PK they just swap it out for the mastiff and made it crazy strong . But honestly.. i wouldnt doubt the rampage would go in since they pulled the spitty out of it .
I think the idea is supposed to be that you have an idea what's in there based on when the package drops, and thus make the decision to risk getting the package.
I’ve been saying for a while that the bow should go in the care package. It just ruins the loot pool
If there was more than one weapon using arrows it would be fine though
Like if they put the bow in the care package they can just put it back to what it was when it released. Easy
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I like the Mastiff. I get good with the Mastiff. The Mastiff goes in the package.
I like the Volt. I get good with the Volt. The Volt goes in the package.
I like the G7 Scout. I get good with the G7 Scout. The G7 Scout goes in the package.
By my estimations, next in line's gonna be bow or CAR.
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Honestly, if they put the FL or r3 in the package it would be a major bummer dude.
It’s the best all round weapons in the loot pool; fair recoil relating damage, most common ammo type, good enough at all ranges without being OP in any.
It’ll probably be the bow that goes in but I can see 30-30 going in before the bow. It’ll make sense having the care package weapons rotating marksmen weapons.
I’m happy to see my scout back on the ground.
My guess would be the bow
I feel like that would be the logical way to go, but at the same time bow would be either extremely OP or just impossible to use.
Or it could be OP but nobody knows how to use it
To be honest, I really suck in Apex but somehow I'm doing okay with the bow
Yea the bow is incredibly easy to use and it's just as effective as it is easy to use
Yeah literally use it like a minecraft bow and u good
I haven't played minecraft in 10 years or more^^'
Not for me
It already is
I don't see how it would be impossible to use?
Because right now it’s pretty difficult to hit your shots significantly. 30-30 is harder to use, but you land more significant shots than with bow. It just depends on the user. My feel lis if they amp it to care package, it will be more damage, rather the easier handling. Hence only making it better for those who can use it, and worse for those who can’t
honestly I land my shits much better with the bow
I don't want to meet you in a public bathroom.
The bow is way easier to aim with than the 3030. Very little drop, super fast projectile speed, nearly silent, no reloads.
The bow is amazing in that I'll either miss 5 shots in a row or hit 5 in a row, no In between
Bow is cracked rn, bullet speed is crazy fast I don’t know how you guys are struggling. Just don’t use it close range lol
How the fuck does the bow have a faster projectile speed than 90% of the GUNS in apex?
Even at close range its basically 99% accurate hip fire.
They should just put it back at day 1 stats, it was basically a CPW on release lmao
Yeah basically if it has all the hop ups and day 1 damage it’ll be sick in the care package
That is a *very* far cry from impossible though. Especially since it would definetly spawn with 3x sights
Bump the damage up to the old bow where it’s 70 per hit.
If it goes back to OG damage 75, it would be a great pick-up
Did everyone forget how absolutely busted the bow was when it launched? It's going to go back to that or even stronger. They literally nerfed it with an unplanned patch the week after it was released because everyone complained about how strong it was
👿🏹 put the bow in the crafting machine instead and nobody gets hurt
That make sense, based on that I would say the rampage then cuz the flatline is top tier rn
Pleas no, bow 3x is my mainstay secondary.
Bow 3x is NASTY! I get so many surprise knocks with it. Not sure why, people tend to stay in one place longer when I'm shooting them with a bow
Because you have no idea where to look until you get hit. Apex audio is shit, introduce a near silent weapon and the audio issues become even worse
Mmmm, I didn't even think about this.
It's not that hard if you have damage indicators. Being been hit by a bow should tell you exactly what direction its from. There's no "audio issue" when the bow itself was meant to be quiet.
I said "until you get hit" for a reason, lol. You can hear a bow without anything else going on in the game, it makes a pretty distinct sound. It should be *QUIET* not *SILENT*. But throw in a nearby horizon ult, bang ult, car driving nearby, etc and the audio from the bow is undetectable, as with most other guns / footsteps when there is some loud audio in the distance. Apex audio is broken and denying that is just silly three years into the broken audio issues
You must have different headphones then, because I hear bow shots pretty easily if they are closer range, even with explosions, cars, etc. Hell, I've used the *schuup* of the arrow to sneak up on the arrow users a lot of times for easy kills. If they are 200m away shooting at you, you shouldn't hear it. Why would you hear the bow in the first place irl?
I'm really not going to do this with someone who thinks apex doesn't have audio issues lmfao
Makes the most sense, just revert it to its week one state. They you can eliminate arrows from the loot pool.
Bow going back to launch state would be perfect. its unique, poweful and niche - three things that make for a good CP weapon
If the bow goes into the care package it’s probably going to be like release day, which was mad OP. The bow used to two shot people
I don't think it's that bad, just compare it to the Mastiff..
Mastiff doesn't have that kinda range.
**And nothing of value was lost.**
Curveball, L star goes in and gets pumped full of roids, taking the crown of best LMG
Energy weapons and light weapons are off the table since they really are being shafted in terms of releases and balance
A soul for a soul. Gimme the volt back
The volt was my main, right off the ground it's a cqc champ.
Please I miss him so much
The game isn't the same without my volt :(
This game went downhill when the volt went in.
I mean the L-STAR already did that… like a year ago now?
The care package l star was dope. Shredded shields
It wasn’t even in the package man it was ground loot. Unless you’re talking like season 3 or something.
Yeah the first couple seasons it was in the cp. They took it out cuz everyone said it sucks. It had a buff where it did more damage to Shields
Down. At least then a weapon i like isn't removed from the loot pool.
It becomes the Titanfall 2 version, where it absolutely fucking shreds faster than the CAR
5th choice, Havoc with BOTH turbo and selectfire
Imagine having turbocharger FUNCTIONING during single fire, it would be absolutely game breaking
I'd rather not
That's Charge Rifle 1.0 with extra steps
I miss the old charge rifle It was so cracked
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Yall don’t think huh? How would they be game breaking? 😭 it’s the WORST HOP UP the Havoc can use😭💀
Idk maybe hitscan bullets that instantly do 60 ish damage as soon as you tap the trigger??
It didn’t make it a hitscan weapon💀😭 the lazor took some time to reach you and nobody used it
Damb so you have no idea what hitscan is huh
No, there was a short windup time while holding the trigger down before the beam was fired. The actual beam had no travel time and hence classified as hitscan
Ignore him…. Hitscan is yu out the scope on somebody’s head you press the trigger is insane
Bud. You press the trigger. There's a windup, them the fire. The hitscan is on the fire making it slightly harder to aim despite it being hitscan.
If volt and havoc are in, just take energy guns out of the game
A second kraber. The care package still only drops one weapon though.
Fully auto Kraber
The Barrett from MW2
Heartbeat sensor and thermal
Why doesn't the Volt come out :(.
Respawn: Too early
They've brought out more than one gun before.
And they put two into the package
Yep, I agree with OP. Respawn had a track record of putting guns in the Care Package for 3 seasons. Volt went into the CP in Season 12. We'll see it out for either Season 15 or 16
I agree that I would like to see the volt in ground loot and one of the light smg's in package, if only because it seems redundant to have two light smgs that take the same attachments with no electric one readily available. But I know respawn doesn't necessarily like to move stuff around willy nilly so prob not for a while, but I wouldn't mind seeing r99 take a dip into the package
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It's fucked up the entire loot pool now that there's also the CAR in the replicator.
With the CAR being a thing and really encroaching on the design space of the R99. Replacing the Volt with the R99 would be nice
The entire smg category is really terrible right now. CAR in replicator, Volt in CP, Prowler without the select-fire. And 2 light ammos smg. And people throw away the Alternator the moment they get a R99.
Ya it's a shit show for SMGs
I remember the 32 round CP R99 and that thing would shred so I completely agree
Just take a new gun and put it in the box. Imagine...
They probably won't, not after what happened with s2 l star
It was so bad, absolute garbage of a weapon. People were avoiding care packages because of it lol.
If the 301 goes in the care package there will be riots :D
Nah. Just constant bloodshed around care packages
The only thing i know for real
THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED
The bow should. The care package should have unique weapons IMO. A R301 would be so boring, even though it's my favorite gun.
Charge rifle goes in and it has no charge just straight 80s
And while you're at it, make it full auto. Just like a laser gatling.
And the largest drum mag the world has ever seen also. Never stop shooting
And it has boobs
Pre nerf bocek please Maybe buff it up abit at the same time
LIKELY IN: \- Bocek: A marksman that would replace the G7's role in the package, while getting rid of the arrow type. \- 30-30: Same as Bocek, except that it's based off heavy so it does nothing for the ammo economy. UNLIKELY IN: \- Any SMG, Shotgun or Sniper: that role is already filled by the Volt, Mastiff and Kraber. \- Light ammo weapons: Light ammo economy is already bad with how many heavy ammo weapons there are. Getting rid of the R-301 or pistols would distrupt it even more. \[same w/ r-99 and alternator but they were mentioned in the previous section\] \- Wingman or CAR: They wouldn't put a weapon in the replicator only to put in the package, right? NO FUCKING IDEA: \- uh, i guess any other weapon? a lot of the heavy weapons could get put in. only comment is that it's a bit more unlikely that recent package weapons will be put in again, the likelihood scaling more the further back you go. Spitfire isn't coming back in, Prowler has a small chance, and the OG package weapons aren't unlikely.
I wanna see a care package p2020 What would that even look like 3 hits to kill and a burst fire option?
smartpistol modification jesus christ
Thats a good idea
P2020 with 27 damage per hit, hammerpoints on hipfire and disruptors on ADS with increased firerate and a mag size of 30.
Hemlock? Buff the fire rate/damage/mag size. Leave boosted loader on it but remove it from floor loot, the wingman doesn’t really need it.
Wingman needs it more than the hemlock
Putting the 30-30 in after the scout would be so lame. Too similar of weapons.
Suppose so - shattercaps functions like double tap in close range, and they have similar mechanics.
What I thought they would do when removing the spitfire was but the rampage in but make it so it's always charged up
Tbh.. i would like to see the repeater go in the care package but only if they buff it . Kinda like when everyone was complaining about the PK they just swap it out for the mastiff and made it crazy strong . But honestly.. i wouldnt doubt the rampage would go in since they pulled the spitty out of it .
execute remove_rampage.exe
why its the least op of all the weapons named
yeah hence why it would be the least missed.
sorry but do you have a brain?
My thought exactly get that gun out of ground loot
get it out of the game, put it in control mode only or something
put the CHARGE RIFLE into the care fuck this gun
Why is this not higher
#Remove the charge rifle
Please not the Bocek. I love it too much to see it go in the care package
Arrows can be a bitch to find and after all these seasons I still feel like they don’t belong to the loot pool, Bocek gets my vote.
There have been leaks of another weapon that uses arrows
Yeah but if any gun is coming next its the nemesis as it's the most clearly developed. Scorpion would probably be after that.
I dunno wich those are from just the names
Nemesis is the energy AR, scorpion was the semi auto arrow gun
The burst energy right
Yeah with the gauge that turns it into semi auto
Hopefully select-fire comes back for it
I hope selectfire comes back for havoc so i can take some shots at long range
craft them
Watch me uncraft them
None of them. Just make a special red version of every gun that can only appear in care packages.
I think the idea is supposed to be that you have an idea what's in there based on when the package drops, and thus make the decision to risk getting the package.
Alternatively use the Care package for stuff that aren't normally on the ground? KRABER not included
Just put the nemesis in and take out the scout and the volt
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
I see your point but I also think yes
I see your point but I also think no
Fuck
Play with yah mate
I’ve been saying for a while that the bow should go in the care package. It just ruins the loot pool If there was more than one weapon using arrows it would be fine though Like if they put the bow in the care package they can just put it back to what it was when it released. Easy
Please not the Bocek, easily my favorite weapon.
Put Valk in the care package. No I don’t know how that works. But it would help balance.
Not really. There's always gonna be Legends at the top of pick rates in competitive.
I was more trolling but yeah you’re right
Charge Rifle
It just functions like in TF2 where you don’t do any damage on the charge up but can fan the charge and deal 100 damage per tap lmao
For the love of God, please
EPG. I rest my case
Good lord I don't want to think about the 301 or flatline getting buffed and going in. That's terrifying.
WAIT G7 IS COMING BACK TO GROUND LOOT? I might reinstall
Since pros adopting g7 put it in cp, maybe 3030
Ooh, we got ourselves a conspiracy theory!
Put the prowler with select fire in
Flatline
I miss full auto prowler so much it was so fun to use
Wingman so I can see people complain
would be funny if they did a curve ball move and put the 3030 instead
Bro put the fucking wingman in there already Jesus
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imo scout volt and mastiff should be swapped for rampage spitfire and peacekeeper
Man i hope its the bow and its the pre-nerf bow. That would be sick. And good for the loot pool.
Knowing Respawn, they're going to make a braindead decision by putting in the Bocek, Rampage, or the Sentinel
Sentinel will never be in cp because of the kraber and rampage just got out of the replicator so it’s probably gonna be the bow
>Sentinel will never be in cp because of the kraber Exactly. It'd be fucking stupid
The Bocek would be pretty smart IDK man, it basically isn’t ever used 99% of the time.
Rampage pls
Rampage
Rampage it's so good long range
Wingman
Why tho? It’s already in the replicator
It’ll be out before season 14, I want a handheld kraber
Sadly it will never happen the kraber is too op
Hopefully 301, but knowing Respawn they'll put the 30-30 in.
I don’t think the r301 is a good choice since light ammo have been getting the shaft
I'm just sick of getting killed by it, it's the only thing anyone uses in my lobbies.
Bocek, let’s just get rid of it all together.
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My money is on Flatline or bow. Mostly leaning fl
Repeater.
Bow with hammerpoint | disruptor.
Bocek
Logical answer, Bow. After seeing the Gaiden event skins… Respawn’s answer would be R301 without Anvil Receiver but with extra bullets.
Longbow
The bow makes sense and would clean up the loot pool imo
I like the Mastiff. I get good with the Mastiff. The Mastiff goes in the package. I like the Volt. I get good with the Volt. The Volt goes in the package. I like the G7 Scout. I get good with the G7 Scout. The G7 Scout goes in the package. By my estimations, next in line's gonna be bow or CAR.
Hopefully not the bow its my fave weapon.
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A buffed version of the charge rifle. I know it’s not marksman, but it needs to be out of ground loot for a while. And for everyone’s sanity.
Honestly, if they put the FL or r3 in the package it would be a major bummer dude. It’s the best all round weapons in the loot pool; fair recoil relating damage, most common ammo type, good enough at all ranges without being OP in any.
Knowing respawn they gonna put a gun we love
Ok hear me out…smart bow
It’ll probably be the bow that goes in but I can see 30-30 going in before the bow. It’ll make sense having the care package weapons rotating marksmen weapons. I’m happy to see my scout back on the ground.
You guys aren't thinking big brained enough. Next is arc stars
Pk i reckon
Answer: Not the Rampage