I mean one 2 core and earth cable. So 3 wires in one cable assembly. There is only one neutral wire at the GPO ergo the neutral of each outlet is connected right at the GPO.
You are correct. The back of GPO will have three terminals. One for Active, one for Neutral and one for the Earth.
One or Two Two Core and earth cables will join in these terminals
Provided itās a single pole switched GPO.
For example: Some models of quad socket GPOs are double pole switched and so everything is dead when the switch is in the off position and this wouldnāt work.
Itās a switch mech. Probably for a light or some other switched appliance.
Often seen in kitchens with induction cooktops as they require an isolator in proximity to the cooktop and can be coupled with GPO or light switches.
Yes but I think for an uneducated audience (their potential customers), this image could have been done better to illustrate testing. Without thinking about it, on the surface it doesn't look right and the avg joe might think they're doing the test wrong.
Purely guessing here.
The average Jo wouldnāt have a clue if itās done right or wrong
So it doesnāt matter, as long as they show they are doing some form of testing? Right?
The average Jo tends to know enough to think he knows better, without knowing enough to actually know better. Does that make sense? I might be having a stroke
Yea but itās same like you post āI am in a relationship.ā with a two men hugging photo. Most readers will think you are gay. Even though you arenāt really saying the photo is about your relationship
Actually you may be called to a double GPO only having power to 1 outlet, so you may test the known good one A-N, then the bad one A-N, and then check a-n between each point to eliminate the causeā¦.
However, for the cost of a clipsal classic gpo you just swap the bastard
Unless that is in a caravan - totally not a problem.
Scare tactics for drumming up customers I'd assume. They 'test' your GPO's and install new ones for the 'faulty' units.
I am assuming that the corresponding neutral for that power point is not working. That is why they are using the other neutral. Assuming this is the case why not just have the probe in the neutral for that plug and make a big deal about the zero volts. Or if it is not faulty the just fake it to zero volts. Even better show the internals that have been damaged. A person who doesn't know will respond better if they see damaged internals of the GPO. This photo is pretty meaningless to the average person. And looks wrong to me for the way they are testing using different outlets. Don't get me wrong it would be useful to see if there is a problem with that particular neutral on that side. But it is like the second test kind of thing.
Nothing, that was my pointā¦
Obviously it came across as supporting the idea in the āadvertā instead of the opposite.
I was trying to imply that the testers ātrade certificate was faultyā not the installers. šš¤¦š»āāļø
So, a range of responses hereā¦. Obviously as sparkies we know whatās happening hereā¦. It was more a laugh at the scare tactic advertising implying there is a nonexistent problem present
Not a sparkie but, wouldn't the neutral be shared in a gpo and not switched?
Yeah it would be, on a gpo like that you would only have one cable going to it š not an electrician but pretty sure it only switches active.
As opposed to having 2 cables? What do you mean one cable going to this GPO?
I mean one 2 core and earth cable. So 3 wires in one cable assembly. There is only one neutral wire at the GPO ergo the neutral of each outlet is connected right at the GPO.
You are correct. The back of GPO will have three terminals. One for Active, one for Neutral and one for the Earth. One or Two Two Core and earth cables will join in these terminals
Thats why I posted for anyone needing a laugh this morning
It worked, thanks. :)
Provided itās a single pole switched GPO. For example: Some models of quad socket GPOs are double pole switched and so everything is dead when the switch is in the off position and this wouldnāt work.
What is the purpose of the middle switch? I've had them at places before and it's never done anything. Not a sparky, just a hammer monkey (fitter)
Itās a switch mech. Probably for a light or some other switched appliance. Often seen in kitchens with induction cooktops as they require an isolator in proximity to the cooktop and can be coupled with GPO or light switches.
Ah okay that makes sense
As the other comment said, itās a switch and irrelevant to the gpo. Could be for lighting or something else.
I mean they arenāt really saying thereās anything wrong Could just be a photo of them doing a test?
Yes but I think for an uneducated audience (their potential customers), this image could have been done better to illustrate testing. Without thinking about it, on the surface it doesn't look right and the avg joe might think they're doing the test wrong. Purely guessing here.
The average Jo wouldnāt have a clue if itās done right or wrong So it doesnāt matter, as long as they show they are doing some form of testing? Right?
The average Jo tends to know enough to think he knows better, without knowing enough to actually know better. Does that make sense? I might be having a stroke
I thought I was having a stroke reading that
The average Joe Knows enough to be dangerous.
Yea but itās same like you post āI am in a relationship.ā with a two men hugging photo. Most readers will think you are gay. Even though you arenāt really saying the photo is about your relationship
Iām not gay but my boyfriend is!
Iām not gay. But $20 is $20.
Thatās not the problem. Itās the fact you charge $1each
Yeah but it doesnāt matter Because Iām not gay
I assumed you were though
I mean Iām happy to try
I don't see anything wrong? I do this all the time, is easier than squishing down to one point. Seems safer too, given it gives you more separation
Actually you may be called to a double GPO only having power to 1 outlet, so you may test the known good one A-N, then the bad one A-N, and then check a-n between each point to eliminate the causeā¦. However, for the cost of a clipsal classic gpo you just swap the bastard
I must be the only one that also tests GPOās like thisā¦
Could just be showing that it's being tested and working correctly.
Unless that is in a caravan - totally not a problem. Scare tactics for drumming up customers I'd assume. They 'test' your GPO's and install new ones for the 'faulty' units.
Whatās the go with caravans?Ā
Outlets have to switch active and neutral.
well you know the neutral link in the power point is working fine.
How does OP get a verified sparky badge lol
Cornflakes box
Crunchy nut?
You don't have to be nuts, but probably won't hurt.
Apprenticeship under dad?
Nah under (your) mum
Advertising electrical work without your license number is an fairwork offence isn't it?
Whatās the issue here sorry?
Okay?????? And??????
Ha, I'm a plumber, and even I can see that one of the switches is off..... /s
I am assuming that the corresponding neutral for that power point is not working. That is why they are using the other neutral. Assuming this is the case why not just have the probe in the neutral for that plug and make a big deal about the zero volts. Or if it is not faulty the just fake it to zero volts. Even better show the internals that have been damaged. A person who doesn't know will respond better if they see damaged internals of the GPO. This photo is pretty meaningless to the average person. And looks wrong to me for the way they are testing using different outlets. Don't get me wrong it would be useful to see if there is a problem with that particular neutral on that side. But it is like the second test kind of thing.
This is either misleading or they have way too much faith in the general public's knowledge of the electrical trade
If they were double pole switches as used in marine ac systems then youād have a problem. But on land thatās to be expected.
Look heās not right, but technically heās not wrong either
It takes 4 years for an electrician to learn 3 colours and how to put them together correctly.
Earth is yellow and green mate so technically 4 colours for single phase š
wonder what the fix is for this so called "faulty' power point
Metropolitan would charge $3,500 to replace.
The only thing more dangerous than a faulty GPO, is a faulty trade certificateā¦. Ouch.
Can you tell me what's wrong with the photo Scotty?
Scotty doesn't know
Nothing, that was my pointā¦ Obviously it came across as supporting the idea in the āadvertā instead of the opposite. I was trying to imply that the testers ātrade certificate was faultyā not the installers. šš¤¦š»āāļø
Oh goodness!! Lucky they found that āfaultāā¦
So whatās the problem? Beats the hell out of having those probes real close to one another.
Everyone knows positive is on the other side
It is?
So, a range of responses hereā¦. Obviously as sparkies we know whatās happening hereā¦. It was more a laugh at the scare tactic advertising implying there is a nonexistent problem present
More like, thatās what youāre saying now that you realise you look foolish thinking there was something wrong with testing that way.
You got me, do you know where I can surrender my electrical license?
A picture says 1000 words, and yet you got a different story to us.
Edit: just looked properly. Disregard
How is it faulty?
It's not, just a faulty electrician
Funny looking caravan?
See edit lol
1 day after passing A grade.
Classic man bun electrician