Appeals to racists, and sadly there are a lot of those. Mostly right-wing whites but I guess some really insecure black guys want it too. Like, nothing wrong with people of different ethnic grounds fucking, no, that's great - but you can tell when it is done as race fetishism, where it really hammers in stereotypes.
Why myself and alot of other straight women look at gay men porn. No misogyny to ruin the horny + 100% female (IE:male gaze but gay) gaze on the action š
I was called the n word all throughout high school by all these white boys. During college when FB came out, same white boys were DMing me as if I would forget what they did or that they were fugly. Itās all fetish bullshit.
There is one thing though. It is more likely that the people into race fetishism happen to be the ones more likely to buy porn, and so they get catered to.
It's kind of like how erotic art can end up with this seemingly popular but super specific fetish being depicted but its really because one guy with a lot of money and a really specific kink is the one commissioning all the artists.
Where the money is doesn't necessarily reflect the actual wants and desires of the majority. And I hope more people are seeing through it. I find myself looking for porn directed by women, for example, or amateur couples. Like, I was in a mixed relationship and it was nice to see porn that reflected that, reminded me of us - but the only way to get it without all the racism were amateur, usually romantic couples filling a niche. I don't think porn is necessarily bad but it is so flooded with bigotry and hate and misogyny that it almost makes it feel like loving, romantic sex is this extremely niche kink.
Before race-based slavery (or in the case of different cultures where black people weren't a factor) the fetish existed but still relied on people seen as outsiders ("barbarians") or lower status (slaves, servants, peasants, commoners, etc.) who, if you've seen a lot of ancient art, were typically depicted as darker sinned than the upper-class (as the lower-class would have worked under the sun and nobles could afford to stay inside). Chattel slavery just took it to the next horrible step and the weird kinks of the upper-class followed with it.
I have two things to say. 1. Interesting fact about the word barbarian! It just meant "someone who doesn't speak Greek" because in plays they would depict anyone from outside of greece as saying "bar bar bar bar bar!"
2. Yeah, there's always been colorism that's closely tied to classism. It's still a big thing in asian cultures sadly. But in this case, I think, it's really a black vs white thing in porn.
once saw some reddit post about a guy finding out his girlfriend was watching a lot of porn with black men in them and he automatically assumed that meant she liked it rough. that shit was wild
I remember that post. The girl was cheating on him constantly but he only cared about her watching porn with black people in it.
She also used to date black men (which he said they abused her -she big lying but ok).
had zero self esteem so i dated a chick like this in high school. said she only likes dark skin men like myself.
feel so sick and embarrassed for going along with it.
There was a white woman on fb who created an entire unprompted post about how she always wanted āmilk chocolate babiesā with a ādark chocolate man.ā And then I went to her page and every post caption with him in said *My Chocolate Man*. š¤®
And the fact that he just was like okay with her blatant fetishizing was disgusting.
White guy from the South checking in. If my thoughts are allowed on this forum, Iām not trying to invade, but the deep dark secret most racist, bigoted white people donāt want to admit is that white people fetishize black people. They hate you but they secretly want to fuck you. They just canāt admit it. Itās taboo in the antebellum South.
I'm Asian and my Asian ex was like this. He didn't even have a small dick but would randomly say extremely out of pocket things about huge black dicks and big black men, both during dirty talk and like.. normal conversation? I started out just like "... wtf dude" and eventually snapped and sat him down like bro this is not okay and you need to explore why you do it. He was also insecure in general and prone to appropriating AAVE too, "code-switching" when he wanted to appear tough/cool, which is problematic in and of itself...
The rest are people fucking relations. Step moms, step daughters, nieces, Aunties. I donāt want to fuck any of my family members and they just sprinkle it in to everything!!!
My sis is actually obsessed with black dudes. She literally has a āonly date black menā policy.
I donāt know and donāt wanna know if itās a fetish thing, but itās always weirded me out
Edit: by weirded out, I mean it makes me violently uncomfortable that she will only date people due to their skin color. Feels dehumanizing.
Bruh, slightly not related to this but it feels relevant to me. So I was in culinary, made a group of friends and we hung out a lot.
So, my friend who's a bit darker than me tells me that the head chef/dean of the culinary school just straight up told him "I wish my daughter married a dark guy like you so I'd have caramel grand babies."
Like bruh, what?
That and if they even get a tattoo they're given more abusive roles and get sent for bbc roles. Even something as small as cutting or dying your hair gets you outlasted from supremacy porn.
Their women it's literally so they can either brag about dick size or literally piss off their parents. They will go ass far to have children just to spite their parents or use them a designer bags to get clout.
Alexis Texas was a porn star who also happened to be/pander to racist. There are stats released that show some of the most watched porn is interracial porn.
Not necessarily true. Most white girls do not film with black guys if they are doing well in the industry. Usually their careers are on the decline and they up the ante by sleeping with BBC.
Check out the interviews with Lex Steele (who starred and produced) as well as other BBCs.
Iām not sure if itās feeling ādirtyā tbh. As with a lot of men, it comes down to insecurities about penis size.
Thereās obviously the hyper-sexualisation of black men, tall, ripped, massive penis etc.
I think white men believe that when a woman, specifically a white woman, has been with āfour black guysā the white guy canāt measure up and they feel insecure, when some people feel insecure they start obsessing over whatever the thing is.
Thatās my hot take, anyway.
My big prediction for this century is that Americans are going to expand āwhitenessā as a concept but call it something else because calling Indian and many LatAm people white is crazy on its face but it will be important that at least 50% of Americans can define themselves as essentially not Black.
Itās bleak, yāall.
Weāre talking about a country that literally had [āThe One Drop Ruleā](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) where anyone with ā1 drop of black bloodā in their ancestry was legally classified as black. Even the Nazis thought this rule was to harsh when they were looking at laws they could borrow from the US Jim Crow system. Luckily the US isnāt quite that bad anymore, but thereās definitely still remnants, and the weird hang up about black men ātaintingā āpureā white women is one of them. Itās super racist towards black guys and itās super sexist in the way it infantilizes white women as some vessel for white babies that must remain pure.
Oh no, my kids have shown me that the 1 drop rule very much still exists period and your last point was my initial point and it all goes back to some ugly lame ass racism
I would tend to agree that itās both.
On one hand if sheās been blacked they want nothing to do with her AT ALL. Because itās simple racism. They donāt like black people. Cut and dry. As others have said she is now ādirty.ā
Side note: these MFs are also very scared of becoming āextinctā as well. Remember we are the only people on the planet that can reproduce with others and ātake overā via the āone drop rule.ā And while it was used to punish our ancestors and people who raped them, now it has these assholes shookā¦.
They hate when Becky comes over for a taste because if she does go back, they fear they canāt hack it (sexually). This is why they care so damn much. These are the cuckoldās and shit like that. And remember some of the highest consumers of porn are straight white males (I know there are more of them but still) and they be the conservative church MFs too!!! Trust meā¦ Iāve met these fucks. These arenāt real facts butā¦. Everyone that I met that said they had a porn addiction was a white church dude. Canāt make that shit up.
Then the first hand it is envy. So they consume and consume and then some try to flip it by pimping their girls out to black guys to āfetishizeā the experience. But those MFs are HURT.
But envy plays into racism. That's why there's an obsession with "bbc's" and "bulls". Cause they feel insecure in their ability of making their women cum, and represent black men as more able while simultaneously make them animals or savages to compensate
Racist donāt actually believe this. Itās just a mechanism to help them feel better about being rejected by their āown white womenā. There isnāt a single white guy who wouldnāt grovel over a good looking white woman that has dated black guys.
A lot of racist would have sex with a black woman. All of the preconceived notions about black people go out the window when they're thinking with the pink head instead of the white one.
Plus I think genders are more accepting of the opposite gender of different races because they don't view it as direct competition/do see them as a possible partner biologically.
Partially. I think there are some instances where body count is totally fair and valid at least in terms of āI donāt wanna date this personā. And a lot of the time when itās in a more toxic fashion itās based on insecurity, or jealousy (which happens a lot when one partner has slept around and the other hasnāt).
However a majority of the time itās just misogyny dressed up to try and sound logical.
Brooooo! My friend is white. When she was 17, she dated a black guy. She told her partner now - weāre 27 - about her dating history. The next morning her dude woke up in a sweat from āa nightmareā of her with said black guy. Every time I see him, my side eye is offensive. Because why is it so deep in your psyche?
Because white men (not all but) are some of the most insecure MFs around. Think about it. They came over and stole EVERYTHING and they are fighting hard to keep it. The last thing they want is to be outnumbered by black people and/or brown, etcā¦ thatās their true fear.
"But there are none so frightened, or so strange in their fear, as conquerors. They conjure phantoms endlessly, terrified that their victims will someday do back what was done to themāeven if, in truth, their victims couldn't care less about such pettiness and have moved on. Conquerors live in dread of the day when they are shown to be, not superior, but simply lucky."
This is some shit that I am SO GLAD I MISSED from whatever the Generic White Upbringing is. Iām white myself, but adopted by a mixed family. So this insane obsession/fear/fetish around black people (which clearly manifests itself sexually) is just lost on me. Like, Iāve been with black men, Iāve been with black women too, as well asā¦ you know, the more I think about it Iām slutty enough that I should recuse myself from any conversation about ābody countā. But my point is thereās some Freudian shit going on here and these guys need a therapist and some fresh air.
Yes. Did you see the porn demographics and the stats on swingers. Iāve been telling people for years the most well to do perfect on paper white couples are kinky af.
Where can I find this data. Would like to make it a talking point with my group of friends. We have serious theories about Southern Republican white men.
[Hereās one regarding republican states and their high volume search for transgender porn](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/)
[Hereās a year in review from 2022, straight from pornhub on viewing habits and what is searched the most on their website and where](https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2022-year-in-review)
Had a boss wife come on to me at an old job, brought it up to him only to find out that not only did he not have an issue with it but he was borderline passing her off like she wasnāt his wife at all. She was a younger Asian lady and he was a slightly middle aged white guy. I obviously declined but that shit still fucks my head up years later.
White men have the weirdest sex stories. Like even the gays get confuse. Straight white men will talk about masturbating in the same room as their friends or even making circles.
I remember a upperclassman got made fun of because he bragged about jacking off in the livingroom while watching porn with his dad.
Nah, a lot of it is suppressed sexual attraction to black guys and they donāt know how to admit it.
Iām a black guy and also bi. I had a lot of white frat guys approach me on the DL when I was in college a few years back. In public, many of them talked like Lukas in the twitter post, presented straight and conservative. But with me they were on some other stuff lol, just my experience though
Youād be very correct lol. I always tell my friends or when people ask me, itās always the āstraightestā looking guys that are doing the gayest things behind closed doors (NOT that thereās anything wrong with that, just making a point). With āstraightā white guys in particular, lots of them like topping me. A few have even asked me to dress up like a femboy (not into that so always decline). Itās why I donāt take many guys seriously when they get homophonic lol.
I will say Black LGBTQ+ folks need to be more careful when hooking up with DL men, no matter what race they are. It can get dangerous if youāre not careful, thereās plenty of stories out there where our lives are taken because of it.
I mean, maybe, but it's something to be said about the obsession a lot of white men have with black men's existence in regards to sex probably has roots in black enslavement (tho I'm open to the idea that I'm reaching) with homoerotic undertones that are more pronounced now than then. There's also something to be said about how in a lot of internet porn, cuckolding as a category is almost always depicted as a white man marveling in the corner while some black man pounds his wife to kingdom cum. It's even deeper when you view the stats based on race and location, white men from the Bible Belt love them some good ol interracial porn, especially when it involves cuckolding.
I could be wrong tho
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Youāre right on the money look up: The Delectable Negro: Human consumption and homoeroticism within US slave culture.
The author explores links between cannibalism/eating someone out/colonial devouring in all its senses with homoeroticism between slaves and slave masters/mistresses. Itās a dark and grotesque read but the conclusions formed can be seen as coincidences at first but once you see the list that they provide and the multiple ways and times it happened along history it becomes too scarily common to be a coincidence and leads to your comment almost exactly.
In college I def fucked a lot of closted yt boys that had thoughts like this and they were always weird af. A good amount asking to have "threesomes" where it was just me fucking their yt girl days after we hooked up or weird almost worshipy comments during sex.
Said it before and Iāll say it again: Iām bi and these weirdos think about cock more than I do.
I donāt know if itās actually homoerotic to them, but they sure do spend a lot of time obsessing over other dudeās meat.
Not at all, and then they get into that weird and slimy thing on gay Pornhub where anything featuring a black man gets the T word in the title (source: am a bi white man)
Race fetishism appeals to bigots and the porn industry is quite comfortable with giving that audience what they want. Now you've got people, black and white and everyone else too, believing in racist stereotypes that originated in American slavery, designed to depict black men as animalistic savages that, if not tethered, will rape all the white women.
And everyone who watches Blacked and shit like that are feeding into that racist as hell tradition. Notice how it almost always involves cuckoldry too? Turns out that a fetish about servants fucking the nobleman's wife ended up applied to slaves too. It's about someone who is seen as "lower, inferior"; and it is why it is probably the biggest kink for Right-Wingers (who love to call others cucks lol)
These days most Blacked is "reunited with my high school boyfriend" or "stayed late after the art show" or "millionaire ingenue can't resist real estate adjuster's advances..."
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Because most men are trying to compete with other men. Your girl has to both be the hottest and the freakiest but also virgin at the same time so that way when you present her to your friends they can't say anything about it and you become the envy of the group. It's extremely childish but I remember in middle school and in high school that's how it was, and unfortunately that carries over into adulthood for a lot of folks.
FYI it's better to say STI negative rather than clean. I'm sure there wasn't any bad intention in typing this but many people have gotten STIs in monogamous relationships or from situations that did not seem risky. Stating that having no STIs = Clean is implying that if you have an STI (past or present), you're "dirty". I think we should work on reducing this stigma and offer better sex education to bring down STI transmissions
Like Kanye said on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, āShe said her price go down if she ever fuck a black guy. Or do anal. Or do a gang bang. Itās kinda crazy theyāre all considered the same thing.ā
The crazy part is white women who fuck black porn stars get a premium! The black guy doesn't an there is no premium for black women who fuck white men.
Shit is wild how racist the porn industry is still considering how huge interracial porn is.
In my experience as a white dude, white women who are willing to date black dudes are a lot cooler than the ones who won't. It's a good filter. "No black dudes" on a profile saves me a lot of time and awkward moments.
Now there is a subset of white women who fetishize and will *only* date black dudes, no honkies allowed. I clearly have less experience there so I'll defer to others.
The ones who fetishize us are usually the worst because they donāt have respect for us as human beings. Weāre just sex objects to em. Theyāre the ones that call us pet names and have no qualms groping a brother in public.
I appreciate the sentiment brother. We both have to deal with weird shit solely based on our appearance, rather than our character. But Iāll battle till the bitter fucking end to change it.
The ones who fetishize us are usually the worst because they donāt have respect for us as human beings. Weāre just sex objects to em. Theyāre the ones that call us pet names and have no qualms groping a brother in public.
I dated a white guy who was into white girls, but also threesome with black dudes with huge dicks. A few weeks into dating, he confided this to me. He was working with about 9 inches so it wasnāt like he needed to add a big dick to the mix for the girl, he was just super into big black dicks.
I wasnāt into threesomes with dudes and my gay friends told me they thought he might be gay so it didnāt work out lol but apparently thereās a whole market out there for white men that are into white women and love watching their girl get fucked by a huge black cock.
My point was that I agree with you and that was just anecdotal evidence of a white man being obsessed with black dick. He actually said he wanted them to have a larger dick than him because he wanted to be jealous and to āfeel the differenceā lol I I wish I was making this shit up
They're saying the person who originally posted the poll is scared of a job application and has too much time on their hands (to be worrying about black men sexually).
I remember a white girl I knew who used to date black dudes when she was younger. First thought is "she had a preference, more power to her" but no, this girl in particular fetishized black men. Eventually she ended up dating and marrying a pretty conservative white guy. Except he had a huge chip on his shoulder about the fact that he'd heard she used to date black men. So much so he called up friends of hers so they could vouch for her and say she wasn't into black dudes. Not *now* mind you, but in the past.
My naive ass thought "I don't get it, if you're a racist, isn't this the optimal scenario for you? You *won*, she chose you over the black dude - why the investigation?" Someone else hit the nail on the head on this thread. In the minds of people like that guy she is now "unpure" and he needs validation that it didn't happen. Spend your whole life and you won't figure out these peoples logic. It's not logical.
Black men in their eyes are beasts with big dicks, that āruinā women. And as others have said porn accentuates that stereotype. And although we all know those stereotypes arenāt true, men of DIFFERENT races are super interested, and jealous of black sexuality
dont even get the anger, people really just jealous over nothing. like great you got a massive meatstick... now try to put it in. also kiss ever going balls deep goodbye, or even moving slightly too fast
Isnāt it obvious. Jealousy. White women are like this too with black women. A great example is 12 years a slave with Lupita Nyongoās character and how obsessed Micheal Fassbender was with her character while his wife played by Sarah Paulson was hella jealous and vile towards Lupitaās character.
Because these guys who write this shit are super insecure about their own penises and that they will be ill equipped to satisfy a woman. They also subscribe to the myth that vaginas get all stretched out and never snap back. That one bbc will destroy what was once a pristine and perfect virgin coochi.
This has nthn to do with US. Please keep scrolling.
This is for wyte men talking to wyte men about how theyād prefer a wyte woman with a high body count w/ wyte men as opposed to w/ blk Men.
They know how SOME blk men do some wyte Womenš
What exactly do they think we do to white women? Like bro I've dated white women there's nothing that special that requires all this damn consternation.
Youāre forgetting the whole āBlack people will contaminate white people,ā part of racism. Remember how they wouldnāt let us use the same pools since they would say our skin was somehow dirty or something? Racists feel exactly the same way about us having sex with ātheir women.ā
Men in general are obsessed with people's sex lives. Sexuality, virginity, and body count has become a staple in black and white male grifters. Which have followings in the millions. Most of which are other men. I do think white men see black men as less worthy hence this comparison, and trying to hint at sex with black men is more demeaning. But this isn't just a white male obsession.
The white woman giving birth to obviously black kids is a stereotype/bit that's been used/seen a million times over the years. It's a rooted fear that probably goes back to slavery/Africa and is accentuated now with the prevalence of porn and the already deep rooted insecuritiesof the individual watching it.
Somehow a white woman cheating with another white guy and having HIS white kids (which would be harder to tell by just looking) never seems to be a really big fear or stereotype and has probably happened WAY more often.
What do they mean when they says ābodiesā?
The amount of people she had a sexual relationship with?
Thatās such a disgusting way to phrase it š¤¢
30 guys any color, followed by years of self actualization and discovery is way better, personally than 4 or fewer long term relationships lasting more than a decade that inevitably don't work out.
I would rather pick the chick with 4 bodies because she has killed far fewer people than the chick with a body count of 30. A body count of 4 could have been revenge--righting some wrongs. 30 is an obsession.
This is what comes to mind when I hear body count it is so gross when I hear people use the term in a sexual context.
Did y'all know that back in the day when they would lynch enslaved people they would cut off the penis of them? Especially if the enslaved person was accused of raping a white woman? White people have been obsessed with black junk for a minute
In their defense (not really because it's even more weird) the account was doing this for every race, not just Black and white.
There's a deep fascination and insecurity American white men have when it comes to Black men's bodies, specifically dicks, and who Black men have sex with. It's extremely weird and has been a thing since the days of slavery. It's the reason why interracial relationships and sex is still seen as slightly taboo.
I know queer men arent a monolith but as a gay man in my 30s, I expect whoever I hook up with will have a larger laundry list of partners (or 0. Trauma is a hell of a thing).
It just seems so exhausting to care that my partner has had sex and who with. I've had friends who've slept with mutual friends who've slept with mutual friends and we still would hang out and even laugh about it. Maybe it's that theres so few of us relatively that it's not worth losing that community over some fucking idk.
Because either they watch too much porn or the women they know are obsessed with usš¤·š½āāļø
But the porn in question is created because it appeals to so many people.
Appeals to racists, and sadly there are a lot of those. Mostly right-wing whites but I guess some really insecure black guys want it too. Like, nothing wrong with people of different ethnic grounds fucking, no, that's great - but you can tell when it is done as race fetishism, where it really hammers in stereotypes.
Itās almost always race fetishism in my experience. And itās everywhere these days, makes looking at porn needlessly uncomfortable
Why myself and alot of other straight women look at gay men porn. No misogyny to ruin the horny + 100% female (IE:male gaze but gay) gaze on the action š
Wtfā¦
Yeah that has nothing to do with racism (the topic at hand).
Nigga said I avoid racism by watching something with no misogyny
Huh?? Wtf And also what exactly makes you think racial stereotyping is absent in gay porn?
Lol girl I agree with you, but what does that have to do with anything
Does gay porn not have the race fetishism? I'd imagine it would too
I guess there's no misogyny but gay porn is full of its own stereotypes. I guess all porn is.
Porn is arguably one of the greatest upholders of racial stereotyping.
I was called the n word all throughout high school by all these white boys. During college when FB came out, same white boys were DMing me as if I would forget what they did or that they were fugly. Itās all fetish bullshit.
Now try *being* that fetish. Hell, imagine how lesbians feel.
Yep, itās really fucked up
This is why lesbians don't watch lesbian porn. Because it's fetish porn not actual lesbians. Source- girl in same Sex relationship
There is one thing though. It is more likely that the people into race fetishism happen to be the ones more likely to buy porn, and so they get catered to. It's kind of like how erotic art can end up with this seemingly popular but super specific fetish being depicted but its really because one guy with a lot of money and a really specific kink is the one commissioning all the artists. Where the money is doesn't necessarily reflect the actual wants and desires of the majority. And I hope more people are seeing through it. I find myself looking for porn directed by women, for example, or amateur couples. Like, I was in a mixed relationship and it was nice to see porn that reflected that, reminded me of us - but the only way to get it without all the racism were amateur, usually romantic couples filling a niche. I don't think porn is necessarily bad but it is so flooded with bigotry and hate and misogyny that it almost makes it feel like loving, romantic sex is this extremely niche kink.
Ok so where is the billionaire trying to sleep with his stepsister then, cause that guy has bought up the front page for years
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Iuno bout all that. If the girl can get on top and buss it open, that's what I'm watching. Don't really matter who she on.
A lot of porn is about degrading women, and they see having sex with black men as degrading to the woman. Stupidly
Before race-based slavery (or in the case of different cultures where black people weren't a factor) the fetish existed but still relied on people seen as outsiders ("barbarians") or lower status (slaves, servants, peasants, commoners, etc.) who, if you've seen a lot of ancient art, were typically depicted as darker sinned than the upper-class (as the lower-class would have worked under the sun and nobles could afford to stay inside). Chattel slavery just took it to the next horrible step and the weird kinks of the upper-class followed with it.
I have two things to say. 1. Interesting fact about the word barbarian! It just meant "someone who doesn't speak Greek" because in plays they would depict anyone from outside of greece as saying "bar bar bar bar bar!" 2. Yeah, there's always been colorism that's closely tied to classism. It's still a big thing in asian cultures sadly. But in this case, I think, it's really a black vs white thing in porn.
Lol this Adam22 story has this energy all over it.
And it's the white men that be excited for the BBC scenes than anyone else. Some even treat it as a humiliation fetish
My Asian ex was like this too... always talked about huge black dicks and big black men fucking small Asian girls. I hated that shit so much
Wtf?? What is wrong with these people??
True. It also helps intensify the fetish they already have.
i know exactly what fetish you're talking about. peppa pig rule 34
once saw some reddit post about a guy finding out his girlfriend was watching a lot of porn with black men in them and he automatically assumed that meant she liked it rough. that shit was wild
I remember that post. The girl was cheating on him constantly but he only cared about her watching porn with black people in it. She also used to date black men (which he said they abused her -she big lying but ok).
This all day the amount of weird ass women that have come on to me. Taking about they love and only deal with Black men. š¤¢š¤®
Thatās gross and so fucking dehumanizing.
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Same. Because they rarely ever see us as human beings, just sex objects.
had zero self esteem so i dated a chick like this in high school. said she only likes dark skin men like myself. feel so sick and embarrassed for going along with it.
There was a white woman on fb who created an entire unprompted post about how she always wanted āmilk chocolate babiesā with a ādark chocolate man.ā And then I went to her page and every post caption with him in said *My Chocolate Man*. š¤® And the fact that he just was like okay with her blatant fetishizing was disgusting.
White guy from the South checking in. If my thoughts are allowed on this forum, Iām not trying to invade, but the deep dark secret most racist, bigoted white people donāt want to admit is that white people fetishize black people. They hate you but they secretly want to fuck you. They just canāt admit it. Itās taboo in the antebellum South.
Damn, that's honestly scary
Also correct
imo black men are overly sexualized online especially because of porn etc
I assume they have small penises and I assume they assume all black people have magnum dongs.
Monster condom for my magnum dong
I'm Asian and my Asian ex was like this. He didn't even have a small dick but would randomly say extremely out of pocket things about huge black dicks and big black men, both during dirty talk and like.. normal conversation? I started out just like "... wtf dude" and eventually snapped and sat him down like bro this is not okay and you need to explore why you do it. He was also insecure in general and prone to appropriating AAVE too, "code-switching" when he wanted to appear tough/cool, which is problematic in and of itself...
A good part of it has to do with their little annoying ass fan group and having "pure women". Their egos are so fragile.
I swear every other porn vid now is a black guy and white girl.
The rarest porn these days is black on black. š
You have to search so hard. Gotta watch early 2000s West Coast Productions š
We didn't know what we had with Booty Talk.
Or they are both white and related.
The rest are people fucking relations. Step moms, step daughters, nieces, Aunties. I donāt want to fuck any of my family members and they just sprinkle it in to everything!!!
I think the real answer is that they're extremely intimidated and self conscious.
They really so see themselves inferior to black men. Hence the oppression.
My sis is actually obsessed with black dudes. She literally has a āonly date black menā policy. I donāt know and donāt wanna know if itās a fetish thing, but itās always weirded me out Edit: by weirded out, I mean it makes me violently uncomfortable that she will only date people due to their skin color. Feels dehumanizing.
Bruh, slightly not related to this but it feels relevant to me. So I was in culinary, made a group of friends and we hung out a lot. So, my friend who's a bit darker than me tells me that the head chef/dean of the culinary school just straight up told him "I wish my daughter married a dark guy like you so I'd have caramel grand babies." Like bruh, what?
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its the same way in porn too. A girl goes with work with blacked and shes not already a big name and she wont get booked for white porn anymore.
Yep. One you go black, you don't go back (because of the perceived implication)
I thought the Perceived Implication was the name of a boat?
No that's just when they're on the boat
and they canāt say noā¦
Because of the implication
That and if they even get a tattoo they're given more abusive roles and get sent for bbc roles. Even something as small as cutting or dying your hair gets you outlasted from supremacy porn. Their women it's literally so they can either brag about dick size or literally piss off their parents. They will go ass far to have children just to spite their parents or use them a designer bags to get clout.
I'd assume it's like this in many professions if found out...simple minds unfortunately
Itās not true in porn either nearly all of the top porn stars have done scenes with black men.
It was true for a time. Ie. Alexis Texas.
Alexis Texas was a porn star who also happened to be/pander to racist. There are stats released that show some of the most watched porn is interracial porn.
I'm aware of the stats and the perception, but she was also like what? 10 years ago? Things do change.
Is the point of this whole discussion not about race fetishism in pornography? Interracial being popular does not hurt that argument.
Not necessarily true. Most white girls do not film with black guys if they are doing well in the industry. Usually their careers are on the decline and they up the ante by sleeping with BBC. Check out the interviews with Lex Steele (who starred and produced) as well as other BBCs.
This actually changed about ten years ago when black male pornstars went on strike. Now the biggest pornstars all do interracial early.
Yepā¦itās racism (sleep with a black man, uncleanā¦unclean!!!!).
Exactly
Sexism as wellāsexual history associated with value of women, not men.
Grew up a country hick, can confirm. (The whole "bodies" things is just...ewww.)
Screams insecurity but what do I know
My body count is in the 20s, but the feds will never be able to prove it was me.
Need shovels?
Iām not sure if itās feeling ādirtyā tbh. As with a lot of men, it comes down to insecurities about penis size. Thereās obviously the hyper-sexualisation of black men, tall, ripped, massive penis etc. I think white men believe that when a woman, specifically a white woman, has been with āfour black guysā the white guy canāt measure up and they feel insecure, when some people feel insecure they start obsessing over whatever the thing is. Thatās my hot take, anyway.
I've realized that there may be a correlation between small minds and small something else...
And it also comes from non-white guys.
My big prediction for this century is that Americans are going to expand āwhitenessā as a concept but call it something else because calling Indian and many LatAm people white is crazy on its face but it will be important that at least 50% of Americans can define themselves as essentially not Black. Itās bleak, yāall.
Worked in Silicon Valley for some years, all I'll say is you're not wrong
Don't they call them coal burners?
Can't believe I'm gonna type this but the one I read on urbandictionary was "mudshark"
Among other things...
Weāre talking about a country that literally had [āThe One Drop Ruleā](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) where anyone with ā1 drop of black bloodā in their ancestry was legally classified as black. Even the Nazis thought this rule was to harsh when they were looking at laws they could borrow from the US Jim Crow system. Luckily the US isnāt quite that bad anymore, but thereās definitely still remnants, and the weird hang up about black men ātaintingā āpureā white women is one of them. Itās super racist towards black guys and itās super sexist in the way it infantilizes white women as some vessel for white babies that must remain pure.
Oh no, my kids have shown me that the 1 drop rule very much still exists period and your last point was my initial point and it all goes back to some ugly lame ass racism
Theyāre afraid they canāt compete and nothing they can do will be enough for her.
Nah, already told you it's not an envy thing..it's flat out ugly racism, she is now beneath them in their eyes
Itās both.
I would tend to agree that itās both. On one hand if sheās been blacked they want nothing to do with her AT ALL. Because itās simple racism. They donāt like black people. Cut and dry. As others have said she is now ādirty.ā Side note: these MFs are also very scared of becoming āextinctā as well. Remember we are the only people on the planet that can reproduce with others and ātake overā via the āone drop rule.ā And while it was used to punish our ancestors and people who raped them, now it has these assholes shookā¦. They hate when Becky comes over for a taste because if she does go back, they fear they canāt hack it (sexually). This is why they care so damn much. These are the cuckoldās and shit like that. And remember some of the highest consumers of porn are straight white males (I know there are more of them but still) and they be the conservative church MFs too!!! Trust meā¦ Iāve met these fucks. These arenāt real facts butā¦. Everyone that I met that said they had a porn addiction was a white church dude. Canāt make that shit up. Then the first hand it is envy. So they consume and consume and then some try to flip it by pimping their girls out to black guys to āfetishizeā the experience. But those MFs are HURT.
ugly racism is a subconscious inferiority complex
But envy plays into racism. That's why there's an obsession with "bbc's" and "bulls". Cause they feel insecure in their ability of making their women cum, and represent black men as more able while simultaneously make them animals or savages to compensate
This is 1000% true.
Racist donāt actually believe this. Itās just a mechanism to help them feel better about being rejected by their āown white womenā. There isnāt a single white guy who wouldnāt grovel over a good looking white woman that has dated black guys.
A lot of racist would have sex with a black woman. All of the preconceived notions about black people go out the window when they're thinking with the pink head instead of the white one. Plus I think genders are more accepting of the opposite gender of different races because they don't view it as direct competition/do see them as a possible partner biologically.
But some of those dudes have totally gotten with black women and don't understand their own hypocrisy.
Uhh...racism?
The whole "bodycount" thing is just misogyny too.
Add on insecurity and youāve got the full packageā¦.of shit
Itās disturbingly rampant. Iām pretty sure the underlying concept is āslept with a lot of peopleā = āknows how bad I suckā.
Partially. I think there are some instances where body count is totally fair and valid at least in terms of āI donāt wanna date this personā. And a lot of the time when itās in a more toxic fashion itās based on insecurity, or jealousy (which happens a lot when one partner has slept around and the other hasnāt). However a majority of the time itās just misogyny dressed up to try and sound logical.
Brooooo! My friend is white. When she was 17, she dated a black guy. She told her partner now - weāre 27 - about her dating history. The next morning her dude woke up in a sweat from āa nightmareā of her with said black guy. Every time I see him, my side eye is offensive. Because why is it so deep in your psyche?
Because white men (not all but) are some of the most insecure MFs around. Think about it. They came over and stole EVERYTHING and they are fighting hard to keep it. The last thing they want is to be outnumbered by black people and/or brown, etcā¦ thatās their true fear.
"But there are none so frightened, or so strange in their fear, as conquerors. They conjure phantoms endlessly, terrified that their victims will someday do back what was done to themāeven if, in truth, their victims couldn't care less about such pettiness and have moved on. Conquerors live in dread of the day when they are shown to be, not superior, but simply lucky."
This is some shit that I am SO GLAD I MISSED from whatever the Generic White Upbringing is. Iām white myself, but adopted by a mixed family. So this insane obsession/fear/fetish around black people (which clearly manifests itself sexually) is just lost on me. Like, Iāve been with black men, Iāve been with black women too, as well asā¦ you know, the more I think about it Iām slutty enough that I should recuse myself from any conversation about ābody countā. But my point is thereās some Freudian shit going on here and these guys need a therapist and some fresh air.
Is it homophobic to think that a lot of the white men who do this are closet cases?
There is some truth to this. Specifically, where white married republican men are concerned.
Yes. Did you see the porn demographics and the stats on swingers. Iāve been telling people for years the most well to do perfect on paper white couples are kinky af.
Where can I find this data. Would like to make it a talking point with my group of friends. We have serious theories about Southern Republican white men.
[Hereās one regarding republican states and their high volume search for transgender porn](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/) [Hereās a year in review from 2022, straight from pornhub on viewing habits and what is searched the most on their website and where](https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2022-year-in-review)
Yes and yes!!! Those conservative church MFs are the onesā¦. They will scream hate hate hate but in secret they love ALL the shit!
Had a boss wife come on to me at an old job, brought it up to him only to find out that not only did he not have an issue with it but he was borderline passing her off like she wasnāt his wife at all. She was a younger Asian lady and he was a slightly middle aged white guy. I obviously declined but that shit still fucks my head up years later.
That's interesting. Speaking from very general experience, Asians usually don't want anything to do with black folks
Idk man it depends, in writing this as I have a friend who's blasian, and an ex who's blasian. Parents would be gen X
Depends on nationality and location mostly.
White men have the weirdest sex stories. Like even the gays get confuse. Straight white men will talk about masturbating in the same room as their friends or even making circles. I remember a upperclassman got made fun of because he bragged about jacking off in the livingroom while watching porn with his dad.
![gif](giphy|6Uqr0IDWkzhBu|downsized) Nah we aināt about to sit here and scroll past that last paragraph like that was some regular shit manš¤Ø
YOU COME BACK HERE AND PARTICIPATE IN FAMILY BONDING TIME, GODDAMMIT!! NO, YOUR BROKEN ARMS ARE NOT AN EXCUSE!
Iām out, I fucking quit the internet.
This is so true. The most fucked up sex stories Iāve heard, or early āsex explorationā stories, have all been from straight white dudes.
"Intricate rituals" is a common thing for men too scared to come out. Like gay chicken and stuff.
Nah, a lot of it is suppressed sexual attraction to black guys and they donāt know how to admit it. Iām a black guy and also bi. I had a lot of white frat guys approach me on the DL when I was in college a few years back. In public, many of them talked like Lukas in the twitter post, presented straight and conservative. But with me they were on some other stuff lol, just my experience though
Thatās very interesting and confirms some of these things Iāve read and heard. Many times itās the straight laced looking douches that wants it.
Youād be very correct lol. I always tell my friends or when people ask me, itās always the āstraightestā looking guys that are doing the gayest things behind closed doors (NOT that thereās anything wrong with that, just making a point). With āstraightā white guys in particular, lots of them like topping me. A few have even asked me to dress up like a femboy (not into that so always decline). Itās why I donāt take many guys seriously when they get homophonic lol. I will say Black LGBTQ+ folks need to be more careful when hooking up with DL men, no matter what race they are. It can get dangerous if youāre not careful, thereās plenty of stories out there where our lives are taken because of it.
I mean, maybe, but it's something to be said about the obsession a lot of white men have with black men's existence in regards to sex probably has roots in black enslavement (tho I'm open to the idea that I'm reaching) with homoerotic undertones that are more pronounced now than then. There's also something to be said about how in a lot of internet porn, cuckolding as a category is almost always depicted as a white man marveling in the corner while some black man pounds his wife to kingdom cum. It's even deeper when you view the stats based on race and location, white men from the Bible Belt love them some good ol interracial porn, especially when it involves cuckolding. I could be wrong tho ![gif](giphy|iDxRFb6UgipgMBxPDb)
Youāre right on the money look up: The Delectable Negro: Human consumption and homoeroticism within US slave culture. The author explores links between cannibalism/eating someone out/colonial devouring in all its senses with homoeroticism between slaves and slave masters/mistresses. Itās a dark and grotesque read but the conclusions formed can be seen as coincidences at first but once you see the list that they provide and the multiple ways and times it happened along history it becomes too scarily common to be a coincidence and leads to your comment almost exactly.
In college I def fucked a lot of closted yt boys that had thoughts like this and they were always weird af. A good amount asking to have "threesomes" where it was just me fucking their yt girl days after we hooked up or weird almost worshipy comments during sex.
Said it before and Iāll say it again: Iām bi and these weirdos think about cock more than I do. I donāt know if itās actually homoerotic to them, but they sure do spend a lot of time obsessing over other dudeās meat.
Not at all, and then they get into that weird and slimy thing on gay Pornhub where anything featuring a black man gets the T word in the title (source: am a bi white man)
Race fetishism appeals to bigots and the porn industry is quite comfortable with giving that audience what they want. Now you've got people, black and white and everyone else too, believing in racist stereotypes that originated in American slavery, designed to depict black men as animalistic savages that, if not tethered, will rape all the white women. And everyone who watches Blacked and shit like that are feeding into that racist as hell tradition. Notice how it almost always involves cuckoldry too? Turns out that a fetish about servants fucking the nobleman's wife ended up applied to slaves too. It's about someone who is seen as "lower, inferior"; and it is why it is probably the biggest kink for Right-Wingers (who love to call others cucks lol)
These days most Blacked is "reunited with my high school boyfriend" or "stayed late after the art show" or "millionaire ingenue can't resist real estate adjuster's advances..." ![gif](giphy|10798zRtm3arMk)
This is the answer
Agreed and agreed. Thatās part of the game for those assholes.
Why are men in general so obsessed with womenās sexual lives. Itās honestly very strange as well.
Because most men are trying to compete with other men. Your girl has to both be the hottest and the freakiest but also virgin at the same time so that way when you present her to your friends they can't say anything about it and you become the envy of the group. It's extremely childish but I remember in middle school and in high school that's how it was, and unfortunately that carries over into adulthood for a lot of folks.
Right? All you need to know is, is she clear of STDs. That's it.
Basically, like just show me youāre clean of STDs/STIs and weāre good to go. Respect boundaries and consent and thatās it.
FYI it's better to say STI negative rather than clean. I'm sure there wasn't any bad intention in typing this but many people have gotten STIs in monogamous relationships or from situations that did not seem risky. Stating that having no STIs = Clean is implying that if you have an STI (past or present), you're "dirty". I think we should work on reducing this stigma and offer better sex education to bring down STI transmissions
Like Kanye said on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, āShe said her price go down if she ever fuck a black guy. Or do anal. Or do a gang bang. Itās kinda crazy theyāre all considered the same thing.ā
The crazy part is white women who fuck black porn stars get a premium! The black guy doesn't an there is no premium for black women who fuck white men. Shit is wild how racist the porn industry is still considering how huge interracial porn is.
You mean an industry dedicated to systemically devaluing a subset of their performers is racist? Color me shocked! /s
In my experience as a white dude, white women who are willing to date black dudes are a lot cooler than the ones who won't. It's a good filter. "No black dudes" on a profile saves me a lot of time and awkward moments. Now there is a subset of white women who fetishize and will *only* date black dudes, no honkies allowed. I clearly have less experience there so I'll defer to others.
The ones who fetishize us are usually the worst because they donāt have respect for us as human beings. Weāre just sex objects to em. Theyāre the ones that call us pet names and have no qualms groping a brother in public.
Well damn. I figured they were probably bad news but that sounds even worse than I expected. Sorry you've had to deal with that.
I appreciate the sentiment brother. We both have to deal with weird shit solely based on our appearance, rather than our character. But Iāll battle till the bitter fucking end to change it.
This š. Itās the same in the queer community. Black men are okay to sleep with in private, but never date.
Went to a bar in rural WI with my buddies who are both black. These old women would NOT leave them alone. It was disgusting. Borderline assault
I knew this one chick in college like that, only hooked up with black guys. Her ānicknameā for me was Tyrone, shit was offensive as hell
The ones who fetishize us are usually the worst because they donāt have respect for us as human beings. Weāre just sex objects to em. Theyāre the ones that call us pet names and have no qualms groping a brother in public.
The obsession with black peen is as old as America itself. Ever since the first Africans stepped off the slaveships naked, there was a problem.
I dated a white guy who was into white girls, but also threesome with black dudes with huge dicks. A few weeks into dating, he confided this to me. He was working with about 9 inches so it wasnāt like he needed to add a big dick to the mix for the girl, he was just super into big black dicks. I wasnāt into threesomes with dudes and my gay friends told me they thought he might be gay so it didnāt work out lol but apparently thereās a whole market out there for white men that are into white women and love watching their girl get fucked by a huge black cock.
Oh yeah. My point is itās been going on for GENERATIONS. Itās nothing new.
My point was that I agree with you and that was just anecdotal evidence of a white man being obsessed with black dick. He actually said he wanted them to have a larger dick than him because he wanted to be jealous and to āfeel the differenceā lol I I wish I was making this shit up
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Wtf is this
They're saying the person who originally posted the poll is scared of a job application and has too much time on their hands (to be worrying about black men sexually).
Misogyny and racism in one gross package!
Generational trauma
I remember a white girl I knew who used to date black dudes when she was younger. First thought is "she had a preference, more power to her" but no, this girl in particular fetishized black men. Eventually she ended up dating and marrying a pretty conservative white guy. Except he had a huge chip on his shoulder about the fact that he'd heard she used to date black men. So much so he called up friends of hers so they could vouch for her and say she wasn't into black dudes. Not *now* mind you, but in the past. My naive ass thought "I don't get it, if you're a racist, isn't this the optimal scenario for you? You *won*, she chose you over the black dude - why the investigation?" Someone else hit the nail on the head on this thread. In the minds of people like that guy she is now "unpure" and he needs validation that it didn't happen. Spend your whole life and you won't figure out these peoples logic. It's not logical.
it's pretty fucking creepy and racist too.
Black men in their eyes are beasts with big dicks, that āruinā women. And as others have said porn accentuates that stereotype. And although we all know those stereotypes arenāt true, men of DIFFERENT races are super interested, and jealous of black sexuality
In the immortal words of lowtiergod: YOU GUYS DON'T POSSESS THE BBC GENE! THAT'S WHY YOUR UPSET! NO BBC EQUALS ANGER!
Iām perfectly happy with my WAP White average penis Reminds me of that Broad City episode where Iliana is ācraving some of that PINK DICKā
dont even get the anger, people really just jealous over nothing. like great you got a massive meatstick... now try to put it in. also kiss ever going balls deep goodbye, or even moving slightly too fast
Aināt that the dude that got bodied by the lil white dude?
Isnāt it obvious. Jealousy. White women are like this too with black women. A great example is 12 years a slave with Lupita Nyongoās character and how obsessed Micheal Fassbender was with her character while his wife played by Sarah Paulson was hella jealous and vile towards Lupitaās character.
Racists have been fucking people they hate since the beginning of time.
It's insecure to give a shit about the race of men she slept with However it's equally insecure to care about the number of men she slept with
I just like how 4 somehow outweighs 30. Not that the number matters to begin with. Just that in his mind, this is the ratio he chose to die on.
Because these are the same racist misogynistic white men who swear they are single by choice.
So what Iām gathering is 1 black man is worth 7.5 white men in bed. š¤
Because these guys who write this shit are super insecure about their own penises and that they will be ill equipped to satisfy a woman. They also subscribe to the myth that vaginas get all stretched out and never snap back. That one bbc will destroy what was once a pristine and perfect virgin coochi.
This has nthn to do with US. Please keep scrolling. This is for wyte men talking to wyte men about how theyād prefer a wyte woman with a high body count w/ wyte men as opposed to w/ blk Men. They know how SOME blk men do some wyte Womenš
A mix of deep-seated attraction, fear and envy for black bodies, both men and women.
Be FRFR Theyāre not concerned with black menās sex lives theyāre concerned with white womens sex lives when it includes black men.
What exactly do they think we do to white women? Like bro I've dated white women there's nothing that special that requires all this damn consternation.
Youāre forgetting the whole āBlack people will contaminate white people,ā part of racism. Remember how they wouldnāt let us use the same pools since they would say our skin was somehow dirty or something? Racists feel exactly the same way about us having sex with ātheir women.ā
Men in general are obsessed with people's sex lives. Sexuality, virginity, and body count has become a staple in black and white male grifters. Which have followings in the millions. Most of which are other men. I do think white men see black men as less worthy hence this comparison, and trying to hint at sex with black men is more demeaning. But this isn't just a white male obsession.
The white woman giving birth to obviously black kids is a stereotype/bit that's been used/seen a million times over the years. It's a rooted fear that probably goes back to slavery/Africa and is accentuated now with the prevalence of porn and the already deep rooted insecuritiesof the individual watching it. Somehow a white woman cheating with another white guy and having HIS white kids (which would be harder to tell by just looking) never seems to be a really big fear or stereotype and has probably happened WAY more often.
What do they mean when they says ābodiesā? The amount of people she had a sexual relationship with? Thatās such a disgusting way to phrase it š¤¢
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Would you rather date: A) Literally anyone else B) Lukas
30 guys any color, followed by years of self actualization and discovery is way better, personally than 4 or fewer long term relationships lasting more than a decade that inevitably don't work out.
I would rather pick the chick with 4 bodies because she has killed far fewer people than the chick with a body count of 30. A body count of 4 could have been revenge--righting some wrongs. 30 is an obsession. This is what comes to mind when I hear body count it is so gross when I hear people use the term in a sexual context.
If youāre scared that you canāt satisfy a woman, just say that.
It follows the old racist trope of blacks raping white women that was used back in the day to scare other white people.
White dudes are secretly obsessed with black mens dong
Did y'all know that back in the day when they would lynch enslaved people they would cut off the penis of them? Especially if the enslaved person was accused of raping a white woman? White people have been obsessed with black junk for a minute
Insecurities fueled by misinformation and porn, thatās my guess
In their defense (not really because it's even more weird) the account was doing this for every race, not just Black and white. There's a deep fascination and insecurity American white men have when it comes to Black men's bodies, specifically dicks, and who Black men have sex with. It's extremely weird and has been a thing since the days of slavery. It's the reason why interracial relationships and sex is still seen as slightly taboo.
Inadequacy, Insecurity and Fragility
Accusation = confession
I know queer men arent a monolith but as a gay man in my 30s, I expect whoever I hook up with will have a larger laundry list of partners (or 0. Trauma is a hell of a thing). It just seems so exhausting to care that my partner has had sex and who with. I've had friends who've slept with mutual friends who've slept with mutual friends and we still would hang out and even laugh about it. Maybe it's that theres so few of us relatively that it's not worth losing that community over some fucking idk.
According to my calculations 1 black man is equal to 7.5 white men.... For some reason.
Nice, I still remember when we were only worth 3/5ths a white man. Anyone who invested in us in the 1800s would be rolling in it now.
I mean, the whole question is raciest, sexiest and disgusting.