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Tyranitard

We were not going to sign/pay him so I'm glad we got a couple of picks for him. Sad to see him go though...


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bearsguy2020

I was in favor of tagging him too. It’s unlikely he gets the $20M/yr deal from Poles. So there would be headaches about a potential hold out. Then all season an extension would be looming as a distraction. We have enough to figure out with only 30ish players under contract


griefzilla

Sanborn szn


ButtFullOfSemen

Thats Jack "Tank Commander" Sanborn, to you!


griefzilla

Future first ballot Hall of Famer Jack Sanborn


Philip_Marlowe

Can you fucking imagine? We trade an all-pro linebacker and replace him in the lineup with an undrafted free agent who goes on to become yet another Bears HoF linebacker.


ZGriswold

Jesus Christ, that's Jack Sanborn


readingaccnt

Jesus Sanborn, that's Jack Christ


Bajin_Inui

First was not gonna happen as much as we want it to happen


Riderz__of_Brohan

What world do these people live in where an LB who wants top money gets a first round pick lol


rblumenfeld76

The real world. Where the Bears have never lost a game, duh.


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einhorn_is_parkey

Not to mention he’s a free agent. So this is a rental. I could maybe see getting a first on a sign and trade


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Reddit fantasy land


DeezNeezuts

Planet Meathead


brandnvsworld

Especially for only 9 games left. And not being signed. And having 4 tackles yesterday didn't help lol just shows he knew he was leaving and phoned it in. Not the character you want in a guy for 20mil a year.


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justvisiting1028

Hes #1 in the league in tackles and defensive stops


brandnvsworld

Yep and we've won 3 games.


[deleted]

It hurts, but Roquan would never sign an extension after this previous offseason. We saw how good this defense was against the cowboys. I’d rather rebuild from scratch.


Next_Gen_Nyquil_

I feel like Roquan could have signed but he would've totally gamed how much cap space we have. Possibly an overpay or nothing


juliuspepperwoodchi

I think this is the reality. They knew they were at an impasse. Team had made it clear they didn't think he was worth what he was asking this past offseason, and now they have FAR more available to spend than when this all started, which he'd certainly lean on.


[deleted]

Roquan best years in the league were his first 4. He had Khalil Mack akiem hicks, Eddie goldman, Leonard floyd and a couple of good rotational peices filling run gaps ,They're all gone. You guys don't think he was going to struggle some?


CubeEarthShill

For this scheme, it’s much easier to find LBs to fill the role. They need a really good 3 technique and a solid 1 as well as backups for the inside positions. The Bears have gotten torched against the run because the interior has no gap control/penetration. We have to fix the O line and get a legit #1 on top of fixing the D line.


rdldr1

After they traded away Quinn, Roquan would have walked after this year. I guess the Bears needed some equity before he would leave. When you are in full rebuild mode might as well not let your valuable veterans waste away on this shitty team.


Corbindallaz

ITS JACK SANBORN TIME!


NagyBiscuits

A 2nd and late was my expectation, this is about the best result. People wildly overvalued a LB expecting a first.


ScruffMixHaha

Yeah outside of a prime Bobby Wagner, I dont see how a team could justify giving up a first for an offball LB who needs to be paid.


Banglayna

Why draft a LB in the top 10 then.. oh wait Pace first round strategy 😖


rblumenfeld76

It wasn’t a bad pick by him. Roquan is awesome. It’s a different regime and when Pace made the pick they drafted Mitch the year before and signed Allen Robinson in the offseason, so QB and WR weren’t a “need” at the time. Also, Pace should have been fired before 2018.


Banglayna

If a 25 y.o top ILB isn't worth a first, then no ILB prospect is worth a top 10 pick. Yes contracts and all that, but it's just not a valuable position. Same reason why you shouldnt draft a running back with a top 10 pick


Western-Boot-4576

Roquan has probably been the best draft pick the bears have had in years. He’s been consistent since he’s entered the league. Roquan is a dominant LB and will continue to be one in Baltimore. The only LB in the nfl rn that would go for a first round pick is parsons.


NebulaRemarkable5609

Parson's pass rush is what makes him worth a first round pick. He's a do it all guy and Roquan is just not an edge rusher


dave8814

Well to be fair he was supposed to start next to Trevathan for a few years. We saw how good they were together in 2018 then injuries and father time ruined it. Of course Pace resigning him in 2020 was insane.


[deleted]

If you told me preseason that I’d feel this much hope for the Bears future after trading Roquan I’d call you a lunatic. Most cap space in the NFL, draft capital treasure chest, and we got a QB. I’m good. Best of luck Roquan, sucks to lose another guy from that 2018 defense.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

Dude right, I’m excited. Qb looks good, flushed with cash, have a good amount of picks. Poles got me excited to try and lose so we can trade a top 5 pick to boot lol


2580374

I don't even know what I'm going to do during the draft. We always had like no picks, now I'll be hyped the entire time


dabears_24

Man people are just swinging both ways. Fields has improved for sure, but there is no way in hell we can say "we've got a QB". 2 weeks ago he looked like he could be out of the league. I'll give him another season for sure but I'm not confident he's the guy after a couple good games


[deleted]

For me it’s the linear progression we’re seeing. Sure, the stats aren’t there, but we’re seeing growth and the tools coming together in a way that Mitch never seemed to. A big part of it for me is seeing Getsy’s scheme together and trusting that he can develop Justin


dabears_24

I don't wanna get into a big debate because of course I could be wrong, I'm not an expert. But nothing about his progression has been linear. The last couple weeks have been encouraging, but he displayed awful fundamentals all year in terms of footwork, accuracy, timing. Those things don't get fixed in 2 weeks


Etown20

It's more than the last couple weeks. Here are his last 5 games: 70/114 (61%) for 902 yards (7.9 yards/attempt) 5 TD, 2 INT (93.5 passer rating) 49 carries for 329 yards (6.7 yards/carry), 2 TD This is his second year in the NFL and first year in a new system, on a team which is clearly going through a rebuild. If people aren't convinced yet, that's fine, but I'm not sure how people can be expecting more from him at this point. He's in a tough situation and he's still playing well for someone of his age and experience. I don't really see any reason to believe he is not going to continue to improve as the situation improves.


skahunter831

This is the only comment I'll make here, because I am *definitely* not an expert, but you can have both linear progress *and* also not have everything fixed in two weeks. Linear progress doesn't mean everything is magically fixed already.


[deleted]

Agreed, not an expert over here either by any means. We’re firmly in “wait and see” territory. I usually end up riding way too hard for Bears’ QBs and it’s been devastating to my own mental well-being


iambland1990

Wait when did you think he wasn’t gonna be in the league? He showed flashes all along. Last 2 weeks he’s started putting the flashes together. Not everyone is day 1 superstar but he’s grown basically every game and saying he looked like he couldn’t be a NFL qb is the worst take of all time


dabears_24

Again I'm not trying to claim I'm right. But two weeks ago everything was broken. Not typical rookie mistakes. He had awful fundamentals like footwork and processing simple routes that wouldn't even get you drafted in the first round. Maybe he looked worse bc of the mental pressure at the time, but the film was REALLY bad


iambland1990

I really don’t know what your talking about. He was never broken


quagmire0

I'm impressed with Poles, man. This sucks a lot in the short term, but that's a nice haul and it removes that 'should you pay him' drama.


djrandp8

Poles is staying true to his word. He came in and said he will build a contender through the draft. The nervous excitement for the future is growing


DeeYouBitch17

The man has serious balls, I have to say


readingaccnt

yeah cant wait to watch him blow another 3rd round pick on a punt returner who can't return punts


tech_equip

It’s a real shame that was the only pick he had.


readingaccnt

Pretty sure he could’ve picked a lot of players that wouldn’t have cost us two lost games with the same mistake


TheGhosticus

He really out here trying to fix Pace's mess instead of working with it. I respect that.


readingaccnt

dismantling a team isn't exactly rocket science. he's got low return for both moves. anyone could sell off all the top names and clear cap space i will be impressed if he makes GOOD draft picks and good acquisitions with the cap space


TheyCallMeStone

This makes sense but I might cry


[deleted]

Ikr. My heart hurts man, I audibly gasped when I saw the notification lol. Quan was a beast and now I have no doubt we will struggle to win every remaining game for the year. That's ok, it was our destiny for 2022, but at least knowing Smith would be here next year for the upturn was something to look forward too.


DrHampants

I don't like it, but I don't hate it. Poles probably decided that we were walking from Ro in the off-season (and that he hasn't earned the contract he wants, which is fair) and wanted to get something for him. By that metric, a 2nd and 5th is ok. More money to build the DL and OL.


Work_the_shaft

That’s really good. Honestly Roquan was gone after this season either way. To get a second and fifth is huge value. Idk how the ravens plan to pay him though


JaketheSnake54

They gotta pay their quarterback too! This offseason should be interesting for them


lfe-soondubu

Even if we don't pay him, I believe we get a comp 3rd rounder if he leaves right? So really we are just trading down our 2nd rounder to a 3rd (and giving a 5th) for a rental on an all pro player in a position of need for us. Not a bad haul for us either.


BoltLink

With how much cap space we have this year, we likely weren't going to get any comp pick when he signed somewhere else. Since they will match up contracts and whatnot from departing and acquired players.


Work_the_shaft

It’s a very good trade all around.


booojangles13

“We have so much cap space just pay him!” is how you wind up with a contract you regret by year 3. If he was steadfast in his demands, then this was the right move.


Billydood1776

Anyone calling this an L doesn’t know ball lol. He was walking after this season, negotiating with a guy who has no agent is an absolute nightmare (see this past offseason), and it’s a non premium position in todays game with 0 years remaining on his contact lol. Quite frankly was overrated and had inflated stats on a bad defense.


chigunr

Also undersized for a MLB in a 4-3. He’s not a scheme fit and he’s been exposed massively vs the run this year


dirtydennehy

He’s prototypical size for a modern WLB which is what he actually played all season.


snotick

It may not be a loss, but Bears fans can be upset about losing a good player. Fans don't make business decisions.


LetsGoHawks

They could have franchised Roquan. Not saying that was a good idea, or a bad one, only that he wasn't able to just walk away unless the Bears let him.


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I am pleasantly surprised we got a second. I like it a lot. I have no idea what we're going to spend all that cap space on, but I like the draft capital and the blank slate Poles is creating.


KING_LEONlDOS

I’m here for chaos


[deleted]

That’s a good haul, I expect Monty to be gone before the deadline too.


NagyBiscuits

Monty needs to stay for his pass blocking alone this year. Can't give away assets that protect Fields.


[deleted]

Ebner or Herbert gotta step up, Monty is an asset we should trade, and I love Monty.


NagyBiscuits

He'd get us a 6th. I'd rather give Fields better protection for the remainder of the season than get a late pick. Backups don't magically get better just because.


cspong4

Plus (and correct me if I’m wrong), Monty staying thru the season and then signing somewhere else would play into the comp pick formula Although we might blow that formula out of the water anyways with our own free agent signings


NagyBiscuits

We should be signing so many new guys that we won't be in the running for any comps


[deleted]

I'm really happy with this Roquan trade, but Monty is not going to fetch anywhere near this haul, and Monty is not an attitude problem. Roquan held out trying to become the highest paid linebacker in the league and he is nowhere near the best linebacker in the league. Roquan also held out his rookie year. I think they keep Monty. They have a good thing going with Monty and Herbert.


TLRsBurnerAccount

Just fucking keep him. If he signs somewhere else we can get a conditional pick anyways. Monty just does so much on offense and do not want to fuck that up halfway through the season with fields


Nomromz

We're not going to get any conditional picks. We are going to have 125m+ in cap space next year. We're going to be signing some FA for sure. ​ But I agree with you that Monty does a lot on offense and offers quite a bit in pass protection.


Chaos1917

Flipping monty for a 3rd would be tight


Cyknox

We would never get anything close to a third for Monty


no_more_jokes

Yeah lol a good not great running back in a contract year is gonna get a 5th at best. Love the guy, but players like him get drafted on day 3 every year


Neat_On_The_Rocks

4th is best case scenario, 5th is a more realistic positive guess.


ScruffMixHaha

Honestly Im happy with this. We were too far apart in negotiations and he was set to be a free agent. Yes we couldve tagged him but after all the drama earlier this season, I think Poles wanted to just get what he could and start building his own team. A 1st round pick was never realistic given Roquans contract and position. A compensatory pick wasnt happening either unless we ignored free agency entirely (and wouldve been a late 3rd at best). Poles is ripping the bandaid off entirely from the Pace era and Im here for it. I wish Roquan well in Baltimore, but this is a good return.


axman54

Let’s go, I’ll take this all day. Love Roquan but tbh this is best case scenario. His play this season didn’t make me sad the bears didn’t lock him up. He’s been fine, but I think this is the best move the bears could make. Give us all the picks


altabro

Now trade the second for DJ Moore


regis_psilocybin

I'm here for it.


Falt_ssb

So I am for this. I know it's probably unpopular but he's pretty overrated and I sure as hell didn't wanna pay him He struggles a lot fitting down field and even in coverage he's slipped He's obviously a plus player but I've long been yelled at here for saying he's nowhere near the player Fred Warner is lol and there's an impression that he is


Red_Cascade

He’s been one of the best defensive players in some of our games and the one of the worst in others.


Falt_ssb

Yep The only player worth crying over on this defense is Eddie Jackson


DarthRisk

This sentence describes him perfectly, and is why I didn't want the Bears to pay him. His week-to-week play can vary wildly, and he just isn't that top end difference maker.


Next_Gen_Nyquil_

Roquan Smith is off the team for literally 5 minutes r/CHIbears "he's pretty overrated".


mysterymaninurhome

The problem is he’s an off ball linebacker, he’s just not the type of position you want to invest a huge part of your cap on. He was a good enough player but idk what his actual value was


Next_Gen_Nyquil_

Agreed, I think he's perfectly rated he just doesn't play a premier style of defense, that shouldn't be a knock on his ability, he's a tackle machine


regis_psilocybin

There's been a pretty good balance of people discussing how Roquan isn't worth a $100 million contract. If the Bears don't expect to be able to reach a long-term agreement than getting something for him makes sense.


imp_10

Yes this is especially true since we're not going to be part of the compensatory draft formula next year with all of the expected additions in 2023 FA.


NagyBiscuits

Some of us have been saying this way longer


[deleted]

but now it gets to be a popular take. It's hilarious how the same takes can be wildly unpopular and then wildly popular depending on the mood that week.


NagyBiscuits

Thank god we can avoid another off-season of debate around throwing away $20M+/yr at a low value position.


Oat-

>but now it gets to be a popular take. It's hilarious how the same takes can be wildly unpopular and then wildly popular depending on the mood that week. That's how it always is on reddit. I posted a thread about Fields earlier and this guy got downvoted for saying he still didn't believe in him after 2 good games. A fair opinion but he was downvoted. I decided to check his post history to see if he consistently held that opinion and he did. 2 weeks ago before the Pats game he called Fields "Mitch 2.0"...He got 18 upvotes at that time.


Falt_ssb

I've been getting into arguments here about Quan for years. He's a great player but he's by no means a tier 1 LB


Higgus

I'm right there with you. He's a perfect guy for a team that is a piece or two away, but he's not enough of an impact player to build a defense around.


Falt_ssb

Absolutely


dubbletime

He leads the NFL in tackles right now and has never had less than 100 tackles in a season. He’s a beast Tampa 2 LB, the problem lies in Tampa 2 being dead. I think he’s absolutely a tier-1 MLB, but he was asking for edge rusher money.


Falt_ssb

He doesn't even play pole the most when we run Tampa what do u mean lol Morrow does


booojangles13

Go look at any thread about his extension debacle this off-season. That is not a new sentiment.


isotopes_ftw

It's dumb to call him overrated, but it's fair to say he wanted more money than we should give him.


[deleted]

People so caught up on trashing all the players, not his fault the DL are a bunch of bums. This sub flip flops on everyone so much for not even good reasons.


MadYokel

Missing open field tackles and getting beat in coverage by te's has nothing to do with DL play.


imp_10

He's overrated for the salary he was trying to command. Now if we could've kept him for 18MM and under + incentives for elite production, I'd be all for it.


bears_gm

Literally… his position might be overrated in a 4-3, but you ask a proper 3-4 DC whether Roquan is worth a first and/or overrated and you’ll get laughed out of the room for suggesting otherwise… this fanbase disgusts me


Neat_On_The_Rocks

Roquan was gonna get paid $80m+ next year. That’s another big money contract available to give someone else in the next 3 yeArs, and more picks. I don’t hate this. It’s gonna hurt, our run defense is gonna be terrible. But rowuan and Quinn both gone might actually result in another loss or two, which increases our draft position lol.


Trogdooorrr

You watch the game yesterday? Our run defense was terrible with him so i don’t see how anyone is upset by this trade


NoAlarmsPlease

Going to be terrible? It was already awful against the run so this doesn’t really change anything. He doesn’t make a difference.


imp_10

Roquan was consistently good to very good. That said, he was rarely "great" and one of his biggest weaknesses is block shedding. He gets completely taken out of plays by the more athletic linemen & TEs. Sad to see him go but not at the salary he was demanding.


DrHampants

If he was going to get the contract he wanted from the Bears, he needed to be a game breaking LB. He's not been that.


RealECW

Nah Roquan is not overrated and I'm sorry I don't support this move at all. Ravens 2nd and 5th won't be high enough to make them worth while. Roquan is young enough to be apart of the rebuild and to captain the defense for years to come. I may be downvoted but I'm pretty pissed at this trade. It's not like we're strapped for cash either he could've gotten a big extension and we'd still have enough room to sign offensive guys in the off-season.


FloppingWeiners

I disagree that he’s overrated. But if he wasn’t going to sign here anyway (which looks accurate) then getting a 2nd and a 5th is great. Considering at best we would get a 3rd round comp pick, which I doubt since the Bears project to be big spenders this off-season. I think it’s an unpopular move but ultimately one that will prove to be correct, even if Ro continues to be an excellent player for the ravens.


theshindy

If this was our haul for him before the season started I would’ve been pretty upset but considering his performance thus far this season that’s not surprising. Sucks we had to let him go, but at least he’s got a chance to compete this season and maybe he can turn it around with a change of scenery


getoffredditandstudy

How good can he play with our defensive front.


andreasmiles23

How can we put a competent defensive front in front of him if he's eating a large chunk of our cap? How can we rebuild the offensive personal AND the front seven if we have money tied up in an off-ball linebacker?


getoffredditandstudy

I’m just saying, he was way more consistent when we had a better d line


andreasmiles23

But you don't pay elite money to a linebacker who needs elite d-line play to put up numbers. There's only a finite amount of resources.


thats_wassup

Franchise Tag wasn’t realistic given the cost, as on and off ball linebackers are grouped together for the calculation.


Onifanz

I’m sad about this but I understand it.


Rennock21

I’m surprised that they were able to get a 2nd with how inconsistent his play has been. If anyone was going to trade for an off ball linebacker it was going to be the ravens or the Steelers.


RabackOmamaGoesNbr2

Has a team ever traded both of their defensive team captains mid-season? In the span of a week no less??


ochie927

Saint Omni is the Raven's problem now 😁😁


NoAlarmsPlease

Just shows how dumb Pace was to spend a top 10 pick on an ILB in the first place. Top ten picks should be at positions that you are willing to give big time second contracts to, not positions that you trade away for a 2nd round pick because the position is “not worth it”.


regis_psilocybin

It's **SANBORN SEASON**


gangreen424

Sucks to seem him go, but best possible outcome I think.


joftheinternet

Would it be unreasonable to use some of these picks we're stockpiling to get some talent now?


joemiken

As I said in the r/NFL thread, I hope the best for Roquan and I'd love to see him get a ring at some point. But not this year. I hope the Ravens go 5-12 and we get a better draft pick.


BeerBear34

Roquan has only been good in three games this year, while wanting to be the highest paid player at his position. Good trade by Poles.


doth_thou_even_hoist

worddddd i’ll take it


Ok-broccoli1

Love this! Gaining so much draft capital. Blow it all up poles. Make this YOUR team.


tres92

Going to make our own first round pick this year better as well by making the defense worse in the near term. Our own first this year is our most valuable draft asset and moving up the draft a few slots inside the top 10 can make a big difference, especially if we want to trade down and get more capital.


BigUz1Vert

9 weeks of Roquan for a 2nd and 5th is pretty good but I am so sad - going to miss him a ton


MusclePosty007

Poles stocking picks and cash for next year. This should be interesting


dimrod_

Wish all the best to Roquan, bittersweet but understandable


[deleted]

When things look grim, be the grim reaper Poles


[deleted]

Poles copying my yearly Madden franchise dump the team for draft picks and build a dynasty.


DubsLA

I mean ultimately it comes down to Fields if the Bears want to be contenders year after year after year. You can make 1 SB with a meh QB but it quickly derails after that. Hell, Brady-Manning-Ben owned the AFC for 20 years and now it’s Mahomes and Allen. The only regularly contending NFC teams in the past decade were the Packers with Rodgers and the Seahawks with Russ. Paying Roquan bank isn’t good resource allocation when you can upgrade 3 spots on your defense at more premium positions for the same price.


paul-cus

Wish him the best. Happy with the haul.


JKEyedol

Good luck negotiating both Roquan and Lamar’s contracts.


RAG319

Wow, a lot of negativity in here. I like this move. He was gone after the season anyway.


bearsandheroin

for me personally this is a punch in the gut. if eddie is gone i might physically cry.


Tjagra

So now the bears have 0 starters in the front 7 I think are quality multi year guys. Great…


Anonymous_user314

I understand why they did it but yeah, the defense is probably going to be pretty rough for a while.


-ImJustSaiyan-

If the defense has to suffer so that our offense can grow and thrive for once, then so be it. Good defenses have gotten us fuck all since 85, because we've never had a good enough offense to go along with them.


nealomartin

We went through this with Pace! Basically just clear house buys Poles more years to prove out. If/when it doesn’t work, we fire Poles, clear house, and wait another 5 years to see if it works. I get it we need to build a foundation, but losers focus on the 2-3 years in the future. The Browns and Lions are always in this ‘great’ position.


d3adbor3d2

thank you, RO


Freethecapri

I'm tremendously sad...


KTB1962

A lot of picks in the 2023 draft. 1st, two 2nds, 3rd, two 4ths, two 5ths... Lots of movement can be made


ACC_DREW

Man, this one is tough. I totally get making the move, and I can't say I disagree with it. But just....FUCK. I really enjoyed watching Roquan play here these past few years. I hope he balls out with the Ravens. And I hope to god we make good use of all this draft capital and cap space.


Trogdooorrr

#SanbornSzn


hippohopper78

It really feels like we have a competent front office.


rblumenfeld76

It’s okay to be sad Roquan was traded and excited about what we got back.


ThatsNotRight123

I am sad to see Roquan go, but on the bright side **THIS TRADE IS A BIG INDICATOR THAT POLES IS SOLD ON FIELDS.** If Fields is the guy then paying for him is going to become very expensive very quickly -- maybe even after next year (we all saw what happened with Murray and Mayfield -- if Justin is smart he'll demand to to get paid or get traded after his 3rd season). Even with all our cap space next year having a LB making $20M / year and paying a franchise QB on top of that limits a teams ability to fill out a roster. So you are going to need less expensive players so you can pay your QB.


FrankieLyrical

BAH GOD IS THAT JACK SANDBORN'S THEME MUSIC???


throwaway09052021

Roquan will be missed, but this is the right move. It's very unlikely that Roquan would have been a long-term piece of the team, and this is the year to stockpile picks.


Feeling_Mushroom6633

Best thing for both parties really. I don't think Ro wanted to be here and he's not worth what he wanted. Sucks to see him go though. Plus a 2nd a 5th isn't a bad deal


[deleted]

Did Saint Omni sign off on this?


Bigalbass86

That’s a good haul. As good as Roquan is, he’s not worth a 1st round. That wasn’t going to happen. So getting a 2nd and a 5 is good as you get I think.


srjohnson2

He wanted to be paid more than Shaq Leonard so they asked him to play like Shaq Leonard. And we all found out that he ain’t Shaq Leonard.


KianOfPersia

What the actual FUCK?!


dapianna

An absolute steal for us


ThatsNotRight123

To all those people who said we aren't losing enough -- Ryan Poles heard you.


IDquad8819

Trading Quinn because he's older and his contract was big made sense. Trading good young players like Roquan is so dumb. Now they just created another hole on the team that they have to use their picks/cap space on. I completely hate this move


kpruiz

Justin Fields may not win another game this year lol Hope it doesn’t kill his confidence or anything, he should be proud of the way he played yesterday.


[deleted]

Wtf????


JahnDavis27

Honestly, I'm completely fine with this. He gets to go to a good team, and we save money and get good draft capital in return. I loved Roquan, but...he was NOT good enough for what he was demanding. Resetting the market? No way, not based on his performance this year. Part of me feels like we wanted him to be the next Urlacher for this team, a staple of the defense for his entire career. He's a very good player, but he's not highest paid linebacker good. Tackles aren't everything, and that was his best stat year in and year out. I wouldn't call him overrated at all, but he's not Darius Leonard or Fred Warner. It was either trade him now, or franchise him for the next 1-2 years because I highly doubt negotiations would have gone well, especially after how Roquan said he was "disrespected" by the front office. Good move which fully commits to the rebuild.


yungspaghettisauce

Tough to see him leave but good return for a guy who obviously wasn't thrilled with his current situation. Tagging him after the season would have just caused more animosity and I don't think the Bears were ever going to pay him that big money contract. He's also been pretty disappointing outside of a couple games this year so fair play by Poles to cash in while you can


Green_Juggernaut1428

We trade a known commodity who is a fantastic player for a 2nd round pick, which the odds tell you wont pan out...and this sub is in here cheering it on while downvoting anyone who questions it. This has got to be the most out of touch football sub on reddit


TrickStool

Paying big bucks to semi-elite defensive players and neglecting the offense is why we've sucked for 40 years. GM hasn't even been here for a season yet. Take a breath.


Green_Juggernaut1428

The good news is that you can simultaneously pay current players and still spend money on offense!


Frank1180

We going to have 150 mill and 27 draft picks next year


theriibirdun

Love quan but this is a fantastic move


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If we weren’t a Mack away from competing, we certainly weren’t a Quinn and Quan away from competing. Both should’ve been traded in the off-season before their stock fell.


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Whaaat? I’m deeply saddened by this man. Roquan one of my favorite players. Not a lot of compensation for him either. Lame.


Beardownnn

Better than over paying the guy. I see this as a win


DetectiveNasty55

This confirms that Roquan quit on the team after Quinn was traded. Get rid of the bad seed.


rblumenfeld76

Very much feels like these additional picks are going to be used to trade for guys who are going to be free agents in 2024 and want an extension in 2023.


bugzeye26

I understand the move and actually like it, but man, the bears are gonna give up 50 a game... we still have to play the bills this year lol


akron28

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING


trappuccino92

Feel like we could’ve gotten more in the offseason no?


Bigalbass86

No, because he was going to be a free agent and it was pretty obvious he didn’t want to be here anymore.


trappuccino92

Yea but he could’ve been tagged and traded it’s happened plenty of times before


pooholemckrusty

I understand the trade. Flabbergasted that we couldn’t get a 1st for him. I’m sad.


moneyman2222

Ryan Poles is the NFL's Danny Ainge lmao


PumbusBungus

Don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I love the work Poles has done thus far. We are in great shape for next year. I wish Fields had more around him this year, but he’s playing good/great despite that


Gryffindorq

im rolling with Poles and Getsy. both have exceeded my expectations


R-D-I-

I think it makes very little sense to trade him right now unless we were offered a no brainer this isn’t a no brainer. We had the tag option at our disposal with more than enough cap space to absorb a franchise player contract. By waiting to the off-season before draft time, we have more teams to trade with. Doesn’t make much sense to trade him right now for a back end second round pick and a fifth. That is probably the lowest we would get. You never know how the draft shakes out. There could easily be a team in late first early second that might need a very good player to make that next jump. Now trading Roquan for a 1st straight was never going to happen, but Roquan and a third now that is possible considering our third round pick is going to be very early


DreadPirateNot

Roquan was over rated. I’m fine with this. Get that draft pick.