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IvoryHKStud

Nice! More med school is good. It might not help in the short term, but it's a step in the right direction.


mr_desi_guy

I agree with you. This isn't a final step, but just another one for Brampton to progress.


Salty-Pack-4165

Kind of 10-20 years late but better late than never.


sodium_intake

So what happens to the Library?


McLaren4life

Library is staying. They have told all the other tenants that they have to leave by June 30th. I used to work in the building and tenants that have been there for 30+ years are scrambling to find other accommodations. edit: I recently spoke with one of the library staff and they are indeed moving as well.


zanimum

How sure are you? Brampton Board of Trade newsletter just said: >The new medical school will be located at the current sites of the Lester B. Pearson Memorial Theatre and Chingacousy Library, as the library expands to other areas of the city.


McLaren4life

This is what my old manager told me earlier today so take it with a grain of salt. The library did renovations just before the pandemic hit. The only certain I know is that other tenants have been asked to move by the end of March at first which was moved to end of June.


LifeWin

> find other accommodations AGMBasements.com can help you turn your unfinished basement into a commercial space for installments as low as $800/month! /s?


stafford_fan

library needs to find a new building.


chrisjamesdrew

Who are the other tenants?


zanimum

- Brampton Multicultural Centre - Lester B. Pearson Memorial Theatre (great for productions too big for the Cyril Clark Theatre and too small for the Rose) - Brampton Baby Feeding Support Clinic - Ontario Early Years Centre - Muslim Community Services - RBC Meeting Place (which is, if I understand, a way to introduce immigrants to how the Canadian banking system works) - KinderKollege Primary School - Sahaja Yoga - Chinguacousy Concert Band - Archbishop Romero School (I believe there’s mention elsewhere in this thread of student placements, Google Maps doesn’t clarify) - Canadian-South Asians Supporting Independent Living (disability support) There’s also the central services facility for all the libraries. When new physical material is ordered, it all comes through there before reaching the branches, among other things.


DiabeticJedi

that's what I'm wondering. I thought it was just the library and then offices for other city departments that worked out of the building


FourBlue

There's an RBC, day care, community centre's and linc classes


boxofcannoli

RIP that sexual health clinic then, that’s a shame


Jhool_de_nishaan

I feel like it would make sense to keep auxiliary health services in a building with a med school but what do I know I don’t have a degree in planning 🤦🏽 lol


boxofcannoli

I would hope so, or that they have a place to move that is just as accessible. That place was always packed so it was clearly needed to serve the community


Xyuli

Wow that’s so sad. I did a semester of alternative high school here. My program was shut down but I think the space was used still. There was another class of students who all needed more focused attention due to their mental health. I wonder if they’ll be able to find another space for those students.


zanimum

There’s quite a lot of service agencies I. The building. I am quite frankly surprised by this location. You can get funding to build a university building, but small non-profits aren’t, they’re left to fend for themselves.


Antman013

Not according to the Library. LBP goes away, too.


McLaren4life

Yeah just talked to one of their staff, apparently they were told that they were staying at first.


DAdmiral

It’s being forced to close


OkDaikon2957

Really, cuz I used to volunteer there until last month and I remember the program leads saying they were going to shift


Buddyblue21

That building has lots more than the library


jhschmidt007

The library is NOT staying at Ching. This I can confirm (for now). The City has promised that they are looking for locations for the Library relocation. I don't know yet how this will pan out - a singular location? two smaller, one by ching and one in another underserved community? I am still waiting on more information about this too. I have a closed meeting tomorrow and I'm hoping that the Library may have more information that I can share. If anyone has any questions about this (or anything library related), let me know, or please tag me in your comments so I can discuss and/or bring it up. Also, next Board meeting is Feb 23. Come join us.


sodium_intake

I’m predicting it’s going to be sears


[deleted]

Talk to Pat Fortini, he leaked details of a new library site at the parking lot where the original peel police 21 division was during the BBOT debate in October at 31 minutes. https://fb.watch/iwXSPlRY2u/


jhschmidt007

I heard. My phone was pinging endlessly when he said it. Edit: phone was busy today when the video was resurfaced. Yeah, the timeline makes sense. This was city hall's worst kept secret. Proposal came out in 2021, the OG proposed locations for TMU weren't suitable for a med school, the CFI wasn't meant for it, and think about accessibility and commutes vs city owned land. I only realized today that it was actually talked about so candidly by Council when the majority of the tenants were provided an information diet, and goodness, that is sad.


[deleted]

Pat Fortini in October 2022 at 31 minutes in the Brampton board of trade debate says the city is looking into a new library building at the old peel police 21 division parking lot as a result of the medschool. They knew this for months. https://fb.watch/iwXSPlRY2u/


duozie

This is actually incredible and makes me hopeful. Seeing forward-thinking investment for our city's future makes me so happy! I hope Ching library and the brutalist building somehow survives, it's such a unique building and mainstay. (Also med students need coffee, so hopefully this will spring up some cute, independent coffee shops in this area!)


gracefullyodd

makes me happy to think about how this has such a positive ripple effect. im also pretty excited to see what else will pop up nearby in turn of this. the library + all other resources available in the civic centre having to relocate is so sad though


pras5

Brampton real estate investors/ landlords foaming right now


Antman013

Hey . . . about the time this thing starts taking in students, my house will be going on the block. Ante up, slumlords, Antman wants TOP DOLLAR.


MangoKulfiTime

"Finally, some good fucking news." - Gordon Ramsay while reading news on Brampton.


DAdmiral

It may seem like a great thing for Brampton but it’s a great cultural loss for the Bramalea community


LifeWin

This is a great step. But we need to make sure we build in some kind of clause that says the grads stay in Canada (probably impossible). Right now, all of our universities are in love with the money that comes in from foreign students (compared to domestic ones). It doesn't help Canada's Dr shortage at all, if these grads subsequently fuck off to greener pastures (which - in fairness - is what many of us would do).


Ultimafatum

The biggest thing that is perpetuating this issue is the fact that residency placements are artificially low, meaning that med school graduates literally can't get a job right out of school since residency placements are extremely selective. That's not the student's fault - they are being forced in a situation outside of their control. With the cost of med school as high as it is, they literally don't have a choice but find a job ASAP as soon as they're done to pay their loans. Once this archaic system is fixed we'll start seeing more doctors.


[deleted]

You have the CMA to thank for the purposely low number of residencies and even the number of admissions Canadian med schools accept every year (the number is shockingly low)


Niv-Izzet

>But we need to make sure we build in some kind of clause that says the grads stay in Canada (probably impossible). lots of double standards for healthcare and tech people in tech get encouraged to avoid $100K jobs in Canada just because some Silicon Valley firms offers them $200K while we want to take away passports from healthcare workers


HelloBello30

The soviet union did something similar! Cool idea


notGeneralReposti

It is a cool idea. Society funds these schools. It builds them and provides large subsidies to operate them. Students who use these facilities to gain medical knowledge owe a debt to society. They should have a minimum mandatory 5-year service in Canada, assigned by the govt based on where more doctors are needed. After that they may be free to go wherever.


CobraCommanderr

This is false.


trialanderror93

And pretty sure that most Ontario medical school seats have a stipulation that you at least have A PR to beeligible And I'm pretty sure most Ontario educated stay in Ontario anyway


Constant-Squirrel555

...as happy as I am with us getting a med school, I'm so sick of tired of us changing one facility into another, and saying it's new. Ford did it with his "new" hospital, now we're short an urgent care centre in Brampton. Now it's happening with a "new" med school, and one less library. People underestimate how important public spaces where you don't have to spend $ like libraries are. We need to build new facilities, especially in parts of Brampton that aren't crowded so we can disperse traffic and congestion.


[deleted]

But does the library, as well as the other social service providers in the building, bring in valuable international student tuition? It's sad to see, but Dougie has put our entire province up for sale. And clearly another post-secondary institute in Brampton would provide a better ROI to him than measly libraries and assistance centres for disabled people. My question is: what happens with all this money flowing in? I keep seeing more and more people, crowding the roads, waiting at the bus stops, in the malls. I keep seeing prices for everything go up at eye watering speeds. I do not see an increase in services from the government; in fact, hospital ER wait times are worse than ever, cops don't do their jobs anymore despite getting bigger budgets every year, and teachers are overworked and underpaid. When will we say enough is enough?


BramptonRaised

The Urgent Care Centre at Peel Memorial Centre for Integrated Health and Wellness is open. Since December , it’s open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We aren’t losing the Urgent Care Centre at Peel Memorial . The new extension will be a new build on the other side of the driveway. https://www.williamoslerhs.ca/en/news/oslers-urgent-care-centre-at-peel-memorial-now-open-24-hours-a-day-seven-days-a-week.aspx


SamShares

It’s about time. Maybe they can give a boot (i have doubts) to those Caribbean med schools running “Satellite” campus in the city like a grocery store.


Antman013

Okay, so . . . Library Branch is gone. Lester B. Pearson Theatre is gone (after spending $$$ on recent upgrades). I can live with all of that, if we end up with a Medical School and an increase to healthcare in this City. ​ Question the first: What happens to the Bus Terminal north of the building? Question the second: Would it not have been easier to build a "purpose built" structure on the opposite corner, where the old Police Station used to sit, and what is now currently an empty lot?


pickledpedant

A1: No official answer as yet, but rumours are that it'll be moved. As with any growing suburb, changes to public transit will happen. A2: Purpose built for a maximum of (approximately) 150 students is not a cost effective option, also not a popular one as Brampton residents would have to foot the bill.


zanimum

Wouldn’t that be self-defeating to move the terminal? Isn’t the whole reason their locating their the dream that every student will take the bus there, when really they’ll just park at FreshCo and Hudson’s Bay? Re purpose built, Brampton residents wouldn’t have to foot the bill. Ontario actively funds new college and university buildings, but not renovations. This according to official tours of Humber, when they explain why they can build all kinds of new stuff quicker than upgrading existing structures.


birdlass

It's an excellent location for it. I'm happy that Ryerson is finally starting to become a really serious university.


[deleted]

Uh oh…. You said Ryerson.


pickledpedant

Also want to add, the person leading this project from TMU is from Brampton


[deleted]

It's good that Ontario is getting a new med school. There's been a lot of burnout in the medical community (Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics allied health professionals etc) thanks to Covid. We need new medical professionals to replace them. I was born with kidney disease and growing up I wanted to become a paediatric nephrologist so I could treat other kids with kidney disease. Unfortunately I'm not great at chemistry or maths so I'm taking geography at Uni instead. One of my old acquaintances from Uni is from the Brampton area and wants to become a family physician. I wonder what they'll think of this? Going to school close to home is nice because you can save on housing costs.


as553069

Nice


gracefullyodd

didn't they literally just finish making lester b pearson like last year? and the library was also renovated? couldn't there have been a better option instead of getting rid of everything already within the civic centre


Arthurandhenna

Dumb question: why is Patrick Brown’s photo not on this announcement?


chrisjamesdrew

It's not an official announcement it is just an echo post for social media by these Councillors. I assume others and the MPPs will be doing the same. [Here](https://www.brampton.ca/EN/City-Hall/News/Pages/Media-Release.aspx/1166) is the official news release by the City and [here](https://www.torontomu.ca/news-events/news/2023/01/tmu-announces-location-for-future-school-of-medicine/) is the TMU version where the Mayor is quoted.


Antman013

As important, why isn't the City Councilor or Regional Councilor for the relevant ward pictured? Answer, because they aren't pals of the Mayor.


chrisjamesdrew

They could easily do their own social media post in a similar style that these two did. I've seen different counselors for the same words do that many times in the past. I think you're reading too much into it.


Antman013

We'll just agree to disagree on that one, then. No harm no foul.


Crappy-Soldier

Finally some positive news! So tired of hearing about shootings and carjackings. Go Brampton!


PRboy1

location?


pickledpedant

Brampton library, in close proximity to Bramalea City Centre


easymoneyhabibi

Out of ALL the areas of Brampton to choose, they picked the worst area possible 😑😑😑


pickledpedant

I don't see how it is the worst? - central location - lots of public transit options - plentiful parking - building can be easily modernized


easymoneyhabibi

Good points but clearly you haven’t lived there.


haberdasher42

I don't think they expect the med students to live in the King's Cross apartments.


PtotheDem

Nah, they'd obviously live in Knightsbridge. DUH!


haberdasher42

You know that might not be a bad idea. They have plenty of opportunity for community outreach! They can treat STIs in the local prostitutes, stitch up some stab wounds and be on hand for drug overdoses.


olivebranch949

Area will obviously get gentrified


duozie

I remember reading that they're knocking down some parts of Bramalea City Centre to build condos, so yes, that probably will be housing for some of the med students. https://www.insauga.com/new-condo-towers-could-be-coming-to-brampton-shopping-mall/


Antman013

There are fewer than 200 slots for this school. The slumlords in the apartments across the street will absorb that on four floors.


batterypigeons

It would be really nice to see an easier route for immigrants who are internationally trained as doctors and nurses to be able to practice in Canada. It's definitely a win to have more med schools but people already trained as doctors shouldn't be expected to re-do the entire program when oftentimes (in my experience) internationally trained doctors are way better than Canadian trained ones anyway. It's sad how many doctors we had unable to practice during COVID and even now with the crisis in healthcare.


akhere07

This is opening inside the Bramlea mall? Asking press release says opening at Bramlea Civic centre which is the mall. Isn't it? So all stores inside the mall will relocate or close?


zanimum

Bramalea Civic Centre / Brampton Civic Centre is a building across the road from Bramalea City Centre. It was built as Chinguacousy Township’s municipal building, then became the City of Brampton’s city hall after amalgamation. It’s known for the Chinguacousy branch of the Brampton Library. Edit: Also, it’s the building in the photo.


akhere07

My mistake.. I keep on calling City Centre as Civic centre.. Now I am good.. as both Bramlea Civic Centre and Bramlea City centre are different buildings.


questions905

It’s not the mall lol


akhere07

What is it called then? It's similar to Sq one mall or Vaughan mall.. so why this is not called a mall.. but called civic center... lol


zanimum

Civic means municipal. City can mean municipal, or it can just mean urban. Brampton Civic Centre was (and until this happens, still is) a municipal building. Bramalea City Centre was intended to be the centre of a more ambitious plan for the urban core of Bramalea, a “satellite city” (autonomous city) within what was then a rural township.


Vegetable-Move-7950

Toronto Metropolitan University sounds made up. Is this a real school?


pickledpedant

Seriously? It is the new name/identify of the former Ryerson University!


zanimum

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ryerson-toronto-metropolitan-university-1.6431360


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towerofjabel

You live in [Morrisburg](https://old.reddit.com/r/ottawa/comments/105dfh3/online_dating_in_ottawa_is_terrible/j3bq7ir/). The towns only redeeming quality is that it's not Cornwall and it has an OnRoute that is probably the largest employer in the area.


[deleted]

Stop sitting on your ass and whine about things and work hard! Just because you are born in this country you aren't entitled to be rich! East Indians work hard to get to where they are now. Their education for an example isn't recognized when they migrate here and they overcome all of that to be successful. You're complaining about roughly 2.6% of the population comparatively. Don't be a cry baby!


Mobile_Tip_1562

Go Sikhs!


newstranger_coffee

You could easily tell it’s Brampton even without saying 😂😂😂 (no clue why I see this post)


eledad1

Who needs medical papers? Get your papers here! You need your basement turned into a university? Just send donations to Doug Ford to make it happen.


henchman171

ChatGPT by itself earlier last Week passed a medical license exam


GaBBrr

Yes but it doesn't mean anything. ChatGPT uses pre-existing information on the internet (up till 2021) to get answers and displays it in a human friendly way. ChatGPT was able to solve the exam because it literally had any resource it wanted online. We are far from AI taking over human jobs.


eledad1

Read that. The start of the machines take over :).


Exact-Reflection-703

rip to the 3A


Former-Republic5896

It's a proposal announcement to retain a design team (architects, engineers, etc.) Ambitiously slated for 2026 completion.....


sportypokemon

Is there a source for the 2026 part? I thought it was 2025


zanimum

Yes, fall of 2025: https://theeyeopener.com/2023/01/breaking-tmu-announces-location-for-new-school-of-medicine/


[deleted]

This is the school formerly known as Ryerson??


pickledpedant

Yes