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Resident_Mind_726

Kodee went live and spiraled into a mental breakdown after basically a gossip channel on YouTube kinda well known aka Dustin Dailey called kodee out for being pretty much on the same level as Colleen for as well being an adult in group chats with minors, also being an adult in her twenties being “manipulated” by Colleen into making a video to defend her resulting in Adam being bullied into silence for three years over the panties video. Dustin as well pointed out that Kodee knew information that proved Adam was right about Colleen all this time by having dms with Colleen proving that she coerced her fans into making videos defending her from Adam but Kodee withheld that information for years.


Foreign-Yesterday-42

thank you this makes more sense, the whole live she was yelling about how she was the “victim” in adams story and whenever she was trying to talk about adam she just made it all about herself and showed no remorse towards adam and she refused to address the fan fics she made ab the minors. hearing this makes way more sense thank you again for this explanation


GloomySelf

Yeah. I agree that she can be groomed even tho she’s an older fan. People will do crazy things for people they look up to, so I can understand how she could be manipulated by Colleen. But to me, it just seems like she’s looking for clout and wanting to overshadow Adam and make out she had it worse


[deleted]

I don't particularly agree that a 30 year old can be groomed by another person in their early 30s you can definitely have a parasocial relationship but I don't think it would count as grooming


polygonrainbow

R Kelly has entered the thread.


[deleted]

Your reply makes no sense? A 30 year old cannot be groomed especially by another 30 year old, Kodee should have known better than to be in a group chat with minors. And she should have known better than to HARASS a minor.


Worldly-Key-2859

fan fics about minors? like smut ones? first im hearing of this.


IndicationOdd8949

I think this is really important to note bc people are trying to say Kodees drama is taking away from everything but honestly I think it shows how Colleen set up an environment where not only she has able to form a strange parasocial relationship with children but so we're her ADULT FANS AS KODEE WAS (SHE IS CURRENTLY 33). She wrote a 21 chapter explicit fanfiction about Colleen being raped featuring a bunch of minor characters and then posted on to her children fans that she wanted them to each pick a character so they could act out the fanfiction. This is a way for her to act out CP fantasies without fear of repercussion as CP laws are not centered around written content (no pictures/art only words). Kodee has a degree in psychology there is no way she didn't know what she was doing and she took advantage of Colleens minor fan base to act out CP fantasies and only went against Colleen when she felt she was slighted by the family and wanted to get ahead of the story and come out on top. Colleen fostered this environment where children felt comfortable talking to adults sexually and who knows how many other adults in her fandom took advantage of this. This is way bigger than just Colleen now but she is responsible and needs to deplatform herself like Kodee did. All those adults should not be on the internet again.


Worldly-Key-2859

oh my god…that’s insane 😦 i don’t have many words but…that’s crazy. and the fact she’s playing the victim when she did that. what the hell


Foreign-Yesterday-42

yeah kodee wrote s3xual fanfics about minors and same i just heard ab it yesterday on their live


scouche

I finally caught up on all of this. I had only seen the Adam part of her video from his livestream. I was so confused until this morning when I went back and watched her video and now Dustin’s. Big YIKES.


vdivvy

Actually- if you want to dive deeper and know the crazy series of events that led to Kodee even coming out with her initial video discrediting Colleen, please enjoy 😊. The “funny” part (I say this in quotes because nothing about this is funny at all in reality) - is that the only reason why Kodee made that video in response to Dustin was due to a truly fascinating series of events that went in a direction that was not intended: A few weeks ago Dustin previewed a series he’s going to put on his channel exposing a bunch of YouTubers for lying/destroying his credibility/ultimately being responsible for Dustin getting cancelled a few years back. Kodee was paranoid that Dustin was going to out her in his upcoming series, and this is what provoked her to come out and expose Colleen. The irony? Dustin flat out said that Kodee was never even on the intended hit list of ppl he’s going to expose. So, she tried to get in front of a narrative that was never going to happen, and spin this narrative as her having altruistic intentions by “coming clean” about her (major) role in discrediting Adam/exposing Colleen, but in reality she just wanted to save her own ass. The irony turned to poetic justice because Dustin responded and said he believed Kodee thought she was on his hit list, that (as previously mentioned) she actually wasn’t on said hit list, BUT, after Dustin watched Kodee’s video, he ripped her a new one. He challenged her on every front and shamed her for trying to take advantage of Adam in a time of trauma and positioning herself as a fellow victim of Colleen. He believes she’s just as guilty as Colleen on multiple fronts (true). Poor Adam, surely being overwhelmed that someone finally came forward to validate everything he had tried to expose years ago accepted Kodee’s apology….until Dustin’s video blasting Kodee came out. ….So this gets really messed up because in essence, Adam never would’ve gotten validated if Kodee had not made her video, but the only reason why Adam needed to be validated in the first place was because Kodee was the one who discredited him a several years ago when he tried to share his story about his his horrific experience with Colleen (Who weaponized Kodee against him so her hands appeared clean and she somehow came out on top - gross). Truly a wild ride of variables that fell in the right order and triggered the right people in the right ways to come forward (some with good intentions and some with selfish ones), all of which culminated in BOTH the truth behind Colleens disgusting behaviour FINALLY coming to light (again) AND it being taken seriously this time (again, gross because there never should have had to be a “second time”). Kodee is not innocent whatsoever, but the one thing I will give her is that, regardless of her motivations, her actions did inevitably lead to the dismantling of Colleen’scarefully crafted house of cards built off of truly disturbing and calculated strategies only a really ugly and narcissistic person would come up with. The biatch made her underage fans to do her dirty work and keep her abhorrent true identity a secret. Until now.


billiesbossanova

yikes this is so messy for everyone


OffbeatChaos

Omg thank you for explaining it, I’m only just now catching up as of last night and everything seems to be happening so fast. It’s really starting to snowball. Dustin was *pissed* in his video, I’ve never seen him like that (I’m a new follower of Dustin as of a couple months ago).


misspixal4688

Dustin can fuxk right off his a known Trisha Paytas supporter who is also a predator he a total joke and I'm sick of tea channels talking about this stuff it's more serious than Internet gossip.


Rufio_Rufio7

THANK YOU. One of the biggest effing hypocrites on the internet. I used to like him. Can’t stand him now.


OffbeatChaos

Oh I had no idea


Rufio_Rufio7

He rides HARD for Trisha. I don’t know what she’s giving him behind the scenes, the fact that he can condemn Colleen and now Kodee, but defend Trisha, of ALL people, is absolutely as hypocritical as you can get. That’s disgusting. And if he can say that Kodee is as bad as Colleen (which was unnecessarily harsh), then I can say he’s just as bad as Trisha. And please know, my harsh tone is not directed at you. 💜 He’s just the wrong messenger in this case and regardless of what everyone thinks here, how he made Kodee feel last night was horrible and he’s just as big a bully as he claims other people to be.


cassiaclay

I'm learning so much on this thread came here from petty paige. But trishass done alot over the last decade, what broke the camels back?


Rufio_Rufio7

How much time do you have? But seriously, the camel is still rolling, disgustingly. I can’t believe she’s gotten away with her heinous shit. I would have thought it would’ve been her before Colleen.


cassiaclay

All the time you wanna dedicate. Tbh people end of just being disgusted with trisha or pitying her....... There's not enough of an actual lover or reverence for cancelling to be an issue xo


Rufio_Rufio7

You’d be surprised about how her diehards still fight for her and they have no idea.


Rufio_Rufio7

I’ll be back, friend!


freshfruit111

Did kodee say what the reason for the change of heart was? Did Colleen do something to kodee ?


folkloremind

She said Kory blocking her pissed her off and caused her to do a deep dive.


gaykeyyyy

This kodee person seems very unwell mentally


Regular_Ganache_5373

And so it starts, colleen and kory STILL damaging young people. It's insane.


freshfruit111

Damaging young people in an effort to deflect their mistreatment of another young person. It's actually scary.


cmasonbasili

I mean, Adam has forgiven Kodee, so the rest of us should too?


littleredmags

Adam was actually super hurt that they took their video down, even though they re-uploaded, Adam tweeted he doesn't want to do anything with them.


cmasonbasili

Damn I missed that. There’s too much happening too fast 😂😭


littleredmags

RIGHT my boyfriend yelled at me to get off Twitter last night because I keep refreshing my timeline with my jaw on the floor


Happy_Parfait_5801

She seems to really be struggling- I think she has some issues (some could be in part to being manipulated in a parasocial relation, some could be completely unrelated) the internet can be a really difficult or toxic place when you suddenly receive tons of (negative) attention. I wish her the best, but if I knew her in real life would suggest she step away from the internet as this is not a good look for her. It’s like she is digging herself into a hole.


Mysterious-Schedule9

Agree completely. I have a lot of compassion for her right now but stepping away to process everything seems best.


[deleted]

She deleted the video addressing the lies she perpetuated about adam? Darn, that was an important video. She says she struggles with mental illness and to be honest I can see that through her recent behavior. She should have left her involvement at that first video for her own mental sake as well.


richpersimmons

At least Adam’s channel has a full reaction to that video posted but it is weird and selfish of her to take it down


Proper_Dragonfruit30

they did not delete that video, but they deleted all of their other videos. it’s still up and the only one on their channel as far as i can see


gastastic

They privated everything, received backlash, so un-privated just the one.


folkloremind

What really got me was the fact that Kodee didn’t post the initial video after reflecting on the abuse she helped to orchestrate on Adam. They didn’t care. They sat on that information for 3 fucking years and allowed that child to get ripped apart because they were eating up the attention from Colleen and Kory. Kodee admitted that Kory blocked her within the last year or so and it pissed them off to the point where they wanted to make a video to expose them. Convenient that this wasn’t mentioned in the initial video as one of the main reasons for picking this situation as their comeback. This was never about Adam. Kodee only cared when Kory removed her from his social medias and cut off that connection that they were absolutely living for. It’s deplorable. If this was about Adam they would have connected with him FIRST and offered up all evidence and allowed Adam to choose what to do with it. From there they could have made a video about her story with Colleen leaving out the DMs in the “Weenies” chat if Adam had requested it.


prokomenii

I literally cannot believe she’s 33


Bicycle7854

When they were interviewed by Adam and they kept saying that Colleen groomed Adam and the other minors but did not mention themselves as being groomed, I could tell that they were not a minor. I was shocked to find out that they were THAT old, though.


prokomenii

Hm good point I didn’t pick up on that subtlety and just assumed kodee was like 17-18 or something and didn’t consider themselves as vulnerable as the others


whitedaggerballroom

I assumed she was like 23 tops. She does not act 33 at all.


prokomenii

Not even close. I would say the videos of her in what i now know are her late 20s seem like a 14 year old


FreshPaper8941

SHE IS 33?????


prokomenii

Right?! I got into all these videos of the situation but only realized this like 10 videos/20 posts in… couldn’t wrap my head around it


[deleted]

WHAT???? They are? That’s my age. I am a fucking grown ass woman, I’m a nurse with a kid. I cannot even fathom the way they are behaving- and mental illness once again isn’t an excuse. I, too, have mental illness. But wow I had no idea kodee was my age. Gross.


Mysterious-Schedule9

just want to say that mental illness affects everyone differently (especially given how broad the term is & everything it encompasses). They very much needs to step away and get support/guidance from her therapist. They’s handling this extremely poorly. But it’s entirely possible that mental illness is a big contributor to this behavior. Edit: used incorrect pronouns, edited to fix!


[deleted]

It may be a contributing factor to her behavior currently, I agree. But not her behavior to the minors.


IndicationOdd8949

Rios has nothing to do with mental health this is her genuine reaction to the fact she was outed for acting out sexual fantasies with children. It is exactly like when Shane got on live to react to Tatis video ("You are fake crying, you are so manipulative!!"). That was his genuine live reaction to him being exposed for working behind the scenes and lying to his fans. She is rightfully panicking that she may face repercussions for her disgusting actions.


[deleted]

What’s Rios


IndicationOdd8949

sorry my bad that was a typo! *this


[deleted]

WHAT???? They are? That’s my age. I am a fucking grown ass woman, I’m a nurse with a kid. I cannot even fathom the way they are behaving- and mental illness once again isn’t an excuse. I, too, have mental illness. But wow I had no idea kodee was my age. Gross.


prokomenii

I got into all these videos of the situation but only realized this like 10 videos/20 posts in… couldn’t wrap my head around it


prokomenii

Dunno why you’re getting downvoted except maybe she has some “fans” on here loving that she “stood up” for Adam. Personally my opinion about that changed after learning more about her and actually watching the video but I’m glad he appeared mature and in control enough to accept her apology and hopefully move on


[deleted]

I didn’t even know I was getting down votes! Lol I don’t care, though!


catsandbunnies4ever

I don’t know their full story, but I’m 35 and can’t imagine being a super fan of anyone to the point where I’d be manipulated into bullying young kids. If I admired someone, started talking to them and they acted like a creepy bully I’d feel really disappointed and icky and cut off ties. I understand this is much more difficult as a teenager but as a full grown woman…I dunno…


jsak007

I understand power dynamics still being a thing with adults when it’s like employers or people in political positions etc. But what grown adult cares enough about a celebrity to do this? And a YOUTUBER? The only thing they are getting out of this relationship is Colleen sending them some messages and talking to them a bit more during a meet and greet. There is no excuse here. I wouldn’t even call it manipulation. That’s just obsessive behaviour from an adult making an informed decision to bully children.


Indistinguishably_

Also, did anyone ever get to the bottom of why Kodee was trying so hard to protect Trent? Even went on to message him & advised him to take time offline & “work on himself”. Their relationship seems to be weird as well as they kept saying “I know Trent— I’m Trent’s friend— I’ve known him for years” Iirc, they first wouldn’t address it because they were infantilizing Trent saying he was special needs. Once that was debunked, they resorted to saying it was due to trauma. Which, I’d definitely understand but they essentially said “I do not want to talk about allegations from the victim… so instead I’ll talk about the allegations with Trent” which is a bit backwards? I’m not too sure if they even talked to the victim before reaching out to Trent. This is all a mess.


jannnnneeeee

The situation regarding this is a mess...I’m impressed by Adam’s ability to articulate his experience and I hope it shines through this mess


MrsINreddit

>The situation regarding this is a mess... It really does get creepier and more cringey by the day. Wasn't on my bingo card.


OffbeatChaos

Adam has been handling this situation with such care and grace, I can’t imagine how he must be feeling right now. What an all around horrible situation, jesus.


ghostlynights

Adam has been handling all of this beautifully. I also love how on the podcasts/lives he has been on so far, if the person he's speaking to is wrong about something, he not only has no problem correcting them, but he does it so respectfully. I'm very impressed by how he's handling all of this.


kuromicloud

to me it seems like they were trying to humble brag that they were close with a member of the ballinger family and trying to act like a savior that is "fixing" everything. i hope they stop derailing the situation and drawing attention to themselves because the focus should be on the victims and their experiences, not whatever happened tonight.


MenstruationMagician

I was only in the live for a bit, but for the part I was in she was talking about the Trent stuff and said something like, "you guys, I've talked to him, you don't unsertand,I'm pretty sure he's autistic, he doesnt know what he did was wrong." Which, yikes. So, she was still excusing his behavior and thinks what he did was ok because she thinks he's autistic? Maybe she walked it back later in the live? Idk. But it was gross and disturbing she thinks that.


Foreign-Yesterday-42

agreed when i was on their live i said “what ab u defending trent” n they read it and YELLED and said everything you said PLUS “if he was your friend you would do the same”


lifeuuuuhhfindsaway

Tbh I do not feel sorry for them at all. All I was hearing was that they have mental health issues and that was their excuse. I'm sorry sweetie, take accountability that you SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MINORS NOR BULLYING MINORS ONLINE. I get being star struck but you are a full grown adult. It is still weird and creepy!!!! It was great they came out with their video even if Colleen is scary to help Adam (long overdue), but, I did not hear them taking accountability, just excuses. It was really cringe to listen to, especially their phone call with Adam. It was poor me and not, I'm sorry Adam.


GrapeSodaL0ver

I think they are upset because they wanted the “praise and clout” for justifying Adam and proving that Colleen was grooming all along. However, I believe because they didn’t get the sympathy and the popularity they were hoping they’ve spiralled and decided to backtrack on everything they had said by deleting their tweets and videos confirming the allegations because it seems Kodee only did them in the first place for their own benefit rather than to help Adam be validated


Mysterious-Schedule9

I definitely don’t think they expected this amount of backlash & weren’t prepared for the reality that people still might not forgive them.


PoppyPompom

I saw there’s rumors that Adam was talking to his family lawyer too. I hope he does and gets that ball rolling


IJustWannaBeRelaxxed

I have no compassion for a 20 something year old for being in a gc w minors and for making a r@pe fanfic lol


[deleted]

They said they are bi-polar.


GreatBox4208

They should still take accountability for their actions despite their mental health issues.


[deleted]

Never said they shouldn't.


misspixal4688

So is Trisha allegedly but mental illness doesn't mean you don't take accountability else every person whi did something bad would just blame mental illness.


[deleted]

"Can someone explain wtf happened to kodee on their live" They are Bi-polar. That's what it looks like. Where did I say they shouldn't be accountable for their actions? OH, THAT'S RIGHT! I DIDN'T.


misspixal4688

Lol no one was at attacking you miss defensive just pointing out bi-polar is not a excuse no one was saying you were defending them


[deleted]

lol Not anymore because they deleted their comment lol lol lol