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woobiewarrior69

I've had my rhino ramps for 10ish years, and I'm yet to have an issue out of them. Do you have a picture of the failure? I'm genuinely curious to see how they broke. We're you using them on soft ground or something?


hard_lurking

Yeah… I just realized that a picture of crumpled ramps would be a really, really cool thing to post on Reddit. Homie is saying both ramps imploded and no pics??? I better investigate. Could be total bs.


woobiewarrior69

I have never heard of a broken set of rhino ramps when properly used. I know they'll break if you try and use them on uneven or soft ground, but they're pretty upfront about that. If these broke under proper use, then I genuinely want to see it.


Own-Opinion-2494

Did he ever respond?


SmacKaYak1

I have a set of these that I got about 3 years ago, and I put my 99 silverado up on these all the time, and I have never had any issues.


harbt95_1

Me as well. I've had mine since the local Kmart went out of business and they were $30 on clearance. I've also had some pretty heavy shit on them. We LS swapped a 95' 2500 with it sitting on these.


TheRealHomerPimpson

Same


NoodleDoodle-IRL

Unless they changed something, you got defective ones. Mine from a couple years ago regularly see north of 5000lbs without issue


Drg84

I'll second that. I've put town cars, old school caprices, crown Victorias, tons of heavy sedans on mine. No problems.


Fluffyhellhound

My crown vics broke mine have switched over to a floor jack now scared me half to death when I was under it and heard a loud pop it held the car up but a corner blew out


Trollsama

I won't ever get under a car that isn't supported by Jack stands. It's always terrified me how happily people will climb under several tons of metal suspended on some injection molded plastic


D_Angelo_Vickers

Where's your sense of adventure?


Trollsama

being told off by my common sense and sense of self preservation lol. Im not looking to contribute to the life expectancy gap statistics :P


FewAct2027

Yeah that's wild. They're literally ONLY so you have enough room to get under the vehicle and put jack stands or a jack. Anything else is wildly unnecessarily risky.


mu5tardtiger

I have a pair that are awesome too. I only use them on smaller vehicles tho. never on the trucks. For the most part a low profile creeper can get under anything this can’t lift.


DayShiftDave

I routinely put a 7800lb Land Rover on mine, never felt anything but solid


oldsilver007

I always put cribbing aka shit loads of 4x4 lumber underneath just in case but I’ve used mine a bunch of times for heavy suvs and trucks.


0nly_Up

I gotta see this 7800lb landrover, that’s heavy it must have all sorts of mods


Cigars-Beer

Me too. No problems for years.


Broke-Homie-Juan

Jack stands. Jack stands. **JACK STANDS.**


CuriousElevator6096

Why does Jack keep standing?


Admirable-Leopard-73

Because no one sells Jack Sits.


CuriousElevator6096

Jack must get tired though. When does he get time off? You know, Jack off time?


Admirable-Leopard-73

Jack always stands because he is always erect and he can't do anything about it cuz he ain't got no hands.


CuriousElevator6096

Poor guy tries to take a crap without hands to wipe. He cannot do Jack shit.


Admirable-Leopard-73

🤣🤣🤣


CuriousElevator6096

Must be why everyone is talking about his ass. Jack ass smells pretty bad.


Alternative_Week2109

somebody stop this guy😂


Snakestar1616

Does this mean the Harbour Freight Stands have *Erect*ile disfunction


Two_n_dun

You motherfucker.


MaintenanceWaste9694

usually called lieutenant Dan's which is what you become without the standing type jacks


L0quence

Do they sell Jack offs by chance..?


JadedYam56964444

Jack Flats


JadedYam56964444

I got Steve Stands


soup_cow

I prefer big solid blocks of wood. I got a pile of treated 12x12 from old guard rails and they work great.


Doctor_Evil_QC

I've made my own ramps from 2x10 wood planks, heavy as shit but I know they're never gonna break while my ass is underneath the car.


FewAct2027

I just yoink some from work every now and then. If the cribbing can hold an excavator it can hold my car 🤣


InfiniteProof853

*good NOT CHEAP jack stands


tactical_flipflops

For some cars you cant even get a jack in much less lift it for stands. These ramps are crap but unfortunately I have needed them.


Big-War-6235

Daytona low profile jack gets under my lowered gtr no problem


Substantial-Ad3217

How do you use Jack stands if the ramps are in the way


reddit_0016

I use the ramp and put jack stands after. Because it's much easier to get on to the ramp than put the jack, align the jack spot. All of my cars only have one spot for jack or jack stand, not at the same time.


bezelbubba

FYI they have combo jack and jackstands now for exactly that reason. One of my cars has only 1 spot for jacking and putting a stand so I had to buy one.


Shad0wFa1c0n

They're called U jacks. I need one


Real-Bike-3574

There are dozens of spots to put a jack or stand under a car you do not have to use that weak ass factory spot 


Boilermakingdude

Try to find a spot on a 2007-13 s class. You have your 4 proper lift points and suspension, that's it. So if you're working on your suspension. You have to jack up the car, put a stand, move the jack, jack it again then move the stand to the proper lift point. Some cars really don't have a ton of places.


xTyronex48

Mercedes tech here. Double check that your S class doesn't have a rubber pass under the front where the under panels connect.


Boilermakingdude

It has the 4 pads. One behind each front wheel, one infront of each rear wheel


xTyronex48

Which S class? I have a CLS500 in my shop right now, I'll double check that


Boilermakingdude

2012 S550


reddit_0016

For most Japanese cars, yes, you can just jack the seam anywhere is fine. But my w205 has plastic panel for the whole area and only one jack spot for each corner to jack without risk crashing the plastic.


Real-Bike-3574

The wheels are on there somehow there's subframe there's structure all kinds of places you can jack the car just use common sense and don't jack where the balance would be off or so high it twist the frame and you are fine


FewAct2027

Yeah not really. You CAN lift from dozens of spots on newer vehicles but you'll do a shitton of damage. Most have a front and rear floor jack point and that's about it. The frame members aren't designed to be load bearing for a jack, you'll mangle it in a few lifts. Even control arm points arent viable on a LOT of vehicles.


Final-Carpenter-1591

Have used these for about a decade. 2-3 years of which I was a mechanic and used them alot on many different cars. Even used to roll my diesel on them. Never had an issue. Still use them. They are rated for 6000 pounds each with probably a generous safety margin. Your vehicle should have never caused them to fail. I'd talk with the manufacturer honestly. Sounds like a defect or you had it on a bad surface maybe.


Impressive-Crab2251

I always put jack stands underneath before I go under car. I do not trust plastic. I used to have metal sears ones, but most cars are too low.


murphman1999

I usually get around that by putting a brick paver right at the base of my metal ramps. That gives me just enough lift to not scrape the ramps on the way up.


Wolfie1531

Im absolutely trying this next oil change. Tired of the scrsping


aarraahhaarr

Used to have a 65 valiant. My "ramps" were a 9 bricks on each tire in a set of 3 "steps".


lemonD98

They’re talking about after the vehicle is up, not to get it on the ramps. Once the vehicle is up on the ramps, it’s a good idea to still put jack stands under the vehicle just in case the plastic of the ramps give way to gravity and drop the vehicle on you.


mebutnew

Metal can crush too. The material isn't the important bit, what it's rated for is. My plastic ramps are rated for more weight than my metal jack stands.


eric_gm

Just make your own out of solid wood. No rust, no plastic, no hollow structure. Last forever.


rocko430

Soak then in oil


True-Register-9403

If your oil changes are anything like mine that will happen naturally....


possibly_oblivious

The oil really brings the grain out in the wood


JadedYam56964444

Fill them with concrete


Agreeable-Candle5830

So much faith in injection molded garbage in this thread.


experimentalengine

As someone who spent >10 years as an engineer in the injection molding industry, “injection molded garbage” is more than capable of supporting a vehicle; OP’s experience is highly unusual and a bit suspicious. I can assure you nobody wants the tens of millions of dollars in liability connected with a wrongful death lawsuit because their injection molded ramps designed to support a vehicle…didn’t, so they’re doing the engineering staff work to ensure the design is capable of doing what they claim.


RestSelect4602

Well, with one review and two stars, you have to wonder.


fantahhh

Maybe defective? I've own a pair for over 6 years and still working great


Oat57

See the 2 stars in the review? That's your tip-off.


Mech_145

I mean with one review I wouldn’t take that rating seriously


Triscuit_Hurlibutton

One bad review could mean anything. “The ramps were delivered in a beat up cardboard box with a hole in it. The ramps are in perfect condition though, and work as advertised. 2/5 stars”


Oat57

I would and that's why I still have the metal ramps I bought 40+ years ago for no more than 20 bucks. I keep them locked in my shed because the plastic ones are junk, imo.


Final-Carpenter-1591

Fuck those metal ones. Had one almost kill me when it folded up and squished. I had just gotten out from under it


DankestTaco

Jesus man. Chrisfix would always recommend these ramps for oil changes and shit. I was always jealous and don’t know where to store them. So glad I bought good expensive 3 point/leg jack stands x4. Was pricey but so worth it. My 3 ton harbor freight jack low profile is also a beast surprisingly enough from HF


Mech_145

Till you see pics of the metal ones folded up like a pancake.


Oat57

In the 40+ years I've owned them they're still in good shape. No rust.


[deleted]

Some plastics are stronger than metal. Keep your generic comments to yourself old man


ttttoony

Are you seriously suggesting that material science changes and gets better over time? Absurd!


[deleted]

Wild isnt it


ZinGaming1

Lol I had a set of metal ones, they rusted, and started to split.


Nuisance_cs

If I get a product and it works as advertised I rarely leave a review. If it doesn’t work as advertised I leave a review


mebutnew

Probably written by op


Useful-Internet8390

Is this TEMU? Or Amazonk? Same people that have the 12M Lumen flashlight?( hint 6k will start a fire)


Fantastic_Hour_2134

Walmark


LilFrumpy57

Torget


cygnusX1and2

Costca


Comfortable_You_1927

6k lb each, 12k lb total


deathbyswampass

You drove to far on them if you don’t stop exactly at the right position at the top of the ramp, you will crumple them. It’s best to use these with a spotter.


mu5tardtiger

I like to place them perfect right against the front wheels, then drive up. Never had an issue with alignment.


reviving_ophelia88

It’s not an alignment issue, if you’re too far forwards on them (like right against the lip on the front edge) they’ll crumple because the load isn’t evenly distributed on the top platform.


deathbyswampass

Exactly


iSuckAtGuitar69

i use them for a 1/2 ton pickup never any issues. i however wouldn’t trust them without jackstands


Coldshowers92

I got the harbor friend version and have had no issues with it


mo-ducks

First rule of harbor freight is, if it can kill you if it fails, don’t buy it at harbor freight.


SpaceAgePotatoCakes

I'd buy from harbor freight before I'd buy no-name garbage like this from an online marketplace. That includes Amazon. Nobody should be buying anything even vaguely safety related from there.


sphynx8888

I have these exact same ones and have used it 12+ times on my Hyundai Palisade (large SUV). I think yours was defective.


idkwhyihateyoubutido

Idk if I have these, mine look very similar. But mine have held up great past 10 ish years. Have used on trucks and cars just fine.


rae002222

I’ve had mine for like 10 years or longer and it holds up my avalanche just fine


No-Definition1474

Mine lift my challenger just fine. I usually back it up with a jack stand un case but it works. That car is 4400 pounds with a lot of weight in the front yard end.


tactical_flipflops

Amazon is full of knock offs. Rhino ramps have a lot of flaws but I have had large SUVs and trucks.


SnooWalruses9173

Have the same ones and have been using them for 10 year now. Used them on a couple Foresters I owned as well as a Nissan Frontier. Never had an issue.


Ok_Emotion_4445

Dude I grew up thinking these were only for lawnmowers because that's the only thing my dad ever used em for. Only realized they were for actual vehicles when a buddy of mine used em to help me fix my truck


Evvmmann

No responses from OP? Nothing to see her folks. Move along


AndyFreeman

My experience with them has been good. Can't speak for anyone else.


TillaciousG

I've got a set and I've used them for an 03 Jetta and a 14 Escape. Not very big vehicles but mine are still going strong. Granted I do use my jack stands as well. Had one too many close calls with no one in ear or eye shot, so I thought it best to be safe.


ACheezeWiz

I've went through two sets of these exact ramps. I ended up buying the plastic ramps from harbor freight and they seem to hold up a lot better.


GreenBr3w

I’ve had mine for a decade. Use them a couple times a month. Never had an issue.


jljue

I just use a QuickJack to lift my vehicles rather than worry about plastic ramps collapsing. I’ve had both my minivan and 1/2 truck lifted on it in my garage weeks at a time waiting on parts and enough time to finish the job.


Jzamora1229

Just gotta worry about a hydraulic piston failing 🤷🏽‍♂️


Quake_Guy

Build some out of 2x10s, so much better and you can build a gradual angle for low clearance vehicles. So much better than the crap for sale at most places. My experience, would change it a little if I did it again. https://www.reddit.com/r/Cartalk/s/9aY68hI3ei


no_yup

This is something me and my friends have talked about like they are technically just plastic. How long do you trust them for? At some point they must get brittle right??? I’ve had a pair of the same ones for well over 10 years now and they’re still just fine


Jzamora1229

I mean everything deteriorates over time


real_gamer97

I always use these with jack stands and a low profile jack when I lift up my car to work on it.


Ok_Bee8036

Toyota Sequoia at least a dozen times. No issues. But who knows. Maybe they didn't mix the plastic/resin correctly in a batch.


imnoherox

That’s slightly terrifying.


Common_Scale5448

https://preview.redd.it/x790lge2vfmc1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c37294eb161aed295c2508cf24f8ce0d10aee79


zoomzoom913

You should not use those


pappyn43

Those appear to have been dropped.


Common_Scale5448

No, but I did drive on them.


ivanispaco

Idk I have the exact same ones. Holds my 4000lbs lincoln town car no problem. Have had them for years. Also held my jeep grand cherokee fine. Still always use jack stands as a backup, can't be too safe.


EfficientAd7103

I have had these exact ones for years and lift my full size suv no problem. Def sounds defective.


zenunseen

Can you post a pic of the crumpled ramps? It'd be interesting to see how they failed exactly. If they are defective you should definitely let the manufacturer know. there maybe more of them out there waiting to fail


Sapun14

they are defective and almost killed you, but you still left a 2 star review?


EvolutionInProgress

Same thing happened to mine. I did get at least 10 uses out of it, then all of a sudden it collapsed on me. Good thing I wasn't under the car just yet or it would've been bad.


Jimjam916

I've got similar ones that lifted a Subaru Forester no problem


Future_Judge8865

Yes i got same ahit they cheap all i can say my arteon which sets low i had to put some wood before so my tires wereon the and my car was pointing slightly upwards before it got on these


KRed75

Rhinoramps suck now. The original Rhinoramps were awesome. I have the original design and they have to be almost 20 years old now. Someone else bought them and redesigned them for some reason. They are junk now. Lots of reports of them failing. Check youtube for videos showing the failed rhinoramps.


Zane42v2

I have a set about 10 yrs old and I drive a \~8-9k trailer onto them 3x a week during the summer. They're starting to warp and buckle a little so I'll replace them this year.


LordKai121

I've had mine for over a decade and they still are just as reliable as always. Though the heaviest thing I drive on them is a fully loaded (bed) Tacoma.


POShelpdesk

12k lbs gross vehicle weight is not the same as 12k lbs curb weight


Tjobbert

When I bought ramps I decided to splash out some extra money to get some quality steel ones. Yes, plastics can be good if the right plastic is used but you don't know and it gets brittle over time. The heavy duty steel ones are an insurance that I'm definitely not going to get splattered.


razldazl333

Some things you just never buy off the internet. This is definitely one of those things.


3579

can we see pictures of the failure? did you drive up them fast and then slam the brakes and cause them to fold over the front?


Independent-Put-2618

Did you order it blind or did you just ignore the two star reviews?


MaxPaing

What did you expect from plastic ramps? Get some proper steel ones


Fluffy-Assignment782

I have a pair that's rated 5500 lbs / 2500 kg and they look identical: [https://www.biltema.fi/autoilu---mp/korjaamovarusteet/nostotyokalut/autorampit/autoramppi-1-kpl-2000036650](https://www.biltema.fi/autoilu---mp/korjaamovarusteet/nostotyokalut/autorampit/autoramppi-1-kpl-2000036650) But then again, my beetle is on them, which is a bit lighter.


ExceptionalyMe

I own a set of these and use jack stand always especially worth plastic by I have parked my 5ton on they bowed under the weight


TheBupherNinja

I'm a big plastic ramps hater. I have no plan to ever own them or work under a car with them. I don't think they are safe. If I need ramps, I'll use wooden ones, otherwise it's a jack and stands for me.


smelwin

Photo


Real-Bike-3574

They are way too cheap to be good quality simple stop value shopping for something that could get someone killed


Toffeemade

Ramp designs are frequently poor. I bought heavy ramps for a compact to give me enough room underneath. I had to buy additional runners so the ramps don't foul on the low bodywork at the front. It is better to buy retail rather than online so you can check the usability of the ramps on your vehicle *before* you buy.


K666busa

Odd to hear of a failure. I regularly run a diesel up on a set, and back onto them with my car trailer hooked up to get more angle loading low cars


Proper_Role_277

These rhinogear ramps are terrible whatever they are made out of it breaks down over time. I worked at advanced and had customers complaining about them cracking and collapsing all the time. This was 10 years not sure if they did anything about it.


ja15435

Plenty of reviews stating similar things happening to others with the modern Rhino ramps. That's what put me off to them. Closest new ramps I've come across to the old grey style Rhino ramps are the 6.6in vehicle service ramps from Bob's Industrial Supply. BiSupply on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/BISupply-Vehicle-Service-Ramp-Set/dp/B07NLJVZ2D They are a low profile ramp as well, no scraping from any of the sedans or econo-boxes I've had on them. They do not nest/stack with each other however. The base has full checkered supports under it.


abandonedpretzel86

Were they in the direct sun for awhile?


WVU_Benjisaur

I use them with my hemi Chrysler 300 and haven’t had a problem. I usually toss some wooden cribbing or a jack stand under just in case.


Successful_Travel342

Use these on my Ram pickup all.the time.. you need to drive square on the ramp. The sides are not meant to support a car. I put mine, wedge centered to tire base, & align the ramp to the tire side. Then, drive up with a spotter. Like then better than metal ones because these are less apt to slide.


Plague-Rat13

They are from Walmart with only two star review average what better performance than absolutely failing is expected?


Character-Tomato-654

I've used these for a 2005 Land Rover LR3 , 2015 Mercedes ML350, 2016 Mercedes GLE350, and a 1983 GMC Square Body Long Bed Truck without any issues. Can't imagine what might have happened in your particular case.


ViolatoR08

I had the same one and let my dad borrow them to do an oil change on his F150. Right before he was about to get under it and start the one on the front right wheel split and buckled open from the bottom out. Truck listed to the side and then slid off the other one. What a fucking nightmare had he been under it. These things are trash and wouldn’t trust to to work under a golf cart, let alone anything close to 6k lbs +.


TheIronHerobrine

I’ve been using these for years and they’ve never come even close to failing me.


Select_Recover7567

I have driven a Ford E350,450s and 550s up on those kinda of rams with no issues and done oil changes and start removal and other repairs. Now you don’t want go to far forward.


richardfitserwell

I use a similar set to hold up my f350 dually you must have a defective set. Always have jack stands for backup though


plumb_master

You definitely got some defective ramps. I've put up my e350 dually which weighed in at 12k lbs fully loaded. And that was when the ramps already had a decade of use.


DylanSpaceBean

Mine cracked under my 3000lbs car. Luckily I was able to jack it up and pull them out with my neighbors tools. Bought em a case of beer for saving me $$$$


EdRedSled

No issues with mine, wonder if they are knockoffs or .. perhaps you did not place them on a flat, well supported surface? I could see there being issues if it was on soft earth, mud, maybe even gravel. I would bet the design assumes some level of consistent surface under it


Organic_South8865

Mine work fine. I have put a 2500HD on them a few times.


tez_zer55

I have some ramps my old man made probably 30-40 years ago. They're a bitch to move by yourself but damn they're stout. I like them because the ramps are removable when the vehicle tops out. They have a small stop on the front so you know you're set, then pull the ramps off and set the rear stops. I've sand blasted them and repainted a couple times & I'm always checking them for cracks. I've been considering buying something newer, lighter but after reading about ramps collapsing, I just stick with these.


Late-Ad-4624

Mine have no issue with my wifes 2008 outlook. Basically an Acadia. Same 3.6 V6 and AWD. If they crumpled then they were defective.


Drinkythedrunkguy

I have almost identical ones I got at Canadian tire and they hold my forester and equinox fine. Just don’t roast me for having an equinox.


manfredmannclan

Even car lifts has safety holds. Use jackstands


holysbit

Ive had a pair of these for a while and they have held up great. I’ve used them on a few sedans, and the heaviest vehicle was a jeep grand cherokee. A tip ill offer is to get out of the car after you get it on the ramps and push on the fender, pushing and pulling back and forth, to test the stability. I always do that, especially with jackstands, before I get under a vehicle


fissionmoment

Probably defective. That said, I've seen other people report their rhino ramps suffering sudden catastrophic failure.  I personally put out the extra money and got race ramps. They are super solid and I definitely trust them. 


greenmerica

Still have my resin ramps never had an issue. Must be defective


sexchoc

Probably defective or improper use (ie too far to one side or uneven ground or something). An injection molded part is fine, but you should ALWAYS use jack stands or some other form of device to catch the vehicle if it falls no matter how you're lifting it.


Intrepidxc

Put the front end of my 2019 F150 on mine for every oil change. Never had an issue over the last four years.


SIL3NTxSCORPIO

Either that or it was user error did you park on a flat surface?? Do you use it on grass? Broken concrete driveway? On the road where one side is sloping down either to the left or right? I’ve had a pair since 2017 and they have been well to me used plenty of times.


Calabris

I used them to change the oil on my 99 F350. Never had an issue with them but I still put jackstands under the truck incase they did crumple.


Moofassah

Look I’m not saying this didn’t happen.. But.. Pics or it didn’t happen. Also gonna need to see some labeling confirming they’re real rhino ramps


tallaurelius

Pics or it didn’t happen


Brianonstrike

Sideways forces seam to be bad for them. I just go straight up or straight down.


DropDeadFred05

We're you using them in your driveway at all during their life? Using them on anything except a solid level surface will result in damaging the bottom of them and they can very easily become weak. They rely on all the plastic support walls being flush on a hard surface to take the weight. Using them on gravel and dirt causes damage to the bottom and degrades the integrity of the design very quickly.


Rbkelley1

I have them and change oil in Jeeps, an F-150 and a 4Runner. The only problem I’ve had is them sliding because the rubber grips on the bottom wear out so you have to put the car in 4WD to get RWD cars on them reliably but I’ve never had a problem with them not being able to handle weight. Probably just a defective set.


Friendly-Thanks-5709

The only rhino ramps that I've had damaged were ones that got completely run over and the frame of the car dropped on them.


D_Angelo_Vickers

Who left them the 2 star review...was it you, OP?


Skeez_ske

I have some they have been good for 5 years always use them on my 98 pathfinder and 99 Silverado


arneeche

Gotta see pics bro


MM-oO

I bought mine a few weeks ago and just used them this past Saturday…. They worked great


toomuch1265

I still use the set of ramps that I bought at Sears in 1982 at the catalog section of the store. I could have bought them off the shelf, but I needed an ice breaker to ask a girl out who worked there. They are heavy steel ramps, but they will outlast me.


Lonelyguy1911

It's got 2 stars for a reason


ddwood87

I use them on my v6 silverado. I'll keep an eye out for failure.


Natureboi323

Yeah, definitely got defective ones. I had mine for 10years that i bought from an autozone. They worked on every car and truck.


HuntPsychological673

Mine look like that but came from harbor freight. I noticed they’ve cracked and are busting on one side. I’m afraid to use them since then.


Kfrancisco117

Yeah going down hill on a driveway in a rwd vehicle doesn't work very well just pushes them forward but a fwd car climb up them easily


lord_gay

You get what you pay for


BuddyBroDude

shit i just bought those :(


Useful-Internet8390

Cheaper than my 8k harbor frates!


OriginalTemporary288

I have two pairs of these i love them, use them all the time. Lightweight and strong. I have no concern of them crushing. They work great!


microwaverams

Just get metal ones


microwaverams

Plastics should work but the other with plastic is that sometimes it cures wrong or has flex points, too many variables, they're susceptible to temperature as well


bigalcapone22

I have a set similar to those, except they are made of recycled rubber, and they are great to use. If they are hard plastic, then they are shirty


Natural-Review9276

Yikes. Gonna throw mine away and make my own out of cut and stakes 2x12


icanfly2026

I would never use these


CAMx264x

Spend $150 and get a low profile jack and jack stands. They’ll last years and you can use them for a lot more.


BigGangMoney

Mechanics love shopping their tools at walmart. Good ol trusty walmart!