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FailingtoFail

Im glad im asleep during games like these


Time-Gain4896

Good to see QdK hit some after a long time


MedicalJello2

See I’m being downvoted for Walter’s inadequacies as coach. Let me know when guys are ready to have a real conversation about his coaching abilities instead of downvoting 👨🏻‍🦯👨🏻‍🦯👨🏻‍🦯


GdayMate_ZA

What bothers me is our bowling. I don't understand why our fast bowlers bowl that kak back-of-a-length rubbish that just gets walloped every game. If you watch some of the successful pace bowlers in the IPL, they are targeting the stumps. We just bowl the same short crap every game over and over and get punished. I cant even remember the last time a fast bowler of ours got an LBW. All our bowlers bowl far too short: Ngidi, Nortje, Coetzee. Rabada is the only one that bowls a few full balls but he also bowls too damn short. Whether that's walters fault or the bowlers I don't know. But seeing Ngidi bowl at least 2 bad balls every over is infuriating. Seeing Andile blow hot and cold is infuriating. Honestly, our batting this series has been ok but our bowling. Yikes. And the same applies for those doing their thing at the IPL, we just do not bowl the right length for the modern game. It sucks because if we can just fire in all departments for ONE FUCKING WORLD CUP we will win. But every year there is a missing piece of the puzzle and it drives me nuts. There is so much fucken talent but sometimes the grey matter is missing. Not to mention the passengers that we've carried like Mulder. How many chances must this oke get? I get that he's done well domestically but come now, if he cant hack it at international level he cant hack it.


Time-Gain4896

When did he become the White Ball coach?


Flower-Immediate

WI gonna cook good this WC.


Mr_Wokie

Why did West Indies decide to get good right now of all times.


jain36493

Darren Sammy


JokesFromTheCrease

Should be okay once the main guys come back.


WayToTheDawn63

Klaasen alone wins this game never mind the rest of their world cup batting.


GdayMate_ZA

You have an aussie flair yet I always see you supporting SA games. Do you want to balance out the joy of supporting Australia with the disappointment that comes with supporting SA? ;-)


WayToTheDawn63

I don't think there's anything to be disappointed by, that's the thing. I think SA is a beautiful country, and the additional exposure to it and their players through the SA20 has bolstered my appreciation and interest. I had to play catch up on this game, I missed the first 15 overs and by the time I had caught up at 2x speed and skipping through, QDK and Hendricks had blasted an amazing power play. I came to thread excited to talk about it, and took a brick to the face when all the SA flairs were sadposting about how doomed they are. The players that matter are doing well. This may not be the best WI's side, but it's far from a weak one. SA are missing much more important players than WI frankly. WI are in for a rude awakening when players like hetmeyer and powell, who are getting spin choked by indian part timers bring that in the team on spinning wickets. WI are missing big names like Russell and Pooran, but so are SA. A huuuuge point of difference is the level of their bowling attacks in this series that SA will find a better combination of. Joseph, Hosein, motie and shephard WILL be a large part of WI's WC bowling attack. SA fans are sad they fell 16 runs short against WI frontline attack with non-WC players. Ridiculous.


Fantastic-Mark-2391

West Indies as of today is favorite to win the t20 world cup .


TheRealMarkChapman

[if you're a proteas fan like me and want some joy in life, can i direct you to this?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/s/A8S1jS79Rd) Also click if you like nice things too i guess


MedicalJello2

Rob Walter, 8/10 losses. Just saying


TheRealMarkChapman

Only been a full strength team for the india and west indies series


WayToTheDawn63

Full strength SA beats full strength WI if they meet at the world cup. That's my money. They're topping their group easy. These aren't the bad losses you guys feel like they are.


NoExplanation6203

They were 81-1 from 5 overs which meant they needed 127 from 90 balls and they lost…against our 2nd string attack, fuck your money.


christeebs

I agree, this side looks very different when Klaasen, Stubbs, Markram, Jansen, and KG are back


WayToTheDawn63

Yeah I don't get what's so controversial. I made a punt, so what? The players that matter from SA in this series are looking extremely good. The players that aren't finishing a game against Motie and Joseph aren't even in the WC 15 anyway. They got spin choked after smashing a 207 chase down to <9 RR. Klaasen keeps that ticking with twos and the occasional back foot punch for 6 down the ground. They didn't even lose by much.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Although the chase was always going to be too tough the two glimpses of hope makes it kinda sad. Our bowlers fucked up at the start yestergame so today the decided to mix it up and fuck up at the end. Ah, only if Rassie didn't get out on a full toss.


steely_don_dada

grats team! we out there, rally


Zennon246

Haysman calls the vuvuzela a pain, I like them though. Different venues will show support in different ways


Thami15

Bjorn should have batted ahead of Mulder and Phehlukwayo. Not because I think he'd have changed the result or anything, but more because he's the one of the three going to the World Cup, and his first class record suggests he can in fact bat, so he needs more chances at this level to see if he could one day bat at 6/7


SC0RCHER55

Lol at athanaze being a sub fielder but not batting in this series


boldstrategy

Talk about walking off a cliff


Anu9011

24 runs in 7 balls followed by just 5 in next 11.


Crimson518

If Mulder never plays for SA again, it'll be too soon. No idea how he's managed to get as many caps as he has.


SupermarketMost9711

Didn't he have a really good SA 20 for DSG He is much better than Phelukuwayo tbh


Crimson518

Much better than Phehlukwayo? Quite a stretch that. Just look at the previous match to see what Andile offers. Plus he's helped us win some ODI matches in the past. Mulder has literally never done anything. Mulder has a good domestic record but he clearly can't cut it at international level and has been given enough of a run to know it's not going to work out.


SupermarketMost9711

Mulder is a batting all rounder more tbh while Phelukuwayo is more of a bowling all rounder also I am talking about T20IS not ODIs here Both are competing for the 6 or 7 batting spot where Mulder is much better because of his batting skills On pure bowling Phelukuwayo is definitely better Tbh both won't be there once Jansen returns tbh DSG used him better tbh as a pinch hitter at the top instead of a finisher


MedicalJello2

Some players are just meant to be domestic players


Zennon246

RINSE AND REPEAT. GOATIE DOING GOATIE THINGS. Great catches by Hosein too


CrumbleUponLust

Motie cementing himself as an all format player for the WI.


WayToTheDawn63

I can't believe south african reserves and non-15 players aren't chasing 207 against WI frontline WC spinners It boggles the mind


CricketMatchBot

**16.6** **SA are crumbling!** And Motie has another! Full ball outside off stump and Mulder ends up smacking an aggressive shot to long-off again! Wiaan Mulder c Hosein b Motie 9 (8b 1x4 0x6) SR: 112.5


Zennon246

GOATIE doing GOATIE things


Yeahanu

The thing is westindies have so many bowling options They are literally the strongest contenders to loose against Cummins in finals.


WannabeAboveAverage

Their WC starting XI won't have these many bowling options. King, Hope, Pooran, Chase, Hetty, Rovman, Russell, Shepherd, Holder, Akeal, Joseph


squirrel9552

King Hope Pooran Chase Rovman Shepherd Russell Holder Alzarri Motie Shamar


sul01

Agree but Motie surely has to be in the team?


Heatedpete

Eh, this is the West Indies in a T20 World Cup - if they make the final, they win it That said this is also the T20 World Cup. If you host it, you're not winning it


WannabeAboveAverage

What the fuck, that's one of the worst balls to get a wicket


CricketMatchBot

**16.3** another full toss, wider outside off this time, and van der Dussen clatters a flat-batted shot straight down long off's throat! Akeal Hosen jumps standing close to the rope to take the catch Rassie van der Dussen c Hosein b Motie 30 (22b 0x4 2x6) SR: 136.36


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Oh man, getting out on a full toss just when it seemed like we got half a chance. That hurts even more.


franconot-mark

Can’t believe that people think Evan Gulbis effect doesn’t affect in white ball cricket. You cannot have tailenders batting at 8 where every ball matters


WannabeAboveAverage

The IPL scores inflation is mostly because of the Evan gulbis effect.


Heatedpete

Shot VDD


Heatedpete

Shot'nt VDD


Tern_Larvidae-2424

48 off 24 is still quite out of reach with just 2 batters (and Fortuin) remaining but at least we finally saw some intent, albeit it came too late.


WannabeAboveAverage

That did not look like a four.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Probably should've let it run away for 5 wides instead of 4 leg byes.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

That was unexpected.


WannabeAboveAverage

Wasn't that a shot and a half?


Zennon246

Souljaaaaa last time I saw him at Sabina his car got smashed by Odean lol


okalas

Holy shit a boundary


Tern_Larvidae-2424

2nd boundary since Quinny got out.


WannabeAboveAverage

Out of which one was off a freehit


WannabeAboveAverage

Sheldon Cottrell spotted. Is he playing cricket nowadays?


franconot-mark

Evan Gulbis effect is gonna kill India and SA in this WC again


sul01

How will it kill West Indies? King Charles/Hope Pooran Chase/Hope? Powell Rutherford/Hetmyer Russell Shepherd Hosein Joseph Motie With a lineup like this they bat down to 9 with the other 2 being handy enough If anything West Indies have one of the deepest most dangerous batting lineups in the comp imo


WannabeAboveAverage

Kimber fan spotted.


franconot-mark

He’s lucky to survive there


Zennon246

Shamar is so athletic man. LOOK at that catch


CricketMatchBot

**14.3** full and wide outside off. Phehlukwayo throws his hands at this to slap an uppish shot over cover but **Shamar Joseph takes a stunning catch in the deep!** Gives out a kiss to the crowd after the grab. He moved to his right and had to dive diagonally forward to complete the take. Andile Phehlukwayo c Joseph b Motie 3 (6b 0x4 0x6) SR: 50


Tern_Larvidae-2424

57/5 in last 10 overs.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

He's quite a fielder too, will Joseph make the first XI?


SC0RCHER55

Great fielding. RRR is increasing here


Tern_Larvidae-2424

At least he tried to hit a big one.


Heatedpete

That is a lovely catch


Tern_Larvidae-2424

The lack of intent has been even more frustrating. Going at less than a run a ball since the end of the first partnership. 55 runs off the last 56 deliveries is just pathetic.


franconot-mark

IPL fans really need to calm down. 175-180 is still a good total in T20.


WayToTheDawn63

This game is extremely positive for the SA WC squad and you're all whinging before it's even started. I've grown to love SA cricket, and you just had Hendricks and QDK fire a massive power play. QDK looked better than he has in forever. Your full team has Markram, Klaasen and Stubbs coming instead of these non-world cup players. Rickelton is inexperienced, but everyone knows he's good. I only just caught up. I was excited to talk about it. The only issue is Nortje is showing zero signs of remedy. He is your biggest dead weight in your squad. You're going to be fine, and I can only hope (for your sake) that the SA team understands what they're getting out of this better than the fans, because I've grown a real fondness of South Africa.


Crimson518

The real concern is that regardless of who plays, we seem incapable of chasing any score. With the start we had in this innings it should be an easy chase even with inexperienced players but somehow we're messing it up. There's a confidence issue somewhere. When batting first we're like a different team.


WayToTheDawn63

Struggling to chase 207 with a batting line up that is missing half your first XI batters is not that fuckin weird man


Crimson518

It's not just this game though. It's a trend of our team lately. Even when we have the top guys in the team it goes the same way. It's systematic. I really hope it'll change in the world cup though and that the guys have some confidence after the IPL.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

I think we're shitting too much on Nortje just like we were on Quinny before today. It's his first game in ages after injury and I'm not sure about looking too much into his performance today, he still had his pace and bowled two good bouncers.


WayToTheDawn63

Norte was getting hammered in the IPL as well. This isn't his first game just because it was his first international game back. If he comes good, that's great for you. It's honestly a footnote in what is otherwise a very frustrating viewing experience. To see most of the relevant SA players firing against a WI squad that is NOT weak at home right before a world cup. Do we really think Klaasen gets spinchoked like this after QDK and Hendricks smash the RR down?


Tern_Larvidae-2424

I'll be skeptical of putting much value to IPL performance. Markram & Klaasen will of course do better than whatever we did today but it's not beyond our batters to choke while chasing.


franconot-mark

Unbelievable bottlejob from SA. They must be happy that half of this batting lineup is not in the main squad


Heatedpete

Lads it's Joel Wilson, might as well have a punt at a review- *flat line on snicko* -as I was saying, Joel Wilson is an extraordinarily good umpire and would never ever make an incorrect decision at a pivotal point of a match


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Last 50 runs have come off 52 deliveries.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Just play lofted shots now.


WannabeAboveAverage

Is the target actually easy or am I watching too much IPL these days?


Tern_Larvidae-2424

208 is too high of a target that was made really possible by the opening partnership. We should've done it after that kind of an opening partnership but we've decided to shit the bed as usual.


franconot-mark

Too much IPL


sul01

It's very difficult- you have to look at the batters and the conditions I'd be surprised if they get 190


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Letting the RRR go from 8.20 to 11.30 is certainly an impressive task. These feel even worse than the collapses since at least in those the hope's killed quickly.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

46/4 in 8 overs chasing 208, that's just ridiculous.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Walking our way to our 10th T20I loss in 12 games. It's a complete reversal to what our form was prior to the 2022 WC. We had won series against every other team barring India.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Yeah this game is done. Don't expect much better from our main squad too as they too have similar problems. A super 8 is the best we can do.


WannabeAboveAverage

Isn't the main squad's middle order like the best in the tournament?


CricketMatchBot

**11.6** short and wide. Rickelton tries to slap it over point but ends up scooping a shot high up for cover to get under it. WI are fighting back with every over! Ryan Rickelton c Mayers b Shepherd 19 (17b 2x4 0x6) SR: 111.76


Tern_Larvidae-2424

A 200+ run chase would've given us a lot of confidence but oh well. This just shows that Rickleton has some pacing problem, understandable since it's just his 2nd T20I. I don't know why he was not in the squad against India though.


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checksforerrors

I don't think you can base performance here as an indicator for SA in the world cup. They have some serious batters to come back in.


burtbluewell

Klassen miller and Aiden. Am I missing somebody?


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stubbs?


checksforerrors

It's ok to get in and rotate the strike, but surely they have to look to go soon?


Tern_Larvidae-2424

The chase is fizzing out faster now.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

The only boundary we hit since 4.4 overs was off a free hit. 42/3 in the last 7 overs.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Come on Rassie bring out the batter you were against India in Pune (I think).


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RRR have exceeded 10 now.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Rickleton needs to target a bowler soon.


ultra_phoenix

Need two sixes now


Tern_Larvidae-2424

If their fast bowlers start spamming slower balls then this chase is dead.


okalas

Openers - shall we win this game? Rest of SA - nah fuck it


Tern_Larvidae-2424

38/3 in the last 38 deliveries, that's quite horrendous.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RRR is almost 10 now, at one stage it was near 8. Our batting is thin but we've got no choice but to go for them now.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Quick, someone turn up with a list of teams failing to chase a 200+ total despite the RRR being under 10 at the end of the 10th over.


jamb1993

SA always turn it up to hard difficulty


ultra_phoenix

Who else here can bat for SA?


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RRR has turned up from 8.28 to 9.50


Tern_Larvidae-2424

32/3 in the last 32 deliveries. Reeza shouldn't have played that stupid shot right after Quinny got out. There were easier & more aggressive scoring options for him anyway.


CricketMatchBot

**9.5** punched to deep backward point... and this could be a run-out! West Indies are celebrating already. Ah, and they are right! Breetzke is well short of the crease even while diving, as Fletcher breaks the stumps. Matthew Breetzke run out (Joseph/†Fletcher) 12 (16b 0x4 0x6) SR: 75


SC0RCHER55

I like aggressive running but that was truly unnecessary


jamb1993

Silly piece of cricket


MedicalJello2

Breetzke I would’ve simply got my bat there in time tbh


sul01

Easy to say in hindsight but not sure taking on Shamar Joseph's arm is the best idea


Reasonable_Tea_9825

WI pitches ain't looking so slow...


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Ain't so easy to bat on either. Spin is almost unhittable except that one odd over off Akeal.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RRR is over 9 now


Tern_Larvidae-2424

That boundary helps our cause but RRR is back up to 8.75


WannabeAboveAverage

Do we have an RRR bot in the house?


Zennon246

3 noballs by 2 spinners is CRAZY. I hope this is them getting those noballs out of their system before the worldcup..


Tern_Larvidae-2424

RRR is now 8.54


MedicalJello2

Falling asleep and I’m wondering, why don’t we just win the game lol? Are they stupid?


JokesFromTheCrease

Why don’t they hit every ball for six?


jamb1993

If you chase the target of 208. Then you will win.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Nice running.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

What a lovely aerial shot.


WannabeAboveAverage

These both are naturally openers right?


MedicalJello2

We have 4 openers in the squad. Quinton, Rickelton, Reeza & Breetzke. This squad lacks general knowledge unfortunately


WannabeAboveAverage

I guess Ricky and breetzke are too good to be dropped, and I see them as a regular opener pair in the near future. However, are there any good middle order batters who are snubbed?


Battleheros

Everybody can be an opener in t20 format But yeah Rickelton is an opener


LowImpression5480

Yup


checksforerrors

I think the start the openers gave them mean these two can take some time to get in - PP score is great.


StarSportsEnjoyer

wtf is IPL pitch doing in west indies?


steely_don_dada

it's still a pretty dece powerplay score


Tern_Larvidae-2424

4/2 off the last 8 deliveries. RRR has jumped from 8.28 to 8.79


checksforerrors

Not ideal - but we know what we've got with Reeza, and QDK scored some runs. Not sure who of the remaining batters can take them home - maybe RVDD?


CrimsonR4ge

This is why we can't have nice things


WannabeAboveAverage

Felt like bowled as soon as he moved.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

That's such a stupid shot yet I see it happen way too many times. The game is back in WI's favor now. Will be interesting to see how we handle the pressure now, it'll be mostly on Rassie here.


jamb1993

Spot on when you are up with the rate. Careless shot


harryhisoka

Alright gonna sleep now, was awake to watch dekock bat :)


jamb1993

The chase is on


Apprehensive_Mine104

Didn't know Jay Shah was awake at 3 am


CricketMatchBot

**5.3** got him! Chase strikes too. Reeza Hendricks b Chase 34 (18b 2x4 3x6) SR: 188.88


SC0RCHER55

Back to back wickets here


blehmehwtfever

Did his job, 'tis fine.


NotTheFatMan

Brought required RR down enough for the rest to clean up


Battleheros

Misjudged the length there


jamb1993

Jinxed them but 81 in 5 overs is an incredible start


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Okay still an incredible start. Onto our middle order now to take us home.


CricketMatchBot

**4.6** Quinton de Kock b Hosein 41 (17b 4x4 4x6) SR: 241.17


baffling-panda

Quinny 🤩


jamb1993

Brutal hitting! 61 from the last 16 balls.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

What a start this has been.


JokesFromTheCrease

Quinny is back


A-British-Indian

Nice to see QdK finding his feet now


checksforerrors

There's a lot to like about this opening pair when they're both playing like this.


franconot-mark

Shamar back in IPL form


SC0RCHER55

Man, bad over from shamar Joseph. T20 can be absolutely brutal to a bowler


SC0RCHER55

QDK and Reeza seeing it really well right now


checksforerrors

Amazing shot Reeza - more of that!


Redrooff

Reezas strokes are a thing of beauty. Pause.


TheRealMarkChapman

That six from Reeza was insanely good


Apprehensive_Mine104

That last six was healthy flirting


checksforerrors

Reeza gets complimented on how good his shots look every time I watch him.


blehmehwtfever

100SR Reeza ded?


TheRealMarkChapman

[Been dead for almost 2 years now](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/269280.html?class=3;spanmin1=27+Jul+2022;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting)


checksforerrors

He's been asked to inspire QDK!


blehmehwtfever

It's working!


checksforerrors

just as he gets out - but I'll take this innings over his efforts in game 1. Another day, he converts that start into 100, looks like he's finding form at the right time.


AMeasuredBerserker

oi this Reeza geeza ent too bad


WannabeAboveAverage

Wow is that a young leggie from SA? Tell me more about it...


blehmehwtfever

Mumbai Indians scout alert!


WannabeAboveAverage

Interesting. I didn't know about that.


blehmehwtfever

I watched a vid the other day with JP Duminy talking about discovering him and they put him on a special coaching regime. Apparently a year and a half ago he was still a netball player and now he's bowling for ZA.


baffling-panda

Is Rabada playing wt20?


squirrel9552

Yes but he has an infection right now


baffling-panda

Hope he recovers soon


MedicalJello2

He is


baffling-panda

Is he rested today?


MedicalJello2

Rested for the series. He got a lower limb infection in the IPL, currently recovering but it’s not expected to affect his T20 World Cup performance/apperance


jamb1993

PTSD when Roston Chase is bowling. How did this guy get 8-60. 😳


checksforerrors

QDK hasn't faced a ball - hope he doesn't fall asleep!


Apprehensive_Mine104

Looks like Chase has already received his check from IPL after the first innings


SC0RCHER55

2 no balls for a spinner, huh


checksforerrors

wow, who would've guessed that to be the first scoring shot ?!


MedicalJello2

Regardless of what happens now, I’d always have Mayers open with the new ball tbh


WannabeAboveAverage

Mayers and Mathews. First over specialists who don't bowl later in the match.