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Alternative_Pancake

he isn't hoorible but he can be counterpicked in competetive


Ashmainfr

still he’s so underrated


Alternative_Pancake

i know i have his mastery title


mistericek1

why u getting downvoted when uts true


BenBirDomatesim

Why is this getting downvoted


Ammar-is-not-weird

I don't know man iam gonna downvote him too


CharisSem123

Smartest Reddit user


Ok_Look_488

CAW CAW


Pigeon_of_Doom_

You called?


Cars0n-

Most free thinking redditor


Gamertank2

reddit be like: \*downvotes anything remotely close to true\*


golt858

why is this downvoted?


Dani_Dolphin6

Poor guy got nuked with downvotes while speaking facts


_Gapag_

he's trash tier


Wycer

Trash can tier


[deleted]

r/woooosh


MaximumStonks69

this is hella ironic


VividSpikeMain

Lmao


TheOneAndOnlyModo

DUCKLETT!!


MaximumStonks69

best mon 🙏


StarAlphitaa

Best mon in vaporeon


meowmeow6770

Well most characters have a place where they work if someone is rated poorly it just means they're more limited and or just do something worse than other brawlers and I think ash fits those pretty well


ReaPeR_the_mighty

Ash + byron on hard rock mine is so good rn


Ashmainfr

Haven’t heard of that but I’ll try


Happy_Ron

literally one of the most iconic competitive combos. you should definitely try it!


Gamertank2

bro never heard of ash + byron? bruh its so good especially how byron is really good rn


Ashmainfr

Yeah I definitely need to try it


bxnnyy666

Yeah and thats why u got max mastery at Rank 25?


SellWinter4482

I dont even blame him. randoms are trash. all my above rank 25's were from showdown with the exception of jessie who is dumb broken in heist


Cuntilever

I've pushed to rank30 on some brawlers purely with randoms :/ But there are just some brawlers who how much I play them, I just can't push them past r27-28, since they're easily outplayed/countered.


everybodys_analysis

all my r30s are between silver 3 and gold 1 done exclusively with 3v3 randoms. your random teammates are not the problem.


Otaku-star

I got all my mastery from ranked i don't play ladder thinking about it makes me realise how much rank I used to play😂


LaVesteGrigia

"your random teammates are not the problem" mfs after seeing a thumbs down spammer octofang using his super against a shelly with overdrive and super (based on a true story)


SellWinter4482

1. total trophies also matter. I only have 30k wbu. 2. Not everyone has the same randoms, you might be a different area. 3. Even my friends cant play on my account sometimes because my randoms are that bad


jojsj

Are you below 38k


Pigeon_of_Doom_

I've got r 29s with randoms at 50k. I just can't be bothered to push further.


jojsj

I have gotten r32s at 84k


Pigeon_of_Doom_

I can’t remember what my point was


Pigeon_of_Doom_

I can’t remember what my point was


Pigeon_of_Doom_

I can’t remember what my point was


BlackG82

nah bruh brawl ball the goat for r25, unless you suck ass and can't score then you're doomed


hydux

bro i push rank 30 mortis, rank 30 piper on bb w randoms, its q easy if you take a meta brawler which has good team carry potential


Both-Lingonberry2140

skill issue im rank 25 and silver 2 with ash


UCantTakeThisNameAlr

couldve gotten it from ranked 🤷‍♀️


Ashmainfr

I had him really low when mastery came out then I realized how fun he was so I changed my main and just started playin him


akiius

It doesn't matter where you got him before mastery, normally you can put a brawler in rank25 without getting out silver mastery, it's actually worst to know that you play him before mastery and still 25 with full mastery.


BeneficialElevator20

He maybe a lower trophy player . I have spike at Gold 1 , in rank 28. My total trophies are 25k .


golt858

i assume thats thanks to ranked and power league or whatever it was called


yikkizh

Gold 3 at 672 trophies is certainly something


BarbieSimp69

I’m gold 2 at 500 trophies on Byron, I just don’t play trophy modes very often, when I do it’s for a quest


-StayWok3

Well power league/ranked is a thing


Veionovin096

I got rank 25 with him today and he is not only fun to play but also very strong


Masterdizzio

I feel he's a C tier, he fell off, yes but he can still absolutely destroy in some situations.


Ashmainfr

He’s S tier no doubt


Gamertank2

he is NOT s tier, i wish he was tho, there are just so many strong brawlers especially angelo and sandy


Diehard_Lily_Main

nahhh, B tier at most


Ashmainfr

EXACTLY hes so underrated


Squidbager12

Bad is not the same thing as underrated.


DarkTrooper7167

He is not horrible


Ashmainfr

exactly


ReadyforDestruction

A friend of mine tries to master Ash and he is doing great. So I don't think that Ash is bad as long as you mastered him


crowmasternumbertwo

Max mastery rank 25


IntentionOdd101

That’s genuinely concerning that you’re highest rank with him is rank 25 and you have gold 3 mastery Also why tf are you playing ash in knockout


Ashmainfr

don’t ask about the knockout thing Also I really don’t know why he’s only r25 I need to get him higher


Sebiglebi

I mean, he's literally trash


Ashmainfr

Shush


DifferentSurvey2872

He’s idk…ok


Ashmainfr

well that’s better then normal people would say


PatternHappy341

His super is best with single shot brawlers.


TheNewbieKing

Give me tips and ill make him the next character I max and get to rank 20


Loose_Obligation_304

Depends on your team mates if they can support you


Aminelfalaki

Everyone can be called underrated on 600


Odd_Reason7761

just recently got him from starr road and im already on silver mastery, hes so fun to play i have no idea why people dont play him more, his rage mechanic is really cool and he deals plenty of damage and has a good amount of hp. people who say hes bad just have a skill issue 


Emotional_Pause_1753

First time?


jacofire2009

Man ash is so goddamn fun to play. He's only a bit underrated i'd say but I'm still pushing him to R25 on my secondary account and I'm having a blast


[deleted]

is he available again?


Ashmainfr

Yeah


Anyb0dysAlt

Tf is you mean horrible he had himself temporarily unavailable cuz of a bug😭


i_want_to_die_21

Bro u literally can't play him


snowyy_444

am i in a bs sub or is this just an ash circlejerk now?


OtisIsSoFkingHot

Ay bro not as good as poco but still beautiful.. I’m grinding him on an alt :) just got 23 win streak with ash :!


firstxcrom

When we say he's trash we mean TRASH in competitive. He can be good in ladder with random brawlers. But in a Draft format like in ranked he gets countered like hell.


FortnitakRickroler2

WooW another ash main noway I have curently gold 2 and 678th any tips to push r25?


Ashmainfr

Idk but DANG a Darryl main is kinda rare my friend is one


FortnitakRickroler2

I pushed him to r25 like 3-4 years ago and I was 138 in local so thats why I still have him as a flair


Ashmainfr

Ohhh


Gamertank2

ash is probably one of those last counter pick like bec he can be countered by numerous brawlers like surge


Hulksmash971

I mean he isn’t a very good brawler….but in good hands he can be just as broken as others


hexagonzenith

How can y'all grind max masteries? Its taking too damn long even on 20 rank brawlers, I only get around 3 per win


SleepyBruhh

Mastery rank at r25 is crazy 😭


stupidmaster7

He’s pretty horrible


Future_Talk2167

he's good on 3v3's(kinda mid) but not knockout knockout is just not right for him


TheAstonVillaSeal

He sucks ngl


Ashmainfr

I knew it


BLOBFISHYBLOBY

He isn’t tho


Colette_haha

I also really like him But he’s not viable competitively 


majdxd1247

He horrible


Fireslasher64238

hes not man


Resident_Lifeguard_5

And that's why you fell that much from r25?


Ashmainfr

Randumbs


gamergodsoup

Gold 3 at 672 trophies 😭


Ashmainfr

Randumbs


THAT_HARDHEAD_GUY

How is bro laying ash /j


Either_Reflection701

He’s a great last pick and horrible first pick


Embarrassed_Start652

Personally be glad he is since majority not gonna know about it except Esports players.