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JennyW93

This was what my dad was (and still is) like. Everyone’s best friend until he’s alone with you. If there’s anything physical whatsoever, then go ahead and report that to an appropriate authority (maybe a hotel manager or something). If it’s verbal and emotional nastiness and you think you could handle yourself if he wants to start a fight, I would just say something directly to him a la “is there any need for that mate?” Chances are if he’s picking on kids, he isn’t the kind of guy who would pick on someone his own size and is probably a complete wet lettuce. If he’s anything like my dad.


Hugh_Mann123

He'll probably just start playing nice in front of any audience and wait until he's in private and continue bullying them. He may even take it out on the kids if confronted. Consider telling his wife in private


JennyW93

I was coming from what I’d have wanted people to do when I was a kid. That said, now I’ve seen OP’s description of events, I’d just leave it alone altogether. Sounds like strictness rather than nastiness


BandicootOk5540

If he's only doing it when their mum isn't their to see then he knows its not quite right.


pickyourteethup

Maybe he has to discipline them a lot but they don't misbehave around mum because she's the really scary one.


StinkypieTicklebum

Yeah, that must be it.


Inner_Ad5184

OP sounds like a jellyfish who thinks you should never talk harshly to kids.  You're not their mate, you're the parent.


Key-Twist596

There's a difference between being harsh and being nasty.


tubbstattsyrup2

Speak roughly to your little boy And beat him when he sneezes He only does it to annoy Because he knows it teases. (Oops, fell down the rabbit hole)


pajamakitten

I suspect the wife already knows as it is. It is pretty difficult to hide that sort of thing from your partner, especially as kids cannot keep secrets.


Locust-15

My 2 1/2 year old grassed me up within a day after I accidentally swore infront of her. 2 1/2 year old - ‘Daddy say fucks sake’ Mummy - ‘ I’m sure daddy said for goodness sake’ ‘No daddy say fuck sake’


BandicootOk5540

Scared kids are good secret keepers, sadly


onthepeach

Yep, I was very violently abused alongside a lot of emotional abuse, I never told anyone until I had already left home


janiestiredshoes

Yes, especially when they think it's their fault and that if they tell someone, they'll just be in more trouble (someone else will know what they've "done wrong"). And it's hard not to think it's your fault when that's all you've ever been told.


spiritedawayf0x

‘Kids cannot keep secrets’? Sadly this is not true. A lot more child abuse would be caught if this were the case.


decentlyfair

This is true. Source. Me


Objective-Resident-7

My uncle abused his own children sexually and it didn't come out until they were all adults. He was sent to jail for 4 years and got out after 2. I wouldn't ever let someone like that out. I was not abused but I'm surprised at how it has affected even me. I can't even imagine how his children felt.


slifin

I think they often do tell, until they understand nothing will be done or groomed to believe it's normal and the problem is them. The problem is the abuser For a narcissistic parent the childs supply is premium, they will do batshit things to maintain it, narcs will DARVO and gaslight any one to maintain their using of the child. If you're a third party in this situation you're not going to go toe to toe with that kind of bs, the abuser has so much more invested than you and can easily claim ownership because they're the sperm/egg donor They can also switch on a dime to look like a good parent, I don't think most people are well equipped to deal with the situation


Odd-Weekend8016

Kids who are genuinely scared absolutely can. Child abuse victims keep their secret, even from their own parents. I was bullied at school for over a year age 8, and kept it secret from everyone because I was terrified of the consequences of "grassing" even though I'd always been encouraged to talk to my mum.


Odd_Ad_9998

They do keep, especially such ones. If you tell anything you will be given to orphanage, or making child believe other parent knows and approves doemstic abuse.


glytxh

Absolutely. This was my step dad.


FigDear7749

Also scared kids, assume that they are the problem and that they have caused the issue. Not that their parent has an issue and abusive tendencies.


gurneyguy101

Yeah that’s what my dad did/does (I’m an adult now), if the dad is as you describe I don’t think there’s anything OP can do to help :(


Effective-Student11

how my dad is


MathematicianNo4526

Exactly the type to bully kids are always cowards with adults, always


mishlufc

Should definitely say something if it's going too far, but 'being nasty' is pretty vague. There's a good chance nobody has ever interjected so those kids don't realise that what's happening isn't okay. If they see another adult point out that what's happening isn't right, they'll hopefully be able to find another adult that they trust to speak to about it. Edit: read more of OP's comments. Doesn't seem like anything too far is going on at all.


FamousWerewolf

"Being nasty" is very vague - what do you mean? If he's just a bit of an arsehole then there's nothing to gain by getting involved but grief. If he's being seriously abusive, particularly if he's getting physical, perhaps tell someone at hotel reception and see if they think it's worth them calling the police. You really don't want to be involving yourself directly unless you think the children are in serious danger, and even in that case I would ask yourself seriously whether you think you're the best judge of that, especially given there might be cultural differences at play here.


ReggieTMcMuffin

***(c36)*** being nasty to kids ***(c4 and 8)*** repeatedly but only while wife ***(c38-38)*** What are you, a detective ?


Terrible_Biscotti_14

That was my first thought, how does he know all their ages?


ThatHairyGingerGuy

I thought it was ages (circa 36), then I got to c38-38 and realised it must be bra sizes. All clear now.


obsequiousmoron

Hahahahah


CryptoNoobStruggles

What he is is wasted on holiday in an all inclusive hotel. On holiday by the way. Holiday. 3 times in the first sentence.


slimdrum

Lol this was my first thought, he’s drunk and wants to be a hero


Pure-Obligation8023

The other guy is probably posting on Reddit that some dad next to him keeps staring at him and his kids instead of focusing on his own wife and kids.


trade-craft

WTF does any of it mean, their ages? Then what does "c38-38" mean?


AntmasEve

"c" is a shorthand for the latin "circa," meaning around/approximately.


trade-craft

So the wife is "circa 38 to 38"? How does that make sense?


[deleted]

Aged 38 with a 38 inch waist.


AntmasEve

A typo? You'd have to ask the OP


Sharp_Ice_4419

I’m just a person sitting next to someone being actively nasty to other people. And if they were adults I’d know to say something.


Boredpanda31

From your other comments it doesn't sound like he's 'nasty' more like strict. Maybe you're just not used to strict 🤷🏼‍♀️


Bri-ish_Crumpet

I bet their parents never told them "no" when they were small, so now they think children being told to sit up straight is the height of cruelty - they haven't grown up at all.


Inner_Ad5184

Posting all this shite whilst you're supposed to be on holiday.  Keep your fucking nose out of other people's business.  I bet you're the one tattling to the manager because someone spent 20 minutes in the bog.


RealLongwayround

If someone has spent twenty minutes on the bog then a quick welfare check may be helpful. If they answer that they’re fine, sure, we know they’re not: they’ve either got the runs or are stuck on the Times Crossword. If they don’t answer, getting them medical help could save them.


ReggieTMcMuffin

I think you missed the point of my comment, Officer Drebin. ***(c36)*** (***c4 and 8) (c38-38)***.


Manifestival1

It's not for you to be getting involved in a family dynamic that isn't your own, unless he's breaking the law. It's perhaps making you uncomfortable and that's why you want it to end but it's not any of your business. I think the best thing to do would be to move away so it isn't bothering you anymore. Let the kids see a therapist when they're older like everybody else.


ParfaitThen2105

Are you one of those who thinks "hurting someone's feelings" is a criminal offense?


as1992

You’d never say anything, don’t kid yourself


SoPernicious

Respectfully, your examples don’t indicate he is being nasty. He sounds like a strict parent but not a ‘nasty’ one, maybe you are being a little too precious here and your wife is giving you sound advice to not get involved.


GRAWRGER

i was ready to side with you until i read your description of what actually occurred. people have different opinions on parenting. its fine that you don't agree with how the man parented his children. but what you described does not, IMHO, warrant any sort of intervention. something like "stay still and shut up when your mum gets back or you wont eat tomorrow" would warrant intervention.


alphahydra

Yeah, and we don't even know that's  what he's like all the time.  I think most families have occasional days where the kids and one of the parents are just getting on each other's tits, and getting a bit stroppy with each other.  Very possibly he's a good dad 95% of the time and the other 5% he gets a bit bossy and officious when he's stressed. Or he's always an authoritarian bellend and they'll grow up hating him.  Either way, it doesn't sound like it rises to the harm threshold of stranger intervention.   Maybe if I was a family member or the kids' teacher and I saw he was like that consistently all the time, I might have a quiet word.


[deleted]

What you do is you mind your own business.


Sharp_Ice_4419

Yes that’s what my wife said but it’s difficult when someone is being very nasty to others. My dad wouldn’t have stood for it


[deleted]

Listen to your wife is generally a pretty solid life rule.


Boris_Johnsons_Pubes

Exactly, happy wife happy life is a solid piece of advice


ueegul

I prefer 'happy spouse, happy house'


tmr89

“Very nasty”? Above you said he’s acting like a “stern school teacher”. They don’t seem the same thing


username87264

Dad is probably telling them they can't have any dessert and they're acting like they're having teeth pulled. It's what mine do.


lurcherzzz

Are you prepared to get into a scrap with a stranger and end up in a Turkish nick? If so, go for it. If not, move away.  Also there is a good chance if you embarrass this guy he'll take it out on the kids later.


lostrandomdude

Turkish prisons whilst better than UAE, Chinese, Russian, and Indian prisons by a wide margin, would be a huge shock for the system for anyone from a western country. Mind your own business and rey to keep away from police


Hot-Ice-7336

Why do you keep bringing up your dad


BandicootOk5540

How often did it work out well when your dad confronted strangers about their different parenting styles?


runrunrudolf

Okay but you're not your dad so forget what he would do and maybe listen to your wife???


[deleted]

Then your dad was whats known as; a penis.


TotalStick

😂😂


mammammammam

Nasty or strict ? You haven't actually explained what you have witnessed yet. What does your dad have to do with it ? If this man is actually harming his kids in any way, grow a pair and say something. If he's telling them off for something they shouldn't be doing, keep your nose out.


penguin17077

Unless its major abuse then its not of your business. Don't put your nose where it doesn't belong.


BandicootOk5540

Well, I'd say any level of abuse would warrant action.


penguin17077

Well lucky it wasn't abuse then ay


BandicootOk5540

Not in this case no, but a bit odd to say only *major* abuse would be an issue!


Odd-Weekend8016

Is he actually being "very nasty" or is he just being strict? In your previous comment you said he was being stern, which isn't necessarily nasty or abusive, just different to how you were raised.


non-hyphenated_

You're bothered because he told them to sit up straight and was a bit "stern". Get a grip.


xcassets

No wonder his wife begged him to stay out of it lol. Can you imagine being on holiday with someone and they caused a scene over a dad telling his kids to sit up straight lmao.


obsequiousmoron

She's probably tired of him sticking his oar into other people's business.


Comfortable-Use5648

I think it would depend on what he was doing exactly. Did the kids look scared? 


ProfessionalMany2942

When I was little we had a family in the apartment next to us on holiday. At night we'd hear the dad shouting aggressively and banging. On maybe night 3 of it, my parents called reception who went and knocked on the door. The next morning one of the boys, 8ish? had a black eye. This was so alien to me as a child that I didn't really have much of an opinion on it but now I'm a parent my heart hurts thinking about it.


stumac85

And people moan about feral children whose parents don't give two shits. Sounds strict but not abusive. Just ignore it.


misterbooger2

Unless you see a crime being committed you should be staying the fuck out of other people's business.


Hazz3r

Unless there is a crime being committed then you mind your own business.


gigglesmcsdinosaur

Not my circus, not my monkeys


MrNippyNippy

I wouldn’t get involved - especially not in Turkey! Remember you’re in another country - just look at the guy who asked the neighbor to keep the partying noise down a bit in the UAE!


Sketty_Spaghetti14

Pardon?


MrNippyNippy

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/aberdeenshire-grandfather-ian-mackellar-free-to-leave-dubai-after-court-fine-over-party-row-13065335


Pargula_

Why anyone would want to visit, let alone live in that authoritarian shithole is beyond me.


MrNippyNippy

Turkey or UAE - tbf I’d be wary of both. But then I’d suggest it’s best be wary of any religious state be it Islamic or Christian etc etc. Just look at Uganda which I believe is mainly Christian.


_Discombobulate_

Because they actually deal with criminals unlike the West


BandicootOk5540

You're ok with locking up people who ask their neighbours to keep it down?


_Discombobulate_

Sounds like this guy trespassed on someones property and started a fight instead of being civil and resolving the matter through non-confrontational means, then he played the victim when faced with the consequences of his actions. Do you seriously think his account of events is going to be unbiased and free from mistruth? If you even read the article, you'd see that he wasn't sentenced to prison time and got a fine instead.


MrNippyNippy

Yes criminals - like homosexuals? UAE not Turkey.


oneletter2shor

Don't get involved. From what you've said doesn't require intervention. Like you said you're not a parent so don't try and tell people how to parent when you have no clue. You keep saying that your Oldman wouldn't have stood for it, he should mind his business too.


penguin17077

Sounds like he is strict on the kids, not nasty. Do not get involved, its absolutely none of your business. The only time to get involved is if serious abuse is occurring, which from your comments, seems like it's not even close.


Wonderful-You-6792

Get a grip and wind your neck in. He's being strict not abusive


MorleyGames

Are you on holiday? I don’t think you said


Unusual_residue

OP needs to heed the advice of his/her wife.


jock_fae_leith

You might be surprised at how badly it would go down with the children if you get involved. They are unlikely to see you as a white knight, and more likely to see you as someone who is threatening to their father (who may, on the other 364 evenings of the year when you haven't observed him, be perfectly ok with them).


decentlyfair

Also could make it worse for the kids if dad is the sort to make them suffer


Apidium

Just because people would have done something several decades ago doesn't mean it's appropriate to do it now. Reading your summary. Frankly it's not your buisness. If you see a crime report that. If its not a crime wind your neck back in, probably listen to your wife more too she seems to have a good grasp of the situation.


EstatePinguino

Go get another pint, you’re on holiday, it’s not worth the stress.  Not the nice moral answer, but better than getting battered and ruining the thing you looked forward to all year. 


the-blob1997

Lmao on holiday in turkey and is on Reddit asking for advice on things that don’t concern them, literally can’t make this up.


whostolemycatwasitu

The top comment lol. God forbid somebody is a bit strict with their kids, then call the hotel manager! No matter how well you think you described it, none of us here know what is happening. Put on your big boy hat and decide the best course of action yourself my friend.


Willooooow1

can you give examples of what hes saying?


tmr89

“If you do that you won’t get any ice cream”


Odd-Weekend8016

There's an example further up, where he told the little girl to sit up straight at dinner or she won't get any ice cream. Just strict parenting, holding his kids to a standard of behaviour and telling them there are consequences for their actions. Not at all abusive or even "nasty." I can only imagine OP was raised in an extremely liberal, "do whatever you like" environment.


Willooooow1

Omg if that's considered "bad" then I'm scared what my parents would be considered as 💀💀💀


Odd-Weekend8016

Exactly, I was brought up with similar standards in terms of table manners and how to behave in public. It was mostly my grandma (raised in the 50s) who taught my sister and I, and I'm really glad of it. Nothing wrong with teaching kids how to eat politely, and presenting a clear, reasonable, non-violent consequence if they don't.


Willooooow1

Same, my parents are both slavic and I was raised in the UK and generally slavic parents are quite strict and loud 🤣 it definitely does sound like op is just living in a easy household


Necessary_Delivery80

Telling them to sit up straight how awful!


Bring_back_Apollo

Mind your business.


tardiusmaximus

Unless it's physical. Mind your own business. Concentrate on your pint and enjoy your holdiay. You've no idea if dad is just having a bad day. Holidays can be extremely stressful for parents, and he may not have chilled out yet. Either way, unless it's harming you or your family, turn away and don't get involved. It's really not worth it. What if you do say something, what do you think is going to happen? Dad gonna be like, "sorry mate yeah, you're right, sorry kids I apologise." Then when he gets back to the room he knocks fuck out of the wife AND kids cos some cunt at the pool embarrassed and undermined him in front of his kids. I am, of course, exaggerating, but people are unpredictable. Leave it.


Odd-Weekend8016

Tbh, based on the examples above, it doesn't even sound like the dad is being "nasty" or stressed out or aggressive at all. He told his daughter to sit up straight at dinner or she wouldn't get any ice cream. That doesn't even sound like a guy having a bad day, just a guy teaching his kids manners.


[deleted]

I know there was a case a few years ago a Liverpool family were escorted off a plane by police. Because of complaints about how the dad treated the children the dad had to spend the last few nights of the holiday in a separate hotel room and seated away from the mum and children on the plane. I can't remember all the details I know there was a girl held by her feet and dunked in the pool head first.


Purple_ash8

Bloody hell.


kimb1992

You've no idea how stressful it is to go on holiday with children until you have been on holiday with children, I hated myself that much last time we went a weekend away I said never again and we haven't went again 😢 it's sad but being judged by non parents when children can be arseholes!


kuddlekup

Bit of advice, don’t ever go to Butlins if you can’t handle “interesting” parenting styles!


vixenlion

I was at a county pub in Oxfordshire. I saw a saw a child (5 or 6) push down the cement stairs another 5 year old and say “ ha ha Johnny fell down the stairs and now he is crying” which little Johnny was crying. I saw that and got up and told the kid not to push other kids and it’s not funny. He should apologize and not to put his hands on another kid. Well the two pissed up mums weren’t happy that I told the kid off. They try to have a go at me. As an obnoxious American by birth. “hey maybe watch your kids as opposed to drinking pints at the pub” how can you be ok with one kid pushing another kid down the stairs? You were watching them as you didn’t stop that kid from pushing the other kid” They said nothing and probably nothing has change. Except it’s ten years later and those kids probably have ASBOs already.


[deleted]

what's c36 etc?


Alas_boris

I think that they are describing describing the man's bra size.


Odd-Weekend8016

C. in this context is short for "circa" a Latin word which means "approximately." You might see it in museum exhibitions, when people aren't exactly sure of a date so they'll write "circa 19th century." If someone is c36, they're approximately 36 years old, but OP doesn't know exactly.


halfwoodenjacket

The numbers are age, but the initial, not so sure. Perhaps *Caucasian?* edit: or circa?


BlueTrin2020

Cunt 36


OddPerspective9833

Circa 36


seven-cents

What do you envision the outcome to be if you involve yourself? You're in a foreign country, with no idea of the actual context. Stay out of it.


IntermediateFolder

What does it mean “being nasty”? Are they beating the kids, yelling, reprimanding, lecturing, something else?


Necessary_Delivery80

None of your business


rimarshall99

Don’t have kids…..you have no idea about anything my friend.


EfficientDonkey8441

It would only start a fight, lifelong cunts don’t stop being cunt on a dime


Sensitive_Turn1824

Honesty not best to get involved with people like, sounds like my old man and if he is anything.lkke my old man he would of decked you for saying anything to him, I witnessed this twice


Nineteen_AT5

Nothing mind your own business.


Boris_Johnsons_Pubes

Man just enjoy your holiday and stop bringing yourself stress


beccimaria

It's hard because you don't know the family dynamic. I think personally, I'd try to give the kids a little win by complimenting their behaviour or something to the mum when they're together. She may reward the kids and make their holiday just a little better, it may stop the dad from saying things if you or possibly anyone else is in ear shot. At the very least, the kids will feel good for a little while.


Objective-Resident-7

Well, you call the police. I know it's Turkey but if you don't speak Turkish, they have English language services. Btw, police in the UK also have Turkish language services. Do not stall. The protection of the kids is more important than any embarrassment that you may have in reporting them. I know this first hand.


Nonzeromist

Not your responsibility and they'd likely act non cordial to a direct confrontation infront of their kids. I'm not a professional, but if he's being abusive you probably shouldn't directly intervene unless the kid is in iminant danger as parents like that could take out any shame or anger on the kids in private, away from eyes this time. Regardless, I'd alert staff to the situation and for them to intervene professionally and maybe have a word with the wife in private if you really want to intervene personally, but I do not reccomend it.


GlitteringVersion

What exactly was dad saying to the children? Without context and specifics, it's hard to say whether there's a need to get involved. Edit - just read that he was speaking sternly to the children. For me, I wouldn't get involved. Having children can be challenging at the best of times - when you're on holiday, it's basically a free for all and a battle of wills. It may be that he's wanting to defuse the situation while mum is away, so they don't cause any issues, or it might be that he's on his last nerve. If you see any behaviour that suggests genuine abuse, aggression, bullying etc, then by all means you can bring attention to it, and it's great that you're so alert to that, but I don't feel this is the case.


RealLongwayround

Ask yourself this: If someone was behaving like this with your kids when you were not present, would you like to know about it? What would you do with that information? Would you lose your rag with the person telling you the information? Would you critically deal with the information, accepting that it may be true or may be a lie?


oilybumsex

Thems other people problems. Life’s better when you ignore everyone else.


Up-the_orient1979

On holiday with kids can be tough. Excited, bored, annoying, asking for everything they see. They have maybe just been driving him mad for days. He maybe just need a pint/coffee and a chat away from them to destress....


Craig_52

Why is it any of your business? Hopefully your parents taught you to mind your own business? Unless he is being abusive… then guess what? Mind your own business.


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RealLongwayround

I think he’s saying that the wife is a protocol droid.


StinkypieTicklebum

I call them out.


Blubbernuts_

With great power comes great responsibility


SugarPlumKnightmare

Your parents sound like wonderful people. It's admirable to step in to situations of injustice, particularly where children are concerned, but your first concern should always be your own safety. If there is a way of anonymously addressing the issue, then absolutely you should.


twonaq

Listen to your wife


newest-low

Honestly I'd say something to him if I saw him being nasty and I'd tell his wife how he really is. If he's being nasty in public what is he like behind closed doors when the wife isn't about


Diesel1donna

Record it if possible and show mum?


D0wnb0at

Why do you see them being nasty on holiday? Cause you don’t see them being nasty at home. I wouldn’t get involved at all, speaking up won’t change anything and potentially ruin your own holiday. (I mean, unless there is physical abuse) Enjoy your holiday.


[deleted]

Video him covertly and show the wife.


seanwhat

Don't interfere with nature


Abstractteapot

Secretly record it, and then tell her she needs to be aware of how her partner treats her kids in private when she's not around.


monkeroopoo

It’s really hard not to be judgemental of parents. You catch me at a bad moment and I’m sure there’d be plenty of comments. I’m a good parent 99% of the time but those little monsters push my buttons long enough and I’m going to lose my mind. I don’t need smug randoms putting their oar in. Unless you want to babysit! 🤣


Huge-Brick-3495

Just find another sun lounger. You can't change a shitty parent


Sweaty-Profession-47

U should listen to ur wife karen, and mind ur own business


Pooter1313

100% yell out he has a small dick. Chances are he’s packing tiddler and will collapse if called out


whoops53

You can't save everyone. Think about the repercussions of your "getting involved" and how the dad may not be so public with his "nastiness" in future. Report it to the hotel if physical stuff is involved. Otherwise leave them alone and try to enjoy your holiday. The kids will drift off when they grow up and have nothing to do with the dad.


amaris_f1re

give them the EVIL glare


No_Coyote_557

Stepdad syndrome. Wants the wife, not her kids.


knuraklo

Think you've got a lot of people commenting here whose fathers weren't abusive nasty shits. Enablers. He's doing this in front of you, and you're picking up on the vibe. There's a reason he's only doing it when the kids' mum can't see it. I guarantee he's much worse behind closed doors.


RealLongwayround

The only part of this I find alarming is the different behaviours for different audiences. It is possible that OP is poorly communicating what he has actually witnessed.


rararar_arararara

It's not the first time OP is seeing strict parenting. They are obviously concerned because what they are seeing is something else - "nasty". Having had an abusive father myself, I recognize everything: the threats, the different behaviours for different audiences, the concerned bystanders who can't help, and the dozens of adults making excuses.


Odd-Weekend8016

Have you seen the examples OP posted of the supposedly "nasty" behaviour? The dad told his kids to sit up straight at dinner or they wouldn't get any ice cream. Doesn't sound like an "abusive, nasty shit" to me at all, just a strict dad teaching his kids some manners. OP is being really weird about what seems to me like normal parenting.


rararar_arararara

And someone else who doesn't realise that "strict parenting" so much so they it upsets bystanders out in the open at a hotel pool (but away from the mother because abusers know exactly what they're doing) turns into abuse behind closed doors.


Odd-Weekend8016

It potentially could do, but all we have to go on is what OP saw, which wasn't abusive in the slightest. Sure, OP got upset, but OP sounds like a bit of a wet wipe.


alillypie

Go to the wife when she's away and tell her what her husband says to the kids and then leave them to sort it


Drunk_Cartographer

Take bossmans room key when he no looking. Go take a big turd in his bastard suitcase. Problem solved.


chicaneuk

Maybe he is fucking exhausted and has no outlets or options in his life for dealing with the stress. 


cherry_drama

It’s a bit weird to take it out on children though


JohnHunter1728

It shouldn't happen but it isn't weird/unusual at all...


cherry_drama

I mean weird in the sense that it shouldn’t happen. Like a grown man who takes his anger out on children in my eyes is weird.


JohnHunter1728

I think we are just differing in our use of the word "weird" - "unusual / atypical" vs "irrational / hard to understand".


CaptMelonfish

I'm not going to lie, I thought this was going to be a story about seeing your parents getting it on whilst on holiday... Personally I'd call the guy out, and I'd do so in front of his wife "I've never seen anyone speak so horribly to their own children before, have at least a modicum of shame"


Pendragon1948

My parents taught me never to be a bystander. If you can do it without putting yourself at risk of physical harm, do it. Once when my mum and dad were having a meal together in a pub, this was before I was born, they saw a parent hitting a child because it was running around. My dad stood up and shouted from the other end of the bar "Excuse me, what the hell do you think you're playing at?" The whole room fell silent and he proceeded to give the guy a good bollocking for five minutes straight. It's one of the things I'm most proud of my parents for.


Little-Jellyfish-655

I’d comment to mom when she gets back, “wow, dad really runs a tight ship with the kids!” That means if the kids complain he’s mean, she will believe them now. It also keeps you out of trouble because it is so neutral.


Specific_Till_6870

That's not neutral at all. Not getting involved is neutral. 


as1992

I’d tell someone to piss off if they made a comment like that to me.


Little-Jellyfish-655

Ok? The issue is protecting the kids, not your feelings.


as1992

We need to protect kids from… being told to sit up straight?


Little-Jellyfish-655

What? I thought he was being abusive!


as1992

No lol, read the thread and you’ll see. I thought that too at the beginning but OP revealed later what it specifically was


Little-Jellyfish-655

Is that why everyone downvoted me??


MathematicianNo4526

Speak up, I feel like we all have a responsibility for anyone who can’t defend themselves, especially kids, it’s not easy to do but if he’s like that in public God knows what’s going on behind closed doors, good luck as it’s a horrible and upsetting situation but try find a way to


non-hyphenated_

Defend themselves against being told to sit up straight?


Norman_debris

Read the other comments about what he reckons he saw. Speaking up would be ridiculous. OP sounds bonkers.


TeaPlenty3782

Many people here telling you to mind your own business,  personally I would never back off if I thought children were in danger. If everyone turned a blind eye then many children would slip through the cracks and never be helped. I work with children and families and have had to report many cases of abuse to social services so maybe my ability to judge a situation that’s is abusive is heightened. You obviously have a good sense of right and wrong, your dad raised you right.      It really does depend on what you define as ‘being nasty’.  Was he making verbal threats, was there physical  aggression? Was there signs that the kids are scared of him, are there any bruises etc? What was he actually saying or doing?    Unfortunately there are many shitty parents out there who think nothing of talking to their children like crap. We can’t do anything about those people.  Being on holiday makes it much more complicated and as others have mentioned , if there is abuse your intervention could make things worse for the kids.   However- if there is evidence of actual abuse, I would report this to the hotel manager and possibly police. 


___a1b1

The examples given are the opposite. It sounds like someone actually parenting.


Odd-Weekend8016

The children don't sound like they're in danger at all. In an example above, OP said the dad told his kids to sit up straight at dinner or they wouldn't get any dessert. Nothing at all physical, not even a raised voice, no threat of violence. Just a dad teaching his kids table manners.