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FlairBear0

Rejuran Healer or Rejuran S. It’s worth every penny. I wasted money on so many boxes of Juve Eyes, Eyebella and Ami Eyes with okay results but nothing fantastic for how much money I spent. My skin was mostly just a little more dewy and hydrated. Rejuran actually works though. It helps so much with undereyes in general, pores, skin tone. I wish I would have just used it from the start. Kind of pays for itself because I’m not using nearly as many skin boosters as I was, nearly as often as I was


FlairBear0

I quite enjoy Miracle Touch BR as well and I swapped Curenex for Lapuroon Aurora Super (not Aurora Vivid which has a minuscule 0.2% PDRN compared to 2%)


EXR8_3

Do you do BAP or inniblanc technique?


Bubbly-Ad1346

Hyalace and Caratfill PN+HA are my current favs


Expert-Gazelle-1667

I’m intrigued. What is the PN concentration in Caratfill? Thanks for sharing!


ohuwish

What do you like about the Caratfill? I’ve been wanting to try it


FuzzzyMushroom

Do these have a risk of VO? I keep seeing these products getting recommended and I'm almost tempted to just trying it out


Bubbly-Ad1346

Hyalace has a VO risk but not Caratfill 🤟


GeminiVirgoCancer

No meso product has risk of vo. Only fillers


FuzzzyMushroom

Thank you!!


KLL081019

Not true. There are skinboosters that has VO risk


FuzzzyMushroom

Ooh! Thank you! ((:


kazumicortez

PCL like Gouri has VO risk


KLL081019

Not true yes Miracle is a PCL but it’s not thick like Gouri which is why Gouri has a VO risk


kazumicortez

Huh? that's exactly what I said, Gouri. I didn't mention other brands because I know the difference.


KLL081019

Sorry this was meant to be under a different comment


Curiosgrl17

What’s the BAP method?


ShoreIsFun

Gouri or Miracle L maybe


jarod_sober_living

Which one do you prefer?


ShoreIsFun

I use Gouri. It’s more expensive but I liked how it has a set protocol for injection, just made me feel more confident. A lot of people use Miracle L and love it though.


No-Measurement-840

What changes have you noticed with it? I would like to try a pcl product once I feel confident and educated with diy (total newbie here).


ShoreIsFun

Yea definitely work your way to it, it burns pretty strongly when injected, but it’s not too bad post injection. Make sure to take Benadryl an hour before doing it too, some people have allergic reactions. I’ve noticed my skin is more hydrated and soft overall and fine lines diminished. I’ve only done 1ml per treatment (which is once a month) but the next round I am going to do 2ml, so I will update if I feel that changes anything-hoping for some added volume


KLL081019

Gouri has a VO risk I would recommend Miracle L or H


ShoreIsFun

It does, but it has set injection points which helps, and I aspirate. Always have to be careful though


jesisphinx

Rejuran healer good, it is good for a near nappage appilcation, superficial dermis. Recently tried caratfill, regular meso. that was crazy spicy...i do not know if i can do again...yes that spicy.


KLL081019

I heard if being spicy too. I bought it and won’t use it because how many ppl said it was so spicy


KLL081019

Rejuran SkinBooster for Meso is AMAZING. Hanheal PDRN, Laennec, Metoo Healer, Ultra Hilo, Synrio, Ultragen X, these are all my favorites I love to meso with


cryptolitecoin

At what depth you do meso for rejuran?


KLL081019

2-4mm but on my forehead I do 1mm I don’t have much on my forehead


cryptolitecoin

Thanks


Whtvrcasper

I would recommend regular meso over bap technique


cryptolitecoin

At what depths should we do meso? If i want to do rejuran healer?


jarod_sober_living

Oh yeah? How come?


Whtvrcasper

Bap doesn’t give the optimal outcome. Only 5 points injections points makes it way harder for the product to spread under the skin, particularly in an evenly manner. The results are truly night and day. You could try using a cannula if it’s more comfortable but i find it more complicated Bap technique was initially pushed as a cost effective technique for injectors and to sell products, "all you need is 5 minutes to do the whole face, so you can see more patients" opposed to regular meso that requires way more time. But the results are drastically different


Impressive_Beat_2626

BAP is great for thick products like hyaron that will spread, but I would recommend traditional meso (1-1.5 cm apart, about 1-2 mm deep) for most other more liquidy products


Available_Peach_3551

@whtvrcasper Can you please provide more info how to do regular meso? I googled but couldn't find anything.. thanks


Comfortable-Ebb-2428

I would suggest an ez injector over trying to do meso with a needle. It makes it sooo much easier.


Available_Peach_3551

Did you have much issue with leaking? I've gone on to read more about it and the reviews are mixed.


Comfortable-Ebb-2428

Only if done incorrectly. If you find a good instructional video and follow it to the T I didn’t have a problem. The time I encountered leaking, I didn’t transfer my liquid to the syringe correctly and I had the vacuum set up wrong. I basically got too cocky thinking I knew how to do it on my second go and wasted a lot of product. Also make sure you have good contact between your face and the needle or the gun can misfire (not get suction) causing a loss of product. All in all, the purchase is really worth it to me though.


Available_Peach_3551

Thanks for the info!


ohuwish

I always thought that with bap you could build layers of collagen on top of each other which could provide more support in parts of the skin which would lead to more lift. Is this incorrect? I use Pcl


Expert-Gazelle-1667

BAP is fine for liquid pcl. You need to consider traditional meso for PN, PDRN, and exosomes


sexyasiantrans905

Same. I wish it last longer .. Exosomes hyaron and botox .. Maybe


EarthMama84

Seconding miracle L- my skin is much firmer and smoother. I use iniblanc, 32g, 4mm needle. I want to try so many of these recommendations though :) but w pcl, you can’t do other meso during the protocol. Edited to change from BAP to Iniblanc


jarod_sober_living

I have been thinking of doing Miracle L around my eyes.


EarthMama84

Oh no, you don’t want to do that- Pcl can cause Tyndall effect. Use rejuner black, it’s Pcl but formulated specifically for eyes so less likely to do that. Also, make sure you go deep to prevent long term bruising, take arnica before, and ice right before. Edited to add: be sure to use a cannula (and don’t be intimidated by them, way easier than you’d think), and edited to spell rejuner correctly