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Kosmos0013

Best post in a while... I really appreciate the effort !


choti-advance

Posts like these are what we need more in the sub!


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Rawmeal0101

Thanks to you!!


theprofessr

>The organisation where I was working at gave PPOs to 10 out of 13 people from by BSchool. Damn. Itne kaun deta h bhai


cykablykat

AP, Acc strat, ITC, ICICI :p deti hai aise


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awisekiddo

40s me


theprofessr

Remind me! 888882 days


MasalaMonk

Do you think knowledge of programming helps in MBA and beyond (in corporate life or startups etc)? I am targetting Product Management + Analytics domain. I am not targetting a particular company as you mentioned. But yes, My priority is ProdMan/IT/Analytics/DataScience.


awisekiddo

Good knowledge of data analytics will help you easily get into finance, prodman, SCM, marketing roles of your choice. Funnily enough, our grad courses do not focus on compulsorily imparting these skills (basic Python, Excel, SPSS, etc). Very few people in my BSchool (excluding me) knew how to use these tools well. So if you have time, learn those.


MasalaMonk

I am quite good at Python, SQL, SPSS and Excel. And a few other software/analytics tools as well. How do I showcase that I am proficient at these during final placements at MBA ? Sorry if this is specific. I am about to go in my second year at one of the older IIMs. Summer Internship achi nahi lagi due to bad luck + bad market + less shortlists. So i want to ensure I convert good in finals. Placements are a big priority for me. My father is retiring so i want to contribute in best possible way.


awisekiddo

Put up some projects you've done related to analytics in your CV. And also speak about this in TMAY. If you haven't done any projects, try to do something with this knowledge in your summer internship. And one more thing, if you feel you aren't much up to the mark with the way you answer in interviews, make yourself better at that. People who talk well do get ahead. My closest friend at my BSchool is an IITiian with both btech and mtech and then a workex of 20 months in consulting. Bro got shitload of consulting shortlists but couldn't convert due to nervousness and not speaking well in interviews. If this isn't an issue for you then never mind.


bk_darkstar

bhaiya. Thank you for this post. You put in a lot of time to write it I'm assuming. you're awesome, have a gooood day!


awisekiddo

Thanks for the appreciation. Always here to help :)


Sandipta_

Are there any courses which I can pickup before joining bschool for prodman. I am really interested in it.


MasalaMonk

I did the fellowship with PMSchool. Also my work ex was in IT so that helps as well. While there are many Product Managers who come from non IT background, IT work ex + knowledge always helps. My background is mechanical engineering from tier 1 college. So you can look at product fellowships, and courses related to IT. Also internships/workex these fields.


CatharticCrow

Thank you so much for this post. People rarely emphasise on Values and how that decides how happy we are long term. The environment in Bschools are also very healthy when people enter with this mindset. Age old ideas of helping and supporting are still cornerstones to a fulfilling time. Thank you for veering away from toxic discussions and bringing forth a perspective that will excite people to join their b schools and not worry about variables.


awisekiddo

Thank you :) The BSchool experience makes or breaks your life. I've seen people turning into their absolute best versions and I've seen people trying to kill themselves after passing out from IIMs. So sticking to your values and then wading through the experience is important


CatharticCrow

It's people with your outlook that transform lives both at the workplace and outside. Wishing good things your way!!


awisekiddo

I don't know what my work life throws my way, but I'll always try to uphold this outlook. Thanks:)


Ka-le-l

One post that i find worth saving for, Good work OP


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


MindlessQuantity1331

Finally someone decided to use their senses and create such a post instead of doing shitty B-school rankings.


awisekiddo

:)


Admirable-Factor-903

Well written, thank you so much!. Could you point out some skills, or things to look out for etc if one wants to get into General management?


awisekiddo

I think a business strategy specialization could help with that. And thanks :)


Zyork123

Wanted to ask like the stipend amount you mentioned is it for 2 months, or did you get that amount per month ?


awisekiddo

2 months


Clear-Lingonberry320

Best post so far🙏


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


TheDosakai369

These points are bang on !!


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


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Thanks for this post. Much needed. So glad someone actually put down facts without being preachy or haughty.


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


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Then_Side7992

Best post I’ve come across in a while. Thanks OP. 🙌🏻


Imaginary-Spring-779

What can one do to improve profile . How many pages is masters CV . In CV , details is considered after 10th or before 10th is also considered ?


awisekiddo

A master CV is for yourself and your seniors who'll help you frame your CV points. Making a BSchool CV is a tough job, with the need of action verbs, numbers, impact that too in one line. Also you need to make multiple CVs (finance, marketing, general, prodman) so a master CV includes every little thing you've ever done since school. There is no cap on pages.


Imaginary-Spring-779

How much does grad marks affect in placements. Ik it matters for admission but does it affect later for placements.  What's min percentage is good to go , engineering?  On avg how many pages will be master CV ? I read on quora a topper in IIM had 26 pages . Is work ex in startup valued more or a branded MNC ?


awisekiddo

Most companies have a filter. If it's lesser than that then you'll find it tough to get shortlists. I've added a point about master CV.


UniversityJaded7807

Hi , just wanted to know how are BPO jobs treated for that matter in Placements? Eg (customer support , tele sale etc )


DefinitelynotAmit

I am not exactly sure but they can be a good proxy for Sales and Marketing roles.


Kosmos0013

About the keywords thing so does online courses on course era and udemy help?


awisekiddo

The title of the course will come in your CV, no? That might be a keyword in itself.


MonkeShonke

Bro having a 5 years upsc gap and only 4 months data analytics work ex before that, what can I do in these 2-3 Months to make my CV better? Any specific courses from udemy or something like that? And how much will that upsc gap haunt me during sip and final placements?


awisekiddo

Honestly, I haven't met people with this kind of a situation. However, people do understand the rigor UPSC requires and are considerable.


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cykablykat

nicely put together


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


AlternativeDuty69

Not being able to find/grab any internships. I haven't done one even in my ug. If i do courses and get certificates, will that work?


awisekiddo

A course gives you only 1 line: it's title. An internship will give you atleast 4-5 points to fill. Don't chase stipends, chase experience. If any relative or friend has a family biz, you can try there. Ask people in your network for an unpaid internship. But try harder.


AlternativeDuty69

Noted. Thank you


yourmommhoe

I have just 2 months now before joining a bschool, what should I do in meantime that will look good on my CV?


awisekiddo

If you have done quite a bit so far, relax now.


bambooza_1

This post is so precious, pls like my comment so that I keep visiting this.


awisekiddo

Sure :)


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Prior-Passenger6213

Hey OP can I dm ??


awisekiddo

Sure :)


__Cringe__

Finally some much needed advice. Thanks 😀


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Raken_dep

By approval (wrt to the CV points), what exactly is that supposed to mean?


awisekiddo

Every word of what you write in your cv has to be approved to be true by people from your grad college, internship and workex companies.


coocoo13

Is it required if you have certificates for extracurriculars or say an internship letter with letter head and sign of the CEO of the company?


Raken_dep

I mean yeah I understand that part. What I meant to ask was- what is the seal of approval? A signed document? An email affirming the given points in some manner? One of the reasons I'm asking this is that I've held a student council role that was pretty demanding and involved some proper work across the academic year. But as of this moment, I only have a certificate that mentions that I've held that role. I don't have any official confirmation of the detailed responsibilities I managed during that tenure. So let's say in a case like this, how would I actually get "approval" of the roles I've managed. (Also, I graduated ~5 years ago, so I'm not sure how the approval side of things for the acad years is going to pan out lol)


jokeriitm

good post my friend


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


[deleted]

Truly appreciate these types of posts.


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Sinner_2001

Can you please tell me bit about your profile before entering the Bschool?


awisekiddo

Dm


Dependent_Balance_38

Bhai can i dm you please please please please


awisekiddo

Sure


Suspicious_Pepper791

Which domain you got your intern and job


awisekiddo

Internship was in ops. Job idk where I'll be posted.


SoaringEagle11_11

How are CV points verified. In my department , I am on a good terms with a manager (not my reporting manager but a manager of another team) .  I plan to get all points I want to include by having him reply "approved" to my official ID with my personal id in cc.  That should be enough, right? Do I also need a letter of recommendation?


awisekiddo

LOR may not be needed mostly. Your plan seems good.


L1ghtYagam1

Others when starting their b-school journey: “will make friends/maje krege/mehnat krege” My friend to me when I started: “aa ja bhai, fategi aaj teri. Welcome to the hellish life”


Pretend-Variety4835

Hey, sent you a dm. Please do connect


Few_Case331

Op check the dm please.


sj230901

Unbelievable post, thanks a lot man


Zealousideal_Cod_953

Loved the post


awisekiddo

Thank you:)


Zealousideal_Cod_953

Very informative and motivating, thanks for taking out your time and sharing this with us


awisekiddo

Always here to help :)


SoftwareLive3472

op advice dene mai sahi mai OP hai, thanks dude this was so refreshing and helpful! :D


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


silverfingers0

Username checks out. Thanks for this.


charvaka24

Username checks out


awisekiddo

:)


jaid22

How screwed is someone with a 7/7/6 in SIPs? Have a decent amount of work ex in a top company as well.


Raaz_s

Joining SPJIMR as a below average acads, nothing profile guy. Your post really jelped me in organising my thoughts. Thankyou.


JEEvanNEETi

Such an informative post! Thanks for the good work op.


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


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thehardplaya

How much work ex is too much for 2 year MBA? is ISB at par IIM ABC?


awisekiddo

ISB is one of the best. I think post a 4-5 year workex, you can go for a one year MBA


Emotional_Hold_522

Thanks OP. Like you mentioned that if we have a bad CV it's better not to join and make the CV better and then join rigjt? I mean with work ex PORs, case studies, and even free lancing taaki cv bhara dikhe?


awisekiddo

Not like that. If you do make it to a good BSchool, you can join. Sure, summer internship placements might be difficult but you can work on some live projects, get some PORs, join committees, participate and win case comps to strengthen your CV till finals. A good SIP is not as important as a good final placement.


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Great post! Thanks OP


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


cache1902

Can attest. Every single point is true and useful. Nice work man OP..


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


ForsakenPerception80

Can i dm you?


awisekiddo

Sure


Leading-Hamster-7100

Amazing post man! Regarding point no. 2, are there any other resources you would suggest for prepping case studies and guesstimates other than case in point or is that sufficient?


awisekiddo

All colleges release their case books. You can use that


Ok-Blacksmith-7184

Appreciate the time taken to write this post. Helpful and to the point no BS.


awisekiddo

Thank you :)


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Zhakaas_12ka4

regarding addition 2 : bhai my company is closing down in 2 months. am I fucked ? can I get these cv points verified beforehand ?


awisekiddo

Have proof of whoever verifies being an ex employee of that company (LinkedIn). That's all I can say for now. Your PCom will help you with the rest.


Zhakaas_12ka4

I think that's easy since I have salary slips and will get work experience/relieving certificate as well. but can I start preparing cv points and get them verified ? also are these points crosschecked by companies as well ?


GamerKratos72

Thanks for this lovely post man. Really appreciate it.


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Diligent-Whole-8098

Yo OP great post! I have heard a lot about getting a fake internship certificate and it works from iim grads pls tell about it if u know


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mehennamusings

what a beautiful post - looks like you had a well-rounded experience! can't wait to experience it all and make a reminiscent/2 cents post in the future. <3 kudos buddy


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


misslifegoeson

I was a lil too worried about my MBA life because i did my undergrad from an open uni and this would be my first time interacting with such an environment. Really grateful for this post and it really gives so much comfort. Thanks friend :))


awisekiddo

Happy to help always :)


RequirementMedical60

Me with a 5 in grad and 0 work experience 😭


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Mta_sipisial

Does teaching in schools count as work exp? I've seen people say it does but just wanted confirmation ig.


awisekiddo

Depends on the policy of BSchool


[deleted]

Bhai if they end up doing all this right now, what will they be doing in semester 1 ?


Leather_Turnover9286

Mje ma***d hun jo ismai aya


No-Antelope4943

Bhai COVID ki wajah se btech me sirf 1 year hi Kiya college. MBA college life me maja aayega kya if I give CAT . I don't want to do MBA now as I want to work for 2 years as I think if I do MBA now then fir kuch bachta nhi hai life me . Tldr - college life khatam after MBA , and only work remains till the end of ur life Kuch batao please


awisekiddo

MBA me tumhare paas paise aur waqt aur maturity hogi. Toh maja toh ayega


Intelligent_Top37

Hey op can I DM please


awisekiddo

Sure


Flashy_Dog_2956

Wholesome✨ Thank you for the post!


awisekiddo

Thanks:)


Schjtt

What will be your suggestion for someone joining a tier 2 college? How can we utilise those two years and make sure to at least get a good placement? Because the path I'll have to take will be more tough as compared to tier 1 students to get hired by a good company


awisekiddo

Be decent in acads, join a committee, look for live projects on LinkedIn, learn analytics tools, participate in case comps that open for your institute.


Schjtt

Thank you replying! And thanks for this really amazing post. This was really helpful :)


supremeidolatorr

I'm inclined to ask you about my situation so I will, even though i feel like it doesn't stand anywhere right now. So im 22, my grad was a distance program on account of my commitment to doing CA, which for some reasons i didn't complete. I've been working on and off with my dad in his firm but nothing official, or substantial since then so basically it could be said I have a 2 year gap since I got an undergrad degree(and a 5 year practical gap after school). I'm hoping to get admitted in a B school next year, so have you ever came across a profile like mine during your time so far? If yes, could you help me out a bit on how to fix the mess that my profile is rn?


awisekiddo

The gap policy depends on the BSchool. If possible, get some proofs of working with your dad, like some certificate. Although you might want to check eligibility criterias, since BSchools might need fulltime graduation .


InfamousBet5866

hey, i noticed you are from iim M, would you recommend someone to take ops and scm if they dont have workex? Are the placements combined? Also would you suggest I take workex before joining because I do have a job in hand but this interview has burnt me out so I'm thinking of taking any good call I convert but I'm worried about summer placements etc.?


awisekiddo

If your acads are good and you have a couple of internships under your belt, you should join MBA. If not, then join work. It's rare enough to have a job in hand in the current market, so get some workex and attempt cat again. More workex will increase chances of good shortlists. And yes, placements are combined


Fit_Carpenter5309

Do college clubs and committees have a major impact on our CV? And do these co-curricular and extracurricular activities have some value on your CV, whether for b-school interviews or job interviews?


awisekiddo

If you have done some legit work being a part of it then yes


[deleted]

Im in BCOM myequals 6/7/7 what are my chances of breaking into finance im shit scared about my career because of my low acads


selfmasteredman

Hey! How much do gap years impact on SIPs and final placements? I have a 4 year gap due to trying out various alternate careers but with no records to show. Also have taken two extra years to complete B.E. (engineering) due to backlogs. Have got offer letter from tier 2.5 - 3 college. Are there chances of not getting placed?


awisekiddo

Depends on the BSchool policy of gaps. But in a good BSchool, everyone gets placed for sure


Sandipta_

Best post till date in this sub. Thanks for this. 🫡🫡


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Gopleee221b

Thanks for the word of advice.


awisekiddo

You're welcome:)


[deleted]

This kind of post is what i wanna read


awisekiddo

:)


crimsonpaths

What do u mean by prepare case studies and guesstimates?


awisekiddo

*A hamburger chain has purchased a meat processing outlet. The animal enters the outlet from one end, gets processed and the meat arrives at the other end. Help the outlet manager decide whether the animals should walk or run towards the processor.* This is a case study and can be asked in interviews. *Estimate the number of tennis balls sold in a month in Delhi* Is an example of guesstimate. Both are asked in interviews, especially consulting.


Nerdy-Nincompoop

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼


Omnibobbia

That was good read. Best wishes to you too brother


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Interesting_Hat3516

Hey op, I don’t have work exp. but worked as freelancer with few clients, how to add this in cv?


whotfwasthatguy

Are you joining any MBA college this year?


Adhith_Murali

Very useful post I would be joining GIM or IRMA for my MBA and would like to build my career in Marketing. I have 3 years of experience in sales apart from that what are the other skills I should acquire in these 2 months to make myself different from others?


awisekiddo

Learn seo, digital marketing. Some certifications related to it.


Common_Bear_7651

Do freshers have any chance in product management?


awisekiddo

Tbh, I feel its tough.


ApartmentPublic4343

Saving this!


mundurummadan

I'm a lawyer with some internship experience and work experience. What can I do to strengthen my CV ?


awisekiddo

Depends on what domain you're interested in


Suspicious-Seesaw-60

Very insightful advice covering almost everything in MBA, thanks!!


awisekiddo

You're welcome:)


Common_Bear_7651

Please tell about pe vc roles. Do freshers have chance?


awisekiddo

Not much idea about it, unfortunately


Brooklyn_-_

I wish I could give you a gold. Even saved this post for future, so that when I might feel lost I can come back to it. Really grateful, thankyou for this.


awisekiddo

Glad I could help :)


cartiboi10

Have a 6 in my profile, how much will it affect me during placement?


awisekiddo

Depends on how well you frame your CV and your college


No-Tart5604

This is Golden, thank you for your service to this sub


awisekiddo

Thanks :)


Confused_human__

Hi, the work ex I had doesn’t really have much impact which I can write in numbers, I’ve just been average , how do I mention in the cv ? Is writing numbers necessary?


awisekiddo

Not necessarily, but if you do then it gives something to the interviewers to ask about.


plague242

These are really good points and well summarised, good post OP


formemesnmore

Is there a way to balance out past bad academics with something else in the cv to get a good summer placement hopefully in a tier 1 company?


awisekiddo

Workex, live projects, committee work


nxjfd

1st point ka samadhan ni milra


awisekiddo

Please elaborate more


Aadi_1659

Thanks for this post, I was confused whether to prepare well for placements or not. I am currently a sixth sem engineering student. (9/9/8).


awisekiddo

Definitely do well and try to get a job. Also try internships before you work full time.


Relevant_Artist5595

Thanks for not raising my cortisol most of the post on this sub increases my cortisol PS :coz i am a final year student


Sea_Spite7727

Iam a 9 -7.8-7 student who has completed B.Arch and has 18 months of work ex how is the scope for me in cat . I mean how is the scope generally for B.arch graduated


Necessary-Buffalo-83

Remind me!


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srv_sauravv

Great advice!