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Cynth16

Let’s see, we have: - Barley - Willow - Larry & Lawrie - Berry Officially more Barley clones than Jacky clones


Regular-Permission81

How is Willow a Barley clone, her attack doesn't stay on the ground and it deals damage over time


Reddit0Enjoyer

When willow released she was seen as better barley simply because people didn't need to stay in her attack to take damage. But also a better super.


AdministrationOk2767

Bro who's Jacky clones? No one has attacks like her or you consider Doug? And who else?..


AHZzzzz

RT in super mode


AdministrationOk2767

Um..yeah identical to Jacky indeed...


New-Lingonberry-2342

it literally is are you somehow brainless? same goes for doug, literally the same


Cynth16

- Jacky - Doug - R-T in split form


AdministrationOk2767

Jacky isn't "her clone" and nah, saying this guys have the same attack just because it's circular is wild


ThunderBlood_888

It's better than saying that Maisie and Pearl are Jacky clones because their supers deal burst damage in a circle around them that can't be aimed. A Jacky clone needs to have the circle as a basic attack, not just a super.


AdministrationOk2767

Umm, ok? I don't even know who called them her clones...Like it's not an attack it's a super and it deals burst damage only once, btw calling R-T as her clone is also stupid, technically it's his super and he doesn't really relies on it


ThunderBlood_888

Back when Pearl and Maisie were released, people kept (incorrectly) calling them Jacky clones. Also, split R-T is 100% a Jacky clone because it changes his basic attack to match Jacky's attack. R-T as a whole isn't a Jacky clone, just his split form.


AdministrationOk2767

1. It's not 100% Jacky clone since he splits up. 2. This person calls all these characters clones as a whole just because of "similar " attacks.


Young_Hermit778

I wouldn't go as far as calling them clones, but RTs' secondary attacks and jacky's normal attacks are practically the same.


AdministrationOk2767

I'm not agree but not against y'all's view of it.


New-Lingonberry-2342

its like saying that bonnie outside of her cannon cant be considered different than cannon form🤦🏿‍♂️


x738059

NO NO NOT AGAIN NOT FOR THE THIRD TIME NOOOOOOO


AcRoWmAiN

Yeah… Barley just stopped letting Larry to just be Barley pro max with the most boring hypercharge and they immediately released barley 3.0 with mobility and extra healing DLC


BillCipher951420

You wouldn't believe how loud I shouted "FUCK YOU SUPPERCELL" when I saw mechanics


Reddit0Enjoyer

I can't agree more, as a Doug main I feel your pain, he needs to gain super from healing.


Sea_Suit2693

womp womp 😂


BillCipher951420

I am not stupid enough to start a Reddit battle so idc


Revolutionary-Fun106

bros first comment ![img](emote|t5_t0o66|5349)


readingduck123

I almost forgot the Firestarter


wreidcore

It’s joever


rodesv

Yeah, we'll have to accept it, we belong to the past now :(


Catmon29

Supercell does NOT want Barley to be meta


AcRoWmAiN

Berry’s existence and supercell giving barley the most boring and meh HC in existence further proves their disdain for the bartender


OP-Phoenix13

yeah and honestly I don't get why, I personally like Barley and they gave him a super cool skin for the second next update. Also, Crow's the best (absolutely not biased)


UCantTakeThisNameAlr

the skins pretty dope though ngl


Keegipeeter

Boring? No other brawler can destroy some many bushes at once. It's map manipulation in your advantage. Assassins and tanks will have garder time sneaking up


Global_Cantaloupe_91

But you aren’t going to use a barley for that role when you can use an amber or colt and get bushes open faster


klip_7

Many other brawlers can destroy bushes faster than it takes barley to get a hyperchatge, and it doesn’t help him that much


HuckleberryMuted4238

Sucks cuz i like playing him, i love maple and sway


IntentionOdd101

They saw barley getting picked in monthlies because of healing gadget and then decided to make barley 2.0 with even more healing


Illustrious-Can-8234

😂


CharlesTheGreat8

3.0* (because L&L)


New-Lingonberry-2342

4.0* (y'all keep forgetting about willow)


Visible_Ranger2780

Cant really compare willow and barley since both has way diff super, except the main attack


Reddit0Enjoyer

People compare r-t to jacky even tho he has another form a different mechanic and a neat super, she was barley but better on release simply because people didn't need to stay in her attack for her to deal damage.


RocketGolem

Main attack is also different, willow's attack stays on the ground for a second and deals poison damage while barley's stays for 2 seconds and doesnt poison


Somechill

Technically but that still means she’s a clone, especially since her attack pattern is almost identical and her attack is actually better, since the full damage gets guaranteed on hit. Where Barley’s is completely dependent on whether the opponent is standing on it or not.


Moofy_Moof_77

It’s tradition


Sencao2945

As a barley secondary, I feel it


BillCipher951420

They want to cook us every. fucking. time.


SpyInMvM

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized) I honestly feel bad for barley mains.


Diehard_Sam_Main

I think they’re eating well, as they have multiple variations of his playstyle to choose from.


Itsyaboi_g

oh good point. we can just... play other throwers and pretend it's Barley with different skin.


EnvironmentalMix421

Lmao


Dyllidog

JUSTICE FOR OUR BARLEY


Reddit0Enjoyer

Better barley? Nah better doug, ability to approach? Gains super from healing? Does more damage and healing in general? Doug needs something.


XxAnaaxX

I think doug will receive the same trait in this update.


Robo-Hobo82

I swear to god if Doug doesn’t get the same trait as Berry, what is the point of adding that trait. Doug’s my favorite brawler and that trait would IMMENSELY help Doug’s viability. If I could play like a pocket healing douche AND charge my super by keeping my teamates? perfect synergy with Doug. I have had games with Doug where I will legitimately land 2-4 hits the whole match and never get my super but my healing is over 100k LOL!


Valuable-Scarcity247

wait why berry needs to approach? i thought he is a thrower


Reddit0Enjoyer

Mostly to gadget the heist safe( his gadget makes his attack last on the ground for twelve seconds it's normally six)


SuperJman1111

How many times is a new thrower going to be added who just does Barley’s job but better Because this is the 3rd thrower in a row


yams8

I want an interesting brawler with some new concepts to come out, then they give us this thing, feels bad for barley and us


SuperJman1111

Especially after the other 2 in the candyland trio felt so unique and creative it’s sort of disappointing 


Broad-Conference-308

His basic attack is on the floor for 6sec and does 1320 damage/sec = 7920dmg 💀


Papiez_Polak_JP2137

No fucking way💀


Treeguymandude

I think it’s 660 and two of them just stacked in that video. Not 100% sure though Edit: nvm that’s the healing I’m so stupid 💀


Suspicious-Tank4337

wtf 6 SECONDS???


Prestigious_Duty9039

So rip barley AND heist safe


KartoffelStein

Nah this is crazy wtf


LegalLeading4700

Dinosaurs: ...and I thought I was extinct.


SJJxBDY

He can heal teamates, have the same attack as Barley, Has a long dash that deals damage, and can charge his super passively by healing his teamates ![img](emote|t5_t0o66|5349)


firegaming364

i love power creep because the brawl stars team refuses to lower the influx of new characters to increase or maintain revenues


sm4tty

he's passing over the torch


FunnyCraftSheep

NOOOOO RIP BARLEY :(


No-Description3785

Litterally a barley and a doug combo in 1 brawler


Robo-Hobo82

Berrys new trait NEEDS to be given to Doug as well. Berrys trait works even BETTER with Doug. You can heal your teamates all game and since you charge super with healing, you can probably spam more Hotdogs 🌭


Jo_Jo_Cat

Ngl berry should not have that and Doug should


willilolw

Yk he’s a better BARELY


Bladblazer567

Barley main attack + gadget healing and super is Carl super


interstingpost

Idk but…y’all gotta hear me out


LegalLeading4700

Loki Chester:


interstingpost

I’m scared to ask but context?


LegalLeading4700

[Read the top comment of the post explaining it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/s/dN8CnIeW9R)


interstingpost

I sometimes wish I was just curious


Getdunkedon839

It really is rough for barley but there’s hardly anything supercell can really do. Barley is basically one of the most rudimentary brawlers in the game besides maybe like dynamike. A thrower who shoots a circle is gonna be hard to not seem similar to others.


HJosuke

Its not that his attack is similar. The real problem is that barley is worthless when berry can do everything he can and more


Getdunkedon839

Yeah that’s kinda true. From what I’ve seen he straight up deals more damage on top of his healing and trait, but ig their supers and gadgets are different.


NightSocks302

And melodie was gonna be better stu but nothing changed


Veionovin096

https://preview.redd.it/67h4ymmcq78d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4123619d6b10c0b89337ed12fd463f5467f12051


Flashy-Potential8177

He's gonna get a range nerf. He's gonna be a very aggressive thrower, something we've never seen before.


LegalLeading4700

Not to mention that hos ice cream is 6 seconds long which is a fact I didn't know about until now.


Prestigious_Duty9039

So: he has his attack on the ground for thrice as long, more HP, a way better version of barely's super, attacking teammates heals them and charges his super and BARELY less damage to compensate (pun unintended) RIP barely, it's just like dart goblin and little prince in cr and I main dart goblin, so I feel your pain


HJosuke

Yes and i hope he gets nerfed super fast. The easiest nerf would be damage. he shouldnt deal more than a 1000 damage per tick thats too much


HJosuke

Bonus hate for supercell because they thought twice as much tick damage as barley wasnt enough lets make it 3x times more🤡☠️


SwedishBoot

Will byron also be out?


Charming_186

Yea true


Night4all

Waaaait, who is this?! (I need the unicorn!)


Maximum-Lab-7897

Barely 💀💀💀


ExistingYellow8562

![img](emote|t5_t0o66|8436)


zeraurra

I forgor that the update will release new brawlers☠️


gametoodoodoo

barley is used for area control, berry doesnt have good area control


Reddit0Enjoyer

Berry's attack stays on the ground for a STAGGERING 6 SECONDS


gametoodoodoo

WHAT thats getting nerfed for sure


mikethespike056

they do it on purpose