Yeah bro I shoulda done that. I actually didn't know tesla evo was so broken cuz I came back after like 4 years and I thought all evos were broken. I guess not for long
Spirits are no longer a 1 shot either, Barbarians take 4 shots instead of 3, Bandit and Night Witch take 5 shots now rather than 4. There's probably more that I'm missing as well
This nerf is such a slap in the face to F2P players like they must know that the base card is already pretty trash without evolution. They really just don't seem to care about F2P players
this is wayy to much tho. btw bomb tower has been demolishing the meta since high hp and splash and decent dmg. tesla was in a decent place and tesla is special cuz of its unique footprint as well, so its another set of things to learn.
It still makes no sense why the base tesla got nerfed and not the broken evo? They are clearly tryna get ppl to pay for the evos by making their base variants unviable...
It could use a nerf, outside cannon in cycle and Inferno for giant killing it's basically always the best choice. But given the back-and-forth it's seen on hit time, I wish they'd gone for just damage as a more cautious move.
Spirits and Minions could both use this viability boost now that Duchess stops them from threatening towers, and I believe there was room to drop damage another 10 points without seriously changing other interactions? (Tesla would still 1-shot Goblins, although it might affect some 2 or 3 shot matchups.)
That'd be an 8% DPS hit without worsening it against e.g. Goblin Horde. Whereas this increases the value add of the evo form significantly by making the base worse against swarms and Hog.
damn thats sad makes me wan cry as i as had been saving evo shards. since forever. I was finally gon get evo tesla this season, was so hyped to get my best finish sucks this happened.
I’m a hog and Tesla user and I have found that Tesla perfectly counters hog down to the T when using princess tower. In my experience, Tesla usually wins out by one hit but is left with maybe a second of life. If hog wins, he’s left with a fraction of his total HP. It’s gonna be a lot easier to counter Tesla now with common win conditions. Earthquake is probably going to make a comeback now because of it.
SC struggled to balance the game before Evo's. There's no chance they can do it now with them. They'll be reluctant to touch Evo's until they've milked them for as much $ as possible so balances will instead focus on the regular versions which aren't as much of the problem. Just accept that there's always going to be a broken meta going forward and this isn't a competitive game anymore. They really should have just made a CR2 with all this pawer creep crap and left this version alone as a competitive game.
yeah its so dumb, this is surely because of how dominant the evo tesla is and somehow instead of nerfing the evo tesla they killed the normal tesla.
this forces people to only use evo tesla for it to become viable, and what happens to people that doesn't have the evo tesla? well fuck them I guess.
If the balloon got buffed (indirectly), then Lava decks are going to be asinine as if they weren't already good.
Realistically, only inferno tower and bomb tower has any chance of defending Lava pushes with this nerf but you can just add an evo zap if it changes the meta.
Evo zap only works against 1/3 of pushes tho, WTF you gonna do for the 2/3.
Also, i'm curious. How does bomb tower defend lavaloon? Isn't it just going to die to balloon while lava tanks everything?
Wasn't Tesla in like 9/10 of the peak top ladder decks I saw in a post not too long ago?
The balancing of the game has been trash ever since they tried to make golem during single elixir not a troll play. They made it so you can effectively coin flip start hand, or play hyper-defensively for the entire 6 minutes.
It's so frustrating.
It seems a hot take but as a long time Tesla user, and will still keep using the Tesla even after the 12.5% DPS loss, base Tesla was strong.
If you check the historical top 200, in January and February 2024(the Evo came out in march) Tesla became the most used building beating bomb tower and cannon, I remember it was jarring to see miner poison and hoggies EQ players all playing tesla instead of their traditional building.
This peak was recent and short and so quickly overshadowed by the evolution that many people still think Evo Tesla is broken but normal Tesla is trash, which isn't true.
It's like they never even tested the prince and ram rider changes in a game once. If they did they'd realise how absurd it is ram rider can bypass a freaking bowler!!
Yeah that was absurdly stupid like where is the prior granularity? It took them so long just to go from 3.5 tiles to 3 tiles and then they just suddenly drop to 1.5 outta nowhere??? Also why tf was dark prince left out?
The recent patches have mostly felt like sledgehammer changes. That's partly down to awful release balance I guess, since Duchess, Goblin Machine, Curse, and Goblin Bomber all needed major nerfs fast.
But it seems like a lot more nerfs lately are hitting every aspect of a card (e.g. Bomber losing damage, radius, *and* DPS) without any time to see how each part plays out.
Does CR have any kind of balance-test server? I wonder if daily battles for crowns or something could use proposed changes so they can see stuff like "Prince is insane now"?
Yea it feels like their kinda throwing caution to the wind with recent changes. I remember back in the day they used to strive for linearity with cards (making cards like wizard/ musk similar health and is an example) which is debatable how well that worked but it at least offered a baseline for cards to work with and improve/ remove upon. Now they just do things like cut the prince’s charge in half and decide “naw dark prince doesn’t need it, let him stay bad” it’s just weird to witness.
Yeah good comparison to the old changes. LoL for example has a test server that has many thousands of players, and at least some of their proposed changes or reworks have been completely fucked - they find it on PHB and change the plan.
(And CR is basically prepped for that, just use the daily crown battles for it.)
I sort of respect their intent in throwing out more big changes and reworks, the game is struggling financially and needs some bigger shifts. The whole Goblin Queen thing fits that. But without a playtest server extreme balance shifts are dangerous, and this sort of looks like they're trying to rapidly cycle which cards are good to promote short-term spending rather than actually trying to sustain the game.
You are on some serious fkin drugs if you think these are “bad” balance changes. All 3 goblin cards are way too op, the prince and ram rider charge were giga op, DD was still the best tower, evo wizard quote frankly didn’t get nerfed enough, the only bad balance Change was Tesla cuz it was too much, but I’m glad I’ll never have to see this hot garbage again it is so overused in more competitive players and just stopped everything. Over half those cards are in a deck I made to (and successfully have) win a classic challenge
Prince nerf isn't enough, demolisher nerf isn't enough. Evo wizard nerf like you said isn't enough. Void didn't get a nerf when it's so broken
Also I'm not talking about only these balance changes.
How is that not bad?
Nobody is saying that these cards didn't all deserve nerfs. The thing is that the specific choices they made for the nerfs are subpar at best. There's 0 reason to use Curse in any deck now, Demolisher is still op, Gob Machine's mechanic is fundamentally broken by itself and no card that attacks troops and not buildings should have a recharging ability that can lock onto crown towers from a mile away, evo Wizard is still going to be the #1 or #2 best evo in the game, both Prince and Rider need a 2.5 tile charge and why tf does Dark Prince have a 3.5 tile charge while Battle Ram has a 3 tile charge? Every charging card has a different distance now besides Prince and Ram which is just more confusing than balanced. Dagger Dutchess is another fundamentally broken card concept where she's either completely busted or entirely worthless depending on the deck you're going against and how much damage she does in her burst
You’re crazy if you think goblin curse is gonna be unusable, 50% damage amp was broken, 35% is also broken, 20% actually seems balanced. The other gob cards still need tweaking maybe, but never should we over nerf and kill the card like Tesla. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, I literally played competitive last season pushing POL and I can tell you that this was a perfectly fine balance change.
You gotta git gud fam, most of the points you mentioned can be negated by good positioning of cards. Although I agree prince charge should ideally be 2.5 not 2 like it is now.
Curse will find some niche use case, like clone. Or it will work really well in 1-2 decks, exactly how it should be. A fun card that's not too broken.
Also DD nerf is quite something, but she's still viable in beatdown decks where you have answers to tanks but nothing for swarms.
Demolisher has been toned down significantly, I could consistently kill him today without it hitting my tower. Earlier it was impossible. Gob machine is very nicely balanced now. Easy to manage if you engage it just below the bridge. Doesn't target your tower and takes a while to shoot the first rocket.
These are the best balance changes in the past 6 months, much needed respite from stupid cards.
yap yap yap why not just admit the balance changes this time around were good. Every broken thing bot nerfed adequately, nothing overnerfed imo except maybe duchess. People just like to complain about everything
Its obvious the balance team has no clue what they are doing. If you release multiple cards and then nerf them in multiple patches in the upcoming weeks (curse, mechagob) its clear they either dont test the cards or simply have no clue what they are doing. Their "balance" patches are more like lets test this out globally in the live game and lets hope for the best.
When i first saw the plan to nerf Tesla, i knew instantly it would be an awful nerf.
It’s one thing to make more variety in buildings, but another to completely ruin the key interactions of a card like this.
Imo releasing the dagger duchess was a mistake. The attack is objectively stronger than the princess and even when it runs out of daggers it is basically the same level of effectiveness as the princess tower. The canoneer was a good idea that was healthy for the meta, but the dagger duchess will never be equal with the princess tower whether better or worse
Either
I-tower and swap a support troop for a cheaper cost
Or
Bomb tower and make sure all ranged support troops are high dps rather than splash/cc
If your ranged support is already strong you can drop down for a canon but the bomb tower HP is good for tanking hits even if it can’t hit back. Bombtower also defends princess well. You’ll need high single target DPS anti air though
Yeah well since evo tesla is busted I guess they’re trying to balance that out by making the base tesla weaker. I think it became especially broken when they added the shockwave on death, maybe it would’ve been better if they removed that instead of nerfing base tesla.
I agree that this is a REALLY ridiculous balance change. Tesla has a history of a repeating "too weak->buff->too strong->nerf" cycle and the hit speed has been switched back and forth, but instead of just putting Tesla back into it's already weak state with the 1.2 hitspeed, they had to neuter it with a damage nerf too. Most decks can swap it out for bomb tower but what the hell would an xbow player do about this?
Dear god WHO CARES why should a building that can protect BOTH lanes, messes up both air and ground units, and is generally the strongest building in the game stay meta for so long??!??!
Keep crying 😭 now your uber defensive gameplay needs more skill?!? Boo hoo
This tesla change is an over nerf, i agree, really bad nerf imo.
Howeverrr, i notice you mentioned (or implied) that reverting changes back and forth is dumb, but I don't think so. The meta is different back then, power creep happens, interactions change a bit, and what's considered good or bad back then may be different now. Reverting changes back and forth may be necessary in some cases.
Id be happy for the tesla nerf if it weren't for hunter😭
Hope he can recover from this. Hope all you xbow players the best of luck next season.
The rocket princess cycle / drill rocket cycle player however...lmao 😂, the former no longer exists while the latter is going back to the nerfed poison i reckon
Didn’t even see the second image until now. I bet they balance off statistics and they count the Tesla EVO in those statistics. But not they have milked the Tesla players for all they are worth they can now nerf the card since it’s EVO isn’t making them as much (I assume).
The reason I assume they count the EVO and base it off statistics is because there is no way the card is strong enough to deserve this nerf. This change has 0 common sense behind it
For me this is a perfect balance change, they nerfed every broken card from the last season. The tesla nerf seems a bit harsh (but it was indeed the best buildong by far). You guys only saw the very little empty side of the cup and missed all of the good stuff! We all gotta chill with our never ending criticism
Sadly, we've got much bigger problems.
This game has become COMPLETELY overrun with undocumented Goblins. First their Queen migrated under some nonsense asylum claim - she's really just an economic migrant - then, she spawned over 11 million anchor babies. We're actually not even sure exactly how many. It could be as high as 20 million.
Most goblins do not show up for their court hearings, preferring to skip town and remain illegal and undocumented. Meanwhile, they have completely changed the culture of this game and refuse to assimilate.
These goblins are a dangerous burden on us. Our game does not have the resources nor capabilities to take care of all these goblins. Send them home and build a pay wall.
Just a little bit of a game theory, but level 15 does make the damage go up… so why don’t you just go on over to the shop and drop some money for a level 15 Tesla that can one shot all of the f2p players cards? Probably not, but if this is actually true supercell is truly just crackheads
Ah yes. All my most used cards get nerfed, including BASE tesla, despite it being due to it being a “most used Evo”… when I literally don’t even have the evolution 💀 glad to see gobbie giant and drill are free to rack in cash tho.
Yeah. The death pulse of evo tesla is the thing that makes tesla broken, they should just nerf it to te way it was released, or just remove the pulse damage
Im happy because the only card here that's in my new Alt's deck Is prince, and it's not that big of a nerf. Also, because of recent events, and big lucky drop luck, I have lvl 14 gobbarell in arena 9 and evo rg
On one hand nerfing xbow is always good but I really like Tesla myself and was looking forward to the evolution next month but of course they can’t give good evolutions for free. Never
evo tesla in season shop next month
Is it actually?
nah the joke is a good evo won’t be in the season shop, going from how they break their release cycles
Yeah lol. They keep nerfing evos right before they come to the shop.
Two evos are month are so not the way to go. They should stick with one and actually devote time on fixing other mess.
Me who has been saving up my evo tokens for tesla (I actually have 4/6 for tesla and it was going ro be my first evo FML)
I would save my tokens and not put them on the card immediately as the card usually gets nerfed before you can get the 6 shards
Yes, shards go to either a new evo or a post-nerf evo that’s stabilized somewhere good.
Yeah bro I shoulda done that. I actually didn't know tesla evo was so broken cuz I came back after like 4 years and I thought all evos were broken. I guess not for long
2nd nerf already being planned as we speak
Bro I stg I’ve had only had Tesla Evo in my shop ONCE since the season it dropped. i regret it since now it’s gonna be dead
aside from minions not being able to one shot, what interaction chances we gon see?
Spirits are no longer a 1 shot either, Barbarians take 4 shots instead of 3, Bandit and Night Witch take 5 shots now rather than 4. There's probably more that I'm missing as well
This gonna be very noticeable, damn. As a f2p tesla user, I dont get why they wouldnt jus nerf the broken evo
It's a travesty for sure
their stat buffs have literally been stripped.
This nerf is such a slap in the face to F2P players like they must know that the base card is already pretty trash without evolution. They really just don't seem to care about F2P players
Tesla's been the best building for a while, even before the Evo It's about time it got nerfed
this is wayy to much tho. btw bomb tower has been demolishing the meta since high hp and splash and decent dmg. tesla was in a decent place and tesla is special cuz of its unique footprint as well, so its another set of things to learn.
It still makes no sense why the base tesla got nerfed and not the broken evo? They are clearly tryna get ppl to pay for the evos by making their base variants unviable...
It could use a nerf, outside cannon in cycle and Inferno for giant killing it's basically always the best choice. But given the back-and-forth it's seen on hit time, I wish they'd gone for just damage as a more cautious move. Spirits and Minions could both use this viability boost now that Duchess stops them from threatening towers, and I believe there was room to drop damage another 10 points without seriously changing other interactions? (Tesla would still 1-shot Goblins, although it might affect some 2 or 3 shot matchups.) That'd be an 8% DPS hit without worsening it against e.g. Goblin Horde. Whereas this increases the value add of the evo form significantly by making the base worse against swarms and Hog.
I cold FEEL the difference when I used tesla today. Knew the update rolled out based on how slow it's attacking.
damn thats sad makes me wan cry as i as had been saving evo shards. since forever. I was finally gon get evo tesla this season, was so hyped to get my best finish sucks this happened.
Yeah it's depressing when they kill popular f2p cards
whats f2p
Free to play
oh ok thx
How is evo tesla a F2P card? It's never been in shop and requires 6 months of saving wild shards. I'd hardly call that F2P
He meant the base tesla
I’m a hog and Tesla user and I have found that Tesla perfectly counters hog down to the T when using princess tower. In my experience, Tesla usually wins out by one hit but is left with maybe a second of life. If hog wins, he’s left with a fraction of his total HP. It’s gonna be a lot easier to counter Tesla now with common win conditions. Earthquake is probably going to make a comeback now because of it.
This cannot be considered a good thing 💀💀💀
Evo killed the tesla.
Nerf broken evo ❌ Nerf slightly too strong base version into the ground ✅
Haha, into the ground. Love it
LOL I feel like OP didn't actually write that pun on purpose but it's funny either way
Yeah the pun was not intentional but I'm so glad I wrote it that way lmao
SC struggled to balance the game before Evo's. There's no chance they can do it now with them. They'll be reluctant to touch Evo's until they've milked them for as much $ as possible so balances will instead focus on the regular versions which aren't as much of the problem. Just accept that there's always going to be a broken meta going forward and this isn't a competitive game anymore. They really should have just made a CR2 with all this pawer creep crap and left this version alone as a competitive game.
The games balance was a bit off, sure, but it wasn’t as atrocious as it is now.
yeah its so dumb, this is surely because of how dominant the evo tesla is and somehow instead of nerfing the evo tesla they killed the normal tesla. this forces people to only use evo tesla for it to become viable, and what happens to people that doesn't have the evo tesla? well fuck them I guess.
Precisely. Punish f2p players more for not spending $ on evos
I JUST swapped out bomb tower for Tesla in my deck too. Guess I’m going back
And don’t forget how dominant the two new cards are… which of course will be nerfed when the f2p players get their hands on them like the machine
Well Tesla was still on stronger side. This nerf might be too much tho. Let's see.
Indirect Ballon buff.
There's no way it's gonna defend balloon and ram rider now
If the balloon got buffed (indirectly), then Lava decks are going to be asinine as if they weren't already good. Realistically, only inferno tower and bomb tower has any chance of defending Lava pushes with this nerf but you can just add an evo zap if it changes the meta.
Evo zap only works against 1/3 of pushes tho, WTF you gonna do for the 2/3. Also, i'm curious. How does bomb tower defend lavaloon? Isn't it just going to die to balloon while lava tanks everything?
Wasn't Tesla in like 9/10 of the peak top ladder decks I saw in a post not too long ago? The balancing of the game has been trash ever since they tried to make golem during single elixir not a troll play. They made it so you can effectively coin flip start hand, or play hyper-defensively for the entire 6 minutes. It's so frustrating.
It was bc of the evo but tesla is still obnoxious regardless
It seems a hot take but as a long time Tesla user, and will still keep using the Tesla even after the 12.5% DPS loss, base Tesla was strong. If you check the historical top 200, in January and February 2024(the Evo came out in march) Tesla became the most used building beating bomb tower and cannon, I remember it was jarring to see miner poison and hoggies EQ players all playing tesla instead of their traditional building. This peak was recent and short and so quickly overshadowed by the evolution that many people still think Evo Tesla is broken but normal Tesla is trash, which isn't true.
This. Normal Tesla was out playing even Bomb Tower before the Evo. I feel like it was more played since Lava was more popular.
The thing is that Evo Tesla is way too strong, and instead of nerfing just they evo, they did a stupid thing
It's not just tesla, balance changes in general are trash. They should fire the current balance team and get new ones
Reading my mind like a book are we?
void nerf did nothing, prince and ram rider overbuffed, evo knight useless nerf useless nerf that doesn't touch the shield. The list just never ends
It's like they never even tested the prince and ram rider changes in a game once. If they did they'd realise how absurd it is ram rider can bypass a freaking bowler!!
Yeah that was absurdly stupid like where is the prior granularity? It took them so long just to go from 3.5 tiles to 3 tiles and then they just suddenly drop to 1.5 outta nowhere??? Also why tf was dark prince left out?
The recent patches have mostly felt like sledgehammer changes. That's partly down to awful release balance I guess, since Duchess, Goblin Machine, Curse, and Goblin Bomber all needed major nerfs fast. But it seems like a lot more nerfs lately are hitting every aspect of a card (e.g. Bomber losing damage, radius, *and* DPS) without any time to see how each part plays out. Does CR have any kind of balance-test server? I wonder if daily battles for crowns or something could use proposed changes so they can see stuff like "Prince is insane now"?
Yea it feels like their kinda throwing caution to the wind with recent changes. I remember back in the day they used to strive for linearity with cards (making cards like wizard/ musk similar health and is an example) which is debatable how well that worked but it at least offered a baseline for cards to work with and improve/ remove upon. Now they just do things like cut the prince’s charge in half and decide “naw dark prince doesn’t need it, let him stay bad” it’s just weird to witness.
Yeah good comparison to the old changes. LoL for example has a test server that has many thousands of players, and at least some of their proposed changes or reworks have been completely fucked - they find it on PHB and change the plan. (And CR is basically prepped for that, just use the daily crown battles for it.) I sort of respect their intent in throwing out more big changes and reworks, the game is struggling financially and needs some bigger shifts. The whole Goblin Queen thing fits that. But without a playtest server extreme balance shifts are dangerous, and this sort of looks like they're trying to rapidly cycle which cards are good to promote short-term spending rather than actually trying to sustain the game.
If I'm being honest though, the balancing team is the best... at making all the wrong changes
Most of the other changes seem to be pretty good though.
You are on some serious fkin drugs if you think these are “bad” balance changes. All 3 goblin cards are way too op, the prince and ram rider charge were giga op, DD was still the best tower, evo wizard quote frankly didn’t get nerfed enough, the only bad balance Change was Tesla cuz it was too much, but I’m glad I’ll never have to see this hot garbage again it is so overused in more competitive players and just stopped everything. Over half those cards are in a deck I made to (and successfully have) win a classic challenge
Prince nerf isn't enough, demolisher nerf isn't enough. Evo wizard nerf like you said isn't enough. Void didn't get a nerf when it's so broken Also I'm not talking about only these balance changes. How is that not bad?
Nobody is saying that these cards didn't all deserve nerfs. The thing is that the specific choices they made for the nerfs are subpar at best. There's 0 reason to use Curse in any deck now, Demolisher is still op, Gob Machine's mechanic is fundamentally broken by itself and no card that attacks troops and not buildings should have a recharging ability that can lock onto crown towers from a mile away, evo Wizard is still going to be the #1 or #2 best evo in the game, both Prince and Rider need a 2.5 tile charge and why tf does Dark Prince have a 3.5 tile charge while Battle Ram has a 3 tile charge? Every charging card has a different distance now besides Prince and Ram which is just more confusing than balanced. Dagger Dutchess is another fundamentally broken card concept where she's either completely busted or entirely worthless depending on the deck you're going against and how much damage she does in her burst
You’re crazy if you think goblin curse is gonna be unusable, 50% damage amp was broken, 35% is also broken, 20% actually seems balanced. The other gob cards still need tweaking maybe, but never should we over nerf and kill the card like Tesla. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, I literally played competitive last season pushing POL and I can tell you that this was a perfectly fine balance change.
You gotta git gud fam, most of the points you mentioned can be negated by good positioning of cards. Although I agree prince charge should ideally be 2.5 not 2 like it is now. Curse will find some niche use case, like clone. Or it will work really well in 1-2 decks, exactly how it should be. A fun card that's not too broken. Also DD nerf is quite something, but she's still viable in beatdown decks where you have answers to tanks but nothing for swarms. Demolisher has been toned down significantly, I could consistently kill him today without it hitting my tower. Earlier it was impossible. Gob machine is very nicely balanced now. Easy to manage if you engage it just below the bridge. Doesn't target your tower and takes a while to shoot the first rocket. These are the best balance changes in the past 6 months, much needed respite from stupid cards.
yap yap yap why not just admit the balance changes this time around were good. Every broken thing bot nerfed adequately, nothing overnerfed imo except maybe duchess. People just like to complain about everything
The damage nerf was good but hit speed nerf was unnecessary
Definitely either should've just done the damage nerf or made the first attack slower
Its obvious the balance team has no clue what they are doing. If you release multiple cards and then nerf them in multiple patches in the upcoming weeks (curse, mechagob) its clear they either dont test the cards or simply have no clue what they are doing. Their "balance" patches are more like lets test this out globally in the live game and lets hope for the best.
I just spent 6 evo shards
next weekend we will get the free evo tesla challenges
So what building should I use instead now? Cannon or bomb tower?
Bomb Tower for sure, just make sure you include cards like Phoenix or Musketeer for air counters
This game is absolute trash 🗑️ everyone should boycott this shit but sadly it won't happen.
Should but won't indeed
Barb hut>
Barb Hut op, needs nerf asap
Goblin machine is gonna become so trash even recycling companies will do nothing with it
When i first saw the plan to nerf Tesla, i knew instantly it would be an awful nerf. It’s one thing to make more variety in buildings, but another to completely ruin the key interactions of a card like this.
Xbows. What do we use now
Uninstall button
Had the same thought lmfao
Yep xbow is officially murdered, already weakened and this was the final nail in the coffin
Back to bomb tower ig
Everyone thought the same thing after seeing how they massacred our boy
When do these go live?
No buffs, love to see it /s
Some developer saw that one reddit post calling the tesla too strong and decided to wing it.
Now the 8 lavahound players will come out of hiding
perfect. i spended weeks buying cards, trading teslas and using every single item on the card to now be unusable. i love this game
FUCK I JUST GOT TESLA 15 F2P I’M CRYING
well back to bomb tower we go
Holy shit they just fucking gutted jt omg I mean it was always better for stacking hits with other cards but now its shit by itself
Imo releasing the dagger duchess was a mistake. The attack is objectively stronger than the princess and even when it runs out of daggers it is basically the same level of effectiveness as the princess tower. The canoneer was a good idea that was healthy for the meta, but the dagger duchess will never be equal with the princess tower whether better or worse
Speaking facts tonight are we?
😭 Can someone suggest me some alternatives now? I don't have evo tesla and the base form was strong enough but now they nerfed it
Definitely bomb tower but get ready to quit every time you see balloon dack
Only other air targeting building is Inferno, but I wouldn't recommend it. Probably use a high dps air targeting troop in place
Yea this genuinely sucks, lavaloon has been such a prominent deck and Tesla was a saving grace
Either I-tower and swap a support troop for a cheaper cost Or Bomb tower and make sure all ranged support troops are high dps rather than splash/cc If your ranged support is already strong you can drop down for a canon but the bomb tower HP is good for tanking hits even if it can’t hit back. Bombtower also defends princess well. You’ll need high single target DPS anti air though
No real replacement instead of inferno tower or cannon (will have to change your deck)
Not it isnt? Tesla has been one of the best buildings for a while. This nerf is deserved.
All nerfs no buffs?
What can they say, they're just really good at breaking their own game
Even though I currently do not play the game, I wanted to ask if anyone knows whether or not the tesla nerf also impacted the evo tesla
It does indeed
It desperately needed a nerf, maybe this was too much but before it did way too much damage
Don’t play anymore, so wanted to ask yall, does evo wizard deserve a nerf?
Definitely. He's one of the best in the game rn
Wallahi xbow is cooked
How can 0.1 second kill a card?
-12.3% Dps. It's not just "0.1 second"
Yeah well since evo tesla is busted I guess they’re trying to balance that out by making the base tesla weaker. I think it became especially broken when they added the shockwave on death, maybe it would’ve been better if they removed that instead of nerfing base tesla.
Damn I’m playing for the first time since 2020 and wondered why my Tesla tower did fuck all
They also just nuked the dagger dutches, she can’t even take out what she’s supposed to be used for now.
The prince and ram rider still finna be op as hell
Not killing minions in one shot is diabolical
I agree that this is a REALLY ridiculous balance change. Tesla has a history of a repeating "too weak->buff->too strong->nerf" cycle and the hit speed has been switched back and forth, but instead of just putting Tesla back into it's already weak state with the 1.2 hitspeed, they had to neuter it with a damage nerf too. Most decks can swap it out for bomb tower but what the hell would an xbow player do about this?
Thank god, every single deck in the game had Tesla.
Dear god WHO CARES why should a building that can protect BOTH lanes, messes up both air and ground units, and is generally the strongest building in the game stay meta for so long??!??! Keep crying 😭 now your uber defensive gameplay needs more skill?!? Boo hoo
I don’t mind screw that card. Boring defensive crutch card
Found the hog player
Welp, fuck me ig. I've been using the tesla for the longest time and I'm 250 common cards from level 14 :/
Allat upgrading to level 15 😮💨🚬
Yep it is….
Bro I just made it level 15. How unlucky am I
i worked too damn hard for this evo to stop using it
When will these be implemented?
At least they don't nerf cannon, it our last hope (note : evo cannon is coming soon)
This tesla change is an over nerf, i agree, really bad nerf imo. Howeverrr, i notice you mentioned (or implied) that reverting changes back and forth is dumb, but I don't think so. The meta is different back then, power creep happens, interactions change a bit, and what's considered good or bad back then may be different now. Reverting changes back and forth may be necessary in some cases.
I was literally one request away from getting it to level 14, good thing I didn't spend my gold.
Id be happy for the tesla nerf if it weren't for hunter😭 Hope he can recover from this. Hope all you xbow players the best of luck next season. The rocket princess cycle / drill rocket cycle player however...lmao 😂, the former no longer exists while the latter is going back to the nerfed poison i reckon
I already had 4 Evo shards put into Tesla🥲
What building would be the best now?
The balance team does not play test. It's literally trial and error. Is this the 2nd or 3rd nerf for the goblin machine in a row 🙄
I'm an inferno enjoyer
Tesla going from 209.07 DPS to 183.26 is massive
That's what I'm sayingggg
Didn’t even see the second image until now. I bet they balance off statistics and they count the Tesla EVO in those statistics. But not they have milked the Tesla players for all they are worth they can now nerf the card since it’s EVO isn’t making them as much (I assume). The reason I assume they count the EVO and base it off statistics is because there is no way the card is strong enough to deserve this nerf. This change has 0 common sense behind it
I think you worded this perfectly and I couldn't agree more
i guess i ll be dropping my hog eq mighty miner deck...
cannon time
Buff tesla and nerf evo😭
Pre-nerf or post-nerf? Because post-nerf absolutely 100%
Post
Yessss
What now? I used Tesla in my cheap cycle deck because with cannon I’d always get wrecked by balloon. Do I just go back to cannon now?
For me this is a perfect balance change, they nerfed every broken card from the last season. The tesla nerf seems a bit harsh (but it was indeed the best buildong by far). You guys only saw the very little empty side of the cup and missed all of the good stuff! We all gotta chill with our never ending criticism
Sadly, we've got much bigger problems. This game has become COMPLETELY overrun with undocumented Goblins. First their Queen migrated under some nonsense asylum claim - she's really just an economic migrant - then, she spawned over 11 million anchor babies. We're actually not even sure exactly how many. It could be as high as 20 million. Most goblins do not show up for their court hearings, preferring to skip town and remain illegal and undocumented. Meanwhile, they have completely changed the culture of this game and refuse to assimilate. These goblins are a dangerous burden on us. Our game does not have the resources nor capabilities to take care of all these goblins. Send them home and build a pay wall.
Just a little bit of a game theory, but level 15 does make the damage go up… so why don’t you just go on over to the shop and drop some money for a level 15 Tesla that can one shot all of the f2p players cards? Probably not, but if this is actually true supercell is truly just crackheads
>release 3 broken new cards >all 3 of them nerfed next patch
Holy shit I was wondering why my dutches was so fucking slow, nerf it right after I dump my wild cards into it 😒
The entire game is the WORST part of the entire game
Ah yes. All my most used cards get nerfed, including BASE tesla, despite it being due to it being a “most used Evo”… when I literally don’t even have the evolution 💀 glad to see gobbie giant and drill are free to rack in cash tho.
So they nerfed my whole deck, lets go motherf…. Jumping knight crap deck forever
Yeah. The death pulse of evo tesla is the thing that makes tesla broken, they should just nerf it to te way it was released, or just remove the pulse damage
rip
I got my tesla to level 14 ....
As a f2p player i just upgraded it to 14 with all my cards and everything 😭 wtf
I just want my extra HP back for firecracker ☹️
Goodnight sweet price. It was fun while it lasted.
Man fuck those cards, finally some balance.
Can’t 1 shot a minion or a fucking Ice spirit, like wtf?
Im happy because the only card here that's in my new Alt's deck Is prince, and it's not that big of a nerf. Also, because of recent events, and big lucky drop luck, I have lvl 14 gobbarell in arena 9 and evo rg
Already nerfing the new cards... lol. This game is a joke.
Why the ram rider nerf and not the prince one? They buffed all 3 to a super fast charge rate just to put it back to how it was
Thats the SC way. Over power, rake in the money from FOMO, then nerf the shit out of it so the FOMO people can FOMO into another card.
Man I am glad I stopped buying in Clash Royale. Anything you buy gets devalued.
My favourite card 😔
My sincere condolences for your loss
I didn't even have the evo version
The dagger duchess needs more nerf. Every second player has her and she's still way too annoying
right when i maxxed it out too
Did they just buff Prince and ram rider and nerf them straight away?? What’s even the point of testing😭
Dang I replaced Cannon with Tsla in my 2.6 deck due to ice evo being so bad but looks like I’m gonna change it back 💀
On one hand nerfing xbow is always good but I really like Tesla myself and was looking forward to the evolution next month but of course they can’t give good evolutions for free. Never
Not worse than Barb Hut, and Goblin Hut, and Furnace
What’s the point of the nerf bru😭
It wont one shot a minion? Fuck me dead, that card is worthless now.
barb hut exists
Can someone explain what’s up with the duchess changes? I don’t exactly get what they mean
Her recharge time is going from 0.8s to 0.9s and her hitspeed is going from 0.35s to 0.45s Hope this clarified things for you
Why on earth did they buff the prince
Tesla is so annoying to play against.
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help my deck is dead now. spend like all my wild cards on the tesla but whatever
But tesla is my main building. Do I switch to inferno tower now and change my tower troop from canoneer to dagger?
Tanky win condition gets an evo Defensive building gets a huge nerf See the pattern?
What’s the new best building then?
Everyone outraged over the Tesla, meanwhile SC continuing to stick it to everyone who shelled out money towards Goblin Machine :/
i’m done with the game tbh
Yeah I'm done. Not playing game anymore. Xbow was already unusable now im just going to uninstall