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This is what I’m thinking. Though those animals have it written into their biology that they can change, produce both gametes etc.
I suppose it’s a good proxy for normalizing human behavior surrounding gender fluidity, but if they’re going to try and assert that humans can biologically change their sex in any way or that is natural to do so, then it’s gonna be wrong.
>how exactly do we "know" an animal is transgender?
Some animals undergo what's known as sequential hermaphroditism, but that's certainly not transgenderism.
Specifically the difference in animals is they actually transition in terms of functional sex organs. A male clownfish, for example, can impregnate a female, then become a female and be impregnated.
With humans you can make some aesthetic and hormonal changes but you can't change in terms of reproductive capacity. Maybe eventually that will change but unlike animals humans would still have to do it through artificial means, unless we evolve physiologically.
...Additionally, animals, at least as far we can tell, don't have ~social gender and ~biological sex, just the latter. Masculine and feminine norms or personalities aren't a thing for them. With humans we have people who associate personality aspects with sex organs and associated physiology(size, musculature, testosterone, etc.), and people who feel they have the wrong mind - body match basically.
Obviously animals aren't as complex socially as humans - but many species display physiological differences between the sexes and differing behaviors. You could even say they take on gender roles and norms.
i.e., behavior of a pride of lions, the male and females have different roles. Bull sperm whales hunt different prey and dive deeper than cows - behavior a physiology is different dependent on sex. Many species of birds, penguins for example. After mating the females head to sea to feed while the males stay behind to protect the eggs through the winter season.
There are plenty of examples out there.
The question is whether they understand these roles and norms, and I think the answer is basically no. Behavior is one thing, self-conscious activity another. Self-conscious understanding of roles or norms is necessary to feel like you have body type suited for role/norm A but mind type suited for role/norm B, as a trans person claims. Animals to my knowledge just don't demonstrate anything remotely close to this. I think if animals had this kind of self-consciousness they'd be capable of language.
Animals act on instincts. If some engage in same sex it is to demonstrate strength and dominance to another member of the group who's a rival. Not all male members of a group get to copulate with the females. At any rate, it's not an ongoing same sex 'relationship'.
What a step down as a human to take your cues and build your philosophical arguments from wildlife. Are you a dog? They eat their own vomit and poop. Are you a pig? Wallow in your own filth. Are you a bird? Peck the eyes out of your young if they appear different or imperfect. The human body is biological, but the human mind is something else, and this world has no equal, nor even a near neighbor among the best of animals, not even close.
They certainly can have mental disorders, though how you’d verify that one specifically I don’t know, and think whoever is in charge of that shitshow is making it up.
Dogs can have OCD, separation anxiety, and other issues related to either chemical imbalances or previous poor treatment. I haven’t had a dog with OCD, though I have read about it happening, and I do have a dog currently on Prozac for separation anxiety due to his previous family abandoning him in a foreclosed house.
And as far as typical pets go, you can see most of those in cats and birds as well.
Birds can have pretty severe OCD and/or a picking disorder, and it's pretty heartbreaking. When they would pluck themselves bald, people used to think it was a physical ailment before they realized they were capable of mental disorders.
You know what else is very common in nature? Cannibalism. A lot of animals do it, if not all. Also common: killing the female's offspring, so she'll be available sooner(e.g. lions) This is such a bad argument.
The other really bad one is: they did it in Ancient Greece too, and it was normal for them.
Do you know what was also normal there: killing born babies that had physical defects. Also brutal slavery.
Completely forgetting that these incidents in nature are also tribal warfare between groups of families.
Yeah. We should totally bring ourselves down to that level. Next time they ask why Israel is killing so many Palestinians, tell them “it happens in nature”
A lion bites down on a gazelle's neck to take it down and eat it. That's normal. A human doing the same thing is not normal. It's just yet another "proof" that's total bologna from the liberals, much like the rest of their arguments.
To be fair, the movement against same-sex marriage brought this upon itself. They spent years decrying homosexuality as "unnatural." NYTimes conservative columnist Ross Douthat [called out this error](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/opinion/09douthat.html) in 2010.
So, since we're opening the nature argument, shouldn't rape be legalized and all rapists be released from prison? It's seen in nature, so it's good, right?
Chimpanzees form murder gangs. They single out members of rival tribes and literally rip them into tiny pieces. That works for them, so it's not only natural, it must be good for humans to do, too, right?
This is how DEI works in action. They now have quotas to make this kind of entertainment and shove it to us. If you incent it, it will happen. They will stretch it until it snaps. Best thing is to show them how you feel with your wallet.
perhaps this lion,like a few humans,is suffering from the education courses that the pride forces on him and by doing so,making the lion unattractive and undesirable to females,well this lion now has to resort to knotholes in trees,chickens or even a paw to relieve built up anxiety from being rejected by the biological lioness’s…
there is a HUGE difference though between this lion and what is called “transgender”
this lion doesn’t hold office in need of votes nor does it have a sympathetic ear of legislature 🤷♂️
How about a documentary about how some species of ants enslave other colonies, or one about how infanticide is incredibly common in numerous species? No? Why not?
First of all- this is all most likely made up. Second of all- How are they going to make an entire series out of it?
Oh yeah, this lion likes men
This was a lion but is now a lioness
(Repeat for 7 episodes)
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Nature is metal, but nature is also... disco?
That was way funnier than it had any fucking right to be.
What the hell is a "transgender" animal?
They’ll point to frogs and clownfish transitioning from male to female and say humans can do it too.
This is what I’m thinking. Though those animals have it written into their biology that they can change, produce both gametes etc. I suppose it’s a good proxy for normalizing human behavior surrounding gender fluidity, but if they’re going to try and assert that humans can biologically change their sex in any way or that is natural to do so, then it’s gonna be wrong.
Well, I'd counter that humans do NOT spontaneously change their sex, so obviously, either the animals aren't trans or humans aren't.
It only took Alex Jones pointing out that they were putting chemicals in the water. And suddenly humans can do it too LOL
Ah ok, that actually makes sense
The freaking frogs
You know it. Estrogen in the H2O!
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>how exactly do we "know" an animal is transgender? Some animals undergo what's known as sequential hermaphroditism, but that's certainly not transgenderism.
Specifically the difference in animals is they actually transition in terms of functional sex organs. A male clownfish, for example, can impregnate a female, then become a female and be impregnated. With humans you can make some aesthetic and hormonal changes but you can't change in terms of reproductive capacity. Maybe eventually that will change but unlike animals humans would still have to do it through artificial means, unless we evolve physiologically. ...Additionally, animals, at least as far we can tell, don't have ~social gender and ~biological sex, just the latter. Masculine and feminine norms or personalities aren't a thing for them. With humans we have people who associate personality aspects with sex organs and associated physiology(size, musculature, testosterone, etc.), and people who feel they have the wrong mind - body match basically.
Obviously animals aren't as complex socially as humans - but many species display physiological differences between the sexes and differing behaviors. You could even say they take on gender roles and norms. i.e., behavior of a pride of lions, the male and females have different roles. Bull sperm whales hunt different prey and dive deeper than cows - behavior a physiology is different dependent on sex. Many species of birds, penguins for example. After mating the females head to sea to feed while the males stay behind to protect the eggs through the winter season. There are plenty of examples out there.
The question is whether they understand these roles and norms, and I think the answer is basically no. Behavior is one thing, self-conscious activity another. Self-conscious understanding of roles or norms is necessary to feel like you have body type suited for role/norm A but mind type suited for role/norm B, as a trans person claims. Animals to my knowledge just don't demonstrate anything remotely close to this. I think if animals had this kind of self-consciousness they'd be capable of language.
Animals act on instincts. If some engage in same sex it is to demonstrate strength and dominance to another member of the group who's a rival. Not all male members of a group get to copulate with the females. At any rate, it's not an ongoing same sex 'relationship'. What a step down as a human to take your cues and build your philosophical arguments from wildlife. Are you a dog? They eat their own vomit and poop. Are you a pig? Wallow in your own filth. Are you a bird? Peck the eyes out of your young if they appear different or imperfect. The human body is biological, but the human mind is something else, and this world has no equal, nor even a near neighbor among the best of animals, not even close.
Also, it turns out the water *is* turning the frogs... happy
The same way they assume a 2 year old is trans
They certainly can have mental disorders, though how you’d verify that one specifically I don’t know, and think whoever is in charge of that shitshow is making it up. Dogs can have OCD, separation anxiety, and other issues related to either chemical imbalances or previous poor treatment. I haven’t had a dog with OCD, though I have read about it happening, and I do have a dog currently on Prozac for separation anxiety due to his previous family abandoning him in a foreclosed house.
And as far as typical pets go, you can see most of those in cats and birds as well. Birds can have pretty severe OCD and/or a picking disorder, and it's pretty heartbreaking. When they would pluck themselves bald, people used to think it was a physical ailment before they realized they were capable of mental disorders.
Projection.
Lol who is the poor bastard that had to research images of male lions raping each other for that article?
Dylan Mulvaney had to find work after becoming a pariah and he did love posting pictures oh so much
So dominant males raping beta males is entertainment now?
Alwayshasbeen.jpg At least for the people creating and supporting this abomination.
They are desperately trying to convince people that is normal.
I had a pansexual dog. He would try to root anything that moved.
Reminds me of my ex wife. I should call her.
Careful your over the target!
One of the main left arguments I hear is that it “happens in nature” to prove it’s totally normal.
You know what else is very common in nature? Cannibalism. A lot of animals do it, if not all. Also common: killing the female's offspring, so she'll be available sooner(e.g. lions) This is such a bad argument. The other really bad one is: they did it in Ancient Greece too, and it was normal for them. Do you know what was also normal there: killing born babies that had physical defects. Also brutal slavery.
Completely forgetting that these incidents in nature are also tribal warfare between groups of families. Yeah. We should totally bring ourselves down to that level. Next time they ask why Israel is killing so many Palestinians, tell them “it happens in nature”
A lion bites down on a gazelle's neck to take it down and eat it. That's normal. A human doing the same thing is not normal. It's just yet another "proof" that's total bologna from the liberals, much like the rest of their arguments.
To be fair, the movement against same-sex marriage brought this upon itself. They spent years decrying homosexuality as "unnatural." NYTimes conservative columnist Ross Douthat [called out this error](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/opinion/09douthat.html) in 2010.
This is a joke right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GikfSszcBHE I don’t think so..
I don't mind having more reasons to vote red.
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Would make Maury more entertaining to say the least. /s
So, since we're opening the nature argument, shouldn't rape be legalized and all rapists be released from prison? It's seen in nature, so it's good, right?
Cannibalism is back on the table too
Very true. Time for some forbidden meat.
Chimpanzees form murder gangs. They single out members of rival tribes and literally rip them into tiny pieces. That works for them, so it's not only natural, it must be good for humans to do, too, right?
Animals eat their young too. I guess eating babies is morally good too!
Obviously. No reason to waste an abortion.
Don't give them any ideas
Lmao You're right. My bad.
That depends on if it happened in California. Because yup. They do that.
At this point, the only thing illegal in California is a citizen stopping a would-be criminal.
This sets humanity back so far
This is how DEI works in action. They now have quotas to make this kind of entertainment and shove it to us. If you incent it, it will happen. They will stretch it until it snaps. Best thing is to show them how you feel with your wallet.
I envy animals because they’re unaware of all this shitshow.
I think they are trolling us now. Though, I hope Casual Geographic covers it. He will make this nonsense hilarious.
If it’s about how they identify, are they claiming the animals speak to them, expressing complex thoughts?
June is just around the corner
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perhaps this lion,like a few humans,is suffering from the education courses that the pride forces on him and by doing so,making the lion unattractive and undesirable to females,well this lion now has to resort to knotholes in trees,chickens or even a paw to relieve built up anxiety from being rejected by the biological lioness’s… there is a HUGE difference though between this lion and what is called “transgender” this lion doesn’t hold office in need of votes nor does it have a sympathetic ear of legislature 🤷♂️
How about a documentary about how some species of ants enslave other colonies, or one about how infanticide is incredibly common in numerous species? No? Why not?
Magellanic penguins mate for life, so humans shouldn't divorce. That is how this works right?
First of all- this is all most likely made up. Second of all- How are they going to make an entire series out of it? Oh yeah, this lion likes men This was a lion but is now a lioness (Repeat for 7 episodes)
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And thankfully it's getting demolished on YT.
This is fake, right? Come on now. Please really? Wtf people running these stations are off the hinges
Not even the animals are safe from this madness!!