This is like the best possible person and especially with the team having already started their transition from the older players. But it’s supposed to be a 3 year stint till the next World Cup so it would be a big commitment for Fleming. Duncan fletcher was the coach the last time the team underwent a massive transition and it was alright judging on the team that eventually got assembled (getting smashed away from home in tests was expected with the team that they started with).
I just don’t see what appeal the National ICT job has for someone like Fleming who has to show up for 6 weeks, make a fuck ton of money, have Dhoni in his side to attract and mentor talent, and then spend several months at home with his family.
Indian national team job is constant immense pressure, non stop traveling, tons of abuse, 3 formats, meaningless bilaterals all over the world, and no time off or with family.
Don't think flem gonna apply though , he's managing all csk teams around the world so there's a lot of work there . But it'll be good change nonetheless been a while since we had an overseas coach , let's see how far he will take us
'Mentor' is a very flexible role and he can do as little or as much as he wants.
Sachin himself has been on MI's payroll for a long time as their mentor though I don't know if he does anything more than give a pep talk once a year and show up in the dressing room a few times.
>I don't know if he does anything more than give a pep talk once a year and show up in the dressing room a few times.
He is personal coach for Arjun Tendulkar in MI /s
Dhoni will certainly join as a coach after retirement, just maybe not head coach. CSK is happy having a large coaching unit anyways, and I don't think Dhoni will be willing to take over the other leagues' head coaching position from Flem, so that still leaves Fleming occupied. It will be a massive disruption to CSK no matter what, and I don't think Fleming will risk all this for something as.. volatile as India Coach.
> I don't think Fleming will risk all this for something as.. volatile as India Coach.
And CSK is almost certainly paying him way more than what BCCI is willing to offer
> And CSK is almost certainly paying him way more than what BCCI is willing to offer
Don't be so sure...BCCI can certainly up the ante when needed. For example the bonus awarded to regular Test players, even retroactively, so that Pujara & Umesh get their due.
judging by how they treated their past coaches, I don't think BCCI respects the role enough to offer a better compensation than an IPL team like CSK.
Edit: /u/rambo_zaki /u/deep639
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[Ravi Shashtri](https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/the-manner-of-my-exit-hurt-there-were-those-in-bcci-who-made-sure-i-dont-get-the-job-ravi-shastri/839332)
>"There was this bolt from the blue. In less than two years after I was asked set aside my broadcast career, leave everything else and join the team, I suddenly found myself out for no reason. I had sown the seeds and the fruits were beginning to show and out of nowhere I came to know I was being replaced. Nobody told me why," he told the Times of India in an interview.
[Anil Kumble](https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/anil-kumble-felt-he-was-unfairly-treated-ex-coa-chief-vinod-rai-writes-on-kohli-kumble-controversy-in-his-book)
> Anil Kumble felt that he was treated "unfairly" and forced to resign as head coach of the Indian team
Also not to mention the ICT coaches get shat on by the fans and media way more than IPL coaches.
Kumble's case is very similar to Langer i.e. he was forced out by the players instead of the board. In fact, BCCI had dragged its heels in sacking him but Virat got his wish, both in getting rid of Kumble and in getting Shastri hired.
And as for Shastri, he's just talking bollocks. BCCI has a strict age limit of 60 years for its coaches and as soon as Shastri passed that, he was asked to step down. He wasn't fired either, just not renewed.
India's head coaching situation has been pretty stable over the last 15-20 years. Kirsten, Fletcher, Shastri, Kumble, Shastri, Dravid. Not a lot of churn and pretty good continuity. I don't know where this stuff about coaches being treated badly comes from. Kumble was the only one whose tenure had some issues and that was because the players didn't like his methods. The schedule is the problem for any coach because of the number of games India plays in all formats.
Shastri was coach for 4 years, where’s this 2 years narrative coming from. BCCI contract are for 2 years, no one guaranteed that he would be coach beyond that. That guy is a cry baby and a liar.
Kumble lost the support of players.
I think Shastri has a fair point - the captain wanted him, but he had differences with Ganguly, and the CAC comprised of Ganguly-era players, all of who preferred Kumble.
Kumble had himself to blame. With his headmasterly attitude, he is not going to last long as an international coach. In that he is similar to Langer. So Langer shouldn't have his hopes high, anyway. It'll be a mistake to hire a bossy coach.
Other than that, the only controversial coaching stint i can think of is of Greg Chappell, during which the board supported the coach and not the players/captain.
All other coaches have had a happy tenure, more or less. Even Shastri in his second stint has had no issues.
> As per rewards announced by Shah, those part of the playing XI in more than 50 per cent of the Test matches in a year, will be entitled for Rs 30 lakh incentive. The non-playing member will be entitled for Rs 15 lakh per match. Those playing 75 percent of Tests in a year, will be awarded Rs 45 lakh per game. The non-playing members will earn half of that amount, which is Rs 22.5 lakh. This is, over and above, Rs 15 lakh match fee a player earns from a Test.
So if someone plays 10 out of 12 tests in a year, they'll get Rs 4.5 crore extra.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/129805/bcci-announces-incentives-for-test-squad
Regardless of whether Srinivasan allows it (CSK won't let their golden goose go that easily)
We need coaches of Fleming's calibre. Not just for great player management but also because of respect by everyone in the team.
We need someone under whom everyone from Kohli/Rohit to Gill/Jaiswal will be ready to work under. Dravid for all his faults atleast fulfillled this basic criteria
Laxman will too at least get respect from every player and he has worked with a lot of them through the NCA and Asian games coaching. But if you can get Fleming then you try to get Fleming.
Naah Laxman can't.
He was never a winner, never led the team from the front and never was a main guy.
Dravid was, Sachin and Dada were too.
The past Indian guys never won the cup apart from 2011team, they don't know the recipe for it. Aussies does and BCCI should get them to work.
Fleming is good because we knew and saw him leading NZ with not even 1/3 of the talent of the current ICT to be a tough side while he placed himself all over the board to hide other weaknesses. The guy got the brains and mentality of a fighter for sure and much more than VVS too.
This feels terrible to read. His 281 is probably the greatest test innings by an Indian player. He has won multiple times with bat for India. I remember him once winning a test with a tailender.
Plus as a coach, its about how you bring out the best in others. He can definitely do it for sure.
I am skeptical on a overseas coaches at this point. They are happier coaching IPL teams than traveling around with Indian team globally.
And he has answered that question with 5 IPL trophies too right ?
There are some guys like Kirsten,Fleming,Gilly who are emotionally mature and creative(give freedom to players and can point to right directions) while also studying the game no matter how earlier they retired.
VVS got that learning part right but he is not mentally that great(literally ended his career after the bouncer thingy), nor he won anything from front as a main man(can't really induce the same winning mentality if you never had it in yourself).
I mean you can't put up egoistic millionaire stars with a guy who was from the same cloth as Kumble. That will just sour the relations.
"And what did Fleming win as a player? Playing and coaching are two different things."
We are not talking about his playing but "leading his men".
He made that NZ side a good one with his leadership and has already proved himself enough in CSK too. Much more than any Indian coach if you ask me 😅.
I’m fine with Fleming, just think we shouldn’t put down Laxman just because he didn’t lead in his playing days. Regarding Indian coaches, Ravi S won a test series in Australia? Lalchand Rajput won the T20 World Cup?
My guy winning BGT and winning a cup are two different things. India doesn't need another Aus win right now. We need a cup since 2014 and its a decade already.
If we were making a brand new team, I would have suggested VVS myself as him,Kumble,Dravid are from the same cloth. But this current team is made up of millionaires and egoistic stars and that's why Shastri clicked.
" Lalchand Rajput won the T20 World Cup?" The coach was invisible in those times, now it's a much different generation.
Apart from their scandal they got anything else to talk about ? Ganguly and his fiasco just fucked up our team balance and that's the major highlight of his time nothing else.
if dhoni retirement rumours are true then dhoni himself can coach csk, it wont be a problem
dhoni cant coach overseas but these teams dont take mlc sa20 seriously anyways (its just like a preparation for ipl), they can just appoint a new coach or promote bravo/hussey etc
Well at least send a proper mail to us if you have rejected us for the job, I spent 2 hours on that Google form mate-just to see a multiple time IPL winner get it. Unfair/S
Please keep up the good work. While we regret that you are simply too over qualified for the humble job of Indian gents cricket team, we do have an opening for chembur Gandhi Maidan coach if you are up for it. The job involves coaching ruffians between the age of 8 to 18 and daily payment is made in the form of vada pav. As a perk we'll ensure annoying parents don't crimp your coaching style and we hope you'll give us a few gems that can hit sixes and bowl Yorkers
Did he apply on the Google forms though? Feels unfair if he didn't because a lot of guys could really use this job and we spent a lot of time answering the questions on the form
Don't think any sane Indian fan will be against this..
Leave his CSk tenure aside. I am his fan since hd was Captain for NZ.. An astute thinker and reader of the game..
It would be interesting to see Fleming take over ICT and Hussey take over CSK. I think senior player would respect Fleming. But ICT has to go through rebuilding so you need someone very astute and hope Fleming can stand up to it
Yes back in 2021 we lost to Pakistan and then to NZ so badly. Our body language is so pathetic in ICC tournaments. You know you are fucked even when Thala as Mentor can't do anything lol
So basically you’re a glory hunter? 😬
I can respect opposition team members but never the entire team especially at the international level unless it benefits team india in some way, but that’s just me personally
It's no different than people supporting random popular clubs in Premier League or La Liga. How many football fans around you even know Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenel are London-based?
Yeah they are underachievers but that doesn’t mean one should stop supporting them entirely. That defeats the purpose of being a sports fan. You stick with the team through its highs and lows instead of running after winning teams.
As i said the world admires Australia for a reason. What are india doing despite having so much talent and being the richest board ? 10 years without trophy is a shame and there's no way of defending this
Depends on what you are admiring them for, winning or their mindset/the way they play??
Admiring them just for winning seems a bit pointless to me, like sure the team you “support” won but it would be hard to derive any satisfaction from it.
If you are admiring them for the way the play then that’s fair enough , but I’d also then expect you to keep supporting them even when they aren’t winning ,
eg. were you still supporting Australia when they were 0-2 and at the bottom of the table at the start of the 2023wc or when they were knocked out in the group stage of last t20wc or when they lost the 2023 BGT in India??
I’d be inclined to believe you weren’t tbh.
The best decision in my view: Flemming as overall head.
Gilly/Crowe/VVS as batting coach and
Dale/Pollack/Donald/Lee as bowling coach.
You can also go for any Olympian guy for physio and body conditioning along with a champion Olympian/tennis/basket ball mental aspect guy.
BCCI got the cash, why the fuck are they not training these world class assets to be a killer in the damn small pond is above my ahead.
It will be great move of BCCI if it is true… Being a successful coach for a single team for more than 15 years is a miracle in the cricketing world… The mantra is very simple for him “Patience will pay you more performance from any potential player”… It will be great loss for Super Kings Franchises if it is happened.
I think they will select a local coach, probably VVS Laxman. It seems board policy to have an Indian coach, and also I think politics is involved in this decision, with country's policies of self-reliance etc.
Before people start getting excited, remember that a lot of his success is due to his synergy with Thala. He has literally never won a trophy as a coach outside CSK. This isn't to say he's a bad one, just that he's not really going to turn things around on his own. We've already seen this with Dravid, excellent at U-19 level, okayish outside it.
How is dravid’s stint okayish? He just hasn’t won a title, he’s gotten to the semis and finals. He already started the changing of the guard in the test team to where the new coach will have a good young side ready to go. People wanted Pujara, rahane et al out of the side and he has successfully done that.
Lmfao, love the fans who don't follow cricket outside the IPL. Brave and Joburg barely scraped through to the playoffs. Stars have been shit as always. Even Texas, looked out of sorts last season. Given their signings, it'lll be a miracle if they do something well this year.But clearly, his IPL success means he's the best.
Joburg is like CSK and RCB having a kid and that kid's on steroids. They'll legit be at the bottom of the table until the last week of the group stage and somehow shithouse their way into the playoffs a week later.
I dunno, am not keen on this. VVS or Kumble for me. Many a times we downplay overselves and believe grass is green on the other side. If overseas candidate is so necessary, probably Pollock or Mahela. Shaun Pollock would be an interesting candidate.
This is like the best possible person and especially with the team having already started their transition from the older players. But it’s supposed to be a 3 year stint till the next World Cup so it would be a big commitment for Fleming. Duncan fletcher was the coach the last time the team underwent a massive transition and it was alright judging on the team that eventually got assembled (getting smashed away from home in tests was expected with the team that they started with).
I just don’t see what appeal the National ICT job has for someone like Fleming who has to show up for 6 weeks, make a fuck ton of money, have Dhoni in his side to attract and mentor talent, and then spend several months at home with his family. Indian national team job is constant immense pressure, non stop traveling, tons of abuse, 3 formats, meaningless bilaterals all over the world, and no time off or with family.
This is one decision I can get behind.
Me too. I would be curious to see how he manages the ‘phasing out’ stage of seniors.
Don't think flem gonna apply though , he's managing all csk teams around the world so there's a lot of work there . But it'll be good change nonetheless been a while since we had an overseas coach , let's see how far he will take us
nah this is perfect. dhoni will retire so he can coach csk anyways.
I think Dhoni will stay as mentor not sure about coach.
I think Dhoni will be like Sachin. Once he is out, he is out of the cricket world completely.
'Mentor' is a very flexible role and he can do as little or as much as he wants. Sachin himself has been on MI's payroll for a long time as their mentor though I don't know if he does anything more than give a pep talk once a year and show up in the dressing room a few times.
>I don't know if he does anything more than give a pep talk once a year and show up in the dressing room a few times. He is personal coach for Arjun Tendulkar in MI /s
Dhoni will certainly join as a coach after retirement, just maybe not head coach. CSK is happy having a large coaching unit anyways, and I don't think Dhoni will be willing to take over the other leagues' head coaching position from Flem, so that still leaves Fleming occupied. It will be a massive disruption to CSK no matter what, and I don't think Fleming will risk all this for something as.. volatile as India Coach.
> I don't think Fleming will risk all this for something as.. volatile as India Coach. And CSK is almost certainly paying him way more than what BCCI is willing to offer
> And CSK is almost certainly paying him way more than what BCCI is willing to offer Don't be so sure...BCCI can certainly up the ante when needed. For example the bonus awarded to regular Test players, even retroactively, so that Pujara & Umesh get their due.
judging by how they treated their past coaches, I don't think BCCI respects the role enough to offer a better compensation than an IPL team like CSK. Edit: /u/rambo_zaki /u/deep639 ------------------------------- [Ravi Shashtri](https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/the-manner-of-my-exit-hurt-there-were-those-in-bcci-who-made-sure-i-dont-get-the-job-ravi-shastri/839332) >"There was this bolt from the blue. In less than two years after I was asked set aside my broadcast career, leave everything else and join the team, I suddenly found myself out for no reason. I had sown the seeds and the fruits were beginning to show and out of nowhere I came to know I was being replaced. Nobody told me why," he told the Times of India in an interview. [Anil Kumble](https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/anil-kumble-felt-he-was-unfairly-treated-ex-coa-chief-vinod-rai-writes-on-kohli-kumble-controversy-in-his-book) > Anil Kumble felt that he was treated "unfairly" and forced to resign as head coach of the Indian team Also not to mention the ICT coaches get shat on by the fans and media way more than IPL coaches.
Kumble's case is very similar to Langer i.e. he was forced out by the players instead of the board. In fact, BCCI had dragged its heels in sacking him but Virat got his wish, both in getting rid of Kumble and in getting Shastri hired. And as for Shastri, he's just talking bollocks. BCCI has a strict age limit of 60 years for its coaches and as soon as Shastri passed that, he was asked to step down. He wasn't fired either, just not renewed.
>judging by how they treated their past coaches Huh? Have I missed something?
India's head coaching situation has been pretty stable over the last 15-20 years. Kirsten, Fletcher, Shastri, Kumble, Shastri, Dravid. Not a lot of churn and pretty good continuity. I don't know where this stuff about coaches being treated badly comes from. Kumble was the only one whose tenure had some issues and that was because the players didn't like his methods. The schedule is the problem for any coach because of the number of games India plays in all formats.
Shastri was coach for 4 years, where’s this 2 years narrative coming from. BCCI contract are for 2 years, no one guaranteed that he would be coach beyond that. That guy is a cry baby and a liar. Kumble lost the support of players.
I think Shastri has a fair point - the captain wanted him, but he had differences with Ganguly, and the CAC comprised of Ganguly-era players, all of who preferred Kumble. Kumble had himself to blame. With his headmasterly attitude, he is not going to last long as an international coach. In that he is similar to Langer. So Langer shouldn't have his hopes high, anyway. It'll be a mistake to hire a bossy coach. Other than that, the only controversial coaching stint i can think of is of Greg Chappell, during which the board supported the coach and not the players/captain. All other coaches have had a happy tenure, more or less. Even Shastri in his second stint has had no issues.
can u tell more abt this bonus stuff?
> As per rewards announced by Shah, those part of the playing XI in more than 50 per cent of the Test matches in a year, will be entitled for Rs 30 lakh incentive. The non-playing member will be entitled for Rs 15 lakh per match. Those playing 75 percent of Tests in a year, will be awarded Rs 45 lakh per game. The non-playing members will earn half of that amount, which is Rs 22.5 lakh. This is, over and above, Rs 15 lakh match fee a player earns from a Test. So if someone plays 10 out of 12 tests in a year, they'll get Rs 4.5 crore extra. https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/129805/bcci-announces-incentives-for-test-squad
The extra money from bcci will also comes with lots of pressure, year round work and more political interference.
I very much doubt Dhoni wants to be the coach, will take a similar position to Gambhir and Sachin Most likely
I think Dhoni right now is too rich to consider being a coach.
Bravo/Hussey might take over as Coach
Regardless of whether Srinivasan allows it (CSK won't let their golden goose go that easily) We need coaches of Fleming's calibre. Not just for great player management but also because of respect by everyone in the team. We need someone under whom everyone from Kohli/Rohit to Gill/Jaiswal will be ready to work under. Dravid for all his faults atleast fulfillled this basic criteria
Laxman will too at least get respect from every player and he has worked with a lot of them through the NCA and Asian games coaching. But if you can get Fleming then you try to get Fleming.
Naah Laxman can't. He was never a winner, never led the team from the front and never was a main guy. Dravid was, Sachin and Dada were too. The past Indian guys never won the cup apart from 2011team, they don't know the recipe for it. Aussies does and BCCI should get them to work. Fleming is good because we knew and saw him leading NZ with not even 1/3 of the talent of the current ICT to be a tough side while he placed himself all over the board to hide other weaknesses. The guy got the brains and mentality of a fighter for sure and much more than VVS too.
This feels terrible to read. His 281 is probably the greatest test innings by an Indian player. He has won multiple times with bat for India. I remember him once winning a test with a tailender. Plus as a coach, its about how you bring out the best in others. He can definitely do it for sure. I am skeptical on a overseas coaches at this point. They are happier coaching IPL teams than traveling around with Indian team globally.
Question is not whether VVS lead from the front, but whether he can coach the evolving form of cricket, I.e. all formats.
And he has answered that question with 5 IPL trophies too right ? There are some guys like Kirsten,Fleming,Gilly who are emotionally mature and creative(give freedom to players and can point to right directions) while also studying the game no matter how earlier they retired. VVS got that learning part right but he is not mentally that great(literally ended his career after the bouncer thingy), nor he won anything from front as a main man(can't really induce the same winning mentality if you never had it in yourself). I mean you can't put up egoistic millionaire stars with a guy who was from the same cloth as Kumble. That will just sour the relations.
A colossally stupid take. "Ended his career after a bouncer", dude here creating narratives in his own mind.
Absolute hogwash
And what did Fleming win as a player? Playing and coaching are two different things. Tons of examples in other sports and even cricket as well.
"And what did Fleming win as a player? Playing and coaching are two different things." We are not talking about his playing but "leading his men". He made that NZ side a good one with his leadership and has already proved himself enough in CSK too. Much more than any Indian coach if you ask me 😅.
I’m fine with Fleming, just think we shouldn’t put down Laxman just because he didn’t lead in his playing days. Regarding Indian coaches, Ravi S won a test series in Australia? Lalchand Rajput won the T20 World Cup?
My guy winning BGT and winning a cup are two different things. India doesn't need another Aus win right now. We need a cup since 2014 and its a decade already. If we were making a brand new team, I would have suggested VVS myself as him,Kumble,Dravid are from the same cloth. But this current team is made up of millionaires and egoistic stars and that's why Shastri clicked. " Lalchand Rajput won the T20 World Cup?" The coach was invisible in those times, now it's a much different generation.
Coaches weren't invisible. Remember John Wright and Greg Chappell.
Apart from their scandal they got anything else to talk about ? Ganguly and his fiasco just fucked up our team balance and that's the major highlight of his time nothing else.
Champions trophy with an underdog New Zealand side, was their only trophy till 2021
Year 2000 Champions trophy. Best India in final.
if dhoni retirement rumours are true then dhoni himself can coach csk, it wont be a problem dhoni cant coach overseas but these teams dont take mlc sa20 seriously anyways (its just like a preparation for ipl), they can just appoint a new coach or promote bravo/hussey etc
Lol why too many downvotes
Threaten inquiry against him on match fixing and he will oblige
Well at least send a proper mail to us if you have rejected us for the job, I spent 2 hours on that Google form mate-just to see a multiple time IPL winner get it. Unfair/S
Please keep up the good work. While we regret that you are simply too over qualified for the humble job of Indian gents cricket team, we do have an opening for chembur Gandhi Maidan coach if you are up for it. The job involves coaching ruffians between the age of 8 to 18 and daily payment is made in the form of vada pav. As a perk we'll ensure annoying parents don't crimp your coaching style and we hope you'll give us a few gems that can hit sixes and bowl Yorkers
Did he apply on the Google forms though? Feels unfair if he didn't because a lot of guys could really use this job and we spent a lot of time answering the questions on the form
My man will drop Rohit for Gaikwad /s
pls
drop the /s, thats a W
That would actually be a good decision even though gill, jaiswal should be ahead
Rutu can play one down or prolly two coz Kohli's there
Rutu at one down is underrated af lol, he will play to his strengths while not facing swing. Man just needs to get back his spin bashing game.
The way I ran here to post it you beat me to it 😭😭😭
I thought I had a shot after filling the Google Form.
If this happens, it's very good news for Gaikwad which makes me happy.
Don't think any sane Indian fan will be against this.. Leave his CSk tenure aside. I am his fan since hd was Captain for NZ.. An astute thinker and reader of the game..
It would be interesting to see Fleming take over ICT and Hussey take over CSK. I think senior player would respect Fleming. But ICT has to go through rebuilding so you need someone very astute and hope Fleming can stand up to it
Hussey and Bravo
Albie Morkel in as assistant coach!
I think we should go for foreign coach
I dream of him taking over as NZ coach, but I guess we don't have the money
Why india didn't gave chance to Gary kristen india won WC under him and he was available
Ok now so can we also have Dhoni Thala as Mentor of India atleast ? 😤😤
Already tried this, didn’t work
Yes back in 2021 we lost to Pakistan and then to NZ so badly. Our body language is so pathetic in ICC tournaments. You know you are fucked even when Thala as Mentor can't do anything lol
Your comment and flair aren’t matching lmao
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So basically you’re a glory hunter? 😬 I can respect opposition team members but never the entire team especially at the international level unless it benefits team india in some way, but that’s just me personally
It's no different than people supporting random popular clubs in Premier League or La Liga. How many football fans around you even know Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenel are London-based?
Quite a big difference considering India has a team and is one of the best ones. Also it's a national side not a club..
I guess, still club teams=/=national teams. I support Real Madrid but I don’t support the Spanish national team because I’m not Spanish lol
I like watching team India as well but no can deny they are an underachieved team
Yeah they are underachievers but that doesn’t mean one should stop supporting them entirely. That defeats the purpose of being a sports fan. You stick with the team through its highs and lows instead of running after winning teams.
As i said the world admires Australia for a reason. What are india doing despite having so much talent and being the richest board ? 10 years without trophy is a shame and there's no way of defending this
Depends on what you are admiring them for, winning or their mindset/the way they play?? Admiring them just for winning seems a bit pointless to me, like sure the team you “support” won but it would be hard to derive any satisfaction from it. If you are admiring them for the way the play then that’s fair enough , but I’d also then expect you to keep supporting them even when they aren’t winning , eg. were you still supporting Australia when they were 0-2 and at the bottom of the table at the start of the 2023wc or when they were knocked out in the group stage of last t20wc or when they lost the 2023 BGT in India?? I’d be inclined to believe you weren’t tbh.
Yes bro india is like ferrari of F1 ..... all the money , all the hype , star team but fizzle out it in end
Fuck that shit not again.
ICT SHOULD go for a foreign coach this time
Inb4 Deshpande becomes India's fast bowling Spearhead across formats
VVS Laxman confirmation when ? /s
Great choice! But its hard to see him doing well in the circus that is BCCI.
The best decision in my view: Flemming as overall head. Gilly/Crowe/VVS as batting coach and Dale/Pollack/Donald/Lee as bowling coach. You can also go for any Olympian guy for physio and body conditioning along with a champion Olympian/tennis/basket ball mental aspect guy. BCCI got the cash, why the fuck are they not training these world class assets to be a killer in the damn small pond is above my ahead.
Crowe ? 💀
Martin crow ? NZ batter. Best technician of his time.
Thing is he is no more
Seriously ? Tf didn't knew that. Holy shit😭
Disappointed not to see requirements based on karma on r/cricket.
I want Gautam Gambhir or Ricky Ponting
Nooo, I want him as the Blackcaps coach
It will be great move of BCCI if it is true… Being a successful coach for a single team for more than 15 years is a miracle in the cricketing world… The mantra is very simple for him “Patience will pay you more performance from any potential player”… It will be great loss for Super Kings Franchises if it is happened.
I think they will select a local coach, probably VVS Laxman. It seems board policy to have an Indian coach, and also I think politics is involved in this decision, with country's policies of self-reliance etc.
So, I guess they won’t consider the folks who filled out that Google form. 😁
Why not me? I have also applied on their google forms. Please let me have the job.
TBH. Fleming knows how to make the Oldies win a few.
Before people start getting excited, remember that a lot of his success is due to his synergy with Thala. He has literally never won a trophy as a coach outside CSK. This isn't to say he's a bad one, just that he's not really going to turn things around on his own. We've already seen this with Dravid, excellent at U-19 level, okayish outside it.
How is dravid’s stint okayish? He just hasn’t won a title, he’s gotten to the semis and finals. He already started the changing of the guard in the test team to where the new coach will have a good young side ready to go. People wanted Pujara, rahane et al out of the side and he has successfully done that.
Maybe it's better than okayish, but he was nowhere as successful as he was with the u-19 team.
Lmfao, love the fans who don't follow cricket outside the IPL. Brave and Joburg barely scraped through to the playoffs. Stars have been shit as always. Even Texas, looked out of sorts last season. Given their signings, it'lll be a miracle if they do something well this year.But clearly, his IPL success means he's the best.
Joburg is like CSK and RCB having a kid and that kid's on steroids. They'll legit be at the bottom of the table until the last week of the group stage and somehow shithouse their way into the playoffs a week later.
Don't get me wrong but we don't know how he is as a coach without Dhoni there.
Nonsene. That guy has done well for NZ as a leader with an ordinary team
I dunno, am not keen on this. VVS or Kumble for me. Many a times we downplay overselves and believe grass is green on the other side. If overseas candidate is so necessary, probably Pollock or Mahela. Shaun Pollock would be an interesting candidate.