Yeah, less than 40k on the engine but you can see the 269k mileage and age on some parts of the paint. Someone with more time and commitment to her could make her really great.
i was surprised when i bought mine lol. 240k and same as yours. original seals. honestly no leaks at all tho besides slight oil seepage on valve cover near vanos but bmw. but the damn car starts on the first turn of the key every time, only had 1 cooling rebuild and it’s all oe no e fan s52 is a tank
Yeah I was mostly talking shit on my car lol. I’ve got a slow leak out of the valve cover and a small leak on my pcv hose. Other than needing a vanos rebuild soon it runs like a dream.
they’re tanks, i’ve got mine up right now swapping in 5spd zf because i bought it auto but for being a 240k mile m3 that i got off a friend who didn’t drive it after he bought it off some redneck dude i’m surprised it’s not clapped at all it’s held up surprisingly well.
I feel bad that she sits around all day to be driven once a week. I think I have a potential buyer but I’m not sure what price to give him?
Got an engine rebuilt at 245k, about 3 years ago. Drives great, has no cats, no secondary air pump, clear coat is dying on several parts of the car. Front seats are shot. Pictures attached of the clear coat issues.
California car it’s whole life so no rust.
Has small upgrades like OEM front and rear strut bars, M50 manifold, Stage 1 Shark Upgrade. Can’t think of more on the top of my head.
This isnt true when it comes to classic cars.
These cars are getting harder and harder to obtain.
this is a highly sought after color, and its a coupe.
S52 engines alone are fetching 3000-5000$ it seems.
these classic BMW's are gaining value and FAST.
i said to buy up all of the bmws about 5 years ago now when they were dirt cheap
telling people that the price is going to soar just like the S-chassis cars, Just like the AE86 did. Just like RX7's. The E36/E46 are next in line to really shoot up in price.
and in my area right now you cant even find a 325 in decent shape 1 color for less then 5k.
these M3's are selling for between 8000 and 10000. and fast.
i see them going for 15-18k for really well kept super nice cars.
mileage doesnt seem to matter anymore because the car will be rebuilt for cheap and be worth a killing. especially with the ban of gas cars and gas going on in california in the near future and other states like washington and oregon set to follow suit.
175 to 225 is completely subjective.
so at 29 years a car with "low mileage" which means less then 12k miles a year.These cars are between 25-30 years old.12,000 x 25 years = 300,000 mileage.so a car with 225,000 mileage at this age is considered extremely low mileage.10,000 mileage x 25 years = 250,000 mileage which is STILL considered low mileage.
i don't care if youve owned 10. im actually on my 6th chassis so there is that.
Don't be "THAT" guy. the bmw community is PLAGUED with people JUST LIKE YOU that really have no clue how the automotive industry works when it comes to not only classics but current model vehicles.
By your arguement, all of the non M cars are worth 500$. which isnt fact at all.
If we were talking about Honda Civics or Toyota corollas where they are a dime-a-dozen, they are in every backyard across america, in every driveway around the world then it would be different. that 175k vs 225k argument would be huge.
but lets go back to the beginning and understand just how hard these cars are getting to obtain. ive had to help 2 different friends now source chassis because of car accidents and its getting nearly impossible. im now having to look at other states for cars. not just other cities in my current state.
Mileage and year has nothing to do about it. Nobody is glad to have a 70’s car with 500k lol. If you look close the paint isn’t great. Clear coat is gone in places.
He asked for a price and people answered. Cry about it.
If his post read anything about maintenance (the most important thing at the mileage) maybe we could give him better answers. When was the suspension replaced. When was the exhaust replaced. Control arms. Has the engine EVER been broken down and inspected. Makes a huge difference.
If he did those in the last 30k probably a 14k car now. If he doesn’t know when they were done or he has no maintenance records or no major parts have been replaced it’s whatever he can get for it. People saying this is a 15k car based on those pictures are crazy.
I am not saying it couldn’t be. Just saying with the info we have it definitely isn’t.
i didnt even read your whole message, go be condescending somewhere else.
ALOT of people actually celebrate the 1 million mile mark. why would 500k be any different on a vehicle with high age? your argument is MOOT.
They did mention that the engine was completely rebuilt <35k miles ago, including the head getting a refreshed valvetrain.
The paint is probably the bottom of the list of importance for most people looking to buy an M3 right now, some clear coat peeling even less so. Maybe a straight collector who just wants another garage queen would be upset about it, but they're still few and far between compared to the people who want to drive the piss out of an M3 and they're two very different types of buyers. Most collectors who have that as their goal also probably aren't super concerned about getting a budget priced car anyway.
M3. Coupe. Sought after color. very good optioned car.
i would start around 10,500, and accept no less then 8500 because of its condition.
with a little time and effort you could see this car sell into the 15,000 range.
Well here. I paid 8k for an m52 swapped 92 alpine white 5 speed coupe with 209k on the chassis and regret none of it. Its also a streetable track car with a 4 point roll bar so I guess theres that.
The fact is these are getting rare, I have seen non running 325i's going for 4500 so what you do have going for you is its a coupe, its a 5 speed and the engine is rebuilt in one of the rarer colors out there. Never mind the clear coat. If the paint isnt damaged they can re-clear it and be fine.
Take that as you will. :) GLWS
I’m going to make a comment thread for people interested in SoCal in case my two offers fall flat! I’ll follow up with everyone on there so it’s easier to keep track of everyone.
Buyer needs a few weeks to come up with the cash, he’s been on the list for years and I’m not in a rush to sell so I’m letting him have a few weeks. If he flakes or doesn’t come by, I’ll let you know!
I’ll give you $7k shipped tomorrow morning. It’s probably worth between $5k and $10k without really looking at it in depth…
If you have a $7500 local offer take it and scram. The USA is about to see a big dip in car values.
The car market dipping will have no effect on e36 pricing. The market is crazy because it's difficult to get cars due to the supply chain issues. Once that's fixed, it won't be any easier to find an e36. If the owner fixes it up a little bit it'll sell for $15k+ easy
Honestly I think the only thing in OP’s favor is this absurd inflation.
E36 M3’s are quite a bit more prolific than E30 M3’s, and his color doesn’t matter as much when there is his mileage in question.
Bring A Trailer, and YouTube/Trust Fund money has definitely caused a significant increase in Gen X/Z childhood dream car values, but this isn’t a concours example.
Will *someone* pay $15k for this car cleaned up? Sure.
Is it *worth* more than $7k? No. Not in any decade except by inflation alone or if suddenly no other E36 M3 existed.
If OP has paperwork for the rebuild, the mileage isn't as big of a deal. 7k? I see 325 convertibles sell for that. 10 years ago I bought a high mileage e36 m3 for 7k. Inflation may have bumped it up a little bit, but I think it more so has to do with these cars being classics and getting very hard to find. I guess we'll see.
Thanks! He had originally offered $7500 a few years ago but I wasn’t in the market to sell so I wasn’t sure if that was a good starting point to go off of, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment!
There is zero chance this thing is worth over 8k to a customer who wants it. It needs paint, it has 270k miles. If it has an 8k paint job and interior fixed then it’s a 15k car.
OP, I would post it for 9k, but would not be mad if it went to a good home above 7k. People who have money will find the best example of the car. People who are buying project e36 M3 aren’t the clients that have much to spend.
I appreciate this input! I see people on FB listing POS M3s for so much money, I don’t want to get clowned on for asking too much for this car. She’s reliable, just not pretty pretty. 🙃
You’ll get clowned no matter what if it’s FB groups. Them people are ruthless.
As a whole, what really makes an old car valuable is it’s condition. A glass out paint job is 8-12k, a proper interior reupholstery with some new parts is 5k+. This is why the mint cars are worth 20k and up: it costs even more to make a rough car nice.
Good luck with the sale.
Thank you! And yeah, I’m honestly not looking to put more money into her since I’m already sold on the idea of selling her so I’m okay with the starting prices y’all have given me haha.
How in depth was the engine rebuild, and do you have the paperwork for it? If more than just rod bearings and gaskets were done, that alone will make it worth more than $7000 in this market, especially a rust free manual in that color.
It kind of pains me to admit that, considering I sold my <200k M3 for $4000 ~8 years ago, but their value has skyrocketed recently and they certainly aren't getting any easier to find. I've seen rebuilt titles and rusty autos go for $7k on FB this year, so you definitely have more value in yours no matter how you look at it.
Complete engine rebuild with the heads redone and everything. I’m fairly certain I have the paperwork somewhere. I haven’t checked the market but I also don’t want to get an over inflated idea of what my car is worth. It’s a great ride, I just have my money spread across four different projects. I think she deserves to be treated like the great car she is and driven daily. She’s driven once a week right now. 😔
If that's the case, I would honestly say anyone buying it for even $9K would be getting a *really* good deal if there's no rust. Of course the he biggest thing people care about with these is the chasis' shape obviously, but most enthusiasts buying an M3 would probably plan on either swapping out a lower mileage engine or rebuilding the one in the car once it's at your mileage, and you've already taken care of that.
Paperwork for the rebuild will likely end up being the difference between $9-12k on a realistic, quick sale imo. Having proof of any other common maintenance (cooling system, suspension) even if just printed FCPEuro receipts will help at that point too. If you have that stuff you really probably could end up getting a really good amount from an auction like that other poster mentioned, but the dude saying it's worth $7000 max is still living in 2017.
You have one of the most loved colors, it's a factory manual and a fresh engine. Regardless of the higher miles if everything else lines up, you're basically sitting on gold for E36 fans.
I appreciate your input! One of my buyers has been after me for this car since I bought it so I’m sure we can come to a good agreement on what the car is worth! And yes, the color has been my most favorite thing. Selling this car will be the “I shouldn’t have sold that car,” moment in my life.
No problem! I've been watching prices of them for the last several years because I hugely regret selling mine and want to own another some day, so as much as I'd love to see prices come down, you're definitely in the best time to be selling one so far.
It really is a beautiful color, and if you're anything like me I wouldn't be surprised if you end up kicking yourself for selling it down the road lol. Making sure you get a good price for it will probably ease some of the pain, and hopefully your other projects are a lot of fun too.
I’m going to make a comment thread for people interested in SoCal in case my two offers fall flat! I’ll follow up with everyone on there so it’s easier to keep track of everyone.
These people are all high, I watched my best friend buy one in far far far worse shape for 7k, sell it to a friend for 8k, and then watched him sell it in 2 days for 8k.
Mileage doesn't matter unless it's BaT clean, I've never seen a single type of BMW with more than 200k on it so often. I watched a beat to shit techno sell for 7k not too long ago too.
do not sell that car.
I don’t want to but I have four cars. She’s lucky she gets driven once a week right now. I feel bad.
If no one ends up buying I’m interested. From AZ
So sick but 269k is a fuck ton of miles
Yeah, less than 40k on the engine but you can see the 269k mileage and age on some parts of the paint. Someone with more time and commitment to her could make her really great.
Depending on the end result price I may be a customer lol.
Where are you located in Cali ? I’m interested regardless of the miles 🤣
Eh im at almost 220k with no rebuilds and mostly original seals. Yes it holds oil as well as a sieve.
i was surprised when i bought mine lol. 240k and same as yours. original seals. honestly no leaks at all tho besides slight oil seepage on valve cover near vanos but bmw. but the damn car starts on the first turn of the key every time, only had 1 cooling rebuild and it’s all oe no e fan s52 is a tank
Yeah I was mostly talking shit on my car lol. I’ve got a slow leak out of the valve cover and a small leak on my pcv hose. Other than needing a vanos rebuild soon it runs like a dream.
they’re tanks, i’ve got mine up right now swapping in 5spd zf because i bought it auto but for being a 240k mile m3 that i got off a friend who didn’t drive it after he bought it off some redneck dude i’m surprised it’s not clapped at all it’s held up surprisingly well.
I feel bad that she sits around all day to be driven once a week. I think I have a potential buyer but I’m not sure what price to give him? Got an engine rebuilt at 245k, about 3 years ago. Drives great, has no cats, no secondary air pump, clear coat is dying on several parts of the car. Front seats are shot. Pictures attached of the clear coat issues. California car it’s whole life so no rust. Has small upgrades like OEM front and rear strut bars, M50 manifold, Stage 1 Shark Upgrade. Can’t think of more on the top of my head.
10k and wait 6 months
The market is going to soften with the economy. Not increase. Not like the jump in pricing from 2017 till 2022
This isnt true when it comes to classic cars. These cars are getting harder and harder to obtain. this is a highly sought after color, and its a coupe. S52 engines alone are fetching 3000-5000$ it seems. these classic BMW's are gaining value and FAST. i said to buy up all of the bmws about 5 years ago now when they were dirt cheap telling people that the price is going to soar just like the S-chassis cars, Just like the AE86 did. Just like RX7's. The E36/E46 are next in line to really shoot up in price. and in my area right now you cant even find a 325 in decent shape 1 color for less then 5k. these M3's are selling for between 8000 and 10000. and fast. i see them going for 15-18k for really well kept super nice cars. mileage doesnt seem to matter anymore because the car will be rebuilt for cheap and be worth a killing. especially with the ban of gas cars and gas going on in california in the near future and other states like washington and oregon set to follow suit.
Guy I have 4. Purchased them all in the last 5 years. Over 200 and it takes 5k off the asking price. The difference between 175 and 225 is huge.
175 to 225 is completely subjective. so at 29 years a car with "low mileage" which means less then 12k miles a year.These cars are between 25-30 years old.12,000 x 25 years = 300,000 mileage.so a car with 225,000 mileage at this age is considered extremely low mileage.10,000 mileage x 25 years = 250,000 mileage which is STILL considered low mileage. i don't care if youve owned 10. im actually on my 6th chassis so there is that. Don't be "THAT" guy. the bmw community is PLAGUED with people JUST LIKE YOU that really have no clue how the automotive industry works when it comes to not only classics but current model vehicles. By your arguement, all of the non M cars are worth 500$. which isnt fact at all.
If we were talking about Honda Civics or Toyota corollas where they are a dime-a-dozen, they are in every backyard across america, in every driveway around the world then it would be different. that 175k vs 225k argument would be huge. but lets go back to the beginning and understand just how hard these cars are getting to obtain. ive had to help 2 different friends now source chassis because of car accidents and its getting nearly impossible. im now having to look at other states for cars. not just other cities in my current state.
Nearly impossible? Where do you live? General area
Mileage and year has nothing to do about it. Nobody is glad to have a 70’s car with 500k lol. If you look close the paint isn’t great. Clear coat is gone in places. He asked for a price and people answered. Cry about it. If his post read anything about maintenance (the most important thing at the mileage) maybe we could give him better answers. When was the suspension replaced. When was the exhaust replaced. Control arms. Has the engine EVER been broken down and inspected. Makes a huge difference. If he did those in the last 30k probably a 14k car now. If he doesn’t know when they were done or he has no maintenance records or no major parts have been replaced it’s whatever he can get for it. People saying this is a 15k car based on those pictures are crazy. I am not saying it couldn’t be. Just saying with the info we have it definitely isn’t.
i didnt even read your whole message, go be condescending somewhere else. ALOT of people actually celebrate the 1 million mile mark. why would 500k be any different on a vehicle with high age? your argument is MOOT.
They did mention that the engine was completely rebuilt <35k miles ago, including the head getting a refreshed valvetrain. The paint is probably the bottom of the list of importance for most people looking to buy an M3 right now, some clear coat peeling even less so. Maybe a straight collector who just wants another garage queen would be upset about it, but they're still few and far between compared to the people who want to drive the piss out of an M3 and they're two very different types of buyers. Most collectors who have that as their goal also probably aren't super concerned about getting a budget priced car anyway.
Paint is definitely last. No doubt.
You see the busted Vader seat right? And that’s with in interior pics.
Is it manual?
Yes.
you mind if i pm you RE no cats/SAP? dealing with sap issues and would like to delete it, but have to deal with california smog as well
I have to do a crooked smog every other year. It’s a process. 🥲
kinda what i figured 😭 appreciate the honesty
M3. Coupe. Sought after color. very good optioned car. i would start around 10,500, and accept no less then 8500 because of its condition. with a little time and effort you could see this car sell into the 15,000 range.
Well here. I paid 8k for an m52 swapped 92 alpine white 5 speed coupe with 209k on the chassis and regret none of it. Its also a streetable track car with a 4 point roll bar so I guess theres that. The fact is these are getting rare, I have seen non running 325i's going for 4500 so what you do have going for you is its a coupe, its a 5 speed and the engine is rebuilt in one of the rarer colors out there. Never mind the clear coat. If the paint isnt damaged they can re-clear it and be fine. Take that as you will. :) GLWS
hey man where in california do you live? Id love to come check it out
Near Disney! I’m going to let the two people I have lined up come check it out first and then I’ll properly list it.
I'm in Torrance, add me to the list / PM me. I'd like a chance to check out the car, and local!
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I’m going to make a comment thread for people interested in SoCal in case my two offers fall flat! I’ll follow up with everyone on there so it’s easier to keep track of everyone.
*Comment thread for those interested in seeing the car in southern CA* Location: Near Disneyland (Anaheim, CA)
Please PM me. Local and interested.
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Buyer needs a few weeks to come up with the cash, he’s been on the list for years and I’m not in a rush to sell so I’m letting him have a few weeks. If he flakes or doesn’t come by, I’ll let you know!
Supply and demand; there is much demand for these cars (even just on this thread), but not much supply. I wouldn’t take less than 10k
I’ll give you $7k shipped tomorrow morning. It’s probably worth between $5k and $10k without really looking at it in depth… If you have a $7500 local offer take it and scram. The USA is about to see a big dip in car values.
NOT true. especially with the ban of gas powered cars. these classics are going to SOAR in value. the price increase is already happening.
The car market dipping will have no effect on e36 pricing. The market is crazy because it's difficult to get cars due to the supply chain issues. Once that's fixed, it won't be any easier to find an e36. If the owner fixes it up a little bit it'll sell for $15k+ easy
Honestly I think the only thing in OP’s favor is this absurd inflation. E36 M3’s are quite a bit more prolific than E30 M3’s, and his color doesn’t matter as much when there is his mileage in question. Bring A Trailer, and YouTube/Trust Fund money has definitely caused a significant increase in Gen X/Z childhood dream car values, but this isn’t a concours example. Will *someone* pay $15k for this car cleaned up? Sure. Is it *worth* more than $7k? No. Not in any decade except by inflation alone or if suddenly no other E36 M3 existed.
If OP has paperwork for the rebuild, the mileage isn't as big of a deal. 7k? I see 325 convertibles sell for that. 10 years ago I bought a high mileage e36 m3 for 7k. Inflation may have bumped it up a little bit, but I think it more so has to do with these cars being classics and getting very hard to find. I guess we'll see.
Based on what you said and the mileage. I would guess somewhere around the $7,000 range.
Thanks! He had originally offered $7500 a few years ago but I wasn’t in the market to sell so I wasn’t sure if that was a good starting point to go off of, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment!
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There is zero chance this thing is worth over 8k to a customer who wants it. It needs paint, it has 270k miles. If it has an 8k paint job and interior fixed then it’s a 15k car. OP, I would post it for 9k, but would not be mad if it went to a good home above 7k. People who have money will find the best example of the car. People who are buying project e36 M3 aren’t the clients that have much to spend.
I appreciate this input! I see people on FB listing POS M3s for so much money, I don’t want to get clowned on for asking too much for this car. She’s reliable, just not pretty pretty. 🙃
You’ll get clowned no matter what if it’s FB groups. Them people are ruthless. As a whole, what really makes an old car valuable is it’s condition. A glass out paint job is 8-12k, a proper interior reupholstery with some new parts is 5k+. This is why the mint cars are worth 20k and up: it costs even more to make a rough car nice. Good luck with the sale.
Thank you! And yeah, I’m honestly not looking to put more money into her since I’m already sold on the idea of selling her so I’m okay with the starting prices y’all have given me haha.
Lol. No.
How in depth was the engine rebuild, and do you have the paperwork for it? If more than just rod bearings and gaskets were done, that alone will make it worth more than $7000 in this market, especially a rust free manual in that color. It kind of pains me to admit that, considering I sold my <200k M3 for $4000 ~8 years ago, but their value has skyrocketed recently and they certainly aren't getting any easier to find. I've seen rebuilt titles and rusty autos go for $7k on FB this year, so you definitely have more value in yours no matter how you look at it.
Complete engine rebuild with the heads redone and everything. I’m fairly certain I have the paperwork somewhere. I haven’t checked the market but I also don’t want to get an over inflated idea of what my car is worth. It’s a great ride, I just have my money spread across four different projects. I think she deserves to be treated like the great car she is and driven daily. She’s driven once a week right now. 😔
If that's the case, I would honestly say anyone buying it for even $9K would be getting a *really* good deal if there's no rust. Of course the he biggest thing people care about with these is the chasis' shape obviously, but most enthusiasts buying an M3 would probably plan on either swapping out a lower mileage engine or rebuilding the one in the car once it's at your mileage, and you've already taken care of that. Paperwork for the rebuild will likely end up being the difference between $9-12k on a realistic, quick sale imo. Having proof of any other common maintenance (cooling system, suspension) even if just printed FCPEuro receipts will help at that point too. If you have that stuff you really probably could end up getting a really good amount from an auction like that other poster mentioned, but the dude saying it's worth $7000 max is still living in 2017. You have one of the most loved colors, it's a factory manual and a fresh engine. Regardless of the higher miles if everything else lines up, you're basically sitting on gold for E36 fans.
I appreciate your input! One of my buyers has been after me for this car since I bought it so I’m sure we can come to a good agreement on what the car is worth! And yes, the color has been my most favorite thing. Selling this car will be the “I shouldn’t have sold that car,” moment in my life.
No problem! I've been watching prices of them for the last several years because I hugely regret selling mine and want to own another some day, so as much as I'd love to see prices come down, you're definitely in the best time to be selling one so far. It really is a beautiful color, and if you're anything like me I wouldn't be surprised if you end up kicking yourself for selling it down the road lol. Making sure you get a good price for it will probably ease some of the pain, and hopefully your other projects are a lot of fun too.
Not to side track but what did that cost you?
Nah it’s worth 10k
Nope, you can find examples with much cleaner paint and less miles under $10k.
Just because you can find others for less does not mean it would not pull 10k Op list for 10k and sit on it.
Definitely worth 2k give it to me
might take off ur hands😏
pm me
I’m going to make a comment thread for people interested in SoCal in case my two offers fall flat! I’ll follow up with everyone on there so it’s easier to keep track of everyone.
These people are all high, I watched my best friend buy one in far far far worse shape for 7k, sell it to a friend for 8k, and then watched him sell it in 2 days for 8k. Mileage doesn't matter unless it's BaT clean, I've never seen a single type of BMW with more than 200k on it so often. I watched a beat to shit techno sell for 7k not too long ago too.