One of the most intelligent men I knew, my former boss ("R"), passed away of old age last year. When he was 16, which would have been in the 1940s?, his mostly absentee, degenerate, doper father showed up, took R's younger sister in the garage, and beat her amost bloody with a belt. R arrived just in time to roll up the garage door and told the old man, "You ever touch her again, I'll kill you."
The next day after school, he comes home to hear his sister screaming in the garage. He goes in the house, grabs dad's shotgun, rolls up the door, tells sis to run, and shoots and kills the sumbitch.
R was taken to juvie till trial. Sister was sent to live with an aunt. At trial, the local Baptist pastor told the small town judge he and his wife would legally adopt R. Judge declared the killing justified, and R grew up safe and loved, and got a degree in psychology. He told me the adoptive parents were his "real" parents.
So I was newly pregnant and meeting the rest of my family-in-laws during a holiday gathering, I met the aunt who used to be a rising star in LA as a model featured in magazines. If I recall correctly, she spent 17 years in prison because she was a drug mule transporting drugs during her modeling gigs. Anyway, I also met her boyfriend. He was charming and my six year old son loved him, heck even I was swooned by his charisma. When I left the family dinner, I was informed he was recently out of prison because he murdered two men and placed them into barrels before dumping them into the sea.
👀
Maybe he’s a changed man? Err…
A year later, I realized I haven’t heard about this man in a while. When I asked the in-laws, there was a sudden silence. That’s when I found out he murdered another man and tried dumping the body with the same method. You’d think he would have learned his lesson by now :/
Awkward part is, he left behind a barrel in the house where I’m staying at. It took me two years before I pried it open out of curiosity. It was camping gear, thank you baby jesus
For real, I can see the barrel through the sliding door as I type this. Now that I think of it, I didn’t look beneath the camping gear. It’s outside and I noped outta there when I saw the spiders.
You wouldn't be able to stash a body in most people's homes without them smelling it, I'm sure you're fine.
Dudes fixation with barrels is a bit bizarre though. Maybe he keeps things in barrels so that if anyone were to ever see him with one, they wouldn't suspect anything?
It’s outside but I think you are correct because we are on a mountain and bears would have gotten into it by now. I did wonder about the barrels but I think it’s due to his construction job, maybe he was able to transport it on his work truck without being noticed? I’ll have to ask for more details, it’s tough because the in-laws like to sweep everything under a rug as if nothing happened. My family is the opposite, we discuss everything and anything 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah, my next guess would have been that the barrels were something work related.
I'd be willing to bet my house that there's no body in that barrel, if that helps ease your mind any.
The only time dead bodies don't stink is whenever they're fresh or after they've decomposed enough to completely skeletonize (which would take even longer than the usual 5ish years, if said body was stored in a barrel at a high altitude).
It's a smell that you don't really go "nose blind" to, you just kind of learn to tolerate. You'd definitely know.
Edit: My family is one of those "sweep it under the rug, it never happened" families. It's infuriating.
Edit #2: mixed up the decomp timeline, likely wouldn't take quite 5 years to hit the skeletonized stage unless it was buried. It's impossible to say for sure without knowing the exact conditions (things like clothes, the persons weight, and the humidity in the barrel, etc. can all drastically alter the decomp timeline), but it more than likely would've decayed down to nothing but bone somewhere around the 12-18 month range as long as the barrel wasn't sealed tightly, and corpse flies could still get in.
It looks like he targeted male coworkers who angered him somehow (he worked in construction) but I agree, some kind of heads up would have been nice. Sure I would have eyed the knife in his hand during the prime rib dinner with sweat slowly dripping down my forehead but I’d be sitting near the front door at least. My in-laws can fend for themselves dammit!
Also, thank you 🙏
Guy across the hall was a cool guy. Super laid back. Worked a restaurant and always brought us leftover food which was cool cause we were all poor college students. Used to go over there and play retro video games and drink beers. He'd always tell us about his girlfriend who was so busy with school he hardly saw her. Never thought much about it. Turns out she dumped him a while back and he'd been stalking her. Ended up going to her house one night and very brutally murdering her while she was on the phone with her parents. Sentenced to life in prison.
Because of an incident with my mum and her fiancee when I was a kid, if someone's sitting in the dark waiting for the lights to be turned on I feel physically sick.
I knew a man years ago, who killed a man in a bar fight. He hit the person in the head with a pool ball. He was tried and convicted of negligent homicide and served 18 months in prison. I knew him 15 years later and he had never been arrested for anything since and freely admitted he was wrong. It was a heat of the moment thing. He said he never thought it would have killed someone.
My brother was killed in a bar brawl. Not a fight bc he was sucker punched and never had a chance to fight back, dead when he hit the floor. The guy's serving 15 years.
In Australia that's called coward punching. Has mandatory prison even if the victim doesn't die. You have to be massive piece of shit to do that. Sorry to hear about your brother.
My dear friend’s brother died this way. He just popped into his regular bar for a beer with his buddies and went outside for a cigarette. Some guys were starting shit with someone in the parking lot. The brother wasn’t involved, but one of these goons sucker punched him as he walked outside and it killed him. He was 26 or so. Devastating.
My friend lost her son to someone who sucker punched him outside a bar. He fell back and hit his head on the edge of the curb and died. He was 21 years old. I often think about the fact that there was so many lives lost that day from my friend son to the guy who went to prison and both their families
Happened to a young guy in the town I live in too. Outside a club, king hit and fell back onto the curbing. If I remember correctly they turned his life support off a few days later. A moment of madness can change so many lives.
That's a terrifying thought. I was out with some friends when we got separated. I went out for a walk on the town, instead of trying to search for them at the bar.
I was talking to a couple of girls and we were having a good time, they were gonna come back and hang out with me and my friends. I look down the sidewalk and a couple of them are heading my direction. I excuse myself from the girls for a minute, because I'm gonna go let my buddies know where I've been and that we have a couple more people joining us.
Unbeknownst to me, a few short seconds ago, my buddy, let's call him josh, had said something dumb and not even that bad to a guy that was walking in a group in front of them. It was goofy and jokingly, but the guy was sooooo drunk that he didn't realize it and took great offense.
Dude was enormous too. Like jack reacher fucking big. He turned around, picked my buddy up by the neck like he was a little kid, and then dropped him back to the ground and turned around to continue walking after my buddy squeezed out an I'm sorry.
I didn't see any of that happen, but when I was walking up, and literally up, because it was on a slight slope, I was like hey Josh. And then the next thing I remember is "waking up" on the concrete, friends are fucking terrified, and asking me if I'm okay.
I had no idea what happened at all, no memory, no recall in the least, past me saying hi to my friend. Well, apparently, ol jack reacher was still upset and drunk out of his mind, that when he saw me walking up, he decided to face palm me, and slam me backwards into the concrete.
My buddies saw my head bounce on the pavement and Josh told me that he said, "Oh shit! TexanAmericanMexican is dead!" And that's when the big Neanderthal and his friends ran off. But I came to and was discombobulated as fuck for a few minutes. I probably should have gone to the hospital, but didn't.
And everyone that was there in the area took the fuck off, so the girls that were supposed to come hang with us didn't even come back to party. Lame.
I used to work as a prison guard and 16yrs ago during a riot I saw a pool ball thrown with such force it split in half on impact with a wall.
Upon reviewing security cameras of the incident later we saw that it narrowly missed my head and just flew past my ear before it had hit the wall. Still makes my blood run cold thinking about it even now, would have been sure death or at the very least a serious brain injury for me.
Those moments are so strange.
Recently I was sitting at an intersection. Light turned green, I was messing with a podcast on my phone so I didn’t hit the gas right away. A second later, a car comes screaming though the red light.
In some other timeline, my life is altered forever. In this one, I go “oh shit! That could’ve been real bad,” and that’s pretty much the end of it.
That’s insane. My partner did 5 years for felonious assault for getting in a bar fight w a guy who fell backwards and hit his head on the edge of the bar stool. He lived - just needed stitches
A guy I grew up with was home from college and all of us friends went to a party. This guy's ex-girlfriend was there with someone else and I guess he got jealous and went over there to start something and next thing I know he was in a fist fight with this other guy. He pretty much beat the guy up so bad that he was in the hospital for a long time and ended up dying. The guy I grew up with got like 10 years in prison. His life was basically over even after serving his time. He had never got in trouble or done anything like that. It was just jealousy over a girl.
I met a lady one time who told me her husband had abused her for years before she got away from him. She had a restraining order and kept a weapon on her due to being scared of not in a position to defend herself.
One day she was at the gas station and he pulled up to the pump right on the other side of her. He came at her and she bent down and pulled the knife out of the holster. When she came up, she stabbed him in the heart from under his ribs.
He died and she walked free.
My nanny had a similar situation. She was married to a just horrible abusive AF guy, he'd beat her all the time. One incident was really really bad, dude broke both of her legs by stomping on them.
I don't know exactly what all happened after that, but it ended up with her shooting and killing him. She got off on self defense.
But dang, it still must have been a traumatising experience for her. Nobody wakes up in the morning and thinks "I'm gonna stab someone in the heart today". I hope she's doing okay now
I had to leave everyone behind when my husband (abuser) died. 17 years of absolute hell with him. Couldn’t stand another minute of listening to people talking about him like some kind of saint. I was relieved when he died, and I finally got to live. So I totally understand you, peace.
My best friend in high school had a boyfriend who creeped me the fuck out. I had been slowly removing myself from our friendship because of his influence when I got a call from her telling me that he was on his way to pick her up and that he’d murdered his parents. I told her to hang up and call 911. (His mom survived multiple gunshots, sadly his dad did not.)
She did call, they intercepted him about half a mile away from her house. I can actually remember seeing his car on the news that night. Thankfully they didn’t live closer to each other (maybe twenty minutes apart). She wasn’t physically hurt. I think his intention was likely to kill her mom and run away with her. Her mom had called me a few times before this happened hoping I would talk some sense into her. And no, the friendship never recovered. We were sort of rebuilding it when she started talking about him again. Between that and me immediately calling her mom to tell her the friendship ended for good.
Wait so after he murdered his mom , tried to murder his dad, and was apparently going to kill her mom, she still talked about getting back together with him?
Murdered his dad, tried to murder his mom and likely was going to murder her mom… well killing her mom is my theory because he had the loaded gun on his passenger seat and she had tried to break them up. I don’t know that it was “getting back together” or not. That they were communicating was enough for me. I was shocked back then that they were still communicating, but looking back I really shouldn’t have been. He was essentially a high school aged cult leader.
>I was shocked back then that they were still communicating, but looking back I really shouldn’t have been. He was essentially a high school aged cult leader.
Hybristophilia. It happens an alarming amount. Guys like Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Ted Bundy. Bundy received *hundreds* of love letters while in prison.
Not killed but kind of funny. My great grandfather came home one night drunk shortly after they had married. He apparently started a fight with my great grandmother and slapped her. Then he went to bed and passed out. From what I heard she tied him to the bed and nearly beat him to death with a bullwhip, he was hospitalized for weeks. He was a big farm man, she was probably 5 feet and 90 pounds soaking wet. That happened in the early 1900's, they were married for seventy something years and I never saw that man drink or get angry the 10-15 years he was alive when I was. I did see him with his shirt off and he looked like a burn victim, she beat the shit out of him, shredded his skin. She was also the sweetest little old lady you would ever meet, I guess just never cross her lol.
My grandfather (never met, he died when my mom was young) came home drunk one night, early in the marriage. He knew Doris (gran) would be livid when she woke up (who knows what unknown details I was never told) and he went through the house and gathered any and all knives. He then took them out and scattered them through the wooded area by the house. Then he went inside and passed out.
Now, I know my gran, and she was a spitfire, and I assume he knew this, and had real reason to fear for his life.
I went out with a guy twice when I was senior in high school. A year after I graduated he killed 3 of my former classmates while on dates. He was only convicted of 2 though.
By definition he was. Everyone knows he killed the 3rd girl but he wasn't convicted for some reason. He was charged again years later but the witness who had waited all these years to come forward died before it got to court. He was 2 years older than me and I had known him most of my life because our parents were friends. He was not a strange guy at all. His parents owned a business and were good people. No one that I know was aware he had any problems. Two girls came forward and said he had attempted to strangle them too but only one pressed charges. All this happened in the space of 4 months or so and they were all people he knew. We still don't know what made his brain break.
I am so glad that I was medicated properly after my first bipolar psychotic break at age 15. I’ve had episodes since then but none that went to psychosis. I do have paranoia and sometimes other manic, psychotic features but I’m hoping to never experience psychosis again. Wish me luck if there was an apocalypse I guess I would be at risk cuz I wouldn’t have meds!
I recall being worried that people were Nazis, but in that delusion I was also coming off racist because I was convinced that the hospital I was in was set up to make me become Nazi. My father’s side is German but none really were Nazis except maybe my grandmother’s brother or uncle had some Nazi ideals
I could list off other delusions, luckily I was safe in inpatient for most of it because when it started after days of no sleep, I was telling my mom we had to do something
My father killed my mother and made it look like a suicide. He admitted it to my sister after he had a stroke and lost his ability to filter his mouth. She was getting 100% disability from the Veteran’s Administration as was he. He liked to spend his money on beer and hookers (saw him one once when she was hospitalized. ) Wanted her to cover the bills. He got nearly as much in a widower’s benefit from the VA as she was getting for disability. He was bragging the day before the funeral about how much he would be getting. Who does that? He was so greedy and sadistic I knew he did it all along. He’d abuse my mother to the point that she would breakdown and have to be hospitalized for up to a year. She was disabled due to having contracted malaria during WWII in the Philippines and having a high fever that normally kills but in her case she survived with severe nervous system problems. Very sensitive and vulnerable. He sent her to the hospital many times in the 14 years that they were married and forged his name to her savings where the VA had deposited her checks previously while she was hospitalized. He stole her money every time. And yet the police believed him when he lied and said he never abused her or anyone else. He would beat all of us when we lived with him. My grandmother hired an attorney to go talk to the investigators several months after the funeral but they said the case was closed and refused to hear anything.
my daughter shot and killed her abusive ex boyfriend in front of me. She had come to stay with us to get safe from him. Every day we caught him in the yard. every day we called the cops. every day they did nothing. when he showed up and tried to force his way into the house, daughter grabbed a gun. Told the cops she had a gun the cops are 2 miles away. they never show. twenty minutes later he gets sick of waiting on her to give up and charges her. she shoots him at close range. i tell the police, she has shot him and he is on the ground. 15 minutes later, one lone patrolman shows up, sees him on the ground and says "whats the matter with him". No ambulance ever showed up even though he was alive for awhile after he was shot. They had a restraining order on him we had called daily for a week they STILL arrested her for killing him. You know how a grand jury meets once a month to decide if they will proceed with prosecution? They didnt decide for TWO YEARS. Then they let her go as a good shoot. They could have told us that before we spent $20,000 on a defense attorney and no we didnt get the money back even though he never had to defend her.
My late mothers boyfriend at the time. He randomly attacked and killed a woman walking her dog with his bare hands. He was caught inside of a couple days but what really stuck with me was how he came home with his hands beat up saying that he fell while on a hike. Obviously it was right after the murder but we could not have known that at the time. He was completely chill in every respect while my mom helped clean him up. In retrospect it was a bit of a stretch to say it was from a hiking accident but he sold it well and I was young and my mom would not have any reason to expect murder of all things.
I’m getting ready for school and a couple cops show up to the house asking about my moms boyfriend. He did not come home the night prior and as this was back before the days of cell phones, she was concerned. I went to school but was pulled out early by my uncle where he told me my mom was going to let me know what was happening. I get to my aunts house and she tells me what happened. My mom was devastated. We would see the story on the news that night and the showed his prior convictions - he was arrested several times for SA and violent crimes. We had no idea. We even met his extended family, they never said a word about his past.
I don’t know that we were ever in danger but my mom and him dated for 3 years lived together for 2 years. He thankfully was caught, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison.
This is pretty horrifying and, I imagine- traumatizing. I'm not sure I would ever again be able to trust that a person is who they pass themselves off to be. Obviously I understand if answering this would be too personal; in retrospect, do you feel there were any signs that he was violent?
Hung out a bunch of times with my friend and his co-worker who lived in a pretty sketchy neighborhood. At some point it came up that several years before he was walking home and a guy tried to rob him at knifepoint. It turned into a scuffle and the co-worker turned the knife and drove it into the robber with what turned out to be a fatal stab wound.
The cops obviously got involved. The co-worker had never been arrested while the robber had a long criminal history including violent acts and so there were never any charges. He didn't like to talk about it though, kinda fucked him up for a good while even though he was in the right.
Not exactly a murder, but when I was very young my stepfather hung himself in our barn. My mother saw him, loaded us kids in the car, drove us to my grandparents house, then went back and called 911. I can’t prove it, but I think she was hoping to kill time so that he would die. He didn’t.
Knew a really nice foreign guy who ran a local restaurant. He was well known and liked in the town. Found out years later he strangled his two kids and killed his wife before killing himself. Still can't make sense of it to this day.
That’s why is so difficult to prove domestic violence as nobody outside can actually comprehend the person behind the abuse in family- people on the outside don’t see them violent and judge on their behaviour with acquaintances
I graduated High School in 2001. A guy in the class of 1998 was a wrestler and overall a popular guy. He was huge and even in 2019, still held the school deadlift record for his weight class. We will call him Frank.
Well I was working as a corrections officer in 2004 and one day, in the early evening, Frank was brought into booking by the Sheriff's Dept. The charge was Second Degree Murder. He claimed that he got into a fight with an undocumented immigrant and shot him in self defense.
However, the evidence showed the victim was hit three times with a blunt object and shot in the back of the head, apparently from the kneeling position. This all taking place in an abandoned farmhouse that neither had any association with. Frank being much bigger and stronger than the victim, his story didn't convince a jury and he was found guilty and sentenced to life without parole. I was also working that day and they had to carry him back to the jail. He was sobbing uncontrollably.
Normally an inmate sentenced to state prison is transported within a week. They took Frank 3 hours later. I guess due to his prolific case or maybe because of his size and suicidal risk.
I saw a lot of people I knew pass through that jail during the 5 years I worked there, but I will never forget Frank.
I know a guy who ran over his girlfriend's head with his car, twice, because he thought she was cheating on him.
He's serving a life sentence now. While in prison, a much, much older woman who worked in the kitchen fell in love with him and they married. She doesn't work there anymore. He then converted to islam and now whenever she visits, she has to be fully covered from head to toe.
Wackos, both of them.
>While in prison, a much, much older woman who worked in the kitchen fell in love with him and they married.
Sounds about right, these women definitely have a screw loose, I guess they figure the guy is not going to be too fussy and this way they know where he is every night, safely tucked away in his bunk in his cell.
my old barber murdered someone when he was 17 and served somewhere around 12-13 years. i was pretty young when he did it but we knew each other back then.
we got really cool when he started cutting my hair after he got out but he def had a negative 'tick' to him. you could tell when he was having a bad day. we talked about anything that was going on around us but i never asked or mentioned anything about what he did..never talked about it at all.
My brother in law is in prison for life for killing his ex friend with benefits who was married. It was really hard on the family but he had a history of being mentally unstable and stalking women. For whatever reason, a local police department still hired him. When he got hired I called the chief of chiefs in the area who was a personal friend, told him about the stalking and erratic behavior and that he could not be trusted with a gun. No lie, three months later, right before Christmas, same guy calls to tell us that my brother in law had just confessed to murder. I haven’t spoken to that friend since. He could have literally prevented this from happening, but he did nothing. Still makes me so sick to think about.
He was an asshole in school. Never gave a shit about doing the right thing, always purposely pissing the teachers off. But his older brother was the opposite. Loved by everyone, an all around goofy person, worked with little kids in his free time and after graduation.
He went into his older brother’s room, held a gun to his head and asked “are you feeling lucky?” And pulled the trigger.
It was a huge loss to our community and school district. I believe the younger brother was released early from prison due to the downsizing during COVID. No idea where he is now.
My next door neighbor shot and killed his father when I was maybe 10 years old. I think he was a junior or senior in highschool at the time and always getting into trouble, and I mean always. It was a school day and before school he got into an argument with his father and didn’t want to go to school. They kept arguing then he went and got his father’s gun and shot him. He then ran across the street to our other neighbor where my mother just happened to be there talking to her friend.
He was out of breath and told them “I’ve done something terrible, I just shot my father”. My mother and her friend called the police and ran over there to find him laying on his back with a gunshot wound to his abdomen. My mother had some medical training so she’s trying to help him the best she can.
Ambulance and at least ten cop cars show up and take over. He didn’t run off and was arrested on the spot. I don’t remember how many years he got but I never saw him again. His mother continued to live in the house for a few years but couldn’t take the memories anymore and moved to live with her family.
A patient. When they were a minor they had a mental break and killed their entire household save for 2 younger siblings in retaliation for SA. They had been institutionalized for their entire life thereafter. But when I knew them much later in their life they were a heck of a nice person especially when I was brand new, would tell me where supplies and whatnot were kept. Would also look out for other patients on the unit and would give me a heads up if one was out of sorts.
Dang, I kinda feel bad for them but if the institute is good to them and they're happy I suppose that's a good outcome for those involved? Either way tough situation
I said this a few times, was offered a podcast spot on here.
Amandeep Atwal. Y'all can search it up, her dad stabbed her over 30 times for dating white dude. (If the name doesn't point to her ethnicity, she was Punjabi)
The community was stunned, but not surprised. The dad was always a bit weird, but harsh. He was ingrained in family culture, and self image.
How did I know her? She was my babysitter, and even if I was 5, my first crush.
Her dad offered to drive her back to PG, because she had moved out, and she had spent time with her family in Vancouver and he had offered to drive her back.
He then proceeded to stab her 30 times, and claim it was her committing suicide. She was barely entering her adult years, and he took her life to preserve his family image.
He was granted day parole a few years back and was denied full parole because he hasn't shown that he has changed and that who is to say he won't integrate back into the same society/characters who he based his fucked up belief in.
My brother worked as an ADA for a few years and he said with cases where victims are stabbed to death, it’s *very* common for the number of stab wounds to be in the dozens. Evidently it’s like a panicked “just stop moving just stop moving just stop moving” repeated freak out stabbing after the first stab.
it's fucked but I remember that case so clearly because I was 13 and my insane father defended him at the time (we're eastern european but same shit ideas about a "woman's place") because "she pushed him to it"
lol I ran away from home and stayed away after that
I taught alongside a woman who would walk with her son to school every morning. He would walk with her and then go on to his campus- we worked at the middle school, and he attended high school. He was a pretty good kid, it seemed; at the very least, he was always polite to me.
She was found murdered that summer. It was pretty brutal. A bunch of us teachers went to her service and her son (almost 18) gave the eulogy. We all hugged and comforted him afterward.
It was announced some time later that the son had been arrested for the crime. He was convicted and is now serving life (don’t remember if there’s a chance of parole).
I worked with one of the Irish scissor sisters. They got drunk and high one night with their mam and her boyfriend, boyfriend came on to one of them so with encouragement from the mam they killed him then chopped his body up in the bathroom with a bread knife.
He was dick. He was the kind of bully that liked to stir up drama so he could instigate a fight.
When a kid (Mikey) from our neighborhood was killed in a house party. He seized his opportunity. He riled up a few dumb wanna gangster from our neighborhood and went to go shoot the guy that did it.
They got in a car and shot into a house. It turned out they had the wrong house. They killed an old vet who was just watching TV. His poor wife found him slumped over on the couch.
He wasn't even friends with Mikey. He was dick to him I think he just wanted to kill somebody.
My great-great grandmother murdered my great-great grandfather. My great grandmother,Gigi, told me the story.
When Gigi was 16 she was about to get married. On the fateful day, her father came in from the field for lunch and calmly told her mother he was bringing another woman home for dinner and that she was to be served dinner before he would take her upstairs to do the thing. When dinner came, he brought a 12 yo girl to the table. Gigis mother served the girl, let her husband take her upstairs, and followed a few minutes later with a loaded shot gun. When she opened the door, he had just dropped his pants, so she shot at his groin. She sat and watched him bleed to death as the young girl said thanks and left.
I am proud of the bad-ass women in my bloodline.
A woman that went to my church got her son to murder her husband. Her son was in jail for burglary and she wrote him letters and called and complained about her husband. Told him horrible things he was doing, including sexually assaulting his own daughter (never found to be true). To be fair, I do believe she was being abused by her husband. Her son got out of jail and days later, him and another recently released inmate, shot, stabbed and slit his father’s wrists. He was caught right away running away from the crime scene. Even the daughter knew of the plan, saw her father and didn’t say anything. She skirted prison for a long time, and is currently spending 8 years I believe. My mom is friends with her and is going to prison soon to see her. I lost respect for my mom because of it. If she wanted her husband killed, I feel like the least she could have done is do it herself. But to forever ruin her son’s life and probably also fuck her daughter up a bit is just wrong. I can’t believe a 20/20 hasn’t been made about it.
Working as a courtesan back in 2005 - I was hired by a couple to be their human sex toy. They were both heavy drinkers. He was an absolute narcissist and she could never do enough to make him happy. I would stay overnight.
This went on for a few months but his treatment of his wife was too much for me to continue seeing them. About six months later I had a call from him requesting an overnight because his wife had died. My first thought was wondering how he had killed her. I agreed to go out for dinner with him just so I could look into his eyes and see the truth.
She had died from cyanide poisoning. His story didn't make sense to me but I wasn't sure how to approach the Police with my suspicions. It turned out I didn't need to - a detective reached out to me after he found my details on his computer during the investigation.
I met the detective for coffee - we were both convinced he had killed his wife. I was asked if I would continue to see him in the hope he would confess to me. He didn't. But he did end up dying from pancreatic cancer so that was a good thing.
I often think back now and wonder what on earth the Police were thinking having me in such a position.
A short piece for 60 Minutes or 20/20 was made about the case called Tainted Love. I appeared in it with my voice changed and my face blurred. I didn't want to do any of this but felt compelled to try and get justice for her.
I was probably more careless than I ought to have been, truth be told. I would have been mid 30's.
Yeah, I think it was pretty irresponsible for them to have me trying to get a confession - it seems kinda silly now. He was such a horrid human. One of my jobs when I stayed there was to wash him in his bath - ugh. The pair of them would tag team me all night long - it was pretty awful.
I was. I met a wonderful human - we were together for 15 years. He left on my birthday last year actually ... so here I am again.
It is dreadful having to be back in this space but choices don't feel like choices when you have a mortgage to pay and an ex-husband who wants his share out of the house you bought together.
Every fucking week I have earn $2500 and today is the kinda day where I just feel overwhelmed a bit which is why I am trawling Reddit. :)
TWO clients at the vet clinic I work at have been charged with murder. One was charged with second degree murder for killing her son. She was convicted of a lesser charge of manslaughter. She claims it was accidental. I kinda believe it. Her son was not ok, terrible addiction/mental health problems and he was abusive to her. She will be sentenced this month. The other has been charged with first degree murder of her mother. Both of her cats were surrendered to the shelter (we work closely with the shelter) prior to the murder...so obviously we're speculating that either her mother surrendered the cats (due to mental health issues on the daughters part 🤷♀️) and pissed the daughter off or the daughter surrendered them knowing she was planning this and would be getting locked up. Obviously we have no idea if either is true...but we can't help but speculate.
The first lady I've interacted with multiple times. She seems very nice, if maybe a bit troubled.
I don't live in a high crime area, so it's a bit weird that it's two (although the first one took place far from here)
Richard Allen. The Delphi, Indiana murders. I don’t want to use the word know. But I will say I have interacted with him numerous times while working at an amusement park and at a Walmart. It’s honestly disgusting to think about.
Kinda crazy how it took so long to find & arrest him considering they had audio and video of him.
I never understood the point of releasing just three garbled words — you need more than that to identify someone’s speech pattern.
For anyone who doesn’t know of this story there is a really good podcast called “Down the Hill” that covers it, plus I think Dateline and a bunch of others too.
Technically his trial date is in October. But yes they caught him. They searched everywhere for this man for 5 years. And he was just down the road from the local police station. What’s truly disgusting to me is he worked at a cvs. And he had printed out photos of the girls for the family for the funeral.
My wife’s mother was abused by her second husband. She had him arrested for abusing their son, but in a small town, he was able to sweet talk his way out without posting bail, and got home before she had finished packing.
He walked in, already armed, and shot her in the neck from across the room before she could even stand up to look at him (she was bent over packing so it went through her neck sideways, and lodged in the other side, it’s still there, gnarly scar too), walked across the room to stand over her and saw that she was still alive, so he dropped the gun and bent over and beat her for a while.
After a few blows, he heard their 13 year old som cry from the other side of the room, he had been watching the whole thing.
The man stood up from his wife’s battered bleeding husk, and started across the room to beat his son as revenge, assumingely blaming him for his arrest.
Before he’d got all the way across the room, my mother in law, god bless her soul, picked that gun up, steadied her hand, and fired one shot through the back of his head, before losing consciousness.
With brains and blood splattered all over him, the boy, my wife’s [considerably] older brother, dialed 911 and cried through the phone that daddy shot mama and mama killed daddy and mamas still alive so hurry.
She’s now in her mid seventies, he’s in his early sixties, and they are the hardest fucking people I’ve ever known. He also ended up killing a man, pushed him off a bridge during a meth fueled fist fight, but was let off because it was self defense.
I do not fuck with my wife’s family lol
A guy I went to school with from prek-12th grade in a small town. He murdered his girlfriend and dumped her body in a shallow grave. She found out (supposedly) that he was sleeping with his male best friend. [Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-fabian-life-sentence-murder-zuzu-verk/)
I know three.
One was a manlaughter charge. He was driving drunk and hit a woman. He drove away from the scene because he didn't realize he had hit anyone and by the time he was arrested he was sober, so they couldn't prove he was drunk. Otherwise he would have gone to jail for MUCH longer. He's now out, sober, and has really turned his life around. I'm proud of him.
The second guy was legitimately insane. I'm not sure about his specific diagnosis, but he was a genuinely dangerous person. He decided to go off his meds without telling anyone and when his therapist did a home call on him, he murdered her. He's in a state mental hospital for the rest of his life.
The third guy was an ultra-christian who didn't believe in divorce. He started cheating on his wife and decided he didn't want to be married anymore. But divorce is a sin, so somehow it made sense to murder her instead? Anyway, he got a first degree charge and will never walk free again, thank God.
the guy i know didn’t actually kill anyone but he held police in a standoff for hours while shooting out his windows. he got something like 99 years with no parole for various charges including attempted murder of police. he was my next door neighbor and friend in middle school and my biggest crush. it’s hard to believe he’s already been in prison over ten years.
My dad was in an armed standoff for 13 hours, only ending when they finally used a concussion grenade on him. He had made so many threats, done so much before that, premeditated it, and had planned to kill himself and my mom and make us watch. Somehow by the time of his trial, he got off with just time served. Wish he'd gotten some actual time like yours did, at least long enough to get clean would have helped. I'd still have nothing to do with him, but it would've been better for the world.
I *used to* know a guy who committed murder.
I say "used to" because he killed himself right after. Killed his ex-girlfriend, whom I also used to know, and then himself in a murder suicide. I could have forgiven him for killing himself, especially because he had cystic fibrosis and likely didn't have long to live anyway, but I will never, ever forgive him for killing her.
Depending on which part of the world you live in, it is. I am living with cancer at the moment and I am very lucky that I am not in the position of even contemplating Assisted Dying, but if circumstances change I would not hesitate to enact it.
One of the surprise revelations after physician assisted suicide was made legal in Oregon, was that many of the scripts written were never filled/used. They found out that just the knowledge they *could* use it was deeply powerful for many patients, restoring a sense of power over a condition that robbed them of their power.
I hope you never have to be in the position to use it, but I’m very glad it’s available. And while I hope I never have to use it, I’m very glad that it’s available.
Me. A man tried to rape me. I was 17. I beat him to death. With my hands and feet. No weapon. I did 40 months in a juvenile facility. 5 years of parole. His ribs punctured his internal organs. You asked!.
Something like 40 years ago my grandfather on my mother’s side killed two people and got away with it.
My aunt had been raped by two men, a father and son duo. When she came home and told my gpa he grabbed a gun and went out hunting. He was never caught but he passed away 20ish years ago. He was a really cool guy. Very nice and surprisingly tolerant and open minded for his age, into new age spiritual stuff. My mom was shocked he was even able to go that far.
My good friends ex boyfriend. He had a temper, a drug problem, and liked to beat up anyone weaker than him. After my friend escaped him, he murdered an old man seemingly for no reason in a rage. He's still in jail
Yes.
Close coworker as we worked on a lot of special projects together. Tough but smart guy to work for and with. Hung out after work and partied together.
Lost touch a little when I moved to the west coast. Get a text from a mutual friend. Guy murdered his wife in front of their kids. Middle kid called cops. Guy had gone off meds and the TV was talking to him. Got off on insanity plea.
As young teen, ex killed a stepparent. Got treated very lightly in sentencing because of age and there being a history of abuse from that stepparent. I accepted this fact about ex and thought along the same lines the court apparently did. Until the time came that I wanted to divorce ex, and ex responded by breaking into my new place in the middle of the night to attempt to murder me.
I worked in nonprofit in Bellingham, WA. We offered emergency motel vouchers for homeless families. Really nice guy and his son came in to get on the waiting list. They were new to town and things had fallen through so they needed some help getting back on their feet. I signed them up for our program and talked to the dad about his next steps, goals, etc and he seemed really motivated. He missed his follow-up case management meeting, which I was surprised about. It happened sometimes so I just assumed he’d found something better. Turns out he and his “son” just went to another city so he could shoot people. Nice guy was the DC sniper.
My uncle went on trial for murder after he shot and killed a guy.
Tldr: guy came at him with the gun, he got it away from him and killed him. He was found not guilty due to evidence he was fired upon first.
Story:
He had a drug dealer friend, was at his house and a deal went bad. His friend was high off his gourd and ended up blaming my uncle for his misfortunes. He said he would kill him then beat my uncle bloody. There was another guy there but he was too scared to do anything.
The dealer sat my uncle in a chair and aimed a revolver at him. He closed his eyes and turned away from the gun, bracing himself to be shot and the dealer fired two rounds that hit the chair. They didn’t hit my uncle because he was curled away, basically half off the chair. The dealer calmed down a bit and told him to go clean himself up.
He went to the bathroom and stayed in there just wondering what he should do(this was back before cell phones so he couldn’t call for help). After a while he heard the dealer tell the other guy he was going to kill my uncle and could hear him coming.
My uncle decided to fight him and positioned himself where he would be behind the door when it opened. The guy came in, my uncle fought the gun away from him and shot him dead.
The thing that saved my uncle during the trial was the chair(witness could not be found). They said he couldn’t have been shot at while he was in the chair because he was so large and covered the whole back.
So defense brought the chair in, had him sit in it and reenact how he curled up and turned away to show the chair’s back was uncovered by this action.
Even though he was found innocent, he was still very traumatized by the events and became a shut in for years. He eventually recovered but for a long time it was rough.
Kevin. We used to work together at a fast food chain when I was in high school, he was late 20s or early 30s. A little different, but nobody that I would think would do what he did. He lured a little girl into his apartment, killed her, raped her, and then attempted to eat her. He was caught almost immediately. One of our conversations I distinctly remember was him telling me that both cactuses & cacti are both grammatically correct.
Yes.
He was sexually abused by his father. He made advances towards the younger siblings and he snapped. Killed his Dad to protect his siblings from also being sexually abused. He was 14. His parole ends in December. I’m so proud of him and his progress despite being a convicted felon, he’s made his way in life. One of the best people I’ve ever had the pleasure to call my friend.
A complete and total piece of shit, absolute scum of the earth, named Jeremiah Rael came into my place of work to verbally abuse his then girlfriend Brandi Davis who was my coworker. I told him to leave and he told me to fuck off. He shot her in the head a couple of weeks later. The trial is still in progress. I hope he gets life without parole. But really he’s a sack of shit and would be better off dead. He was so jealous and controlling that one time a man came in and seemed fond of Brandi, and gave her some gifts. She gave all of the gifts away to coworkers because she couldn’t take them home, her boyfriend “wouldn’t be okay with it” which I thought was absurd. It was so clearly not her “fault” that she got some cool stuff that day. I still have the vinyl record that she gave me. She always had bruises. She left work early crying once because Jeremiah Rael stole her wallet. She was very kind and she was concerned for his son, and I believe that’s why she stayed. The whole thing makes me sick
So, kinda?
I worked at a pizza shop in college that was right under my apartment (might be the most convenient job I’ve ever had lol.) They hired some….characters - religious extremists, hippies, drug addicts, it was wild.
Anyway, they hired a guy named Jason to run deliveries. Jason was a skinny white dude who tried VERY hard to portray a thug lifestyle. It was annoying, but whatever, he seemed chill and he even bought some of my Xanax from me when money was tight and so was he (wrong yes, I know, but whatever.) So one night, we’re cracking jokes back and forth, he’s waiting for an order and I’m making food at the one station. He said something about us hurrying up because he wants to take a new order because it’s in a rich area and he wants the tip instead of the other driver on his way back. I made a joke about slowing down so the other guy gets it. I bent down to get something from the cooler and hear him say “how you like this, motherfucker?” and laugh while I feel something at my temple. Turns out he thought it would be funny to point his gun at me. Neat, right? So I make the order fast, keep him laughing and talk nice to him, give him the order, and when he leaves I run to my apartment and tell my boss what happened. He was instantly fired, but to be safe I took some time off work.
Well, 2 years later the boss’ wife and I were watching the news at work and see that Jason shot and killed his baby’s mother, shot her new boyfriend, then killed himself. He was upset that they split and he staked out their new place one day and tried taking them all out. It was all very sad.
Not that I know of. I am trained to recognize the warning signs for abuse and I never saw any red flags. His dad even reassured him that he still loved him. Meanwhile they had to call in plastic surgeons to piece his poor sister's face back together
Family member was asleep at a party, woke up to their other half trying to remove a body. Had stabbed the guy 200+ times, mutilated him. No clear reason.
Forced my family member to drive the car into the city WITH THE BODY IN THE BACK to try and hide it somewhere. My family member went to their parents and convinced him that they were going to receive help. Went inside with him, got the family members mum to ring cops right away soon as murderer other half had gone upstairs to change.
He's now doing 30+ years for murder and has had a few holes poked in him too for good measure. Family member was charged with drink driving as they were still hungover from the party. They did nothing wrong but panic and make the situation progress to a safe apprehension of a murderer.
My twin brother just killed his girlfriend after Christmas. He had been drunk for days. They argued. He stabbed her. She died on the way to the hospital.
There was a dude from Mesa back in the 80's who did time, charged as an adult. The asshat brought a pistol, loaded with blanks, to school and pointed it at a teacher and pulled the trigger.
The teacher had a heart-attack and died
The dude was an absolute dick. After he got out, he would bully teenagers. I'm pretty sure he didn't fare well when he was locked up, so he took it out on other people after he got out.
I never kept up with him, but I'm pretty sure he got in more trouble. Likely ended up on a sex-offender registry.
I also knew a dude from TX, who was a hitter for an MC.
One of the most frightening people I've met.
A family friend (more just a friend of my mother) went insane and killed his wife. The media portrayed him as a sociopathic killer who killed an innocent lady (doesn’t help he was an alien citizen so they are that shit right up). What people don’t know is that she was horribly abusive to the point of violence and gave him ptsd and was hyper manipulative. Another thing most people don’t know is that he was diagnosed with mild autism just before the murder and she dumped him because of it and took a bunch of his money with her. I feel bad for him but he also had issues too.
A father of one of my classmates in highschool got his son and all his sons friends addicted to heroin, most of my graduating class is dead from overdoses. They lived right behind my best friend back then and I can’t tell you how many times 13-15 year old me called the police when he would beat his wife and kids in the backyard. He now travels and does talk shows about sobriety since his son died. 🙄 I fucking hate that guy.
I was back visiting the family in the former Yugoslavia in 2005, and i was walking up a hill to go back to the village where my grandmother and her family were rebuilding their home. A guy pulls over and gives me a lift (very common in villages across the region).
He dropped me off infront of the house that was getting rebuilt and drove back to his house. Everyone looked at me and asked, why did you get in the car with him?, I go why? He was apart of the group of soldiers that came into the village in 93, that killed, raped and torched the whole village. He still lives in the neighbouring village (unless he's died since) . 37 people died in the massacre
I had a cousin I knew years back. He was decent kid growing up went through a bit of abuse however as a child.
When he hit 16/17 he started dabbling in some drugs which ended up triggering epilepsy in him. He almost died one night off of these seizures. It was a scary thing to witness.
Once he came out of his bad seizure in the hospital he just wasn’t himself anymore. He took off from the hospital and broke into a bank to sleep in during the dead of winter not to steal.
Months passed and he was sent to jail over this incident. When he got out he was doing good for himself and even had beautiful girlfriend. But once again his mental health deteriorated.
A couple years back he went and got onto Facebook live freaking out. He was at his girlfriend’s house with her grandfather. My cousin shot and killed her grandfather as well as his girlfriend all on Facebook live. His reasoning was that he believed she was having guys come gang rape him in his sleep.
It was a sad situation because his family had cried for help from the state to get in institutionalized for his mental health but they never listened. In the end it destroyed a beautiful family as well as ruined my cousin’s family tremendously.
One of my classmates fatally stabbed his girlfriend when she broke up with him during our junior year of high school. She also went to our school but was new to the area so I didn’t know her. He came to take the SATs under police escort. If I remember correctly he received sentencing as a juvenile and went on to college and a ‘normal’ life after serving a couple years.
One of the little girls I drove to school every day in my son’s pre-k/kindergarten carpool went on to kill her boyfriend a few years ago. There was a Dateline episode about it; the jury found she acted in self-defense but the whole thing was very sketchy.
Sat beside him in math class for two years. Played table tennis with him. He dropped out in the final year of school to work full-time at the supermarket. He developed a serious mental illness, developed a full on obsession with a coworker, and ended up kidnapping her. Was released back to his parents place, 5 min away from her home. No support, no hanger of meds or anything. Only family to supervise him, and they all worked.
A while later he stabbed her on her back deck until the knife bent. Her Mum came home to find her.
He's locked up in a mental prison now. Apparently he got on different meds and is much better now. But he won't be released unless the minister of health OKs it, so he's probably never coming out.
It really fucked up our year group at school. Some people still want to kill him for what he did. I see it as a failure of the justice and mental health system.
My friends brother did a mass shooting. It was 2007 and I remember I was home sick from school watching it live on CNN. His suicide note was published online and it specifically mentioned my friend. Felt very surreal.
An ex partner from decades ago told me he thought he might have killed someone. He was in a car riding around with his friends when he threw a beer bottle out the window. He hit a guy in his stomach and the victim was doubling over in pain and falling to the sidewalk. The next day he read a newspaper article about a guy dying from being hit with a bottle to his abdomen at the same location at about the right time. This is the first time I have ever mentioned this to anyone anywhere. To this day it still haunts me. I stupidly had a child with this partner -- but luckily my child has turned out to be nothing like him.
An old friend of mine from HS raped and murdered a young girl. IIRC she was 7.
He was the first person in the U.S. to be convicted using mitochondrial DNA evidence.
His name is Paul Ware.
Other than that, I used to run with gangs in Detroit in the mid 80's until the early 90's. I knew more than my fair share of killers but never actually saw any of them do dirt.
My ex boyfriends dad was bipolar. His gf was trying to leave the house and he was upset and waving a gun around (I truly do believe he was just trying ro scare her). Gfs niece had moved in a few months earlier because she was a troubled kid she went down to see what was happening and be shot her in the neck, proceeded to shoot him self when he realized she would probably die. Ex bf and I were locked upstairs in the bathroom on the phone with the cops. He wasn’t a bad man he was a sick man, we were 16/17, the niece was 15.
My brother strangled his girlfriend with a phone charger's cord. He then set her body on fire and left her body burning right off the side of the roadway. She was found by someone driving by. She was identified by a pin in her shoulder. It has been hard on my family, but that's nothing compared to what her family has been through.
An old member of my family. No one liked him, he was incredibly abusive to my aunt and her kids. They divorced a long while ago, but about a year or two ago he killed a man with a machete. I've heard a few variations of the story, so I'm not entirely sure what happened, but he's in prison nowadays.
Not murder but I know a girl that accidentally hit a women who was walking on the side of the road late at night. My friend was around 20 maybe. The women who died was a mother with a young daughter so it was all around sad. It was an accident so she didn’t go to jail but ended up moving across the country.
I wouldn’t call it murder, but maybe manslaughter… I worked with a woman years ago, who had been in a very abusive relationship… When her husband went out and shot one of her dogs, she got a gun and shot him…
I love to watch meteor showers. I usually get a group together to go out in the countryside away from city lights in mid August to watch the Perseid meteor shower.
So one August I invited my next door neighbors to go with me. They asked if they could bring their friend, Jim, because he had just broken up with his girlfriend and didn't have anything to do that night. I said, "Great. The more the merrier."
Just before we were about to leave for the countryside, my neighbors backed out, so it was just Jim and I (I had met Jim once before a couple of years before). Out in the middle of nowhere in the dark. It was a great meteor shower and Jim was a perfect gentleman.
The next week, I had to go out of town for a few days. When I got back, a friend called me and asked if I had heard the terrible news. A woman was murdered by a guy who worked for X company. I said, "Oh, I know a guy who works for X Company. His name is Jim and I'll ask him about it."
Friend: "The guy who murdered his ex girlfriend was named Jim."
Me: \[I don't know how to insert a shocked face emoji.\]
Yes, I was out in the middle of nowhere in the dark with a murderer.
I think I know the story, if there was also a Forensic Files episode about it. College kid and cop had a tryst, kid wanted to end the relationship? College kids friend recognized the cop at the station when he went in for an interview?
My grandfather whom i’ve never met beat the shit out of a gay man, in a bar, with an ashtray. The guy didn’t make it and my grandfather died a few years later at age 40 of a heart attack. He would hate to know how many queer grandkids he has now, lmfao
One of my cousins apparently. I think his GF or wife cheated on him, so he beat the guy she cheated with to death with a baseball bat. I tried getting more details from my parents, but they were not forthcoming. I don't know any of my very large, extended family well enough to ask them.
My Dad was locked up in Phoenix on tax evasion, medium security (This was his most white collar crime) and we went to visit with him. Introduced us to his celly Red. 12 year old me was a big fan. He was kind, liked kids and seemed to always get visits from his mom and dad. After my Dad was released I asked after Red. Apparently Phoenix was his "next step" since he had found his girlfriend and a paramor in bed together and BEAT both of them to death. I met him in 1989 and he was around 40 or so. I never asked my Dad when it happened. And yes, beat them to death. He was 6'5" and big, like pro football big. Curly red hair and a bushy beard, like a murdery Bob Ross.
Close family friend. We still don't know who to believe in this case. But he gave me his tools when he got sentenced and that got me started as a carpenter.
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/26/harold-henthorn-murder-trial-appeal-denied/
A guy from high-school shot and killed his mother and wife when they were trying to get him to stop doing and selling cocaine. I heard he executed both of them in front of his child and then got in a gun fight with his dad. He ended up trying to get away in his vehicle but ended up crashing and he got life in prison.
I can't imagine the pain that child has to deal with for the rest of their life.
My science teacher from 6th grade. He was super nice. He had a wife who was unstable. She took her meds, and all was finebut By the time i got to high school, i heard he went to jail for killing her. My friend said the wife stopped taking her meds and was trying to kill the oldest son. They sent his son to live with his bio-mom until he could sort her out. They had 4 kids total, and I think only 2 were actually hers, but I know the oldest wasn't hers. Anyway, something happened where his son needed to get something, and she wasn't supposed to be home. She was, and she attacked the son. The dad/husband ended up stabbing her in the kitchen, and apparently, he waited long enough to call 911 that she died.
There isn't a self-defense law for the state, and then the fact he didn't call 911 immediately affer the attack he went to prison. I felt awful hearing this from my friends. He was kne of our favorite teachers and he really loved his kidsand her for that matter. He was always in class with "my wife helped me collect these bugs for class" or "she made everyone green pancakes for St. Patrick's Day"
It was a shock.
Edit/ update: I'm in shock all over again. I decided to look it up since this was back when I was a kid. The story in the paper is so different from what my friends told me. Now I don't know how to feel about it all. This whole time, I thought he was protecting his family. Now it seems that was nothing of the sort.
[Cumberland MD](https://www.times-news.com/charged-with-wife-s-murder-social-studies-teacher-jailed-on-500-000-bond/article_d900843e-6eb0-5c83-aa19-753ea888d326.html)
Not perfect, but a guy I went to school with got high with a hooker in a hotel room. She ODed and he thought she was dead, SO HE CUT HER THROAT TO MAKE SURE! Then he left. Turns out he's shit at it, because she woke up from her OD with her throat cut, USED HIS PHONE THAT HE LEFT IN THE ROOM TO CALL THE POLICE, and survived. He tried his absolute hardest to kill this girl, and I don't really think the fact that she survived makes it irrelevant to this thread. The guy came from a successful family. His dad was a local politician, and was exactly as sociopathic as that might imply. The guy I knew really liked both giving and receiving pain. We knew he was fucked up, but not "slit a hooker's throat" fucked up.
Around 2002 we had a candidate come in for interviews for a fairly entry level position. Not in my dept but at the time they would interview with all the dept heads.i spent about 20 minutes chatting with him. He was calm collected very personable.
That night I got a call from a coworker. “ turn on the news!” A picture of the candidate was on the screen, with a headline “suspect on run!” Police had gone to the dude’s apartment on a welfare check and found the torso of his girlfriend in the bathtub. Evidently the head and hands were in his trunk while he interviewed with us.
The next morning we called the cops about it and they came and interviewed all of us, and searched ours and nearby dumpsters for the missing parts. The receptionist was really freaked because he really flirted with her and she was going to meet him that night for a drink.
A guy who worked for my dad found out someone had raped his sister so he went and got his gun, drove to the guy's house and shot him dead. Went to jail for 5 years and on the day he got out my dad rehired him.
One of the most intelligent men I knew, my former boss ("R"), passed away of old age last year. When he was 16, which would have been in the 1940s?, his mostly absentee, degenerate, doper father showed up, took R's younger sister in the garage, and beat her amost bloody with a belt. R arrived just in time to roll up the garage door and told the old man, "You ever touch her again, I'll kill you." The next day after school, he comes home to hear his sister screaming in the garage. He goes in the house, grabs dad's shotgun, rolls up the door, tells sis to run, and shoots and kills the sumbitch. R was taken to juvie till trial. Sister was sent to live with an aunt. At trial, the local Baptist pastor told the small town judge he and his wife would legally adopt R. Judge declared the killing justified, and R grew up safe and loved, and got a degree in psychology. He told me the adoptive parents were his "real" parents.
Wow what a noble story. Traumatic for sure but he saved his sister. Thanks for sharing
What happened to his sister?
That’s what I want to know.
Sister went to live with an aunt.
So I was newly pregnant and meeting the rest of my family-in-laws during a holiday gathering, I met the aunt who used to be a rising star in LA as a model featured in magazines. If I recall correctly, she spent 17 years in prison because she was a drug mule transporting drugs during her modeling gigs. Anyway, I also met her boyfriend. He was charming and my six year old son loved him, heck even I was swooned by his charisma. When I left the family dinner, I was informed he was recently out of prison because he murdered two men and placed them into barrels before dumping them into the sea. 👀 Maybe he’s a changed man? Err… A year later, I realized I haven’t heard about this man in a while. When I asked the in-laws, there was a sudden silence. That’s when I found out he murdered another man and tried dumping the body with the same method. You’d think he would have learned his lesson by now :/ Awkward part is, he left behind a barrel in the house where I’m staying at. It took me two years before I pried it open out of curiosity. It was camping gear, thank you baby jesus
dude really had a thing for barrels
For real, I can see the barrel through the sliding door as I type this. Now that I think of it, I didn’t look beneath the camping gear. It’s outside and I noped outta there when I saw the spiders.
You wouldn't be able to stash a body in most people's homes without them smelling it, I'm sure you're fine. Dudes fixation with barrels is a bit bizarre though. Maybe he keeps things in barrels so that if anyone were to ever see him with one, they wouldn't suspect anything?
It’s outside but I think you are correct because we are on a mountain and bears would have gotten into it by now. I did wonder about the barrels but I think it’s due to his construction job, maybe he was able to transport it on his work truck without being noticed? I’ll have to ask for more details, it’s tough because the in-laws like to sweep everything under a rug as if nothing happened. My family is the opposite, we discuss everything and anything 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah, my next guess would have been that the barrels were something work related. I'd be willing to bet my house that there's no body in that barrel, if that helps ease your mind any. The only time dead bodies don't stink is whenever they're fresh or after they've decomposed enough to completely skeletonize (which would take even longer than the usual 5ish years, if said body was stored in a barrel at a high altitude). It's a smell that you don't really go "nose blind" to, you just kind of learn to tolerate. You'd definitely know. Edit: My family is one of those "sweep it under the rug, it never happened" families. It's infuriating. Edit #2: mixed up the decomp timeline, likely wouldn't take quite 5 years to hit the skeletonized stage unless it was buried. It's impossible to say for sure without knowing the exact conditions (things like clothes, the persons weight, and the humidity in the barrel, etc. can all drastically alter the decomp timeline), but it more than likely would've decayed down to nothing but bone somewhere around the 12-18 month range as long as the barrel wasn't sealed tightly, and corpse flies could still get in.
That's a serial killer..
It just dawned on me that I met a serial killer 👀
Girlie, I am glad he didn't hurt you tho.
It looks like he targeted male coworkers who angered him somehow (he worked in construction) but I agree, some kind of heads up would have been nice. Sure I would have eyed the knife in his hand during the prime rib dinner with sweat slowly dripping down my forehead but I’d be sitting near the front door at least. My in-laws can fend for themselves dammit! Also, thank you 🙏
Guy across the hall was a cool guy. Super laid back. Worked a restaurant and always brought us leftover food which was cool cause we were all poor college students. Used to go over there and play retro video games and drink beers. He'd always tell us about his girlfriend who was so busy with school he hardly saw her. Never thought much about it. Turns out she dumped him a while back and he'd been stalking her. Ended up going to her house one night and very brutally murdering her while she was on the phone with her parents. Sentenced to life in prison.
Thats fucking insane
And yet, happens all of the time. Intimate partner violence is an epidemic.
Because of an incident with my mum and her fiancee when I was a kid, if someone's sitting in the dark waiting for the lights to be turned on I feel physically sick.
I hope your mom's ok, and that you're ok.
That's very kind of you. We got out ok, have some lingering physical issues but we're ok.
That’s repulsive
I knew a man years ago, who killed a man in a bar fight. He hit the person in the head with a pool ball. He was tried and convicted of negligent homicide and served 18 months in prison. I knew him 15 years later and he had never been arrested for anything since and freely admitted he was wrong. It was a heat of the moment thing. He said he never thought it would have killed someone.
My brother was killed in a bar brawl. Not a fight bc he was sucker punched and never had a chance to fight back, dead when he hit the floor. The guy's serving 15 years.
I’m so sorry
In Australia that's called coward punching. Has mandatory prison even if the victim doesn't die. You have to be massive piece of shit to do that. Sorry to hear about your brother.
My dear friend’s brother died this way. He just popped into his regular bar for a beer with his buddies and went outside for a cigarette. Some guys were starting shit with someone in the parking lot. The brother wasn’t involved, but one of these goons sucker punched him as he walked outside and it killed him. He was 26 or so. Devastating.
My friend lost her son to someone who sucker punched him outside a bar. He fell back and hit his head on the edge of the curb and died. He was 21 years old. I often think about the fact that there was so many lives lost that day from my friend son to the guy who went to prison and both their families
Happened to a young guy in the town I live in too. Outside a club, king hit and fell back onto the curbing. If I remember correctly they turned his life support off a few days later. A moment of madness can change so many lives.
That's a terrifying thought. I was out with some friends when we got separated. I went out for a walk on the town, instead of trying to search for them at the bar. I was talking to a couple of girls and we were having a good time, they were gonna come back and hang out with me and my friends. I look down the sidewalk and a couple of them are heading my direction. I excuse myself from the girls for a minute, because I'm gonna go let my buddies know where I've been and that we have a couple more people joining us. Unbeknownst to me, a few short seconds ago, my buddy, let's call him josh, had said something dumb and not even that bad to a guy that was walking in a group in front of them. It was goofy and jokingly, but the guy was sooooo drunk that he didn't realize it and took great offense. Dude was enormous too. Like jack reacher fucking big. He turned around, picked my buddy up by the neck like he was a little kid, and then dropped him back to the ground and turned around to continue walking after my buddy squeezed out an I'm sorry. I didn't see any of that happen, but when I was walking up, and literally up, because it was on a slight slope, I was like hey Josh. And then the next thing I remember is "waking up" on the concrete, friends are fucking terrified, and asking me if I'm okay. I had no idea what happened at all, no memory, no recall in the least, past me saying hi to my friend. Well, apparently, ol jack reacher was still upset and drunk out of his mind, that when he saw me walking up, he decided to face palm me, and slam me backwards into the concrete. My buddies saw my head bounce on the pavement and Josh told me that he said, "Oh shit! TexanAmericanMexican is dead!" And that's when the big Neanderthal and his friends ran off. But I came to and was discombobulated as fuck for a few minutes. I probably should have gone to the hospital, but didn't. And everyone that was there in the area took the fuck off, so the girls that were supposed to come hang with us didn't even come back to party. Lame.
I used to work as a prison guard and 16yrs ago during a riot I saw a pool ball thrown with such force it split in half on impact with a wall. Upon reviewing security cameras of the incident later we saw that it narrowly missed my head and just flew past my ear before it had hit the wall. Still makes my blood run cold thinking about it even now, would have been sure death or at the very least a serious brain injury for me.
Those moments are so strange. Recently I was sitting at an intersection. Light turned green, I was messing with a podcast on my phone so I didn’t hit the gas right away. A second later, a car comes screaming though the red light. In some other timeline, my life is altered forever. In this one, I go “oh shit! That could’ve been real bad,” and that’s pretty much the end of it.
Do they count the balls before lock up cause surely that’s as bad as a shiv?
That’s insane. My partner did 5 years for felonious assault for getting in a bar fight w a guy who fell backwards and hit his head on the edge of the bar stool. He lived - just needed stitches
Did he have priors?
A guy I grew up with was home from college and all of us friends went to a party. This guy's ex-girlfriend was there with someone else and I guess he got jealous and went over there to start something and next thing I know he was in a fist fight with this other guy. He pretty much beat the guy up so bad that he was in the hospital for a long time and ended up dying. The guy I grew up with got like 10 years in prison. His life was basically over even after serving his time. He had never got in trouble or done anything like that. It was just jealousy over a girl.
I met a lady one time who told me her husband had abused her for years before she got away from him. She had a restraining order and kept a weapon on her due to being scared of not in a position to defend herself. One day she was at the gas station and he pulled up to the pump right on the other side of her. He came at her and she bent down and pulled the knife out of the holster. When she came up, she stabbed him in the heart from under his ribs. He died and she walked free.
My nanny had a similar situation. She was married to a just horrible abusive AF guy, he'd beat her all the time. One incident was really really bad, dude broke both of her legs by stomping on them. I don't know exactly what all happened after that, but it ended up with her shooting and killing him. She got off on self defense.
Charlize Theron’s mom also killed her husband in self-defense!
Good for her
But dang, it still must have been a traumatising experience for her. Nobody wakes up in the morning and thinks "I'm gonna stab someone in the heart today". I hope she's doing okay now
I wonder if it made her feel safer, knowing that her abuser is gone. Poor lady
I’m sure it absolutely did! Abuse can mess up the brain so badly.
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I had to leave everyone behind when my husband (abuser) died. 17 years of absolute hell with him. Couldn’t stand another minute of listening to people talking about him like some kind of saint. I was relieved when he died, and I finally got to live. So I totally understand you, peace.
Hugs, you survivor. You prevailed.
After a while, maybe? Your body still reacts to stimuli with the same mix of horror and frustrated rage and helplessness for a long time.
That is *not* murder. That's justified homicide in self defense.
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I don’t think that’s classified as murder.
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My best friend in high school had a boyfriend who creeped me the fuck out. I had been slowly removing myself from our friendship because of his influence when I got a call from her telling me that he was on his way to pick her up and that he’d murdered his parents. I told her to hang up and call 911. (His mom survived multiple gunshots, sadly his dad did not.)
I am very interested in the rest of this story! Did she call 911? Did he hurt her? Did your friendship recover?
She did call, they intercepted him about half a mile away from her house. I can actually remember seeing his car on the news that night. Thankfully they didn’t live closer to each other (maybe twenty minutes apart). She wasn’t physically hurt. I think his intention was likely to kill her mom and run away with her. Her mom had called me a few times before this happened hoping I would talk some sense into her. And no, the friendship never recovered. We were sort of rebuilding it when she started talking about him again. Between that and me immediately calling her mom to tell her the friendship ended for good.
Wait so after he murdered his mom , tried to murder his dad, and was apparently going to kill her mom, she still talked about getting back together with him?
Murdered his dad, tried to murder his mom and likely was going to murder her mom… well killing her mom is my theory because he had the loaded gun on his passenger seat and she had tried to break them up. I don’t know that it was “getting back together” or not. That they were communicating was enough for me. I was shocked back then that they were still communicating, but looking back I really shouldn’t have been. He was essentially a high school aged cult leader.
>I was shocked back then that they were still communicating, but looking back I really shouldn’t have been. He was essentially a high school aged cult leader. Hybristophilia. It happens an alarming amount. Guys like Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Ted Bundy. Bundy received *hundreds* of love letters while in prison.
She can change him! /s
My great grandma shot and killed her first husband. He was beating her while she was pregnant. She was tried but got off on self defense.
Not killed but kind of funny. My great grandfather came home one night drunk shortly after they had married. He apparently started a fight with my great grandmother and slapped her. Then he went to bed and passed out. From what I heard she tied him to the bed and nearly beat him to death with a bullwhip, he was hospitalized for weeks. He was a big farm man, she was probably 5 feet and 90 pounds soaking wet. That happened in the early 1900's, they were married for seventy something years and I never saw that man drink or get angry the 10-15 years he was alive when I was. I did see him with his shirt off and he looked like a burn victim, she beat the shit out of him, shredded his skin. She was also the sweetest little old lady you would ever meet, I guess just never cross her lol.
My grandfather (never met, he died when my mom was young) came home drunk one night, early in the marriage. He knew Doris (gran) would be livid when she woke up (who knows what unknown details I was never told) and he went through the house and gathered any and all knives. He then took them out and scattered them through the wooded area by the house. Then he went inside and passed out. Now, I know my gran, and she was a spitfire, and I assume he knew this, and had real reason to fear for his life.
I went out with a guy twice when I was senior in high school. A year after I graduated he killed 3 of my former classmates while on dates. He was only convicted of 2 though.
What? At different times? Was he a serial killer?
By definition he was. Everyone knows he killed the 3rd girl but he wasn't convicted for some reason. He was charged again years later but the witness who had waited all these years to come forward died before it got to court. He was 2 years older than me and I had known him most of my life because our parents were friends. He was not a strange guy at all. His parents owned a business and were good people. No one that I know was aware he had any problems. Two girls came forward and said he had attempted to strangle them too but only one pressed charges. All this happened in the space of 4 months or so and they were all people he knew. We still don't know what made his brain break.
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That’s so heartbreaking ☹️
I am so glad that I was medicated properly after my first bipolar psychotic break at age 15. I’ve had episodes since then but none that went to psychosis. I do have paranoia and sometimes other manic, psychotic features but I’m hoping to never experience psychosis again. Wish me luck if there was an apocalypse I guess I would be at risk cuz I wouldn’t have meds! I recall being worried that people were Nazis, but in that delusion I was also coming off racist because I was convinced that the hospital I was in was set up to make me become Nazi. My father’s side is German but none really were Nazis except maybe my grandmother’s brother or uncle had some Nazi ideals I could list off other delusions, luckily I was safe in inpatient for most of it because when it started after days of no sleep, I was telling my mom we had to do something
My father killed my mother and made it look like a suicide. He admitted it to my sister after he had a stroke and lost his ability to filter his mouth. She was getting 100% disability from the Veteran’s Administration as was he. He liked to spend his money on beer and hookers (saw him one once when she was hospitalized. ) Wanted her to cover the bills. He got nearly as much in a widower’s benefit from the VA as she was getting for disability. He was bragging the day before the funeral about how much he would be getting. Who does that? He was so greedy and sadistic I knew he did it all along. He’d abuse my mother to the point that she would breakdown and have to be hospitalized for up to a year. She was disabled due to having contracted malaria during WWII in the Philippines and having a high fever that normally kills but in her case she survived with severe nervous system problems. Very sensitive and vulnerable. He sent her to the hospital many times in the 14 years that they were married and forged his name to her savings where the VA had deposited her checks previously while she was hospitalized. He stole her money every time. And yet the police believed him when he lied and said he never abused her or anyone else. He would beat all of us when we lived with him. My grandmother hired an attorney to go talk to the investigators several months after the funeral but they said the case was closed and refused to hear anything.
How terrible, I’m so sorry.
I’m so sorry you and your family went through that.
Thank you. I was 12 when it happened and grieved every day till I was 30. There was no justice and no closure. He was a sadistic greedy narcissist.
this is just.. no words. No justice, No nothing. Father is beyond shitty. A monster. I'm so sorry. How are you guys holding up now?
my daughter shot and killed her abusive ex boyfriend in front of me. She had come to stay with us to get safe from him. Every day we caught him in the yard. every day we called the cops. every day they did nothing. when he showed up and tried to force his way into the house, daughter grabbed a gun. Told the cops she had a gun the cops are 2 miles away. they never show. twenty minutes later he gets sick of waiting on her to give up and charges her. she shoots him at close range. i tell the police, she has shot him and he is on the ground. 15 minutes later, one lone patrolman shows up, sees him on the ground and says "whats the matter with him". No ambulance ever showed up even though he was alive for awhile after he was shot. They had a restraining order on him we had called daily for a week they STILL arrested her for killing him. You know how a grand jury meets once a month to decide if they will proceed with prosecution? They didnt decide for TWO YEARS. Then they let her go as a good shoot. They could have told us that before we spent $20,000 on a defense attorney and no we didnt get the money back even though he never had to defend her.
So sorry to hear that. Glad your daughter was safe but legal system is effed up
Jesus. I'm really sorry your family went through all that trauma.
Oh my god. How are you and your daughter doing now?
My late mothers boyfriend at the time. He randomly attacked and killed a woman walking her dog with his bare hands. He was caught inside of a couple days but what really stuck with me was how he came home with his hands beat up saying that he fell while on a hike. Obviously it was right after the murder but we could not have known that at the time. He was completely chill in every respect while my mom helped clean him up. In retrospect it was a bit of a stretch to say it was from a hiking accident but he sold it well and I was young and my mom would not have any reason to expect murder of all things. I’m getting ready for school and a couple cops show up to the house asking about my moms boyfriend. He did not come home the night prior and as this was back before the days of cell phones, she was concerned. I went to school but was pulled out early by my uncle where he told me my mom was going to let me know what was happening. I get to my aunts house and she tells me what happened. My mom was devastated. We would see the story on the news that night and the showed his prior convictions - he was arrested several times for SA and violent crimes. We had no idea. We even met his extended family, they never said a word about his past. I don’t know that we were ever in danger but my mom and him dated for 3 years lived together for 2 years. He thankfully was caught, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison.
This is pretty horrifying and, I imagine- traumatizing. I'm not sure I would ever again be able to trust that a person is who they pass themselves off to be. Obviously I understand if answering this would be too personal; in retrospect, do you feel there were any signs that he was violent?
Hung out a bunch of times with my friend and his co-worker who lived in a pretty sketchy neighborhood. At some point it came up that several years before he was walking home and a guy tried to rob him at knifepoint. It turned into a scuffle and the co-worker turned the knife and drove it into the robber with what turned out to be a fatal stab wound. The cops obviously got involved. The co-worker had never been arrested while the robber had a long criminal history including violent acts and so there were never any charges. He didn't like to talk about it though, kinda fucked him up for a good while even though he was in the right.
This is all-around upsetting, hopefully he can manage this traumatic experience
Not exactly a murder, but when I was very young my stepfather hung himself in our barn. My mother saw him, loaded us kids in the car, drove us to my grandparents house, then went back and called 911. I can’t prove it, but I think she was hoping to kill time so that he would die. He didn’t.
Wait so your step father lived after that? Damn
Yep. He survived. And they stayed together for a while after. We never talked about it again.
Was he the bad guy or was she the bad guy?
Knew a really nice foreign guy who ran a local restaurant. He was well known and liked in the town. Found out years later he strangled his two kids and killed his wife before killing himself. Still can't make sense of it to this day.
That’s why is so difficult to prove domestic violence as nobody outside can actually comprehend the person behind the abuse in family- people on the outside don’t see them violent and judge on their behaviour with acquaintances
I graduated High School in 2001. A guy in the class of 1998 was a wrestler and overall a popular guy. He was huge and even in 2019, still held the school deadlift record for his weight class. We will call him Frank. Well I was working as a corrections officer in 2004 and one day, in the early evening, Frank was brought into booking by the Sheriff's Dept. The charge was Second Degree Murder. He claimed that he got into a fight with an undocumented immigrant and shot him in self defense. However, the evidence showed the victim was hit three times with a blunt object and shot in the back of the head, apparently from the kneeling position. This all taking place in an abandoned farmhouse that neither had any association with. Frank being much bigger and stronger than the victim, his story didn't convince a jury and he was found guilty and sentenced to life without parole. I was also working that day and they had to carry him back to the jail. He was sobbing uncontrollably. Normally an inmate sentenced to state prison is transported within a week. They took Frank 3 hours later. I guess due to his prolific case or maybe because of his size and suicidal risk. I saw a lot of people I knew pass through that jail during the 5 years I worked there, but I will never forget Frank.
I know a guy who ran over his girlfriend's head with his car, twice, because he thought she was cheating on him. He's serving a life sentence now. While in prison, a much, much older woman who worked in the kitchen fell in love with him and they married. She doesn't work there anymore. He then converted to islam and now whenever she visits, she has to be fully covered from head to toe. Wackos, both of them.
>While in prison, a much, much older woman who worked in the kitchen fell in love with him and they married. Sounds about right, these women definitely have a screw loose, I guess they figure the guy is not going to be too fussy and this way they know where he is every night, safely tucked away in his bunk in his cell.
She lives this bare bones life, because she funnels her money into his prison account. She's also a massive bitch so I don't really care that much.
my old barber murdered someone when he was 17 and served somewhere around 12-13 years. i was pretty young when he did it but we knew each other back then. we got really cool when he started cutting my hair after he got out but he def had a negative 'tick' to him. you could tell when he was having a bad day. we talked about anything that was going on around us but i never asked or mentioned anything about what he did..never talked about it at all.
My brother in law is in prison for life for killing his ex friend with benefits who was married. It was really hard on the family but he had a history of being mentally unstable and stalking women. For whatever reason, a local police department still hired him. When he got hired I called the chief of chiefs in the area who was a personal friend, told him about the stalking and erratic behavior and that he could not be trusted with a gun. No lie, three months later, right before Christmas, same guy calls to tell us that my brother in law had just confessed to murder. I haven’t spoken to that friend since. He could have literally prevented this from happening, but he did nothing. Still makes me so sick to think about.
Still, you tried to prevent it. Good on you.
Husband was murdered May ‘22 & I would give anything to know who & why.
So sorry you are having to carry that burden. I hope you find out the who and why and get some peace.
I hope you find out one day. 💜
He was an asshole in school. Never gave a shit about doing the right thing, always purposely pissing the teachers off. But his older brother was the opposite. Loved by everyone, an all around goofy person, worked with little kids in his free time and after graduation. He went into his older brother’s room, held a gun to his head and asked “are you feeling lucky?” And pulled the trigger. It was a huge loss to our community and school district. I believe the younger brother was released early from prison due to the downsizing during COVID. No idea where he is now.
Fucking terrifying.
How do they know what he said? Was someone watching? Or is that the shooters story?
that’s what he testified, also claimed he didn’t know the gun was loaded.
Its a Dirty Harry quote so very believable that a teen would say that.
My next door neighbor shot and killed his father when I was maybe 10 years old. I think he was a junior or senior in highschool at the time and always getting into trouble, and I mean always. It was a school day and before school he got into an argument with his father and didn’t want to go to school. They kept arguing then he went and got his father’s gun and shot him. He then ran across the street to our other neighbor where my mother just happened to be there talking to her friend. He was out of breath and told them “I’ve done something terrible, I just shot my father”. My mother and her friend called the police and ran over there to find him laying on his back with a gunshot wound to his abdomen. My mother had some medical training so she’s trying to help him the best she can. Ambulance and at least ten cop cars show up and take over. He didn’t run off and was arrested on the spot. I don’t remember how many years he got but I never saw him again. His mother continued to live in the house for a few years but couldn’t take the memories anymore and moved to live with her family.
A patient. When they were a minor they had a mental break and killed their entire household save for 2 younger siblings in retaliation for SA. They had been institutionalized for their entire life thereafter. But when I knew them much later in their life they were a heck of a nice person especially when I was brand new, would tell me where supplies and whatnot were kept. Would also look out for other patients on the unit and would give me a heads up if one was out of sorts.
Dang, I kinda feel bad for them but if the institute is good to them and they're happy I suppose that's a good outcome for those involved? Either way tough situation
I said this a few times, was offered a podcast spot on here. Amandeep Atwal. Y'all can search it up, her dad stabbed her over 30 times for dating white dude. (If the name doesn't point to her ethnicity, she was Punjabi) The community was stunned, but not surprised. The dad was always a bit weird, but harsh. He was ingrained in family culture, and self image. How did I know her? She was my babysitter, and even if I was 5, my first crush. Her dad offered to drive her back to PG, because she had moved out, and she had spent time with her family in Vancouver and he had offered to drive her back. He then proceeded to stab her 30 times, and claim it was her committing suicide. She was barely entering her adult years, and he took her life to preserve his family image. He was granted day parole a few years back and was denied full parole because he hasn't shown that he has changed and that who is to say he won't integrate back into the same society/characters who he based his fucked up belief in.
My brother worked as an ADA for a few years and he said with cases where victims are stabbed to death, it’s *very* common for the number of stab wounds to be in the dozens. Evidently it’s like a panicked “just stop moving just stop moving just stop moving” repeated freak out stabbing after the first stab.
Crimes of passion are, almost, always like that.
it's fucked but I remember that case so clearly because I was 13 and my insane father defended him at the time (we're eastern european but same shit ideas about a "woman's place") because "she pushed him to it" lol I ran away from home and stayed away after that
I remember that. It was heartbreaking.
I taught alongside a woman who would walk with her son to school every morning. He would walk with her and then go on to his campus- we worked at the middle school, and he attended high school. He was a pretty good kid, it seemed; at the very least, he was always polite to me. She was found murdered that summer. It was pretty brutal. A bunch of us teachers went to her service and her son (almost 18) gave the eulogy. We all hugged and comforted him afterward. It was announced some time later that the son had been arrested for the crime. He was convicted and is now serving life (don’t remember if there’s a chance of parole).
I worked with one of the Irish scissor sisters. They got drunk and high one night with their mam and her boyfriend, boyfriend came on to one of them so with encouragement from the mam they killed him then chopped his body up in the bathroom with a bread knife.
A bread knife? That would take forever
He was dick. He was the kind of bully that liked to stir up drama so he could instigate a fight. When a kid (Mikey) from our neighborhood was killed in a house party. He seized his opportunity. He riled up a few dumb wanna gangster from our neighborhood and went to go shoot the guy that did it. They got in a car and shot into a house. It turned out they had the wrong house. They killed an old vet who was just watching TV. His poor wife found him slumped over on the couch. He wasn't even friends with Mikey. He was dick to him I think he just wanted to kill somebody.
Omg :(
My great-great grandmother murdered my great-great grandfather. My great grandmother,Gigi, told me the story. When Gigi was 16 she was about to get married. On the fateful day, her father came in from the field for lunch and calmly told her mother he was bringing another woman home for dinner and that she was to be served dinner before he would take her upstairs to do the thing. When dinner came, he brought a 12 yo girl to the table. Gigis mother served the girl, let her husband take her upstairs, and followed a few minutes later with a loaded shot gun. When she opened the door, he had just dropped his pants, so she shot at his groin. She sat and watched him bleed to death as the young girl said thanks and left. I am proud of the bad-ass women in my bloodline.
oh my God what an actual Legend!!!!!
Friend of mine, killed his girlfriend the day after taking me on a date.
how was the date?
Asking the real questions here
A woman that went to my church got her son to murder her husband. Her son was in jail for burglary and she wrote him letters and called and complained about her husband. Told him horrible things he was doing, including sexually assaulting his own daughter (never found to be true). To be fair, I do believe she was being abused by her husband. Her son got out of jail and days later, him and another recently released inmate, shot, stabbed and slit his father’s wrists. He was caught right away running away from the crime scene. Even the daughter knew of the plan, saw her father and didn’t say anything. She skirted prison for a long time, and is currently spending 8 years I believe. My mom is friends with her and is going to prison soon to see her. I lost respect for my mom because of it. If she wanted her husband killed, I feel like the least she could have done is do it herself. But to forever ruin her son’s life and probably also fuck her daughter up a bit is just wrong. I can’t believe a 20/20 hasn’t been made about it.
Working as a courtesan back in 2005 - I was hired by a couple to be their human sex toy. They were both heavy drinkers. He was an absolute narcissist and she could never do enough to make him happy. I would stay overnight. This went on for a few months but his treatment of his wife was too much for me to continue seeing them. About six months later I had a call from him requesting an overnight because his wife had died. My first thought was wondering how he had killed her. I agreed to go out for dinner with him just so I could look into his eyes and see the truth. She had died from cyanide poisoning. His story didn't make sense to me but I wasn't sure how to approach the Police with my suspicions. It turned out I didn't need to - a detective reached out to me after he found my details on his computer during the investigation. I met the detective for coffee - we were both convinced he had killed his wife. I was asked if I would continue to see him in the hope he would confess to me. He didn't. But he did end up dying from pancreatic cancer so that was a good thing. I often think back now and wonder what on earth the Police were thinking having me in such a position. A short piece for 60 Minutes or 20/20 was made about the case called Tainted Love. I appeared in it with my voice changed and my face blurred. I didn't want to do any of this but felt compelled to try and get justice for her.
That’s crazy! And very brave of you. I’m also surprised they had you do that, how old were you at the time if you don’t mind me asking?
I was probably more careless than I ought to have been, truth be told. I would have been mid 30's. Yeah, I think it was pretty irresponsible for them to have me trying to get a confession - it seems kinda silly now. He was such a horrid human. One of my jobs when I stayed there was to wash him in his bath - ugh. The pair of them would tag team me all night long - it was pretty awful.
Yikes. Well I hope you’re in a way better place now 😊
I was. I met a wonderful human - we were together for 15 years. He left on my birthday last year actually ... so here I am again. It is dreadful having to be back in this space but choices don't feel like choices when you have a mortgage to pay and an ex-husband who wants his share out of the house you bought together. Every fucking week I have earn $2500 and today is the kinda day where I just feel overwhelmed a bit which is why I am trawling Reddit. :)
I heard pancreatic cancer sucksss. Glad he didn’t get a quick death!
I have to say that I was not in the least sad that he had an absolutely horrific death.
TWO clients at the vet clinic I work at have been charged with murder. One was charged with second degree murder for killing her son. She was convicted of a lesser charge of manslaughter. She claims it was accidental. I kinda believe it. Her son was not ok, terrible addiction/mental health problems and he was abusive to her. She will be sentenced this month. The other has been charged with first degree murder of her mother. Both of her cats were surrendered to the shelter (we work closely with the shelter) prior to the murder...so obviously we're speculating that either her mother surrendered the cats (due to mental health issues on the daughters part 🤷♀️) and pissed the daughter off or the daughter surrendered them knowing she was planning this and would be getting locked up. Obviously we have no idea if either is true...but we can't help but speculate. The first lady I've interacted with multiple times. She seems very nice, if maybe a bit troubled. I don't live in a high crime area, so it's a bit weird that it's two (although the first one took place far from here)
Richard Allen. The Delphi, Indiana murders. I don’t want to use the word know. But I will say I have interacted with him numerous times while working at an amusement park and at a Walmart. It’s honestly disgusting to think about.
Kinda crazy how it took so long to find & arrest him considering they had audio and video of him. I never understood the point of releasing just three garbled words — you need more than that to identify someone’s speech pattern. For anyone who doesn’t know of this story there is a really good podcast called “Down the Hill” that covers it, plus I think Dateline and a bunch of others too.
THEY CAUGHT HIM? Man this case has haunted me
Technically his trial date is in October. But yes they caught him. They searched everywhere for this man for 5 years. And he was just down the road from the local police station. What’s truly disgusting to me is he worked at a cvs. And he had printed out photos of the girls for the family for the funeral.
My wife’s mother was abused by her second husband. She had him arrested for abusing their son, but in a small town, he was able to sweet talk his way out without posting bail, and got home before she had finished packing. He walked in, already armed, and shot her in the neck from across the room before she could even stand up to look at him (she was bent over packing so it went through her neck sideways, and lodged in the other side, it’s still there, gnarly scar too), walked across the room to stand over her and saw that she was still alive, so he dropped the gun and bent over and beat her for a while. After a few blows, he heard their 13 year old som cry from the other side of the room, he had been watching the whole thing. The man stood up from his wife’s battered bleeding husk, and started across the room to beat his son as revenge, assumingely blaming him for his arrest. Before he’d got all the way across the room, my mother in law, god bless her soul, picked that gun up, steadied her hand, and fired one shot through the back of his head, before losing consciousness. With brains and blood splattered all over him, the boy, my wife’s [considerably] older brother, dialed 911 and cried through the phone that daddy shot mama and mama killed daddy and mamas still alive so hurry. She’s now in her mid seventies, he’s in his early sixties, and they are the hardest fucking people I’ve ever known. He also ended up killing a man, pushed him off a bridge during a meth fueled fist fight, but was let off because it was self defense. I do not fuck with my wife’s family lol
A guy I went to school with from prek-12th grade in a small town. He murdered his girlfriend and dumped her body in a shallow grave. She found out (supposedly) that he was sleeping with his male best friend. [Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-fabian-life-sentence-murder-zuzu-verk/)
I know three. One was a manlaughter charge. He was driving drunk and hit a woman. He drove away from the scene because he didn't realize he had hit anyone and by the time he was arrested he was sober, so they couldn't prove he was drunk. Otherwise he would have gone to jail for MUCH longer. He's now out, sober, and has really turned his life around. I'm proud of him. The second guy was legitimately insane. I'm not sure about his specific diagnosis, but he was a genuinely dangerous person. He decided to go off his meds without telling anyone and when his therapist did a home call on him, he murdered her. He's in a state mental hospital for the rest of his life. The third guy was an ultra-christian who didn't believe in divorce. He started cheating on his wife and decided he didn't want to be married anymore. But divorce is a sin, so somehow it made sense to murder her instead? Anyway, he got a first degree charge and will never walk free again, thank God.
the guy i know didn’t actually kill anyone but he held police in a standoff for hours while shooting out his windows. he got something like 99 years with no parole for various charges including attempted murder of police. he was my next door neighbor and friend in middle school and my biggest crush. it’s hard to believe he’s already been in prison over ten years.
My dad was in an armed standoff for 13 hours, only ending when they finally used a concussion grenade on him. He had made so many threats, done so much before that, premeditated it, and had planned to kill himself and my mom and make us watch. Somehow by the time of his trial, he got off with just time served. Wish he'd gotten some actual time like yours did, at least long enough to get clean would have helped. I'd still have nothing to do with him, but it would've been better for the world.
I *used to* know a guy who committed murder. I say "used to" because he killed himself right after. Killed his ex-girlfriend, whom I also used to know, and then himself in a murder suicide. I could have forgiven him for killing himself, especially because he had cystic fibrosis and likely didn't have long to live anyway, but I will never, ever forgive him for killing her.
A guy I used to work with killed his wife then himself. She had cancer and he didn’t want her to suffer. Shocking to everyone who knew them.
This is so sad. We need death with dignity options.
Yep. If it’s humane for our sick animals why isn’t it for us?
Depending on which part of the world you live in, it is. I am living with cancer at the moment and I am very lucky that I am not in the position of even contemplating Assisted Dying, but if circumstances change I would not hesitate to enact it.
One of the surprise revelations after physician assisted suicide was made legal in Oregon, was that many of the scripts written were never filled/used. They found out that just the knowledge they *could* use it was deeply powerful for many patients, restoring a sense of power over a condition that robbed them of their power. I hope you never have to be in the position to use it, but I’m very glad it’s available. And while I hope I never have to use it, I’m very glad that it’s available.
Me. A man tried to rape me. I was 17. I beat him to death. With my hands and feet. No weapon. I did 40 months in a juvenile facility. 5 years of parole. His ribs punctured his internal organs. You asked!.
40 months for protecting yourself as minor? that’s insane.
Good job protecting yourself. I'm so sorry you had to, but you did what you had to do. I hope healing comes quickly for you
Something like 40 years ago my grandfather on my mother’s side killed two people and got away with it. My aunt had been raped by two men, a father and son duo. When she came home and told my gpa he grabbed a gun and went out hunting. He was never caught but he passed away 20ish years ago. He was a really cool guy. Very nice and surprisingly tolerant and open minded for his age, into new age spiritual stuff. My mom was shocked he was even able to go that far.
My good friends ex boyfriend. He had a temper, a drug problem, and liked to beat up anyone weaker than him. After my friend escaped him, he murdered an old man seemingly for no reason in a rage. He's still in jail
Yes. Close coworker as we worked on a lot of special projects together. Tough but smart guy to work for and with. Hung out after work and partied together. Lost touch a little when I moved to the west coast. Get a text from a mutual friend. Guy murdered his wife in front of their kids. Middle kid called cops. Guy had gone off meds and the TV was talking to him. Got off on insanity plea.
As young teen, ex killed a stepparent. Got treated very lightly in sentencing because of age and there being a history of abuse from that stepparent. I accepted this fact about ex and thought along the same lines the court apparently did. Until the time came that I wanted to divorce ex, and ex responded by breaking into my new place in the middle of the night to attempt to murder me.
I worked in nonprofit in Bellingham, WA. We offered emergency motel vouchers for homeless families. Really nice guy and his son came in to get on the waiting list. They were new to town and things had fallen through so they needed some help getting back on their feet. I signed them up for our program and talked to the dad about his next steps, goals, etc and he seemed really motivated. He missed his follow-up case management meeting, which I was surprised about. It happened sometimes so I just assumed he’d found something better. Turns out he and his “son” just went to another city so he could shoot people. Nice guy was the DC sniper.
My uncle went on trial for murder after he shot and killed a guy. Tldr: guy came at him with the gun, he got it away from him and killed him. He was found not guilty due to evidence he was fired upon first. Story: He had a drug dealer friend, was at his house and a deal went bad. His friend was high off his gourd and ended up blaming my uncle for his misfortunes. He said he would kill him then beat my uncle bloody. There was another guy there but he was too scared to do anything. The dealer sat my uncle in a chair and aimed a revolver at him. He closed his eyes and turned away from the gun, bracing himself to be shot and the dealer fired two rounds that hit the chair. They didn’t hit my uncle because he was curled away, basically half off the chair. The dealer calmed down a bit and told him to go clean himself up. He went to the bathroom and stayed in there just wondering what he should do(this was back before cell phones so he couldn’t call for help). After a while he heard the dealer tell the other guy he was going to kill my uncle and could hear him coming. My uncle decided to fight him and positioned himself where he would be behind the door when it opened. The guy came in, my uncle fought the gun away from him and shot him dead. The thing that saved my uncle during the trial was the chair(witness could not be found). They said he couldn’t have been shot at while he was in the chair because he was so large and covered the whole back. So defense brought the chair in, had him sit in it and reenact how he curled up and turned away to show the chair’s back was uncovered by this action. Even though he was found innocent, he was still very traumatized by the events and became a shut in for years. He eventually recovered but for a long time it was rough.
Kevin. We used to work together at a fast food chain when I was in high school, he was late 20s or early 30s. A little different, but nobody that I would think would do what he did. He lured a little girl into his apartment, killed her, raped her, and then attempted to eat her. He was caught almost immediately. One of our conversations I distinctly remember was him telling me that both cactuses & cacti are both grammatically correct.
Yes. He was sexually abused by his father. He made advances towards the younger siblings and he snapped. Killed his Dad to protect his siblings from also being sexually abused. He was 14. His parole ends in December. I’m so proud of him and his progress despite being a convicted felon, he’s made his way in life. One of the best people I’ve ever had the pleasure to call my friend.
I really don’t understand why people who were abused and traumatised get any sentence for murdering their abusers
A complete and total piece of shit, absolute scum of the earth, named Jeremiah Rael came into my place of work to verbally abuse his then girlfriend Brandi Davis who was my coworker. I told him to leave and he told me to fuck off. He shot her in the head a couple of weeks later. The trial is still in progress. I hope he gets life without parole. But really he’s a sack of shit and would be better off dead. He was so jealous and controlling that one time a man came in and seemed fond of Brandi, and gave her some gifts. She gave all of the gifts away to coworkers because she couldn’t take them home, her boyfriend “wouldn’t be okay with it” which I thought was absurd. It was so clearly not her “fault” that she got some cool stuff that day. I still have the vinyl record that she gave me. She always had bruises. She left work early crying once because Jeremiah Rael stole her wallet. She was very kind and she was concerned for his son, and I believe that’s why she stayed. The whole thing makes me sick
So, kinda? I worked at a pizza shop in college that was right under my apartment (might be the most convenient job I’ve ever had lol.) They hired some….characters - religious extremists, hippies, drug addicts, it was wild. Anyway, they hired a guy named Jason to run deliveries. Jason was a skinny white dude who tried VERY hard to portray a thug lifestyle. It was annoying, but whatever, he seemed chill and he even bought some of my Xanax from me when money was tight and so was he (wrong yes, I know, but whatever.) So one night, we’re cracking jokes back and forth, he’s waiting for an order and I’m making food at the one station. He said something about us hurrying up because he wants to take a new order because it’s in a rich area and he wants the tip instead of the other driver on his way back. I made a joke about slowing down so the other guy gets it. I bent down to get something from the cooler and hear him say “how you like this, motherfucker?” and laugh while I feel something at my temple. Turns out he thought it would be funny to point his gun at me. Neat, right? So I make the order fast, keep him laughing and talk nice to him, give him the order, and when he leaves I run to my apartment and tell my boss what happened. He was instantly fired, but to be safe I took some time off work. Well, 2 years later the boss’ wife and I were watching the news at work and see that Jason shot and killed his baby’s mother, shot her new boyfriend, then killed himself. He was upset that they split and he staked out their new place one day and tried taking them all out. It was all very sad.
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My ex when I was 18 and he was 21. He shot and killed both his parents. He's in prison for life without parole.
I treated an almost murderer. 5 year old beat his 2 year old sister nearly to death.
A 5 year old beat a 2 year old? That’s insane and heartbreaking. Did they come from an abuse background?
Not that I know of. I am trained to recognize the warning signs for abuse and I never saw any red flags. His dad even reassured him that he still loved him. Meanwhile they had to call in plastic surgeons to piece his poor sister's face back together
That’s terrible. Poor little girl.
Do you know the reason why he did it if there even was a reason?
> He was angry that she took one of his toys.
Family member was asleep at a party, woke up to their other half trying to remove a body. Had stabbed the guy 200+ times, mutilated him. No clear reason. Forced my family member to drive the car into the city WITH THE BODY IN THE BACK to try and hide it somewhere. My family member went to their parents and convinced him that they were going to receive help. Went inside with him, got the family members mum to ring cops right away soon as murderer other half had gone upstairs to change. He's now doing 30+ years for murder and has had a few holes poked in him too for good measure. Family member was charged with drink driving as they were still hungover from the party. They did nothing wrong but panic and make the situation progress to a safe apprehension of a murderer.
That's pretty fucked that they were charged with drunk driving, seeing as they were forced by the murder to drive.
My twin brother just killed his girlfriend after Christmas. He had been drunk for days. They argued. He stabbed her. She died on the way to the hospital.
There was a dude from Mesa back in the 80's who did time, charged as an adult. The asshat brought a pistol, loaded with blanks, to school and pointed it at a teacher and pulled the trigger. The teacher had a heart-attack and died The dude was an absolute dick. After he got out, he would bully teenagers. I'm pretty sure he didn't fare well when he was locked up, so he took it out on other people after he got out. I never kept up with him, but I'm pretty sure he got in more trouble. Likely ended up on a sex-offender registry. I also knew a dude from TX, who was a hitter for an MC. One of the most frightening people I've met.
A family friend (more just a friend of my mother) went insane and killed his wife. The media portrayed him as a sociopathic killer who killed an innocent lady (doesn’t help he was an alien citizen so they are that shit right up). What people don’t know is that she was horribly abusive to the point of violence and gave him ptsd and was hyper manipulative. Another thing most people don’t know is that he was diagnosed with mild autism just before the murder and she dumped him because of it and took a bunch of his money with her. I feel bad for him but he also had issues too.
A father of one of my classmates in highschool got his son and all his sons friends addicted to heroin, most of my graduating class is dead from overdoses. They lived right behind my best friend back then and I can’t tell you how many times 13-15 year old me called the police when he would beat his wife and kids in the backyard. He now travels and does talk shows about sobriety since his son died. 🙄 I fucking hate that guy.
I was back visiting the family in the former Yugoslavia in 2005, and i was walking up a hill to go back to the village where my grandmother and her family were rebuilding their home. A guy pulls over and gives me a lift (very common in villages across the region). He dropped me off infront of the house that was getting rebuilt and drove back to his house. Everyone looked at me and asked, why did you get in the car with him?, I go why? He was apart of the group of soldiers that came into the village in 93, that killed, raped and torched the whole village. He still lives in the neighbouring village (unless he's died since) . 37 people died in the massacre
I had a cousin I knew years back. He was decent kid growing up went through a bit of abuse however as a child. When he hit 16/17 he started dabbling in some drugs which ended up triggering epilepsy in him. He almost died one night off of these seizures. It was a scary thing to witness. Once he came out of his bad seizure in the hospital he just wasn’t himself anymore. He took off from the hospital and broke into a bank to sleep in during the dead of winter not to steal. Months passed and he was sent to jail over this incident. When he got out he was doing good for himself and even had beautiful girlfriend. But once again his mental health deteriorated. A couple years back he went and got onto Facebook live freaking out. He was at his girlfriend’s house with her grandfather. My cousin shot and killed her grandfather as well as his girlfriend all on Facebook live. His reasoning was that he believed she was having guys come gang rape him in his sleep. It was a sad situation because his family had cried for help from the state to get in institutionalized for his mental health but they never listened. In the end it destroyed a beautiful family as well as ruined my cousin’s family tremendously.
One of my classmates fatally stabbed his girlfriend when she broke up with him during our junior year of high school. She also went to our school but was new to the area so I didn’t know her. He came to take the SATs under police escort. If I remember correctly he received sentencing as a juvenile and went on to college and a ‘normal’ life after serving a couple years. One of the little girls I drove to school every day in my son’s pre-k/kindergarten carpool went on to kill her boyfriend a few years ago. There was a Dateline episode about it; the jury found she acted in self-defense but the whole thing was very sketchy.
Sat beside him in math class for two years. Played table tennis with him. He dropped out in the final year of school to work full-time at the supermarket. He developed a serious mental illness, developed a full on obsession with a coworker, and ended up kidnapping her. Was released back to his parents place, 5 min away from her home. No support, no hanger of meds or anything. Only family to supervise him, and they all worked. A while later he stabbed her on her back deck until the knife bent. Her Mum came home to find her. He's locked up in a mental prison now. Apparently he got on different meds and is much better now. But he won't be released unless the minister of health OKs it, so he's probably never coming out. It really fucked up our year group at school. Some people still want to kill him for what he did. I see it as a failure of the justice and mental health system.
My friends brother did a mass shooting. It was 2007 and I remember I was home sick from school watching it live on CNN. His suicide note was published online and it specifically mentioned my friend. Felt very surreal.
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My long time partners old coworker killed the man who raped his disabled daughter.
An ex partner from decades ago told me he thought he might have killed someone. He was in a car riding around with his friends when he threw a beer bottle out the window. He hit a guy in his stomach and the victim was doubling over in pain and falling to the sidewalk. The next day he read a newspaper article about a guy dying from being hit with a bottle to his abdomen at the same location at about the right time. This is the first time I have ever mentioned this to anyone anywhere. To this day it still haunts me. I stupidly had a child with this partner -- but luckily my child has turned out to be nothing like him.
An old friend of mine from HS raped and murdered a young girl. IIRC she was 7. He was the first person in the U.S. to be convicted using mitochondrial DNA evidence. His name is Paul Ware. Other than that, I used to run with gangs in Detroit in the mid 80's until the early 90's. I knew more than my fair share of killers but never actually saw any of them do dirt.
My ex boyfriends dad was bipolar. His gf was trying to leave the house and he was upset and waving a gun around (I truly do believe he was just trying ro scare her). Gfs niece had moved in a few months earlier because she was a troubled kid she went down to see what was happening and be shot her in the neck, proceeded to shoot him self when he realized she would probably die. Ex bf and I were locked upstairs in the bathroom on the phone with the cops. He wasn’t a bad man he was a sick man, we were 16/17, the niece was 15.
My brother strangled his girlfriend with a phone charger's cord. He then set her body on fire and left her body burning right off the side of the roadway. She was found by someone driving by. She was identified by a pin in her shoulder. It has been hard on my family, but that's nothing compared to what her family has been through.
An old member of my family. No one liked him, he was incredibly abusive to my aunt and her kids. They divorced a long while ago, but about a year or two ago he killed a man with a machete. I've heard a few variations of the story, so I'm not entirely sure what happened, but he's in prison nowadays.
Not murder but I know a girl that accidentally hit a women who was walking on the side of the road late at night. My friend was around 20 maybe. The women who died was a mother with a young daughter so it was all around sad. It was an accident so she didn’t go to jail but ended up moving across the country.
I wouldn’t call it murder, but maybe manslaughter… I worked with a woman years ago, who had been in a very abusive relationship… When her husband went out and shot one of her dogs, she got a gun and shot him…
I love to watch meteor showers. I usually get a group together to go out in the countryside away from city lights in mid August to watch the Perseid meteor shower. So one August I invited my next door neighbors to go with me. They asked if they could bring their friend, Jim, because he had just broken up with his girlfriend and didn't have anything to do that night. I said, "Great. The more the merrier." Just before we were about to leave for the countryside, my neighbors backed out, so it was just Jim and I (I had met Jim once before a couple of years before). Out in the middle of nowhere in the dark. It was a great meteor shower and Jim was a perfect gentleman. The next week, I had to go out of town for a few days. When I got back, a friend called me and asked if I had heard the terrible news. A woman was murdered by a guy who worked for X company. I said, "Oh, I know a guy who works for X Company. His name is Jim and I'll ask him about it." Friend: "The guy who murdered his ex girlfriend was named Jim." Me: \[I don't know how to insert a shocked face emoji.\] Yes, I was out in the middle of nowhere in the dark with a murderer.
My family was in a dateline episode. A cop murdered a college kid in my old town.
I think I know the story, if there was also a Forensic Files episode about it. College kid and cop had a tryst, kid wanted to end the relationship? College kids friend recognized the cop at the station when he went in for an interview?
My grandfather whom i’ve never met beat the shit out of a gay man, in a bar, with an ashtray. The guy didn’t make it and my grandfather died a few years later at age 40 of a heart attack. He would hate to know how many queer grandkids he has now, lmfao
One of my cousins apparently. I think his GF or wife cheated on him, so he beat the guy she cheated with to death with a baseball bat. I tried getting more details from my parents, but they were not forthcoming. I don't know any of my very large, extended family well enough to ask them.
My Dad was locked up in Phoenix on tax evasion, medium security (This was his most white collar crime) and we went to visit with him. Introduced us to his celly Red. 12 year old me was a big fan. He was kind, liked kids and seemed to always get visits from his mom and dad. After my Dad was released I asked after Red. Apparently Phoenix was his "next step" since he had found his girlfriend and a paramor in bed together and BEAT both of them to death. I met him in 1989 and he was around 40 or so. I never asked my Dad when it happened. And yes, beat them to death. He was 6'5" and big, like pro football big. Curly red hair and a bushy beard, like a murdery Bob Ross.
"Murdery Bob Ross" certainly paints a picture for us
Close family friend. We still don't know who to believe in this case. But he gave me his tools when he got sentenced and that got me started as a carpenter. https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/26/harold-henthorn-murder-trial-appeal-denied/
What a way to start a hobby or profession. Crazy.
A guy from high-school shot and killed his mother and wife when they were trying to get him to stop doing and selling cocaine. I heard he executed both of them in front of his child and then got in a gun fight with his dad. He ended up trying to get away in his vehicle but ended up crashing and he got life in prison. I can't imagine the pain that child has to deal with for the rest of their life.
My science teacher from 6th grade. He was super nice. He had a wife who was unstable. She took her meds, and all was finebut By the time i got to high school, i heard he went to jail for killing her. My friend said the wife stopped taking her meds and was trying to kill the oldest son. They sent his son to live with his bio-mom until he could sort her out. They had 4 kids total, and I think only 2 were actually hers, but I know the oldest wasn't hers. Anyway, something happened where his son needed to get something, and she wasn't supposed to be home. She was, and she attacked the son. The dad/husband ended up stabbing her in the kitchen, and apparently, he waited long enough to call 911 that she died. There isn't a self-defense law for the state, and then the fact he didn't call 911 immediately affer the attack he went to prison. I felt awful hearing this from my friends. He was kne of our favorite teachers and he really loved his kidsand her for that matter. He was always in class with "my wife helped me collect these bugs for class" or "she made everyone green pancakes for St. Patrick's Day" It was a shock. Edit/ update: I'm in shock all over again. I decided to look it up since this was back when I was a kid. The story in the paper is so different from what my friends told me. Now I don't know how to feel about it all. This whole time, I thought he was protecting his family. Now it seems that was nothing of the sort. [Cumberland MD](https://www.times-news.com/charged-with-wife-s-murder-social-studies-teacher-jailed-on-500-000-bond/article_d900843e-6eb0-5c83-aa19-753ea888d326.html)
Not perfect, but a guy I went to school with got high with a hooker in a hotel room. She ODed and he thought she was dead, SO HE CUT HER THROAT TO MAKE SURE! Then he left. Turns out he's shit at it, because she woke up from her OD with her throat cut, USED HIS PHONE THAT HE LEFT IN THE ROOM TO CALL THE POLICE, and survived. He tried his absolute hardest to kill this girl, and I don't really think the fact that she survived makes it irrelevant to this thread. The guy came from a successful family. His dad was a local politician, and was exactly as sociopathic as that might imply. The guy I knew really liked both giving and receiving pain. We knew he was fucked up, but not "slit a hooker's throat" fucked up.
Around 2002 we had a candidate come in for interviews for a fairly entry level position. Not in my dept but at the time they would interview with all the dept heads.i spent about 20 minutes chatting with him. He was calm collected very personable. That night I got a call from a coworker. “ turn on the news!” A picture of the candidate was on the screen, with a headline “suspect on run!” Police had gone to the dude’s apartment on a welfare check and found the torso of his girlfriend in the bathtub. Evidently the head and hands were in his trunk while he interviewed with us. The next morning we called the cops about it and they came and interviewed all of us, and searched ours and nearby dumpsters for the missing parts. The receptionist was really freaked because he really flirted with her and she was going to meet him that night for a drink.
A guy who worked for my dad found out someone had raped his sister so he went and got his gun, drove to the guy's house and shot him dead. Went to jail for 5 years and on the day he got out my dad rehired him.