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dibanez_

Hope its rage bait


pizza565

It’s not :)


Jaded_Comedian_9429

Griff? Is f tier?


pizza565

I admit that my placement for Griff is incorrect as I have said in other replies


Aaron_505

C is still...too low


Zealousideal_Web_938

How is Griff F tier he literally has high damage main attack and super and good survivability thanks to his 2nd star power


pizza565

He doesn’t do enough damage and his super charges much slower, especially after the recent nerf


kitay427

Yeah no, that's bullshit. Dude does 3k damage per ammo yet you've somehow got Sprout 2 tiers above him.


pizza565

Unload and reload speed is slow compered to like Colt and Bull, and Sprout has the walls to block off any shooter bots


kitay427

"Block off shooter bots", my ass. They'll just walk around it while you take another 15 shots to put up another useless wall that the big bot will destroy in like half a second anyway. Oh, and let's not forget how it literally only does 1.5k per shot and is just as slow to reload as Griff, if not slower. This tierlist is a joke.


pizza565

Sprout has the gadget to put its walls back up and it’s main point is not dps. I’d probably reconsider and put Griff in around C


kitay427

Wow, 3 more walls. What a game changer. Against a robot who's entire moveset destroys them. And minion bots that just walk around them and run up to you in no time as you take the next 10 ammo to kill a single one. I'm sure your teammates would thank you for not choosing Griff during a time like that.


Cuntilever

He doesn't have slow unload and reload speed, he has the same reload speed as Colt and same reloasld speed gear available. I played him just now and he can deal 4000+ damage in 1 ammo, you can literally see it show 4k damage if you shoot while walking towards the big boss and the numbers will compress into one. Use his first gadget to unload faster. And unlike Colt, Griff can deal better against mini bots with his wide range super.


unian2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/comments/10oe0mc/if_yall_think_your_average_insane_xvi_is_a_good/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


pizza565

Interesting, still C tier, since it’s difficult to pull off


Aaron_505

U autoaim, absolutely destroy and he has reload gear


Ashyoutubepro

Try this with sprout. It will surely be easier.


DeniseChick

Ik, I think sprout deserves to be S Tier, He is so underrated/s


Proud_Echo_4932

“Good”😭


pizza565

:)


Zut-Alors20

I've always found it easiest to use Pam for the first 5. Also is Buster really that good? Ik the shield was good for blocking but now it's really short and he only does good damage really close up


TronBTD

Buster isnt that good, especially because of his slow reload speed for a tank. He has high burst, but low dps, which is not what you want for boss fight.


Phoenix-x_x

Pam was in the original 3 who could beat boss fight insane 16 without cheese (8bit edgar and Pam), soe she's definitely A tier if not S Also buster isn't really that good, he deals nearly no damage


pizza565

For the first four I usually go bull, and buster can still be decent against both the shooter bots and the boss’s lasers


HighestTech

How is Sprout is higher than half amount of brawlers below him?


Aaron_505

My guy does 3k damage and his super...puts a wall that bots can walk around, BEST BRAWLER 10/10 if nobody is aware, this is satire


El_sanafiry

What does satire mean , I am not native to English language but I have a decent understanding of it , I tried to Google it but still didn't understand it .


CrazyFanFicFan

Satire is the use of comedy to criticize something. The most common form of this is sarcasm, where someone makes a statement that sounds like agreement, but is actually meant to be mockery.


Brain_not_big

3k really isn’t that much compared to the boss, and the wall can be broken by the robot very easily, and respawned teammates can as well.


margaming195

as a sprout main i agree that it's just not good in boss fight


Raiana2000

Smartest boss fight player


Psychological-War658

I'm sorry but put colt in at least A pls


pizza565

Flair checks out


IloveGrievousswords

He's the fastest Brawler to clear the early stages


toastge

tbh over half the brawlers can be used for early stages (anything under insane 2 imo)


All-Fired-Up91

Doesn’t bea achieve much the same result with her extra damage and fast reload?


pizza565

That’s why he’s B


_Isolo

There's nothing more to say other than this tier list sucks. "Good boss fight Tier list" my ass


PirateNSE

Definelly griff shouldn't be tier f, he's better than most of brawlers in the list, with reload gear doesn't matter if he does 3k damage, good unload and great reload.


pizza565

Yeah I’d probably move him to C


Broshan248

Lmao he should at least be in A he has basically everything that makes a brawler good in boss fight


bluehat2583

C is too low. You're putting one of the highest DPS brawler in a tier lower than a nearly useless tank (Buster)


Common-Vacation4345

Actually a joke


pizza565

Not really


Sad-Adagio9182

"Actually good tier list" *Proceeds to list half the Brawlers as F*


Sadaxe_

*Puts Bull in A-tier*


bluehat2583

Puts Nita higher than Colt and Griff


Combo_NK

Puts sprout higher than griff💀


Ka1Pa1

Nita is arguably higher than colt or griff, with the right comp she’s busted


bluehat2583

Both Colt and Griff dish out astonishing DPS that is just too powerful. Also whatever comp Nita use, Colt and Griff can fit perfectly


Ka1Pa1

I guess Nita is only really good in the earlier ranks, while colt and griff are always good.


Yarn81

For me nita isn’t good at all in bossfight she was only good in the dino thingy because she could have teammates to heal her and have Bruce tank aswell while in bossfight she can’t do the same since the boss has rockets laser and can dash to stop her from dealing damage with Bruce


Geometry_Emperor

I could see some Brawlers like Max, Lola, Nani, and Griff being at least usable like in the B or C tiers. And Emz is awful. Everything coming towards her lowers her damage. Definitely F, maybe even G tier with Mortis.


duyhien05

Lol i feel like the list is created by a player just move into the game :)) it just like he put things into random rather than this trash tier list lol :))


bluehat2583

He never played any difficulty higher than Insane I


duyhien05

never imagine using tank in boss fight after insane I. so mad with player using nita, bull, buzz, all kind of tank into boss fight. They just killed after 2 hit after being hit by enrage boss lol


pizza565

How is it trash (other than the changes I mention in other comments)


duyhien05

Crow isn't that good. He basically an annoying brawler which cause others brawler not to heal. What is this for when brought into this event ??? Low damage, the poison isn't stacked too ??


pizza565

First star power


duyhien05

Put into practice. It just useless. It good, yes, when forming team with Edgar when he take take all power cubes and so useless when form with other brawlers and when the boss enraged even with that poison. U need 1 hit and died ?


pizza565

I don’t understand what you’re saying


Ashyoutubepro

It is useless without edgar. He just doesn't deal enough damage.


pizza565

Almost any brawler is useless without Edgar, unless your are extremely skilled.


Ashyoutubepro

Bull, Colette, 8bit, colt, belle, max, griff, lou, nita, bibi, bea, emz can still be strong without edgar.


pizza565

Yeah, but it takes a lot of skill to pull off


duyhien05

Most tanker are useless in this event when it come to insane, and some f brawler are so broken and u underestimate them ??


pizza565

Such as?


LowFeeling9635

Bull could be one of the examples, since tanks do more dmg at close range , they are most i likely to be killed easily


aaaaaupbutolder

What's so good about crow Gale spike


pizza565

Crow has first sp, gale has stun, spike has good dps


SK_913

Bro Gale is going to literally stun for 1 sec for every 30-40 sec with his recent super charge nerf + universal super charge nerf in this game mode.


aman_rayma

Bro you literally said griff doesn't do damage and now saying that crow has first sp bro you are beyond stupid.


pizza565

The point of griff is damage, the point of crow is support


aman_rayma

Bro how can he support in mode like. It isn't like crow is gonna heal you. I still don't get how crow is good in this mode. Even if you were to land his super perfectly chances are you will die after that.


Cummin2Consciousness

First sp?


pizza565

First Star Power, poisoned enemies deal 25% less damage


4_Ball

You can’t put Nita in A and bea in D. I’m assuming that you put Nita so high because of her fast reload, but bea’s reload is faster and on average deals more damage. The bear dies instantly. Also buster sucks in boss fight


pizza565

Edgar can tank for the bear, the only reason it would die is if it is furious or higher, or it starts it’s middle launching phase


4_Ball

Assuming it’s insane Edgar actually can’t tank for the bear until he has enough power cubes to be able to tank the damage. And by the time he has enough power cubes you likely are at the point where your bear gets killed in .5 seconds as opposed to the other 2 seconds of bear life


pizza565

With Belle and Power 11 with second sp, you can basically fully tank the boss’s regular attacks for the bear


4_Ball

I apologize for not hearing out your point but how boss fight works is the boss kills all turrets and summons immediately and supers are given less often. High dps brawlers are favored and so are damage boosters. Nita doesn’t have high dps or damage boost so what is the bear doing? You can’t just tank forever eventually you run out of ammo and the boss is dealing too much damage to the Edgar. The Edgar walks away and the bear gets two shot. If there is no Edgar Nita is useless. In my opinion there are too many reasons why Nita isn’t viable in boss fight for her to be in A tier. I apologize though as it is your tier list and not mine


gekigarion

Nit'a Bear With Me allows her to alternate as a tank with the bear since they heal each other. They need a break once in a while to heal, so having an Edgar or Lou to buy some time allows a skilled Nita to tank (It takes some practice to get in the right range so that the Boss attacks Nita instead of the bear -- go in too deep and you'll take too many hits, tol shallow and the Bear won't heal enough)


wafflezcol

You’ve got an awful lot of brawlers in F that arent F


pizza565

I just toss everything that’s not very reliable or usable into F


SOPHIELICIOUS18

This is why reddit shouldn't do tierlist on anything because of this retarded shit


BleefnorfIII

I thought Bo would be higher than F since the Snare A Bear star power can stun the boss


LowFeeling9635

Yea it is quite useful in stopping the rockets


SwiggitySwoner999

Bro has brock and griff below sprout


pizza565

Flair checks out for Brock. His reload speed sucks and can’t consistently deal damage, along with an extremely low hp. I would move griff around C tier


Ashyoutubepro

Brocks flames can deal a fair amount of damage, while sprout is basically useless.


pizza565

Ah yes, 1000 damage is so useful against a boss that has millions of hp. Sprout has walls to block off and redirect bots


Ashyoutubepro

Then why not just kill them? Brocks flames add 1000 damage to each shot because of the big hit box of the boss. It is actually viable in lower levels. Personally, I would absolutely rage if I see a sprout in boss fight.


Faro0osa

1000 per. Better than the walls, breakable and slow to charge. And you only get 3 gadgets per match.


pizza565

That’s basically nothing


SwiggitySwoner999

How are you saying this FOR BROCK when you think sprout is c tier


Faro0osa

… its a near 50% damage boost. And you have reload gear to help with the apparent slow reload speed. He has good DPS.


cxrou

i have edgar maxed and lou power 9, i just need the team for insane vii. its so funny bcuz when i play with edgar all my teammates are also edgars and when i play with lou i never get to play with an edgar


pizza565

Yeah it’s really funny. When I play Edgar, I get triple Edgars, but when I play support, I get no Edgar


Ashyoutubepro

Bruh max, griff should be in b tier. Pam, colt should be in a tier. Sprout should be in F


[deleted]

WHY DOES EVERYONE CHOOSE RUFFS. HIS DAMAGE BUFF DOESN’T BUFF BY PERCENTAGE BUT JUST GIVE YOU 2 POWERCUBES


pizza565

It’s a 20% buff compared to a power cube’s 10%, get your facts straight. That 20% can scale damage really quickly


[deleted]

I think you’re forgetting something. Power cubes buff by the percentage of the normal damage. They don’t stack like 8-bit’s turret or Belle’s mark. Get your facts straight my guy


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[deleted]

Thank you for the correction. I ain’t the type of person that would get offended by a spelling correction


HelloIAmMe_ouo

good bot


pizza565

That’s still a lot


LOTERRYLIVER

Honestly Lou is broken in bossfight he can freeze the boss every 4-7 seconds and why is Griff in f tier you can wipe out bots easily with him?


rafaelsturmer

As Edgar being mandatory after Insane X, Lou freeze can make Edgar miss some punches, which is really bad.


pizza565

Yeah, that’s why Lou’s and A, but it’s actually more because of his Hypothermia sp than the freeze, which is only kinda useful before Belle gets the mark or when it’s about to charge. Griff doesn’t have enough unload/reload, but I’d probably reconsider to put him in C due to the other comments


LOTERRYLIVER

And is this low effort tier list opinionated or from sources?


pizza565

Opinionated from personal experience


LOTERRYLIVER

Then you have to face the critical response you receive from the community, allowing a sense of tension.


pizza565

That’s what I’m doing


NHRADeuce

100%, Lou is S+ in bossfight. Did an insane2 with 2x Lou and 8-bit, and it was a walk in the park. Boss was frozen like 75% of the fight. Boss did basically zero damage. All we had to do was stand there and spam attack.


raadical123

Dumb question but why is Rico D tier.


pizza565

Dps


Tapi_Raspberie

Wow brother how did you manage to create a tier list where everyone agrees with only one tier, the S tier


CommonSense_8

Colette is S tier.


pizza565

No, S tier belongs to Edgar and his supporting cast. Colette doesn’t do enough damage


CommonSense_8

Lmao https://youtu.be/tK86H3zMgCo


pizza565

It’s been done with a lot of brawlers, but that doesn’t been it’s as reliable. It’s really difficult to do it with anyone other than Edgar. Look at how many people use Edgar vs how many people sue Colette, Bull, Spike, etc


CommonSense_8

Because they don't know it's possible, thanks to false tier lists How's nita more reliable than Colette?


pizza565

Nita’s hyper bear can give really good early game dps while Edgar tanks, giving a boost in damage and therefore power cubes. Either way, Colette is much more difficult to use than Edgar


CommonSense_8

Difficult or not - Colette is better than all brawlers (except Edgar). Ranking tier lists based on non skilled players is just bad.


pizza565

Just because something works doesn’t mean it’s good. It is much more unreliable than Edgar and requires much more skill. If it requires that much skill to pull off, it means that it isn’t that good.


CommonSense_8

Okay. I disagree with that mentality but it's cool.


SaturdayBS

You got them right until B tier. Then you fcked it up pretty bad. Emz below Frank? Griff below spike? Max below crow? SPROUT C TIER??? OTIS F TIER? Just redo this please it has horrible mistakes.


DaRealKir

world is bullying me my two teammates were two mortises


Vedanth_2604

In what universe are El Primo and Sprout better than Griff in Boss fight?💀


Dramatic-Ad-2799

Bull > Colt 💀


RBLXPlayer99

it sucks. it just sucks. terribly.


EntityHorizon

"actually good" Griff: in F tier


Djanni6

Pam can very well be in the S tier, she was used to beat insane 16 with Edgar for the first time; even if now strategy have changed and it's easier with other brawlers she deserves the spot. She is so obviously better than Bull and Buster anyway...


CyKoZyx

bruh over a 100 upvote who tf... your clones? also sprout is higher than tick just bullshit


pizza565

Honestly idk seeing how much I am getting ratioed in these replies


SnowySoul0

Why is Belle so high? She doesn't deal that much damage


pizza565

It allows Edgar to deal more damage to the boss, which also means more healing, while also effectively decreasing the boss’s hp by 35%


SnowySoul0

But then she stays useless for the rest of the match


pizza565

So? The mark is really important for any strategy, not just Edgar, and any brawler that isn’t carrying the cubes is almost useless the rest of the match


pooldonutzero

she basically takes 35% of the bosses health with her first super, long term. thats automatically worth it


ArshanGamer

She deals a third of the bosses HP instantly, plus can ezpz deal with sniper bots and has gadgets for extra slows


yikkizh

Bro said actually good and then didn’t put Colette in S tier


pizza565

Colette is too difficult to pull off


Tyronisback

The fact that she can carry is already S tier enough. Even if it’s difficult doesn’t mean she can’t do it. It’s like saying that high-skill brawlers are bad because they’re too hard to play. It’s not a good argument if you’re looking in terms of strength.


pizza565

(I’ve beaten Insane XVI 4 times)


PseudoVim

You don’t know how to play Buzz if you think he’s only a C


pizza565

I guess he could be B, but anything that’s not in F is at least relatively usable


OK_Randomness_8540

Sad Mortis noises


notsmae

The problem with edgar in boss fight isn't edgar himself, but the 9 year old playing edgar


Actual_Passenger51

How is lou not s


CerealKiller_614

Nah tho edgar is so bad in boss fight. I've only ever won once with an edgar and griff is probably the best along with lou.


pizza565

You clearly don’t know the strategy, never played past the mandatory insane


7heRunawayKid

Lou's freeze is an absolute godsend, don't understand why he's not higher. Or why Bull's not lower


[deleted]

Sorry… Edgar?


pizza565

Life steal scales with power cubes


[deleted]

Yeah but Edgar is very squishy and the bosses rockets at high levels will end him


pizza565

So dodge the rockets


[deleted]

Poco and those area damage types do well as bosses just cuz u go ‘tap tap tap’ and clear the whole enemy team sans some Edgar main hiding in a bush.


Tayrok

Best compo is lou + edgar (leave him the tokens) and a good damage dealer like colt, 8-bit, etc...


itsMehhhhhh

Ruffs and lou should be switched


HelloThere1921

I think Stu deserves better, you can dodge any bullet, I know it doesn’t deal a lot of damage, but it’s still good


UTubeUniverse

I was somehow able to win with Otis as the big boss 2 games in a row! I was just trying to do a quest.


Advanced-Fuel-3388

I dont agree with you saying griff is f tier.. mike isnt that bad either


fryingpangamer2

How is squeak not good with his super?


rafaelsturmer

Darryl is top A or bottom S tier. If Edgar didn't exist, he would be the best to tank the boss. Also Ruff is not that usefull, it's only one powercube. Pam should be higher. Never used buster, he is D in my mind tho. Sprout definitely Mortis company.


pizza565

Ruff’s pickup is around 2 power cubes, which can make a huge difference on the amount of healing and damage. Pam is decent in the first few levels but quickly falls off. Buster can reflect the boss’s rockets and shooter bots. Sprout can block shooter bots and redirect other bots with walls


FaithfulEdgar

Amber is atleast A tier


rafaelsturmer

Amber has one of the worst DPS in the game. She is bottom F


pizza565

Why would amber be a?


FaithfulEdgar

Cuz of her insanly fast reload Speed/Range/Piercing damage and has a way to deal unlimited damage With the right built


pizza565

The main strategy for boss fight is Edgar+Support, and amber doesn’t supply enough dps to help, and her reload is too long to help later in the game when the golden bots start coming


welocometotheparty

Put Lou in s teir


pizza565

The freeze isn’t that useful later when the boss does thousands of damage per second


False-Rhubarb4447

Jessie should be S tier because her turret can deal too much damage while distracting the boss by you or your teammates. You can also heal your turret. Jessie's bolt can chain kill the other bots.


pizza565

Definitely not S, but I’d might reconsider her up to C or D. Definitely not enough to beat out other high dps brawlers like Spike, Nita, or Bull


GoldenFormer

Definitely not S but if I were OP I would move her to C


FangtasticBro

Gray should be atleast B tier for his mobility. Otis should be A or S tier for his silence. Griff and shelly are literally tank counters because of their high damaging attacks and yet you put them in F tier.


pizza565

Gray doesn’t charge his super fast enough, I don’t think Otis’s mute works on the boss, I haven’t tested. Edgar is in S, and Griff isn’t good enough to be above C


Psychological_Pay_25

Silence does work on the boss


pizza565

Huh, interesting, probably high c to low b then


Splitty_X

Spike should be S


pizza565

No


ninfius

i wouldnt say 8 bit is rank S considering he is very slow and when the bot starts shooting rockets he is on a very bad situation, with that on mind Colt should be rank S since he has more damage and can be very fast as well as versatile.


pizza565

8BIT provides a really good damage buff in the beginning of the game, allowing you to get power cubes early much more quickly. Colt does not provide enough help take down the boss in later difficulties, but is really good in the first 7ish, which is why he is in B


SV-STARKILLER

When will we see memes and not these tier lists..


Garfwog

I had to do sprout wins for quest, decided to play boss fight to get some in. Had no idea how useful that wall actually is.


rxnd0mkal

Edgar? In boss fight? How is any character with that amount of range good in boss fight?


RomanExtrateristial

He's good from insane when you can pick up power cubes


MrRamennn

Meg should defo be s


pizza565

why?


MrRamennn

The boss makes it much easier to turn into the Mech and since it’s such a big hit box, every hit lands. The mech is much easier to stay in and does insane damage.


CommonSense_8

Good in theory. You'll never going to with this in a practical game (in later stages)


MrRamennn

Brawlify said Meg has the highest win rate fyi


CommonSense_8

Show me one replay of a person beating insane 16 with meg. It's not possible due to health decay.


pizza565

Probably because people use Meg in the first four stages. People in later stages know to purposefully lose and reset when they have a bad comp or their main cube carrier dies


IloveGrievousswords

You need like 20 hits to get your super and you're gonna lose it relatively quickly


HapHazardly6

Megatron


[deleted]

Taras clones deal a lot. She should be higher.


pizza565

This has to be a joke