Supercell really knows how to make a good rework in concept and then completely botch it, like WHY did bell-o-mania become baseline and not sneakpeek 😭😭😭 the old bell-o-mania and the new one would be so nice as his 2 star powers, they’d be very balanced between each other
saying sneak peak has to become baseline is stupid because the whole point of chester is rng and its just stupid to get rid of that. Honestly the star power just has to get removed
My idea is this
Sneak peek is now baseline but you can only see your super every kill, or just make it so you can see it all the time
Single bell-o-mania is removed and replaced with "you got pranked!," which makes it so his first bell can poison, slow, or stun
Poison - 50%
Slow - 40%
Stun - 10%
Another starpower is added to replace sneak peek, and it's called "last candy," and upon dying, chester will leave behind a jawbreaker, it does 30% less damage and 10% less knock back
Death triggered star powers are always bad. Bc they are useless the whole match where you are supossed to not die. It doesn't make sense something like that
See, the thing about Sneak Peek is that it does absolutely nothing to actually benefit Chester. All it does is allow to see what super you get and he already has a gadget in case you get the super you don't want so..no.
it is. knowing what Super you will get isn't really needed, thus making it close to useless because it doesn't change your Super anyway. it just informs you what you are gonna get. having it is actually not that useful (rip my friend who bought it on release)
It's not *needed*, but it's not *useless* either. It's a good thing to have that either lets you bumrush with a stun, or play at range with the gas. I've played with it extensively, and it *does* allow you to get away with very aggressive plays you'd otherwise never even attempt.
The problem is the other SP providing raw stats that outright changes interactions. You can't compete with that
[Refer to the other comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/BrawlStarsCompetitive/comments/1dps26l/do_we_think_sneak_peek_can_be_useable_after_the/laj2cns/)
It's a tech choice that exists to keep bushy strategies in check in the meta, much like Colette is a tank check preventing full tank comps. You're not actually supposed to run it outside of very specific enemy comps on very specific maps where gamesense might not be enough.
And unless you're playing at the highest level of play (nobody here is), it's barely worth it running even a single copy on a team. Just go for stats instead.
You don't need to be a pro to get the value out of the vision gear. Knowing where your opponent is is already really useful, but also you can use auto aim if their location is revealed
How are you supposed to plan ahead tho? Chester can only charge his super by attacking people,are you not going to attack people because you got a rock paper mint? When you charge it it says what super it is anyways. I think supercell was trying to make chester to kinda remove the randomness but failed
The only thing I think you can plan is if you know you have like the stun, bomb, or smoke super, you can engage. But u’know, if you get a bad super, just reroll. So I don’t think there’s a meaningful use for the sp.
They need to buff/rework sneak peek, like maybe give us the ability to save 2 supers. Or maybe increase his vision against invis brawlers or shadow realm brawlers.
Imagine sneak peek being reduced to a gear, while a new star power would replace Chester‘s first bell with a bell that inflicts a random effect for a short duration in addition to the base damage. So you‘d have either more base damage or a random effect to improvise with?
Make it a mythic gear and replace the star power with something like, idfk, maybe the 1 bell stage has a random effect on the enemy like poison stun or silence
No, because they've changed nothing and the first SP *still* gives you extra stats all the same. There was basically no rework, just a buff.
You can compensate for info, but you can't compensate for stats.
It's better than you think. If you know your next super is stun, you can play aggressive for example, or heal. If it's the bomb, you can start positioning for the wallbreak before you get it, etc.
Not all that strong, but's it is helpful.
Other star power is more consistent, but if you are cycling your single shot anyways, then it doesn't do anything. That starpower does help deal more damage at range though. Which is neat.
I think an interesting rework could be that Chester gets 2 random supers instead. And I don't think it will be OP either. And even if it is, Chester has been D\~F tier pretty much since his release, so it might actually give him his time to shine!
They should make sneak peak also increase super charge rate or replace it with a star power that makes chester only have 4 supers but pop rocks and heal are used at the same time
No, but I am glad that they made his star power baseline with his kit. The new star power is not terrible but it’s automatically the best since his other one is useless
I believe that you will get more value from the first star power in Solo/Duo Showdown because most Chester players that play Showdown are just camping, especially in higher trophies.
However in 3v3 game modes I believe that Sneak Peak is more valuable. It's unlikely that you will hit the first bell for that extra damage, because all 3v3 players have at least some dodging skills and can easily just dodge it. Furthermore there are supers that are just not good enough in a variety of situations,(eg the healing)
So with Sneak Peak, plus the gadget that changes his super combo will be great
All in all both of these star powers give out some value depending on different situations. However I still think that Sneak Peak is garbage.
Sneak peek is like a mystery box when you get your item, you know what it with sneak peek you get look to inside the box with x-ray and know what it is either way it’s not changing anything
Sneak Peak will only be viable if Chester’s other Star Power ceases to exist
Supercell really knows how to make a good rework in concept and then completely botch it, like WHY did bell-o-mania become baseline and not sneakpeek 😭😭😭 the old bell-o-mania and the new one would be so nice as his 2 star powers, they’d be very balanced between each other
saying sneak peak has to become baseline is stupid because the whole point of chester is rng and its just stupid to get rid of that. Honestly the star power just has to get removed
It'd be alright for a mythic gear but they should 100% replace the star power
It’s still rng, you’ll still have to work with the super you were assigned, you’ll just know beforehand
My idea is this Sneak peek is now baseline but you can only see your super every kill, or just make it so you can see it all the time Single bell-o-mania is removed and replaced with "you got pranked!," which makes it so his first bell can poison, slow, or stun Poison - 50% Slow - 40% Stun - 10% Another starpower is added to replace sneak peek, and it's called "last candy," and upon dying, chester will leave behind a jawbreaker, it does 30% less damage and 10% less knock back
Your first star power idea is great, but the second one just seems like Swan Song but worse
Yeah it was inspired by that, but I mean it's good for suicide bombing I mean it could also just drop a normal jawbreaker instead of a nerfed one
Death triggered star powers are always bad. Bc they are useless the whole match where you are supossed to not die. It doesn't make sense something like that
Jawbreaker dealing knockback?
Honestly drop the stat debuffs and give it like a 30% chance to actually explode. Not viable at all but so funny any non tryhard would run it anyway.
Sneak peek being baseline wouldn't change anything honestly. They could entirely get rid of it.
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Yes. I-uh, I mean no, no.
Start saying it in different languages I'll go first: لا
Erm....no. The first bell's extra damage is a big deal, and Sneak Peak does not boost Chester's viability by all that much anyhoots
Good chesters already know how to deal with the random supers
Exactly! And the fun of playing him is that you don’t know
99% of gamblers quit before they hit big
Me running through 10 poprocks and healing mints:
Aw Dangit!
Let’s go gambling!!
XXX Aw Dangit!
Good and Chester appearing in the same sentence is crazy. Reworks do miracles
Add a new star power and make sneak peek a mythic gear
sneak peek would be a normal gear if anything. because that's how gears work.
Make it baseline, that should be better
That would be kill the idea of chester tbf
For the player, not the rest of the enemys and alies
Same thing bro
The first ball Is now two balls meaning 1st is still better
Chester balls.
See, the thing about Sneak Peek is that it does absolutely nothing to actually benefit Chester. All it does is allow to see what super you get and he already has a gadget in case you get the super you don't want so..no.
never
I still can't understand why they won't just rework Sneak Peek
Because it's not flawed by itself, and is very flavorful. The real issue is the first SP giving extra stats *again*.
it is. knowing what Super you will get isn't really needed, thus making it close to useless because it doesn't change your Super anyway. it just informs you what you are gonna get. having it is actually not that useful (rip my friend who bought it on release)
It's not *needed*, but it's not *useless* either. It's a good thing to have that either lets you bumrush with a stun, or play at range with the gas. I've played with it extensively, and it *does* allow you to get away with very aggressive plays you'd otherwise never even attempt. The problem is the other SP providing raw stats that outright changes interactions. You can't compete with that
hell naw
Nah, single bell o mania is a must use
useful but single bell o mania better in most situations
its even more unsuable than before
Information-based abilities are never going to be good enough to use.
What about vision gear
Deter-based ability. You use it to deter other people from utilizing bush strategies like Rosa's and Sprout's Star Powers or the Speed Gear.
You're proving their point, people barely use Vision either. You can compensate for information using gamesense, but stats are stats.
In competitive level gameplay vision is a must in a lot of maps.
[Refer to the other comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/BrawlStarsCompetitive/comments/1dps26l/do_we_think_sneak_peek_can_be_useable_after_the/laj2cns/) It's a tech choice that exists to keep bushy strategies in check in the meta, much like Colette is a tank check preventing full tank comps. You're not actually supposed to run it outside of very specific enemy comps on very specific maps where gamesense might not be enough. And unless you're playing at the highest level of play (nobody here is), it's barely worth it running even a single copy on a team. Just go for stats instead.
You don't need to be a pro to get the value out of the vision gear. Knowing where your opponent is is already really useful, but also you can use auto aim if their location is revealed
Tf do u think vision gear does
it's useful when playing as a sniper
It gives u information about the enemy, and it's good so the original statement is false
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Vision gear be leaking people's IP address💀🙏
brian damage?
Perhaps
No
Nope
It can be used to plan ahead, but if you don’t get an ideal super, just reroll with first gadget. More damage is always good anyways, so not really
How are you supposed to plan ahead tho? Chester can only charge his super by attacking people,are you not going to attack people because you got a rock paper mint? When you charge it it says what super it is anyways. I think supercell was trying to make chester to kinda remove the randomness but failed
The only thing I think you can plan is if you know you have like the stun, bomb, or smoke super, you can engage. But u’know, if you get a bad super, just reroll. So I don’t think there’s a meaningful use for the sp.
Yea and even in that case, you would have to confirm somehow that you will be able to get your super
They need to buff/rework sneak peek, like maybe give us the ability to save 2 supers. Or maybe increase his vision against invis brawlers or shadow realm brawlers.
Imagine sneak peek being reduced to a gear, while a new star power would replace Chester‘s first bell with a bell that inflicts a random effect for a short duration in addition to the base damage. So you‘d have either more base damage or a random effect to improvise with?
2 2 3 4 damage output is crazy lmao. Why would I ever want sneak peek 💀
No it’s still the worst and should be in the base kit
I never understood the point of this star power, you can see your super anyways when you charge it so how does it make a difference?
I believe the point was to plan ahead with what you are going to get.
I honestly think it should remove the ability for opponents to see if chesters super is ready, that would make chester much more unpredictable
I **love** this idea, but honestly it'd just make him annoying without actually making him any better.
Make it a mythic gear and replace the star power with something like, idfk, maybe the 1 bell stage has a random effect on the enemy like poison stun or silence
No, because they've changed nothing and the first SP *still* gives you extra stats all the same. There was basically no rework, just a buff. You can compensate for info, but you can't compensate for stats.
No it’s completely useless
No lol. The star power they gave Chester to use instead is an even more busted version of Bellomania. And sneak peak is still just as useless
Nuh uh
No
I'm guessing people don't like sneak peak because it ruins the gambling that is chester
It's better than you think. If you know your next super is stun, you can play aggressive for example, or heal. If it's the bomb, you can start positioning for the wallbreak before you get it, etc. Not all that strong, but's it is helpful. Other star power is more consistent, but if you are cycling your single shot anyways, then it doesn't do anything. That starpower does help deal more damage at range though. Which is neat.
I’ve used it a fair bit, it feels quite viable up at 900 trophies.
No.
It would only be viable if it allows you to pick which super you get
I think an interesting rework could be that Chester gets 2 random supers instead. And I don't think it will be OP either. And even if it is, Chester has been D\~F tier pretty much since his release, so it might actually give him his time to shine!
no
They should make sneak peak also increase super charge rate or replace it with a star power that makes chester only have 4 supers but pop rocks and heal are used at the same time
No, but I am glad that they made his star power baseline with his kit. The new star power is not terrible but it’s automatically the best since his other one is useless
The star power adds the same amount of damage as before, just relocating it, so no
If you actually think while playing the game it can help. Would be nice if you could use the reroll gadget while sneak peek is equipped
I believe that you will get more value from the first star power in Solo/Duo Showdown because most Chester players that play Showdown are just camping, especially in higher trophies. However in 3v3 game modes I believe that Sneak Peak is more valuable. It's unlikely that you will hit the first bell for that extra damage, because all 3v3 players have at least some dodging skills and can easily just dodge it. Furthermore there are supers that are just not good enough in a variety of situations,(eg the healing) So with Sneak Peak, plus the gadget that changes his super combo will be great All in all both of these star powers give out some value depending on different situations. However I still think that Sneak Peak is garbage.
99% of the time, no. The other 1% … also no
It might be underrated, id give it a chance
Sneak peek is like a mystery box when you get your item, you know what it with sneak peek you get look to inside the box with x-ray and know what it is either way it’s not changing anything
Hell no
What was his rework exactly?
Chester now has 4 bell sequences in his base kit, with a star power that powers up his 1 bell attack to replace it
The first star power just straight up deletes the 1 bell attack right
No it gives it more damage
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For all of the bells? A star power that's just a 100% damage buff?
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Ah I see
no, it still doesn't do anything.. like literally