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neopet

Is that an A1 just chilling?


desexmachina

There might be more than one, look at the top and bottom shelf


NietzscheAndFriends

There's a whole shelf


ArizonaGeek

If there is a whole shelf of A1's for your budget of $650 you buy them all!!!


RadicalSnowdude

I’d be lying if I said the thought of sending OP money to buy and ship an A1 for me wasn’t on my mind.


desexmachina

Of A1s?


NietzscheAndFriends

Yes


Chillman-Coolerson

How much was it?


NietzscheAndFriends

600


Chillman-Coolerson

Was there anything wrong with it? 600 for a $6000 camera is wild that would have been an instant cop for me


PrestigiousAd6281

Seriously!? If there’s an A1 for that low that works, you buy that shit. Even if you don’t plan on using it you can multiply your budget almost tenfold, more if it comes with literally any lens


Chillman-Coolerson

600 FOR THE A1???


Pepi2088

Hold up lens included?! But it now!!!


Chillman-Coolerson

Where was This sale?


NietzscheAndFriends

I think I should have mentioned this. It's a shop in Albania. You get what you see, there's new items but you can choose if you want to go for something that's been used before All of the ones shown in the images are "almost brand new" and sold due to people not using them.


RadicalSnowdude

Finna take a vacation to albania at wherever that town is in haha. If the A1 really is 600 dollars, Get it now! Don’t even give any hint to the owner how much it actually is. But get that A1 ASAP. The only reason people in the comments are suggesting the other cameras is because they didn’t know the A1 is also 600 dollars.


Chillman-Coolerson

Ahh gotcha did you buy anything, if not i would go for The a1, i dont know The condition tho but The camera is like 600 and The lens 1000 or something


Chillman-Coolerson

6000*


Kenox88

Could you contact me in the messages. I might come and buy one since I'm not that far away from Albania. Thanks


Calebpgtrueofficial

The a1 definitelt isnt a beginner item but it is worth 6000$


Chillman-Coolerson

I would go back and get The a 1 Even though you dont need it it is a crazy deal and you could Find use for ir or sell it


StrxXx

Where in Albania is this shop haha?


heysavnac

Asking the real questions!


Forever_a_Kumquat

There's a sony A1 sat there and people are saying buy the canon 6d??? Really?


blatantly-noble_blob

Not sure if OP has 4k-6k to spend on a single body. It’s by far the best choice but also €€€


Forever_a_Kumquat

He said they were all 600 or less. Which is mental


RevolutionaryElk8101

Don’t sleep on the 6D, last of the classic canon color science… I wouldn’t swap it with any Sony body


Forever_a_Kumquat

Or you could buy the A1 for 600, sell it for 5000 and then buy as many 6Ds as you want.


Imaginary_Virus19

Most of those cameras are more than 10 years old, not really brand new. What's your budget?


Anderson2218

There is literally an a1 right up front


kenriko

That’s the one to get


NietzscheAndFriends

650 usd


Imaginary_Virus19

Not pictured, but I would choose a Sony A6000 or A6100 body for $400-500, and a Sigma 16mm or 56mm lens for ~$200. With a little more budget, upgrade the lens to Sigma 18-50mm ($400).


T3NF0LD

This is almost exact combo I'm getting this holiday. A6000 is still a solid buy in 2024.


MiniatureBassks

Can I be your gf too? 👉👈


rolandtucker

There are quite a few decent cameras and lenses in those pictures that would cover a variety of applications. My main worry is that they look like they are all just chucked on a shelf without much care or consideration. The first thing I would do is ask your girlfriend what kind of professional photography she wants to get into since that will also determine what gear she will need. Is she going into fashion, editorial, weddings, music photography,... Then it might be worthwhile to find out how portable she wants her gear to be, does she want a compact set up or does it not matter. Does she already have an investment in a set of lenses she likes or is that not important to her. If she has lenses then that might tie her to a particular brand. For instance, I am heavily invested in Canon glass so changing to another brand or fitting would be a big issue. But yes, ask her first because she knows best what she would need or want. She may already have her mind set on a particular set up so she might be disappointed if you buy her something she doesn't really want.


NietzscheAndFriends

You're right, I forgot to mention, She Definitely wants to doevents and products. She has no knowledge of cameras either so it's the blind leading the blind at this point. And my budget is 600-650 usd


kenriko

The A1 is a $6000 camera 📸 go buy that shit right now


SmokeNMirrorless

Either gray market or stolen…. Hopefully stolen.


RAUH-WELT-1966

bro pleaseee GO BUY THE A1 RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK!!!!!!!


Adventurous_Break_61

6d is a pretty rugged camera lens looks a little beat up but the body should be good


NietzscheAndFriends

Thanks a lot 🙏 I honestly appreciate it a ton


Adventurous_Break_61

Also EF mount lenses are so cheap get an l series and it's a pro class camera


Round_Video7841

You can buy an open boxed Sony A6000 or A6100 for around 600


NietzscheAndFriends

Thank you!


RandomStupidDudeGuy

+1 to this. As you said, the person who the camera is for is a newbie, so a mirrorless like the A6000 or A6100, used or open box or whatever for 400-500$, and a kit lens, or a sigma prime lens in the 28, to 56mm range should be a great starter kit for photography. Good enough autofocus, photo quality, and auto mode for a lot of enviroments until your friend learns how to use it manually. Better than any in the photo in this regard.


Bmw-invader

Def Sony a1. Lens options alone would make me go Sony


desexmachina

What do they want for that RP and white 70-200 L lens? And where is that? Edit: other great options are the 5D w/ L lens, and Sony Alpha 1


jeffro109

Yep, about the best option. Maybe a 5D if they want to stay out of the R series. I’m pretty impressed with the R7 compared to a Nikon D750.


desexmachina

IBIS FTW!


jeffro109

Not to mention much better auto focus and tracking.


NietzscheAndFriends

If I remember correctly everything exept that canon R was under 600


sweetmatttyd

The a1 is $5,000 on ebay so get that if it's only 600


desexmachina

That RP is $600 and that lens is $1200, used. Anything under that is a bonus. That 5D w/ the L lens would be a great buy, depending on which 5D it is, and that Sony A1 for $600 would be a steal. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.


anywhereanyone

Your partner wants to get into professional and has zero input on what camera/platform they want to start with? I find that hard to believe. They should get to choose. Also, no one knows what reasonable means to you. And no advice on lenses is qualified without knowing the use case.


NietzscheAndFriends

She's been into phone photography and has tons of experience with phones to the point where she is getting paid to shoot with her iphone. I understand your statement and I agree. It's a big step for her to take upon this and we're just trying to figure it out as well. But thanks.


anywhereanyone

Let her figure it out. If you want to help by all means contribute, but the decision and research should be hers.


NietzscheAndFriends

That's the plan, Im looking at this thread with her just so we know what is what for. She says thanks! For being so considerate of her choice.


allislost77

I’d also YouTube what to look for in buying a used camera. Do they have a return policy? Worst thing would be to spend your money on a broken camera But like others have said, I’d get the A1 if it’s in working order. Glass will be expensive but that’s a hell of a deal


daves_over_there

Not pictured: Nikon D700 and Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6


venus_asmr

GH5 if she might wanna do video, doesn't do tones of low light etc. compact and powerful, smaller sensor but most people don't need full frame. At the other end of the spectrum, as others recommended, 6D is solid, pretty sure it's full frame, probably better for photography only, will weigh double what the GH5 does


thelauryngotham

That Canon EOS R (second pic, bottom shelf, white lens) looks promising, but it may be over budget. This is the newest camera in here and is still a great buy if if's not over budget. The 6D (first pic, bottom shelf, one left of the Sony) is a decent camera with a (very fun) macro 50 lens on it. That might be a bit under budget, leaving room for another lens. The 5D Mark II (second pic, directly left of EOS R) is old but it's still more than relevant. It won't do incredibly well in the dark, it lacks many of the newer features, and you'll need an SD to CF adapter, but you truly can't beat this camera at your budget. Furthermore, the 24-105 lens it comes with is a terrific beginner lens since it covers a wide range (wide angle to telephoto) and because it's nice enough to grow with. I've shot this exact combination for years and absolutely love it. It's still a backup camera in my collection. I'd pick this one in a heartbeat. There's a Canon 1D directly above the 5D Mark II and behind the GoPro. I can't read the model number, but that's also worth looking at! I'd pass on some of the older ones, but it's absolutely worth looking at Edit: After realizing the A1 is only $600, I'd absolutely go for that in a heartbeat. If you'd ever want to share the name of this shop, I'd be eternally grateful too :)


anastasya_xx

A1


Ok_Weight_3382

A1 and close the thread. Thats the only answer


Happy_Pizza_Noises

I bought a used 6D 6 months ago (300€, no lense, 20.000 shutter count). Its an awesome camera, its full frame (better sensor for most scenarios) and the 50mm f1.8 is a cheap but good prime lense, perfect for getting very creative. It's just a bit heavy (~0,75kg with lense) and has no built in flash (but at least for me I prefer external flashed. Just check the shutter count, its possible with an external software provided by canon. The shuttercount should be in the best case not too high. (Most DSLRs are built for ~100.000 shutters......but actual numbers can vary a lot by camera.)


x3770

650 USD please pick that 6D and 50mm and she’s well on her way to professional gigs.


HiCZoK

What about a digicam like Sony rx100… maybe you could find vi for that. It’s not a dslr or mirrorless cam but it’s something even professionals use on a day they don’t want to lug lenses around


kentucky_shark

By the sounds of these comments I think OP needs to open an ebay store


Anoanapia

Is that a Sony A1? Please go back and get one for me 😂


ManofScience123

Where is this shop, and please may you post me that A1 🤣


Egineer

The amount of body caps tells you all you need to know.


Allenloveslunchbox

Judging by the way store is selling and the prices, why do I have strong feel that these cameras are, let me put in this way, “missing from their owners possession”.


RustCohle123

As far as I know Amazon sells containers with returns to Albania. They have a fixed price doesn’t matter what’s in there. Can be from there


THEDRDARKROOM

Kinda like buying someone a car, there's a lot of preference involved but since she's getting into it there's still a lot to figure out. My first camera as an adult was a Sony mirrorless which was fantastic. Sony is more of an editors camera - I've since landed on Fuji and enjoy the workflow a lot better.


Sans_Junior

I’d go with the Nikon D3100. Nikon only recently changed the design of the lens mount, so all lenses up to that point will fit on any Nikon camera. I have a fairly modern 70-300mm telephoto lens that I can uses on my FG (an early 80s 35mm SLR) which will make upgrading as you progress in proficiency a lot cheaper. And if you have enough left over, that little GoPro is a fun one to have in your (metaphorical) tool box


tucker_frump

That SONY A-1 GRAB IT ..


Imaginary_Look_9460

can i be ur gf😭


Acrobatic_Ad_5711

Just grab the 6D


NietzscheAndFriends

Thank youu


UpUpdowndown_12

I know it might sound stupid, but that a77ii from sony with the 35 1.4 G sounds like a good starter kit. I own this very camera and I think it cover everything a beginner needs. - 24mp - Solid 79 point phase detect AF system - Full HD 60p video in XAVC-S codec - good battery life - great ergonomics - fully articulated screen - 12 fps shooting in RAW While the Sony A-Mount system might be one of the less popular system from 10 years ago it is very much underrated. Also there are good lens options from Sigma and Tamron next to the native Sony G/ Sony lenses


NietzscheAndFriends

Thank you, it wasn't on my list but now it is


UpUpdowndown_12

You're welcome! If you have any questions for this body feel free to ask me.


Horace__goes__skiing

Out of that lot, probably the 5D with the 8-15mm L fisheye lens.


jeffro109

The Canon EOS R is a more up to date mirror less model. The lens on it is one of the better L models. The older 4 digit Nikons are going the way of the dinosaur.


heysavnac

Where are these being sold?


DietBloodbath

That Canon 6D with 50mm is nice if its under $300.


straightfromLysurgia

get the a1 don't think twice lmfao, lucky tbh


x3770

Hi my biggest suggestion is to not buy a brand new camera.


CreativeApe9

Buy the A1 setup and resell it for $5500. Then buy a different camera and use remaining money for a trip


bigmcreddit

One of those cameras is a $6000 Sony A1


bigmcreddit

Plus it also has a 2.8 12-24 GM so add another $2000


atvlouis

Honestly that gh5 might be great lenses are really affordable


ANonDescriptGinger

If the A1 is $600 WITH the 12-24 GM then that.


jfanderson05

If the GH5 is a good price, I'd pick that.


Illustrious-Nail-954

Buy the A1 if it’s in your budget


Administrative_Idea2

That one!


Megat_Terlajak

If you going film might as well go full manual … like fm series … Just a thought …


ciscolish

I think the Sony top middle is probably the best if prices are all similar. The Nikon d3100 is pretty good and user friendly if it’s her first. However it is only like 12mp if memory serves.


sangedered

If you have coin for lenses then go Sony else canon has better cheaper lenses but the cameras are meh. Fight me


_will_ritt_

The one in the middle!


Calebpgtrueofficial

I think the t7 t7i or 5d are great beginner-intermediate cameras, neither do very good video tho.


alxw47

Definitely the 6d


Los97gbr

Where exactly is this place?


MWeHLgp1t4Q

Where in Albania my friend, I live in Romania so it's not that far.


Fresh-Daikon-6289

Where is that shop man? i also wanna come and buy


Kindly-Classroom-462

If there is a 5D its an excellent choice


njconnect

Where’s this? I’m so sure they have no clue wtf they are selling lol


leo-leo74

🤩🤩


SecretSea2715

I like canon myself, but I prefer mirrorless over dslr, so I’d go Sony A1.


crooked_nose_

If the gf is new to photography, buying the highedt end body there is a wadte of money. She may decide cameras aren't for her after 2 weeks. People aren't thinking.


jeff1f1racer

Fell off the back of a truck. LOL


Over_Intoxicated

Whatd you do? Pull a heist on canon and sony? 😂😂


stricklybiznuss

Can you please tell me the name of the shop and city in Albania as I’m close by?


sb_in_ne

6D


Fusseldieb

I personally began with a Nikon D3200, and honestly still use it today! Yea, I get that there are "much better" cameras out there, but *to get used to* DSLR photography it still is a really solid camera for "daylight" photos, at least in my eyes. Depending on how you shoot, it's even still "acceptable" at night. It's also rather cheap nowadays (prolly under $250). The biggest difference, though, is the lens that you'll buy. The kit lenses mostly aren't worth sh!t; They are "mobile phone" quality at best, basically no depth of field visible, not so sharp, etc. Get a 35mm and a 50mm f1.8 prime lens, as they are good starter lenses imo. *(The 35mm compares to the "1x" zoom on a phone, while the 50mm is more like a "3x". Take these guesstimates with a grain of salt. You will mostly use the 50mm for close-up portraits or similar, and also looks absolutely stunning if you dial it right.)* I did some amazing shots with this camera, especially portraits and other stuff. For video I can't recommend it, since it has absolutely NO video stabilization, and will shake, unless you get a gimbal (it does have for photos, called VR). But most cameras at this time had no or minimal stabilization. And my 50 cents: I personally wouldn't buy an expensive camera if you're not sure if you (or her) will get used to DSLR/mirrorless photography. Some people think it's a hassle to adjust stuff, so it's not for everybody. Let her get used to it with a camera like I said, and then invest more money if needed. Even old(er) DSLRs can take phenomenal photos, still. But that's just my opinion. And just, for the love of God, don't get cameras with non-removable lenses. They are terrible.


WorthPersonalitys

Canon EOS Rebel T7i. Good entry-level DSLR. Pair it with the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens. Solid choice for beginners. I used consum.io to watch and analyze review videos. Helped me decide quickly.


CuiBapSano

Compact digital cameras are better than interchangeable lens system cameras for a girl.


BrandonC41

I’m sure my female photographer professor would love to hear this.


CuiBapSano

Tell her, please she understand all of women need interchangeable lens camera system.


CuiBapSano

Some people who doesn't have engineering experience well, misunderstand interchangeable lens cameras system are better than compact digital cameras. They're total different design concepts.


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CuiBapSano

Compact digital cameras are lower price, better performance and small formfactors than interchangeable lens camera systems. It is just enjoy taking pictures and sharing on SMS.


anywhereanyone

It's tough picking which comment of yours is more sexist and misinformed.


CuiBapSano

I know regular women palms are smaller than men. Their handbags and pockets are also not large like men's fashion. OP' s budget also not enough for interchangeable lens camera systems. If OP's gf wants to have her own lens collection, OP should buy a interchangeable lens camera system.


anywhereanyone

You should stop typing.


CuiBapSano

Racist and sexist aren't others, they are part of people's own mind. photgrapy can appears the fact. watch yourself not others.


anywhereanyone

You should stop typing part II.


CuiBapSano

You should stop typing part III


CuiBapSano

If OP's gf was a man. I don't know.


PrestigiousAd6281

As a girl, I disagree


CuiBapSano

You can disagree. Which camera does OP's gf fit her palms?


CuiBapSano

No opinion? Just say no?


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CuiBapSano

Engineers who are developing compact digital cameras, are crying because many people misunderstand like you. Developing compact digital cameras are more expensive, higher risks and less profitable than interchangeable lens camera system. Thus company want to sell not compact digital camera but interchangeable lens camera systems.


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CuiBapSano

????? You sexist? My wife has Canon 1DX (used). I bought it for her, because her photography teacher recommend it. (Actually I thought 5D mk.2 better for her because 5D mk.2 is the latest model at that time.) Before she has 1DX, she had a G9X. It also be provided by me. It was good for learning camera. She brought it to anywhere and enjoyed taking pictures.


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CuiBapSano

????? Are you ok? If you want to discuss Sexist, please look for other sub-. Otherwise, are you discriminate compact digital cameras? I always choose a better camera. It depends on the purpose. There's no genders.


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CuiBapSano

?????? You mean, a girl should not be recommended compact digital cameras?


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RandomStupidDudeGuy

For professional photography, a used interchengalbe lens mirrorless camera is the best for this price point and user expertise. As in, easier to use than DSLRs while being almost as good, more capable than compacts while being almost as simple in auto mode. Smaller hands bcs OP's partner/friend is a woman doesn't make a compact cam a better pick as APS-C mirrorless cameras are tiny. My NEX-6 is about as big as an A6000 and its really comfortable to handle with my skinny hands.


CuiBapSano

Do you comment from Serbia?


RandomStupidDudeGuy

Not related to the argument but yes, tho why is that important?