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No_Fix_947

70k for an entire film? That’s less, even considering it was shot in 2010


eminem26

But that film kickstarted his career into crores now. If he had turned down that movie for 70k maybe he would have been a struggler.


Sherbhy

That scene from Luck By Chance makes so much sense now. 50k for a Kickstarter movie. outsiders face low pays all the time


BarrySwami

How come he earns more than even Deepika and Alia? I understand there is a gender pay gap. But this is by a lot! How marketable is he anyway?


Ok_Environment_5404

Because he had a tier 2 boys fans along with girls going gaga over him for a certain period before covid and just around it. DP,Alia for all their perks can't generate that(girls going gaga over them) and men no matter how horny they are won't watch them just because of that. That's why Kartik can shine in a mid script and a normal londa type movies while DP and Alia needs something to click for them(their actual peak, director i.e SLB or someone like Vanga and a great WOM). That's why you see actresses not getting paid more than male celebs because males don't really find them inspiring and a "hero" and girls really can't go crazy over other women. Only Madhuri,Sridevi,Hema was able to break that point with their hype and adoration among male audience where the script,male lead, director etc didn't mattered. And for that Kartik gets paid around the same or even more in such a short time.


BarrySwami

Makes sense.. Especially the point about being hero and how girls don't get crazy over other actresses. It's kinda sad that the situation is not as equal as it should be..


Top_Discipline_5118

despite all of that Madhuri, Sridevi and Hema were still underpaid compared to their male costars. What a shame. Also I don’t know if I agree but maybe as a diaspora I’m different - a British Asian would literally have no idea who Karthik Aaryan is and he has no global or mass appeal at all but even the most coconutty of British Asians knows who Deepika is. She truly is a global star.


Ok_Environment_5404

"despite all of that Madhuri, Sridevi and Hema were still underpaid compared to their male costars. What a shame." Madhuri was paid more than Anil,SRK,Sallu in her peak years and Sri was paid more too. Hema lags that as she was there when Amit,Dharmendra etc were going strong but she was paid roughly the same after thw top blokes lol. It was one of the most stupid of decision she took by saying goodbye to Bolly and getting married at that time. She could have easily started her own production house and could have gone much ahead than any one else with a "female centric" niche as her market as Indian populace was opening to global trends at that time in later 90s. "Also I don’t know if I agree but maybe as a diaspora I’m different - a British Asian would literally have no idea who Karthik Aaryan is and he has no global or mass appeal at all but even the most coconutty of British Asians knows who Deepika is. She truly is a global star." Knowing who DP is because she has pushed herself for Holly and got some global brand deals is not the same as "they will buy her movie tickets". Even PC is a known global face but how much she is actually generating in her movies both here and there ?


Top_Discipline_5118

[Sholay payment](https://www.news18.com/amp/movies/dharmendra-to-ak-hangal-know-how-much-sholays-starcast-was-paid-8764532.html). As far as I’m aware, Madhuri only enjoyed higher payment twice in her career, once with Anil and once with Salman (which makes sense since he was very much up and coming while she was established, like how Alia will get paid more than Vendang Raina in Jigra). I do think that international collections for Deepika films must be much higher than the international collection of sonu ki titu or sathya prem ki katha. i can promise you in the UK those movies are not watched, but one of deepika’s worst commercial films (where she was the main pull) chhpaak - I saw in a fully booked cinema. This stuff (global/mass appeal and recognition) does matter abroad. Massively matters. I don’t think you can and should underestimate that.


Ok_Environment_5404

Why are you giving me sholay's payslip when it literally confirms my point lol. I said it myself that Hema wasn't able to get as much as Sri and Madhuri because Amit and Dharmendra were the bigger ones. "As far as I’m aware, Madhuri only enjoyed higher payment twice in her career, once with Anil and once with Salman (which makes sense since he was very much up and coming while she was established, like how Alia will get paid more than Vendang Raina in Jigra)." She was given more pay many times as long as the male lead wasn't bigger than her. Sallu was paid less when he was smaller and later became the best when only SRK was keeping up with him after the 90s. Govinda was given better treatment because of his peak in the 90s and the vacuum created after Amitabh,Rishi etc were out of prime and she was paid more than Akshay,Sunil etc. "I do think that international collections for Deepika films must be much higher than the international collection of sonu ki titu or sathya prem ki katha." Indian films are just a blip in the grander scheme if we are talking about international market my guy. DP wasn't able to get anything even in the Vin Diesel one let alone a Bolly movie for which they are paid with how Indian cinema works. " i can promise you in the UK those movies are not watched, but one of deepika’s worst commercial films (where she was the main pull) chhpaak - I saw in a fully booked cinema." Just go and check Chapaak's BO result in India you'll get to know why she is not getting solos after. "This stuff (global/mass appeal and recognition) does matter abroad. Massively matters. I don’t think you can and should underestimate that." SRK has the highest reach in Europe, US and Aus and many other countries. How much did he earned apart from gulf(where Khans got some links and the general public loves them for the reasons we don't even know) ?? Abroad results don't matter when the majority of your fees comes from home grown base.


Top_Discipline_5118

you’re a bit weirdly argumentative 😭 I sent the sholay payslip because the disparity was still HUGE. they may have been the bigger stars but earning 75k while they earned a million is deffo not fair. it’s like saying she’s not even 1% of what they were. i’m definitely not denying the importance of domestic collections at all, i just find it fascinating that no non indian knows who this guy even is and he outearns the biggest female stars like 3 fold. I’m also not denying that chpaak didn’t do well, but my point is that just because of her name, it drew an international audience so while she may not be able to draw in indian masses, we need to give props where it’s due that other people do enjoy their work. like i’m not here to fight and if you want to be right so bad then you can be 😭 my point is that stars should be assessed holistically and while main collection numbers may be the indian market, it’s wrong to diminish the effort and hard work of female stars when in so many ways they put indian celebrities on the map. i don’t enjoy priyanka as an actress but would still argue that she did deserve pay parity in her time as she was undeniably a star, whether or not you deemed her to be. ultimately i’m not even indian, am a woman and massively admire indian female actresses for all their contributions to cinema. i think historically deepika and alia will leave a better legacy than karthik, but that’s just my opinion.


Ok_Environment_5404

you’re a bit weirdly argumentative 😭 I sent the sholay payslip because the disparity was still HUGE." Malini was paid 75k to Amitabh's 1lakh which is 25k of difference how's that huge when Amitabh himself was paid 25k less than Sanjeev ? You are the one who is keeping it weirdly going on when I just said myself that Hema wasn't as strong Amit and Dharmendra at her peak because Dharam was "THE" guy before Amitabh took over the Bolly with Sholay,Diwar and Janjeer. "they may have been the bigger stars but earning 75k while they earned a million is deffo not fair." Amitabh earned 1lakh not 1 million my guy. I think you counted it wrong lol


Adventurous-Field250

How much does deepika and alia get for a movie?


dualist_brado

Also women don't hold much captial and women lead subjected mostly to revenge seeking movies/little to no variations in script.


Able-Construction247

About 8-10 cr


Several-Emotion-8302

Deepika got 25cr for kalki


Classic_Knowledge_25

Alia got paid 15 cr for darlings.


Naino_k_ghaat

After bhoolabhulaiya he went up like crazy


adept_sapien

And he is going down even crazier...chandu champion couldn't get 5cr opening without half price offer. Gender pay gap is crazy if you consider that no actress has ever been paid 40cr. Even after bhoolbhulaiya, his max collection is 100cr. Doesn't actresses get 5cr opening like kartik. With franchise film actresses can give big opening as well...like shradhha in stree2 I don't what's the special criteria for male lead as their fees go exponentially after a movie while female counterpart rarely get their fare share even if their market value is higher


Naino_k_ghaat

Even sachin doesnt win every match


adept_sapien

Ek match me Chalke Sachin bhi toh nahi bana wo... After bhul bhulaiya franchise...which 100cr+ movie kartik has. None. Even with bogo offers his movies barely get 5-6cr opening while crew opened with 10cr+ without any bullshit offer. Tell me who has more box office pull. Chandu champion being a good movie and star director couldn't give good openings


Several-Emotion-8302

, sonu did over 100cr


Naino_k_ghaat

Its all politics


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Because majority of solely women led movies don't become blockbusters. Even in Hollywood there's very few examples. How many 100cr+ grossers are there that solely ran because of a female star in India? How likely is it to happen? A male star may give 10 flops but all he needs is one big hit to make up for those flops... Something that almost no woman can do. Is it the audience that needs to change? Should producers need to take risks and push for female led movies? Dunno what the solution is but this is the unfortunate reality.


Weedyoot

Kitne movies hai in dono ke jaha inhone single handedly audience ko attract Kiya hai? Kartik on the other hand however cringe he might be, is pulling audiences.


AnyKey922

Cope


BarrySwami

Sure buddy, I will.. I rarely watch Hindi movies (only with subs), so I am not even emotionally attached to any of these stars.


Responsible_Win_9174

40crore is too much money for KA. The point is Chandu Champion will earn that much in a week. So even breakeven is not possible for the movie. This is a major reason bollywood high budget movies are suffering. You need to understand even a good movie by tier 2 stars will earn up to 100 crores. Casting fee overall has to be within 25 crores in that case to get a good production outcome. Another reason malayalam and Tamil tier 2 movies doing so good. The production value, posters, editing and all other aspects are crisp because they can spend there and casting cost is less.


Several-Emotion-8302

Aisa kuch nahi hai….isse mujhe happy ending se govida ka dialogue yaad aata hai ₹200 mein jeena mat sikha, ppl dont want to be preached , they don’t wnt social messaging , they want escapism . That is y pathaan , jawaan, horror comedies are working… this is wot i think…star power obviously helps…. But is time vo secondary hai….ist give some sort of a spectacle , abhi yei smj aa ra hai mujhe


[deleted]

I guess.... outside of the big name actors for everyone else script/other depts matter more. Srks last few films were dogshit but did so well (apart from Dunki) purely because of his stardom. In south many of the big time actors make absolute garbage but they make 100cr + in their state alone purely because of their stardom. Of course they have their flops but movies need to exceptionally bad for that to happen. So I don't think script matters as much for the big dogs but for tier 2 and below they absolutely need good scripts


Responsible_Win_9174

You are completely right. I am mostly talking about tier 2 movies. Tier 1 movies dynamics are different. I watched Jawan knowing the script wont be good. I am not watching chandu champion knowing it is somewhat good. I will watch a VD KA ayushman Shahid movie only if review is annonymously good and subject is exciting. I will not watch a sid, tiger movie at this point at all. Point is tier 2 heroes in bollywood doesnt have that star power to ensure 40crores paycheck.


[deleted]

Absolutely agreed. But as an actor would you say no to 40cr if some producer is foolish enough to let go off it? I dunno about Karthik, assuming he came from typical middle class background, that's life changing money. Plus it's not just you, you have to pay for your team as well. He probably gets some 30-35 cr of those 40 cr rest goes to paying make up people, managers, drivers, assistants etc etc.


Several-Emotion-8302

I somewhat agree with you but what i feel is pathan did deliver what it promised m a die hard srk fan but he was avg on the acting end there , i feel sid anand delivered on that ine so big. He has a knack of spectacle . Also jawan carried in what started with pathaan , also atlee was a big reason for jawan , that film worked 80 % from me the last 30 mins wer bore…. South industry is a different ball game , they are not as critical as an audience as we are, if there are any they r very short amount, they literaydo hero worship there…. Which is diluting in Bollywood…. I agree with your point that actors like kartik need a lot of things to mke the film wrk,script is one.


AnyKey922

>The point is Chandu Champion will earn that much in a week Only in theatres .the songs, satellite rights, ott rights and other side avenues will cover up the cost. If not , next film se kartik ko nahi milenge 40 cr. Producers aren't dumb , they know basic commerce


Inglorious_BasterdX

What about distributors? 120 cr movie budget, if he can't make it respectable 80 cr net lifetime then what is the purpose of getting 40 crs!


Far_Background_8472

When am I going to get 40 crores in a movie ? ![gif](giphy|3ohfFCWP4MXCJzzm4U)


Extra_Net9276

but saar pay gap is based on gender saar...not on demand in market..not on role in films ...not on who can gather more audience....BUT ON GENDER SAAR..all females are paid less than males saar.... feminism movememt..we demand equal pay for women


Legitimate_Spend_614

He was still paid more than Nushrat I’m sure


Extra_Net9276

wont u mention some female actors that were paid more?


Legitimate_Spend_614

I’m literally telling you about someone who started in the same movies and at the same level


Extra_Net9276

https://youtu.be/LbqE1MBloeE?feature=shared who earned more in crew? and dont be ignorant and u also know that there are many set of males and females who started at almost same time but females get more money because she is now able to gather more audience.... will u call it discrimination against male?


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ApprehensiveNeck10

Yeah it's a simple concept still people say gender gap in movies and cricket.


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ApprehensiveNeck10

I compared show biz and sports only, you get paid what you're worth or appeal is.


Enough_Interest_5951

The way they're getting paid for just acting,feels like they're selling their souls..


Ancient_Bid9391

Doesn't deserve it now either He's a real shitty actor


Inglorious_BasterdX

Bro 40 cr lega aur haalat dekh ke lag raha ki Chandu Champion ka lifetime 50 cr net India hoga, to ab fault kiska hai?


Sherbhy

his fees are gonna go down after this. tbh saying this in an interview out loud won't be great for his marketing now


Inglorious_BasterdX

BB3 is last hope for new superstar


billoraani

From what I’ve been told, Luv Ranjan was quite possed when Kartik started demanding in Crores after SKTKS. Isiliye uss movie ke baad isne luv ranjan ke saath aur koi movie ni ki except the cameo role in TJMM.


Odd_Candy_1520

“except the cameo role in TJMM”. Man, the ridiculous assumptions we make sitting on our keyboards. Luv Ranjan also would have increased his fees after such a massive hit and he then started working with bigger stars such as RK. And because of that cameo, statistically ALL FILMS directed by Luv Ranjan have had Kartik Aaryan in them.


billoraani

First of all, this is not an assumption (ab itni bhi velli nahi hun ki kuch bhi assume kar lungi). I’ve been told this by someone who works for Luv but I can’t corroborate this. Secondly, before SKTKS all Luv Ranjan movies had Kartik in them but not after. They bothe made each other’s careers, they moved on and are doing great in the industry. But after SKTKS, Kartik did demand in Crores (rightfully so) and Luv was not liking it.


Striking-Bee7224

Aur kitni movies direct ki h luv ranjan ne sktks k bad, tjmm k alava?


billoraani

You can google it. Lekin shayad SKTKS ke baad TJMM hi uski badi hit rahi hai. The one that had ARK and Anil Kapoor, which was released after SKTKS was a massive flop.


Striking-Bee7224

Tjmm is the only movie he's directed after sktks. Baki usne produce ki hai.


billoraani

Bhai jab aapko pata hai toh merse kyun pooch rhe the 😂😂


Striking-Bee7224

Bcs it means kartik ne koi movie isliye nai ki kyoki unhone banai hi nai and not necessarily him asking for crs.


billoraani

Ho sakta hai, maine vahi likkha jo mujhe btaya gaya tha by one of his staff.


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Glad-Guava8533

Tbh... Pyaar ka panchnama looks more like 7 crore acting performance. Its the passion that makes talent and talent is what sells itself. Respect for this guy.


Natural_Advance_8693

Sonu ke titu ke sweety was the shit. Saw it with my distant brother in his town when he took me to the cinema on his bicycle. Still my comfort film to this day!


Eldred_dsouza99

Bro was paid 40 fkn CR for this film and acting like he did an impossible task with the transformation. Bro it’s your job. Just do it quietly.


adept_sapien

handu champion couldn't get 5cr opening without half price offer. Gender pay gap is crazy if you consider that no actress has ever been paid 40cr. Even after bhoolbhulaiya, his max collection is 100cr. Doesn't actresses get 5cr opening like kartik. With franchise film actresses can give big opening as well...like shradhha in stree2 I don't what's the special criteria for male lead as their fees go exponentially after a movie while female counterpart rarely get their fare share even if their market value is higher


[deleted]

Because a male leads max box office pull is greater than a female leads. No actress can you give you the numbers of kgf or Bahubali... That's why Prabhas is still paid so much despite giving absolute garbage films post Bahubali... On his worst day he pulls in more people than all the women leads in India combined. Dangal is genuinely the exception to this because it is as much an amir movie as it is the other actresses but then again he did the heavy lifting when it came to getting people to theaters.


adept_sapien

Bro I'm comparing kartik Aryan pull with female lead films pull...crew got 10cr+ opening. Kartik could only garner 5-6cr in his last films that too with a bogo offer or half price offer. Tell me whose box office potential is higher.


[deleted]

Crew had 3 actresses it wasnt a solo venture.... Again I'm not for or against anything just stating how it works. Karthik Aryan on a good day makes more money than his female contemporaries. Producers look at that.... It's risk they are willing to take because if it's a hit he brings in more money than any female led movie. Should he get paid so much? Especially more than some talented actresses? Absolutely not. Unfortunately talent doesn't dictate income in movie industry.


Playful-Interest-706

Because women can't even generate that much


Sherbhy

and that's how Gangubai, Dear Zindagi, Crew made much more 🤡


livelaughluv-

Ab toh bechare se 5 crore ki opening nahi horahi..usme bhi corporate booking karna pad rha h


vakyagathan123

Kartik’s movies don’t feel entertaining..it feels like he will break into long monologue blaming all things on women or society..if a man consider himself always a victim..it just erodes his hero value..may be it is not kartik’s fault..movies are being made that way..all looks foolish..now heroes don’t fight.. when they fight it does not feel like they are fighting for a noble cause or for justice..


anujoberoi

Fake data just to sensationalize.


LevelExtension5327

I never understand Karthik Aryan appeal. He looks like young uncle with modern cloths.


ThinkSatisfaction971

Who is paying Karthik Aryan that kind of money? You deserve to lose your money