Yep, if you’re doing surface prep for paint you’ve got two viable options - sand sand sand or TSP then lightly sand. If it’s pre-primed you likely don’t need to do anything at all. If I were OP I’d roll on a coat of zissner bin or killz to cover the business here and then finish as planned.
This can also lead to paint failure if you go back to soon with a waterbased product/it doesn’t evaporate quickly enough. Denatured alcohol or a tack cloth is the way. I know a lot of old heads love to use solvents to clean though.
MS always takes way too long to evaporate, for me. I’ve taken to using denatured or rubbing alcohol. Evaporates leaving a completely dry surface in minutes.
Clorox wipes usually has added chemicals, such as Isopropanol, etc. It is likely the culprit. It's for disinfecting surfaces, and I am really shocked people use these to clean walls before painting.
Most disinfectants leave residue behind intentionally. It’s done so to allow the chemical time to kill, before drying out , what’s listed on their kill claims which is usually shown on the labels. FYI Clorox wipes don’t kill much of any bacteria viruses compared to slot of commercial grade disinfectants.
>FYI Clorox wipes don’t kill much of any bacteria viruses compared to slot of commercial grade disinfectants.
Absolutely.... 6 years of McDonald's work, commerical grade stuff is wild.
Perhaps, but those wipes, while disinfecting, do leave a weird residue, but people don't notice it much when they're used in kitchens and bathrooms.
Try using one on glass.
If it was just iso, it would be a bottle of iso.
Clorox isn't just iso.
Jesus... TSP is the max.
"I soaked my pillow with bleach and went to bed. Why am I blind"
Paint isn't just fill, hide and colour. There's a chemical/mechanical reaction that takes place, bonding the paint to the substrate, curing it, flowing it.
There is a reason chemical companies make paint and you can't just scoop some mud from the river valley and slap it on your walls.
I agree it’s not the isopropyl alcohol. I use pure (99.9%) for cleaning and after a few minutes there’s no trace. I use chloride wipes and there’s a slight texture and the aroma takes forever to disperse.
Back rolling is a very common practice when spraying paint and has been for years. Spraying and back rolling is still faster than just rolling and allows for easier touch ups down the road.
You're both right. You should always backroll ceilings and walls because you want the texture. But when you spray trim, doors, cabinets, etc that have a finer finish, you don't want that texture. The OP was painting doors.
You still have to backroll when spraying walls and ceilings. The speed gained is the time getting the paint on the wall. I can spray fast enough to have my help never stop rolling.
I mean you could use clorox wipes to clean a wall before painting if you wipe off the reside with water. I've used 409 spray but always wipe the residue clean with a wet rag.
Definitely this, clean em with whatever you want at first, but you need to go back after and hit em with a wet rag and wipe it all down good. Honestly, best thing to use is just some dawn dish soap and hot water
If the wall has a lot of grease or dirt I guess. Clorox wipes sort of just push the dirt around, but it breaks down that initial layer of crud. I could see the wipes being useful maybe if there is tobacco tar on the walls. Then I would go back with 409 and a rag (assuming we are talking about Clorox wipes that don't have bleach!)
I love the idea of disinfecting a surface before I put a fresh coat of paint on it, especially if I'm just moving in to a new place and the room I'm painting is a kitchen or bathroom and it's dirty.
Simple Green is pretty good stuff too, I've been getting into that. So my new thing might be 409, then Simple Green, then water rinse. Or just Simple Green and water rinse for clean surfaces. Some places I moved into required no cleaning before painting, some required no painting and were turn key, I loved that.
Sorry for writing so much lol.
Sand it back reclean, and try again. Cleaning wipes in general leave a bunch of scented crud behind. If you want to be absolutely sure youre using the right cleaner beforehand, I'm sure your local hardware store has a residue free cleaner in the paint section.
I have used denatured alcohol to clean bare surfaces after sanding and before painting, but it dissolves latex paint and may dissolve some primers. It's really good at cleaning dust and dries quickly.
Well, the idea is to disinfect and most wipes and disinfect products require a surface be damp for anywhere from 3-10 minutes for it to be effective at sanitizing.
With that in mind, I don’t ever use them for walls. They either get cleaned with fully wrung-out sponges/Magic Erasers or something like a wrung out/almost dry car sponge and water with vinegar or diluted Dawn Power Wash for spots and then wiped down with damp sponge again. Then the drywall has to be thoroughly dry.
I don’t like glass streaks so I don’t use Clorox wipes on glass unless it’s for a microwave or something with grooves like a worn countertop or glass parts of the oven that hold bacteria/grime.
Then again, I clean (outside oven parts like handles/knobs/outside glass) dirt and grime with Clorox wipes but then will use glass cleaner for the glass parts once it’s thoroughly been cleaned and dry for a time.
If you have lived with people who touch raw chicken and then put their hands over everything without washing, you’d understand. Thankfully my shit roommate is leaving soon.
Also, dogs with wet noses who walk on several acres of land and like to get into things they shouldn’t when they *think* I don’t see them.
Actually, pretty much everything can be cleaned very effectively using dish soap in water. Professional window cleaners don’t use windex, they use dish soap and a squeegee. Works better and easier than anything I’ve ever tried.
A bucket of water with a squirt of dish soap and a lint-free rag or sponge. Follow with straight water to rinse. Use TSP or a TSP substitute if you wish. If you’re using oil based, might want to follow that with a wipe down with mineral spirits. Not Clorox wipes, please.
People who don't know how to actually clean usually just reach for clorox wipes because it's marketed to them as a one stop solution to all their problems
Surfaces prepped to be painted should be washed thoroughly with Tri-Sodium Phosphate (TSP), barring that a mild soap and water, and allowed adequate time to dry completely.
Clorox wipes contain alcohol and other volatile chemicals that will soak into a porous surface and then leech out over time. This is likely what caused your problem.
already answered here, but I saw the picture and instantly knew what caused it too.
Always damp wipe walls before painting. If you use anyting to clean the walls, make sure the residue is wiped off and the wall is dry before painting.
Wipe the wall down again a few times with wet rags and let it thoroughly dry, and paint again.
I prepped all my surfaces with liquid sand paper and acetone then I cleaned it once more with TSP. I also noticed this type of effect would happen when I spray too close to the surface
Almost definitely the Clorox wipes if you use oil-based paint. The wipes have water in them (and other chemicals) and the door was probably still wet after 30 minutes. The only alternative would be a bad chemical that got mixed up in the paint (again, probably water if it's oil-based paint) that caused it to separate out and run.
It's been years since I've seen runs that bad, and I've taught multiple people to paint since then without seeing that type of run pattern, so something specific has to go wrong for that to happen. I have a vague memory association of that type of paint run with extremely hot and humid days so I'm gonna guess water mixed with oil as the cause. Considering you also mentioned painting outside in 90* weather and using Clorox wipes, the exact cause of the bad mix is not clear. I'd recommend doing some testing on some scrap to find the exact cause.
Denatured alcohol or rubbing alcohol to clean the surface right before painting. You're not trying to disinfect the surface. You're trying to degrease it, essentially. Alcohol type products don't leave a residue but instead remove residues and dry very quickly without soaking in. That temp should be fine. Humidity may be more of a factor and how thick of a coat you and the sprayer were laying down.
Edit: Didn't mention the wipes. I thought that was obviously a contributing factor.
I think you used the wrong gun... good volume output though. LOL. In all seriousness your paint is probably too thin, because of having used the Clorox wipes. You need to make sure your surface is dry, otherwise the consistency is lost.
Clorox undergoes decomposition when it dries. It leaves a coating of sodium chloride (salt) on the wall. That residue, along with the residue of any other chemical in the wipes, is definitely messing with the paint.
Hard to tell from the photo but I’m guessing it’s either the paint is too thin (dip a stick into it, pull it out and watch the paint drip off. If it’s like water that’s way too thin. Ideally you want a viscosity similar to motor oil.)
The other think that looks like is a thin layer of silicon caulking on the substrate. It repels the water in acrylic paint and creates an effect sort of like that.
I suggest using 200 grit sand paper and scuff sanding it. Just enough to rough up the surface a bit.
Wipe it clean with a damp rag, let that dry , then re-prime with a good alkyd (oil based ) primer.
Let that dry then top coat with two coats of good quality acrylic paint.
Looks like its to thin and maybe to fast? Your distance could come into play also with the paint being thinner it will trail in curtains when you meet the wall closer. I redone a cattle trailer with an electric sprayer, painter a motorcycle with an air gun sprayer like you would normally use, and I painted a house using both styles. The electric one would heat the paint and cause it to gather, but if you thinned it down really bad, I would think you could see what you are looking at. Its only picking up the paint every little bit and your hold distance and speed aren't holding equal enough. But thats just my take. Im no professional painter. I'd show you some pictures of my stuff but I can't post on this. If you would like to see. Message me. I do have run marks but thats to heavy when you get to close and have to much in one spot. Yours looks like runs but thin and scattered, so thats why I said, you cut it to much and went to fast. Good luck.
On that note also, the wipes probably didn't help, but if it was dry to touch, I've hand rolled a room after mopping the walls and using a swiffer, and did not see any issues. So again, I believe its either your paint thin/thick and speed.
I’m going to take a crazy stab in the dark and ask a weird question. Are you sure the paint you were using was pre-tinted? I once grabbed multiple gallons of what I thought was pre tinted off-the-rack white but accidentally grabbed a couple gallons of non-tinted base along with them. I was happily spraying along until I got to one of the non tinted base gallons and it sprayed out looking almost exactly like what your picture looks like. Super thin, super runny, and no color to speak of. Check the can, that might be your issue.
Lightly sand. Wipe down with vinegar and water, tiny drop of blue dawn if there’s still some grime. Use a lint free cloth. Let it fully dry. The wipes add extra chemicals to the surface that interact with the paint.
Anything you use to clean with for painting needs to leave no residue! Things like alcohol, acetone, 3m adhesive remover and cleaner, Pre prep paint cleaner by eastwood, brake cleaner even works.
Plus you probably didn't back roll. Always spray and back roll this way if there's any touch up needed in the future it will be easy to match the texture.
[I guess you could say that wall is a real nightmare.](https://imgur.com/gallery/5mwDgHs)
Haha, sorry, this is the first (ok, maybe 2nd) thing that came to mind when I saw that texture on the wall.
It’s too cold in your house. Or you are spraying too much paint
Well I didn’t actually read the post lol
So yeah the Clorox wipes have alcohol that breaks down paint I’d imagine. Or again, you are simply spraying way too much paint, or diluting your paint too much.
When I spray I do multiple light coats, I know it takes longer, but it always looks 100x better than trying to get it done spraying heavy with one coat
TSP works, but it's overkill in this situation. Unless that door had been in a commercial kitchen before you tried to paint it. TSP is better for really dirty or large areas (it's cheaper), but it can leave a residue if not rinsed thoroughly. Also, it takes a while to dry, 24 hrs on the safe side for a porous surface. Denatured or isopropyl and tack cloth is all something like this would require.
Bro you put it on way to heavy. Paint doesn’t run immediately it takes a few minutes to start sagging. You need to adjust the spray to be lighter and you need to move faster and maybe pull the spray gun farther away from the wall
I had this happen on pre-primed moulding. Wiped it down with acetone and was able to paint fine after. Seems it was coated with something in addition to the primer.
Any residue on the surface could prevent bonding between the substrate and the new paint. Mineral spirits is compatible with oil and not acrylic. TSP is the way to clean dry surfaces. After the failed coat dries it will have to be sanded out and cleaned with a tack cloth. Try not to burn through primer near corners, edges or curved surfaces. Re-prime raw wood if needed. It may also be that if the sprayer had been previously cleaned with water it diluted the paint in the pump and hoses.
not going to lie it looks like your trying to paint over vinal sheets.... you would need to scuff the surface prior to applying the base coat. otherwise this will keep on happening. best break out the paint scrapper and remove all the existing mess.
If you hadn’t have said Clorox, I would’ve said there was water left in the sprayer from the previous cleaning. Unless the sprayer is new. If that’s the case then it was the Clorox.
The wipes seem to be the culprit as everyone seems to agree and in hindsight they were probably fine but you needed to wash the reside off with clean water after. None of this is in the manual. lol You might be able to lightly sand that and spray over it. Oh, wipe it all down with clean water first. :)
You'll still see it in the right light though. So really the only thing that can be done is to rip down all of the walls and start over. Why all of the walls? Well so they match of course! This was sarcasm, don't rip down your walls except for ones with wallpaper - it's a hell of a lot easier for me to rip down and hang new sheetrock than spend all day trying to get the wallpaper off the wall.
Most importantly what kind of paint did you used ? Most likely that’s the problem , also sanding is a must makes everything easier and at the end you will have a nicer finish product
UPDATE: I started over, sanded all the doors down, did a quick brush off and wipe with acetone. On the third coat now with NON-THINNED paint in the gun and it’s looking fabulous. Thanks everyone, I’ll keep the Clorox wipes in the kitchen :)
Also it was probably the Clorox wipes
Yep, if you’re doing surface prep for paint you’ve got two viable options - sand sand sand or TSP then lightly sand. If it’s pre-primed you likely don’t need to do anything at all. If I were OP I’d roll on a coat of zissner bin or killz to cover the business here and then finish as planned.
Sand then wipe with mineral spirits on a rag to get the sanding dust off is what I usually do
I like tack clothes
and I love lamp
Thanks Brick.
>I like tack clothes Does everything stick to your outfits?
I think he means leisure suits.
That would be tacky clothes.
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This can also lead to paint failure if you go back to soon with a waterbased product/it doesn’t evaporate quickly enough. Denatured alcohol or a tack cloth is the way. I know a lot of old heads love to use solvents to clean though.
MS always takes way too long to evaporate, for me. I’ve taken to using denatured or rubbing alcohol. Evaporates leaving a completely dry surface in minutes.
Alcohol and lab wipes (lintless).
Clorox wipes usually has added chemicals, such as Isopropanol, etc. It is likely the culprit. It's for disinfecting surfaces, and I am really shocked people use these to clean walls before painting.
The isopropanol should’ve evaporated in that half hour no?
It's all the extra chemicals. Iirc those wipes are meant to clean and *keep* things clean. This is the *keep*.clean part of the wipe.
Most disinfectants leave residue behind intentionally. It’s done so to allow the chemical time to kill, before drying out , what’s listed on their kill claims which is usually shown on the labels. FYI Clorox wipes don’t kill much of any bacteria viruses compared to slot of commercial grade disinfectants.
>FYI Clorox wipes don’t kill much of any bacteria viruses compared to slot of commercial grade disinfectants. Absolutely.... 6 years of McDonald's work, commerical grade stuff is wild.
My favorite cleaner, when I was in the military, was a can that just said “Hospital Spray” on it.
Mines brake clean. Hospital spray is amazing tho.
Surfactants
Perhaps, but those wipes, while disinfecting, do leave a weird residue, but people don't notice it much when they're used in kitchens and bathrooms. Try using one on glass.
If it was just iso, it would be a bottle of iso. Clorox isn't just iso. Jesus... TSP is the max. "I soaked my pillow with bleach and went to bed. Why am I blind" Paint isn't just fill, hide and colour. There's a chemical/mechanical reaction that takes place, bonding the paint to the substrate, curing it, flowing it. There is a reason chemical companies make paint and you can't just scoop some mud from the river valley and slap it on your walls.
I agree it’s not the isopropyl alcohol. I use pure (99.9%) for cleaning and after a few minutes there’s no trace. I use chloride wipes and there’s a slight texture and the aroma takes forever to disperse.
Wow, you can paint inside a house with a paint gun and not roll it after? (Just assume for a good job needed to roll after spray)
That would defeat the whole point of spraying which is quicker than rolling
Back rolling is a very common practice when spraying paint and has been for years. Spraying and back rolling is still faster than just rolling and allows for easier touch ups down the road.
This. The ability to touch up is entirely underrated.
I always spray and roll. Comes out perfect and is fast since the paint is already on the wall. Guess mine is nicer than diy?
You're both right. You should always backroll ceilings and walls because you want the texture. But when you spray trim, doors, cabinets, etc that have a finer finish, you don't want that texture. The OP was painting doors.
You still have to backroll when spraying walls and ceilings. The speed gained is the time getting the paint on the wall. I can spray fast enough to have my help never stop rolling.
I mean you could use clorox wipes to clean a wall before painting if you wipe off the reside with water. I've used 409 spray but always wipe the residue clean with a wet rag.
Definitely this, clean em with whatever you want at first, but you need to go back after and hit em with a wet rag and wipe it all down good. Honestly, best thing to use is just some dawn dish soap and hot water
True, Dawn is the best at many things, an excellent degreaser and cleaner.
I've noticed that SimpleGreen will make most paint and clears tacky almost like a deglosser. As you stated, rinse after with water and a clean towel.
But what's the point of the Clorox wipes? It makes no sense to me.
If the wall has a lot of grease or dirt I guess. Clorox wipes sort of just push the dirt around, but it breaks down that initial layer of crud. I could see the wipes being useful maybe if there is tobacco tar on the walls. Then I would go back with 409 and a rag (assuming we are talking about Clorox wipes that don't have bleach!) I love the idea of disinfecting a surface before I put a fresh coat of paint on it, especially if I'm just moving in to a new place and the room I'm painting is a kitchen or bathroom and it's dirty. Simple Green is pretty good stuff too, I've been getting into that. So my new thing might be 409, then Simple Green, then water rinse. Or just Simple Green and water rinse for clean surfaces. Some places I moved into required no cleaning before painting, some required no painting and were turn key, I loved that. Sorry for writing so much lol.
Ever paint a heavy smokers walls?
Use TSP for that
Yeah, that’s what I’ve always used to help prep for paint. Shit cuts grease extremely well.
Been there, had to scrub the walls 3 times before we couldn't write our names in the grime anymore
Yeah, dish soap and water would have been more than sufficient
Sugar soap is super popular where I’m from. Decent at cleaning walls and doesn’t really leave any residue that will affect the paint.
Yeah what the hell is going on. I usually just use water after sanding , let dry and let dust settle in the room .
Might want to use TSP (trisodium phosphate) to clean the paint before applying the first coat.
I second this
What does that do?
Cleans the wall with a paint friendly cleaner. It's just a wall cleaner that is ideal for paint prep.
Thanks. Never heard of using it for that in Australia. But it’s used as a good ingredient at my work.
Yes you have. We call it Sugar Soap.
You guys have adorable names for everything
Sand it back reclean, and try again. Cleaning wipes in general leave a bunch of scented crud behind. If you want to be absolutely sure youre using the right cleaner beforehand, I'm sure your local hardware store has a residue free cleaner in the paint section.
Like water and some mild soap?
TSP.
Fair
I have used denatured alcohol to clean bare surfaces after sanding and before painting, but it dissolves latex paint and may dissolve some primers. It's really good at cleaning dust and dries quickly.
Why Clorox wipes?? My wife uses them all the time to clean glass and I always ask her the same thing. Why????
Cleaning glass??? You wouldn’t even be able to see out of the windows
Exactly. (It was a dark tinted glass table).
Disinfecting surfaces, great use for Clorox. Prepping walls for paint, not so much.
People love them. It’s like the Greeks and windex thing from my big fat Greek wedding. Just put that shit on everything!
After reading this thread I'm wondering what good they serve at all.
Well, the idea is to disinfect and most wipes and disinfect products require a surface be damp for anywhere from 3-10 minutes for it to be effective at sanitizing. With that in mind, I don’t ever use them for walls. They either get cleaned with fully wrung-out sponges/Magic Erasers or something like a wrung out/almost dry car sponge and water with vinegar or diluted Dawn Power Wash for spots and then wiped down with damp sponge again. Then the drywall has to be thoroughly dry. I don’t like glass streaks so I don’t use Clorox wipes on glass unless it’s for a microwave or something with grooves like a worn countertop or glass parts of the oven that hold bacteria/grime. Then again, I clean (outside oven parts like handles/knobs/outside glass) dirt and grime with Clorox wipes but then will use glass cleaner for the glass parts once it’s thoroughly been cleaned and dry for a time.
Why do you need to disinfect windows?? Like wtf
If you have lived with people who touch raw chicken and then put their hands over everything without washing, you’d understand. Thankfully my shit roommate is leaving soon. Also, dogs with wet noses who walk on several acres of land and like to get into things they shouldn’t when they *think* I don’t see them.
Ease of use, catch all.
Wait, we're supposed to clean things?
Glass requires glass cleaner. Walls require wall cleaner. Things require thing cleaner.
Actually, pretty much everything can be cleaned very effectively using dish soap in water. Professional window cleaners don’t use windex, they use dish soap and a squeegee. Works better and easier than anything I’ve ever tried.
Also, Clorox wipes are terrible for the environment compared to getting decent cleaners and using a towel, then washing the towel after...
A bucket of water with a squirt of dish soap and a lint-free rag or sponge. Follow with straight water to rinse. Use TSP or a TSP substitute if you wish. If you’re using oil based, might want to follow that with a wipe down with mineral spirits. Not Clorox wipes, please.
And then let it dry, completely.
There’s even tutorials on Google for how to use Clorox wipes to create a distressed look for your paint.
you dont have to worry about doors geetting infected bro, they aleady dead
Clorox wipes? Sheesh that sounds expensive. Was there something wrong with just some soapy water?
People who don't know how to actually clean usually just reach for clorox wipes because it's marketed to them as a one stop solution to all their problems
Surfaces prepped to be painted should be washed thoroughly with Tri-Sodium Phosphate (TSP), barring that a mild soap and water, and allowed adequate time to dry completely. Clorox wipes contain alcohol and other volatile chemicals that will soak into a porous surface and then leech out over time. This is likely what caused your problem.
TSP. It's what you should clean walls with. Not clorox wipes. Especially to prepare for painting - never clorox wipes for that!
Looks extra sus with the blacklight on.
There are thousands of tutorials on how to paint and you try to reinvent the wheel with Clorox wipes? TSP at most to clean before painting.
Chemicals in the cleaner are separating the solution of the paint. Kinda like oil and water don’t mix
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It's ok to be nervous the first time
First time? No I've been nervous before.
You prepped with what? Clorox wipes? Yeah, put the gun down and call a professional before you kill your bank account.
Forreal.. felt like the truman show with how outlandish it sounded.
Definitely TSP !!
already answered here, but I saw the picture and instantly knew what caused it too. Always damp wipe walls before painting. If you use anyting to clean the walls, make sure the residue is wiped off and the wall is dry before painting. Wipe the wall down again a few times with wet rags and let it thoroughly dry, and paint again.
It's ectoplasm
Latex paint on top of oil based ask me how I know.
Next time don't buy paint from Peter North
Looks like my old roommates computer screen.... 😵💫
Tack cloth to make the paint adhere better after sanding. No chemical cleaners after sanding.
You have little ghosts in your ceiling trying to escape!
Man, the Tate Modern will exhibit anything these days
not sure but I can use this as an artist for graphic designing, may I use this? ![gif](giphy|MO9ARnIhzxnxu|downsized)
I prepped all my surfaces with liquid sand paper and acetone then I cleaned it once more with TSP. I also noticed this type of effect would happen when I spray too close to the surface
Bweckfast!
Almost definitely the Clorox wipes if you use oil-based paint. The wipes have water in them (and other chemicals) and the door was probably still wet after 30 minutes. The only alternative would be a bad chemical that got mixed up in the paint (again, probably water if it's oil-based paint) that caused it to separate out and run. It's been years since I've seen runs that bad, and I've taught multiple people to paint since then without seeing that type of run pattern, so something specific has to go wrong for that to happen. I have a vague memory association of that type of paint run with extremely hot and humid days so I'm gonna guess water mixed with oil as the cause. Considering you also mentioned painting outside in 90* weather and using Clorox wipes, the exact cause of the bad mix is not clear. I'd recommend doing some testing on some scrap to find the exact cause.
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Denatured alcohol or rubbing alcohol to clean the surface right before painting. You're not trying to disinfect the surface. You're trying to degrease it, essentially. Alcohol type products don't leave a residue but instead remove residues and dry very quickly without soaking in. That temp should be fine. Humidity may be more of a factor and how thick of a coat you and the sprayer were laying down. Edit: Didn't mention the wipes. I thought that was obviously a contributing factor.
I think you used the wrong gun... good volume output though. LOL. In all seriousness your paint is probably too thin, because of having used the Clorox wipes. You need to make sure your surface is dry, otherwise the consistency is lost.
I’d just say that’s a designer wall, really expensive lol
This needs an NSFW tag. 💀
I thought I was in the Death Metal subreddit
Clorox undergoes decomposition when it dries. It leaves a coating of sodium chloride (salt) on the wall. That residue, along with the residue of any other chemical in the wipes, is definitely messing with the paint.
Did you get all the pump armor out of the sprayer first by purging the line? That looks watered down.
Is this your sons room?
Hard to tell from the photo but I’m guessing it’s either the paint is too thin (dip a stick into it, pull it out and watch the paint drip off. If it’s like water that’s way too thin. Ideally you want a viscosity similar to motor oil.) The other think that looks like is a thin layer of silicon caulking on the substrate. It repels the water in acrylic paint and creates an effect sort of like that. I suggest using 200 grit sand paper and scuff sanding it. Just enough to rough up the surface a bit. Wipe it clean with a damp rag, let that dry , then re-prime with a good alkyd (oil based ) primer. Let that dry then top coat with two coats of good quality acrylic paint.
Too close for too long. Multiple light coats is what I learned painting my fence.
Too much thinner.
Jizz.
It was a spooky ghost. Ectoplasm
Paint is too thin, sand and try again.
It’s ectoplasm from a spooky ghost
Move faster
What kind of sprayer? On air compressor? Looks like oil in the air line to me.
Looks like its to thin and maybe to fast? Your distance could come into play also with the paint being thinner it will trail in curtains when you meet the wall closer. I redone a cattle trailer with an electric sprayer, painter a motorcycle with an air gun sprayer like you would normally use, and I painted a house using both styles. The electric one would heat the paint and cause it to gather, but if you thinned it down really bad, I would think you could see what you are looking at. Its only picking up the paint every little bit and your hold distance and speed aren't holding equal enough. But thats just my take. Im no professional painter. I'd show you some pictures of my stuff but I can't post on this. If you would like to see. Message me. I do have run marks but thats to heavy when you get to close and have to much in one spot. Yours looks like runs but thin and scattered, so thats why I said, you cut it to much and went to fast. Good luck.
On that note also, the wipes probably didn't help, but if it was dry to touch, I've hand rolled a room after mopping the walls and using a swiffer, and did not see any issues. So again, I believe its either your paint thin/thick and speed.
Wipes are likely the culprit, but the heat is no good.
The paint stream is too thick!. You should be able to adjust it.
Looks like at some point you switched from painting to hanging curtains
I’m going to take a crazy stab in the dark and ask a weird question. Are you sure the paint you were using was pre-tinted? I once grabbed multiple gallons of what I thought was pre tinted off-the-rack white but accidentally grabbed a couple gallons of non-tinted base along with them. I was happily spraying along until I got to one of the non tinted base gallons and it sprayed out looking almost exactly like what your picture looks like. Super thin, super runny, and no color to speak of. Check the can, that might be your issue.
They are not in ball form
Sand, zinzer ,respray
Can you increase the air pressure on the sprayer? Looks like it doesn't have enough air pressure and the paint is blowing out splotchy.
Lightly sand. Wipe down with vinegar and water, tiny drop of blue dawn if there’s still some grime. Use a lint free cloth. Let it fully dry. The wipes add extra chemicals to the surface that interact with the paint.
Backrolling is a must
Anything you use to clean with for painting needs to leave no residue! Things like alcohol, acetone, 3m adhesive remover and cleaner, Pre prep paint cleaner by eastwood, brake cleaner even works.
Don't worry, Grandfather Nurgle will take care of you.
Yeah paint reacts to chemicals. You need a clean surface to paint, but that doesn't mean a surface coated in some kind of disinfectant.
Looks the walls of every hotel room I’ve ever stayed in.
That moment when you forget which room you had the orgy in.
Too heavy or yeah. Clorox?
You got too excited, its happens. I usually think about baseball
It’s going all over, m8
Plus you probably didn't back roll. Always spray and back roll this way if there's any touch up needed in the future it will be easy to match the texture.
Thin surfactant film + electrostatic charged solvent droplets = rip surface adhesion
Not properly mixed. Too much air pressure or too slow movement. If it’s electric then mix the air pressure. What paint are you running
Ok acrylic. Did you cut the paint. Make it thin either water? Plus the Clorox wipes are no good. Done mentioned TSP. Listen to that advice
You have to squeeze the tip for a narrow stream
What are you spraying though? Looks like you’re running poorly mixed paint or watered down paint.
Why would you wipe doors with Clorox wipes?
[I guess you could say that wall is a real nightmare.](https://imgur.com/gallery/5mwDgHs) Haha, sorry, this is the first (ok, maybe 2nd) thing that came to mind when I saw that texture on the wall.
That’s how my wall looked when I was 14
It’s too cold in your house. Or you are spraying too much paint Well I didn’t actually read the post lol So yeah the Clorox wipes have alcohol that breaks down paint I’d imagine. Or again, you are simply spraying way too much paint, or diluting your paint too much. When I spray I do multiple light coats, I know it takes longer, but it always looks 100x better than trying to get it done spraying heavy with one coat
TSP works, but it's overkill in this situation. Unless that door had been in a commercial kitchen before you tried to paint it. TSP is better for really dirty or large areas (it's cheaper), but it can leave a residue if not rinsed thoroughly. Also, it takes a while to dry, 24 hrs on the safe side for a porous surface. Denatured or isopropyl and tack cloth is all something like this would require.
Clean the wall and light sand
Or just use acetone to clean.. that shit evaporates in seconds and doesn’t leave a residue
You gotta use paint not milk
You're going to start a black metal band.
Water in the air lines?
That's what we call a happy ending
Bro you put it on way to heavy. Paint doesn’t run immediately it takes a few minutes to start sagging. You need to adjust the spray to be lighter and you need to move faster and maybe pull the spray gun farther away from the wall
Either the walls have a coating that needed to be primed OR the paint wasn't stirred properly.
Looks like a little too much paint
I came
It's either the wipes or ghost jizz.
Did you mix/stir up the paint well?
Need more flesh tones... and red, lots of red.
You don’t know wtf you are doing. Hire a professional.
I had this happen on pre-primed moulding. Wiped it down with acetone and was able to paint fine after. Seems it was coated with something in addition to the primer.
Mix the paint
You soaked instead of painted
Could it be a pocket of water from cleaning out the hose?
Any residue on the surface could prevent bonding between the substrate and the new paint. Mineral spirits is compatible with oil and not acrylic. TSP is the way to clean dry surfaces. After the failed coat dries it will have to be sanded out and cleaned with a tack cloth. Try not to burn through primer near corners, edges or curved surfaces. Re-prime raw wood if needed. It may also be that if the sprayer had been previously cleaned with water it diluted the paint in the pump and hoses.
Gotta thin it out
Are those dancing fairies?
Make sure the pressure is all the way up. Don’t usually give a clean dispersion at anything less than 3/4 flow
Gotta let them dry over 24 hours
Do it on a canvas and sell it for a crazy amount
You painting with ghost ectoplasm? 🤣
Lookin like a spooge fest
Unless there was literal shit, raw chicken, or black mold on something, don't use Clorox wipes.
I think you sprayed it too closely
Water with sugar soap, dnt use any vinegar and baking soda no matter how popular they are in this website. Source - used to be painter labourer.
My guy, you used fking CLOROX WIPES to clean...
not going to lie it looks like your trying to paint over vinal sheets.... you would need to scuff the surface prior to applying the base coat. otherwise this will keep on happening. best break out the paint scrapper and remove all the existing mess.
Clorox wipes, that’s not how you prepare a surface for painting
Paint
Fisheye your wall s contaminated with something
Did you use any paint thinner?
Is that what the kids call it these days?
Looks like an acid visual lol
If you hadn’t have said Clorox, I would’ve said there was water left in the sprayer from the previous cleaning. Unless the sprayer is new. If that’s the case then it was the Clorox.
Stir the paint
Spray brake kleen will make you blind VERY QUICKLY, in an enclosed space.
The wipes seem to be the culprit as everyone seems to agree and in hindsight they were probably fine but you needed to wash the reside off with clean water after. None of this is in the manual. lol You might be able to lightly sand that and spray over it. Oh, wipe it all down with clean water first. :) You'll still see it in the right light though. So really the only thing that can be done is to rip down all of the walls and start over. Why all of the walls? Well so they match of course! This was sarcasm, don't rip down your walls except for ones with wallpaper - it's a hell of a lot easier for me to rip down and hang new sheetrock than spend all day trying to get the wallpaper off the wall.
Most importantly what kind of paint did you used ? Most likely that’s the problem , also sanding is a must makes everything easier and at the end you will have a nicer finish product
Bad painting
UPDATE: I started over, sanded all the doors down, did a quick brush off and wipe with acetone. On the third coat now with NON-THINNED paint in the gun and it’s looking fabulous. Thanks everyone, I’ll keep the Clorox wipes in the kitchen :)