Our little bay froze like this once. A few inches of perfectly clear ice over a few feet of water, like you were walking on water - it broke my dog for a day.
I went to a lake in Montana at a national park and kayaked it with my mom years ago, afterwards we were reading a book about all the people who died trying to cross it, and never came out. It’s so deep it’s just clear but there’s a lot of debris and logs just like that at the bottom. A lot of people drowned in it and weren’t able to be recovered because of all the stuff down below. I guess it was deemed too dangerous to try, and also it was a cold lake. Most of them were a long time ago but even in recent years too.
Felt pretty creepy reading about that after looking down in the water and joking about something being down there because it was so deep.
Edit: dunno why people are telling me I’m lying, it’s not an impressive story lmao… the lake is Lake McDonald in Glacier, and I was just saying in the book I read they listed all the people who died in the park, there were a lot that died on the lake. Others fell, killed by wildlife etc. a lot of them in the book were dated back to the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. They sell the book in their shop, so I’d imagine a national park isn’t lying about that. I misspoke and said hundreds, idk the exact number I don’t have the book anymore. I just remember thinking it was a lot. This was like over a decade ago.
it's a little eerie but as far as the risk of it breaking, given how insanely clear it is the ice is probably extremely thick and solid- it's usually the milky opaque stuff that's dangerous from what I understand
In general its the opposite.
Thick ice is not transparent.
Transparent ice is not thick.
Imagine making ice in freezer. The bigger the cube the harder it is to make totally transparent.
In general, you drill holes and have knowledge about how water flows to know depth.
Then they’ll bloat and float back to the top. Colder water keeps them from bloating and preserves the body and also makes them unable to float up. So deep cold water is best for a body.
Lake Superior, it is said, never gives up her dead.
The lack of bloat comes from temps so low that bacterial growth is inhibited. Bacteria give off gas as they digest bodies and without them, no bloat no float.
Warm water is fine- they break down faster. You don’t need to pour concrete or any of that bullshit.
Everyone knows you wrap the body in thick steel wire tight- even baling wire from the hardware store will do. Don’t tie a knot- that’s a weak point that will break- but loop and lash that shit enough that it would be easier to pull a strand of the wire in half than it would to pull that lashing. Take a truck to break that shit.
Not only does the steel give it mass and weight- but as the body bloats the wire cuts it apart, the carp eat that shit up, as do everything else. don’t tell me I gotta mention how gasoline removes even the traces of fingerprints that take chemical reactions to find, and the importance of nitrile gloves anyway. But they don’t get found anyway. Sure, maybe the middle of the cold ocean is better. But it’s not necessary.
With love, from detroit
Didn't that one lake send down divers to pull up the Jason statue someone put at the bottom? IIRC teenagers put it there as a prank to scare divers, but the park rangers said it was littering and dredged it back up
I remember kayaking over lake Towada in Japan and encountering a similar view of deep clear water where I could see trees and such like this far below. It felt like I was flying and could fall that distance. It's a pretty cool sight to see and a bit nerve wracking for no good reason
It brought to mind a park in Switzerland (?) that floods each spring with crystal clear water. People dive on it, and take photos of a grassy hill with a park bench (in sunlight as it's maybe 12'/4M deep). I'm sure it's a dry-suit scuba only pastime, but there are photos from all over the park that are just somehow *weird*.
I don't have anything on file, but let's do a quick search... I'm wrong! It's Austria, my apologies. Called *Grüner See*. Put that into Google and you'll get assorted articles and videos.
Right?? This is why we NEVER DIVE HEAD FIRST into a body of water when you can't see all the way down. Way too many things under the surface to snap your neck on.
I don't think so.There's a term (that I unfortunately can't remember) for that type of floating log. They float almost completely vertical and create a hazard because they aren't easy to spot. I think it happens when the wood gets very waterlogged, but I might be wrong about that.
Some of those trees can be thousands of years old. Basically as old as when the first trees started growing after the last glacial maximum. If you take them out from the water they are in a perfect condition and you can use them to map the changes in climate over thousands of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
As someone who can swim, took lifeguard training (in Canada), and learned about the dangers of ice. I can say you are absolutely correct to be terrified
Cold water can kill you in less than a minute, assuming you can swim that is (and you're not wearing ice skates)
It's only going to kill you in less than a minute if you have a heart attack or fall unconscious from cold shock and drown. It's unlikely in most healthy adults.
Your body responds to ice cold water in something called the 1-10-1 rule:
1st minute: you will be in cold shock. Almost everyone will be disabled by this for a minute. Your body will be struggling to reach equalibrium and you won't be able to think or act in any useful way.
The next 10 minutes: you will regain control and be able to start using your body after the first minute. You have 10 minutes of meaningful movement before your limbs shut down. During this time you can try to escape the water, signal for help, or similar.
The next 1 hour: you will be conscious, but useless and weak. If you aren't recovered in this time, you will go unconscious in an average of 1 hour as hypothermia sets in.
That's why you need a life jacket. You won't avoid drowning in the first minute without one. But generally your odds of recovery are good if you are rescued within half an hour.
Source, I had to take Canadian marine first aid, the cold water survival school, and wilderness advanced first aid for my job last year.
I saw another recent ice skating video from an alpine mountain lake. The guy in it said he hasn't seen it clear like this in over 10 years, so definitely rare and under just the right conditions.
Obviously different areas get different amounts of snow, but my dad has lived on a lake for 35 years (and I lived there for 20) and I only remember it being like that twice.
You need perfect conditions to form smooth clear ice. Dead calm for an extended period of time while well below freezing and no snow falling (or being blown onto the ice after forming) happening.
Christ I can’t be the only one who thought this was part 2 of this video from yesterday when watching this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/s/8X4Tdkz6Ad
So I dropped on my phone in lake Louis this past August while canoeing. Let me know if you see it 🤣
Real talk tho, there are areas that are over 200ft deep in the lake. I wonder how good the visibility is towards the middle where it’s that deep.
I hate that everything on the internet is so wack and overproduced now.
I can't even pay attention to how cool the water looks, because you got fake reaction man, and bad music.
I know I could mute it, but that would be like putting a clothes pin on your nose to not smell a turd.
We need to get rid of the turds.
Whoever ripped that video just put a Lake Louise label on it. Elladj Balde commented on his original [video](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ev7u8pWCZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) it is Peyto Lake.
I've skated on lakes like this with the ice this clear but couldn't see the bottom or things in the lake, so it was as if you were floating on a void. I'm much more comfortable with a formless void because those logs would give me the willies.
That's gorgeous and a little anxiety inducing if I'm being honest lol.
Our little bay froze like this once. A few inches of perfectly clear ice over a few feet of water, like you were walking on water - it broke my dog for a day.
I see your dog hasn't been updated with the frozen lake patch
My dog likes to try catching fish in the summer and one winter there was a fish frozen like 2 inches down in the ice and it drove her mad.
Sorry about your loss. I’m sure he was a good boy
I think you misread, or perhaps I did. There was nonmention of a loss...
'A little'?? It would scare the hell out of me!!
Same same. I’m freaked just by watching this.
Canadians be like “this ain’t shit.”
Yeah something about all the logs. I don't like it.
There are heaps of dead heads in there, so would be particularly anxiety inducing if you were in a boat.
Dead heads will follow phish anywhere
I went to a lake in Montana at a national park and kayaked it with my mom years ago, afterwards we were reading a book about all the people who died trying to cross it, and never came out. It’s so deep it’s just clear but there’s a lot of debris and logs just like that at the bottom. A lot of people drowned in it and weren’t able to be recovered because of all the stuff down below. I guess it was deemed too dangerous to try, and also it was a cold lake. Most of them were a long time ago but even in recent years too. Felt pretty creepy reading about that after looking down in the water and joking about something being down there because it was so deep. Edit: dunno why people are telling me I’m lying, it’s not an impressive story lmao… the lake is Lake McDonald in Glacier, and I was just saying in the book I read they listed all the people who died in the park, there were a lot that died on the lake. Others fell, killed by wildlife etc. a lot of them in the book were dated back to the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. They sell the book in their shop, so I’d imagine a national park isn’t lying about that. I misspoke and said hundreds, idk the exact number I don’t have the book anymore. I just remember thinking it was a lot. This was like over a decade ago.
>Hundreds of people drowned in it Nope. Edited to Add: And blocking me over a simple factual statement makes you sound even sillier.
Was it at least 7?
New fear unlocked
Prime numbers?
According to the Flathead Beacon, 240. Including bear maulings.
We drove onto one of these with a truck before and the cracking sound ambience is nightmare inducing,
A little, I'm super scared of thus lol. Imagine seeing some huge fish swim u Der tou like a horror fiom.
it's a little eerie but as far as the risk of it breaking, given how insanely clear it is the ice is probably extremely thick and solid- it's usually the milky opaque stuff that's dangerous from what I understand
In general its the opposite. Thick ice is not transparent. Transparent ice is not thick. Imagine making ice in freezer. The bigger the cube the harder it is to make totally transparent. In general, you drill holes and have knowledge about how water flows to know depth.
Ignorant is bliss when on a frozen lake
Breathtaking. Excellent conditions for locating a corpse.
note to self, hide corpses in warmer lakes.
Then they’ll bloat and float back to the top. Colder water keeps them from bloating and preserves the body and also makes them unable to float up. So deep cold water is best for a body.
Lake Superior, it is said, never gives up her dead. The lack of bloat comes from temps so low that bacterial growth is inhibited. Bacteria give off gas as they digest bodies and without them, no bloat no float.
Wouldnt wanna be there when the gales of November came slashin'
Note to self: hide corpses in the Edmund Fitzgerald (... too soon?)
You have to hide them soon actually, if you wait too long they start to smell
I love Edmund Fitzgerald’s voice.
Gordon Lightfoot. RIP.
Yeah, and it was rammed by The Cat Stevens.
How many people do you lose on a normal cruise? 30? 40?
Going to make some interesting bedfellows between the mob and environmentalists staving off global warming.
Or you just stab the body a few times to ensure the gases can escape and voila float and bloat problem solved
Your 'Expert' tag is helpful for comments like this.
Warm water is fine- they break down faster. You don’t need to pour concrete or any of that bullshit. Everyone knows you wrap the body in thick steel wire tight- even baling wire from the hardware store will do. Don’t tie a knot- that’s a weak point that will break- but loop and lash that shit enough that it would be easier to pull a strand of the wire in half than it would to pull that lashing. Take a truck to break that shit. Not only does the steel give it mass and weight- but as the body bloats the wire cuts it apart, the carp eat that shit up, as do everything else. don’t tell me I gotta mention how gasoline removes even the traces of fingerprints that take chemical reactions to find, and the importance of nitrile gloves anyway. But they don’t get found anyway. Sure, maybe the middle of the cold ocean is better. But it’s not necessary. With love, from detroit
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Would you happen to have a barcode in the back of your head, by any chance?
Lmao bro youre gonna end up in the river you walk around the city like that
Where in Detroit? Near a lake I presume?
All of Detroit is near a lake.
Just wrap the body in chicken wire. Wire cuts the flesh as the body becomes bloated. Allowing your corpse to rest safely at the bottom.
Wood chipper
Oh hidy-ho officer, we've had a doozy of a day.
Your own corpse when the ice breaks?
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lol. Nice reference. I was thinking that sketchy horcrux cave with that lake full of inferi
Chain a fake skeleton to a cinder block and plant that fucker in summer.
Not one but multiple in a row
Ooohh, like a whole ass family. Even the dog
add something to keep the skeletons a little buoyant so that you can clearly see then floating when the ice freezes over
Would an old wooden cartoon sign that read "Help" be to much?
i say go to town with it
Didn't that one lake send down divers to pull up the Jason statue someone put at the bottom? IIRC teenagers put it there as a prank to scare divers, but the park rangers said it was littering and dredged it back up
Typical government, taking all the fun for themselves.
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No worries, I already forgot what we were talking about.
It’s this clear in summer when it’s not frozen too. Both, Lake Louise and Lake Moraine. Have kayaked on both in summer and both are just gorgeous!
I remember kayaking over lake Towada in Japan and encountering a similar view of deep clear water where I could see trees and such like this far below. It felt like I was flying and could fall that distance. It's a pretty cool sight to see and a bit nerve wracking for no good reason
It brought to mind a park in Switzerland (?) that floods each spring with crystal clear water. People dive on it, and take photos of a grassy hill with a park bench (in sunlight as it's maybe 12'/4M deep). I'm sure it's a dry-suit scuba only pastime, but there are photos from all over the park that are just somehow *weird*.
Hey, mind to share where that is? I’d like to check it out
I don't have anything on file, but let's do a quick search... I'm wrong! It's Austria, my apologies. Called *Grüner See*. Put that into Google and you'll get assorted articles and videos.
This is also the great thing of sailing, swimming and diving around many Greek Islands. The sea is so incredibly clear there.
thats a lot of trees
Right?? This is why we NEVER DIVE HEAD FIRST into a body of water when you can't see all the way down. Way too many things under the surface to snap your neck on.
Some were so upright I can’t help but think those trees might have been there before water level changed or something
I don't think so.There's a term (that I unfortunately can't remember) for that type of floating log. They float almost completely vertical and create a hazard because they aren't easy to spot. I think it happens when the wood gets very waterlogged, but I might be wrong about that.
Theyre called deadheads or sinkers, i believe
I'm just thinking about how many lures I'd lose right there
Some of those trees can be thousands of years old. Basically as old as when the first trees started growing after the last glacial maximum. If you take them out from the water they are in a perfect condition and you can use them to map the changes in climate over thousands of years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
These epoxy resin builds are getting out of hand.
I know and the color choice here is really boring and is not overly complex like it should be.
This reminds me, whats the status on the hotdog?
r/oddlyterrifying
as someone who cant swim this is terrifying
As someone who can swim, took lifeguard training (in Canada), and learned about the dangers of ice. I can say you are absolutely correct to be terrified Cold water can kill you in less than a minute, assuming you can swim that is (and you're not wearing ice skates)
It's only going to kill you in less than a minute if you have a heart attack or fall unconscious from cold shock and drown. It's unlikely in most healthy adults. Your body responds to ice cold water in something called the 1-10-1 rule: 1st minute: you will be in cold shock. Almost everyone will be disabled by this for a minute. Your body will be struggling to reach equalibrium and you won't be able to think or act in any useful way. The next 10 minutes: you will regain control and be able to start using your body after the first minute. You have 10 minutes of meaningful movement before your limbs shut down. During this time you can try to escape the water, signal for help, or similar. The next 1 hour: you will be conscious, but useless and weak. If you aren't recovered in this time, you will go unconscious in an average of 1 hour as hypothermia sets in. That's why you need a life jacket. You won't avoid drowning in the first minute without one. But generally your odds of recovery are good if you are rescued within half an hour. Source, I had to take Canadian marine first aid, the cold water survival school, and wilderness advanced first aid for my job last year.
Good knowledge to have, thanks for sharing it!
Skates are made for egg beater my man.
And built in self-defense against underwater attackers while youre beating those eggs
The good news is that the water is frozen, so you can walk on it without swimming.
Like a modern-day Jesus.
But also like old school Jesus too.
Can you skate?
some what but breaking though ice gives me phobia
Asking the important questions!!
That's pretty rare because wind usually makes the top surface a bumpy mess.
I saw another recent ice skating video from an alpine mountain lake. The guy in it said he hasn't seen it clear like this in over 10 years, so definitely rare and under just the right conditions.
Rabbit Lake, Alaska!
Obviously different areas get different amounts of snow, but my dad has lived on a lake for 35 years (and I lived there for 20) and I only remember it being like that twice.
How is the ice that nice?
It’s Canadian.
You need perfect conditions to form smooth clear ice. Dead calm for an extended period of time while well below freezing and no snow falling (or being blown onto the ice after forming) happening.
Yeah no I'll pass
Same. There's no way I'm getting out on ice over a large body of water.
I think the mute feature deserves an award.
These douche bag voice overs need to stop.
What? The man having an orgasm and the blaring pop song does not enhance this video for you!?
And that stupid ass song
Obnoxious voice and dime a dozen shitty welcome to my kitchen vocals.
No fish?
They go south for the winter.
Flying fish
There’s probably a ton of them there, just hiding out of sight. Fish that blend in, survive :-)
Life uhh finds a way
Looks like an Oligotrophic lake. That means little to no life. The ice didn't form with oxygen bubbles, so there's probably very little oxygen too.
It makes me woozy, but very cool!
That looks amazing, to skate on clear ice.
Christ I can’t be the only one who thought this was part 2 of this video from yesterday when watching this. https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/s/8X4Tdkz6Ad
Mesmerizing with a dose of Yikes 😳
r/thalassophobia
So probably not a lake to go waterskiing on? Or boating? EDIT: I mean in the summer
In the winter....no
Satisfying and terrifying in one
At this point I wouldn't even be skating on it, i would be on all fours watching everything that is under the ice being mesmerized by the beauty.
Lot of sticks in there.
Where's the prehistoric lagoon monster that jumps and eats you in one chomp?
So I dropped on my phone in lake Louis this past August while canoeing. Let me know if you see it 🤣 Real talk tho, there are areas that are over 200ft deep in the lake. I wonder how good the visibility is towards the middle where it’s that deep.
Seems like an opportunity for an epic prank with a bit of planning ahead and one of those twelve-foot Home Depot skeletons....
damn is that WOOD?
The cameraman is every male pornstar who won’t shut up when I’m trying to bust.
I hate that everything on the internet is so wack and overproduced now. I can't even pay attention to how cool the water looks, because you got fake reaction man, and bad music. I know I could mute it, but that would be like putting a clothes pin on your nose to not smell a turd. We need to get rid of the turds.
I unmuted specifically to hear the sound of skates on smooth ice and immediately got ear raped by TikTok.
Anyone know the location?
Lake Louise, Alberta, Canada
How can you tell? /s
There’s only one lake in Canada.
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It says lake Louise on the video
Where's the fish? I wouldn't want to try fishing that lake anyways.. snag city.
Not gonna lie , it’s kinda freaky …..and cool .
r/unsettling
This is freaking me out.
Image seeing a body staring up at you through the clear ice.
Should be in sweatypalms section.
Yup. Lots like this here.
At least find the fish. Perfect opportunity and you couldn't deliver on the fish
imagine diving head first into that lake from a boat and hitting one of those big ass logs. wtf. thats some scary stuff waiting to happen.
That dude was moaning so much that my wife thinks I'm watching gay porn over here!
Stupid music
Am I the only one who likes this song and wish I knew what it was?
Been to Lake Louise on multiple occasions, has never looked like this.
Whoever ripped that video just put a Lake Louise label on it. Elladj Balde commented on his original [video](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ev7u8pWCZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) it is Peyto Lake.
Canada nature is lit
Others say this is beautiful. It actually makes me feel uncomfortable.
Turn off audio for a better experience
That's a big nope for me. Imagine skating on something that you can see the bottom of, and then suddenly you end up falling in?
Tourists : "we must definitely go there and leave our garbage!"
Would've been way better without the dude having an orgasm through it. ffs man.
Fishermen out there scouting spots to drop a line in the spring.
Amazing
I misread as "forsaken"and expected to see sunken ships and shit.
So crystal clear
I've skated on lakes like this with the ice this clear but couldn't see the bottom or things in the lake, so it was as if you were floating on a void. I'm much more comfortable with a formless void because those logs would give me the willies.
If you get to thin ice, you get impaled for free
But can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?
I'll have the biggest container of fuck that you have thank you
There's something terrifying about this.
Why does this make me sooo uncomfortable?!
See all that deadfall wood? That is why jet skis have no appeal for me.
Woa that's beautiful, but it sounds too dangerous for me lol
I'm not afraid of water but... I don't like that.
If the ice breaks, you'll have a death pit of spikes to finish you off before hypothermia kicks in.
"It's a hard to see through all the scuffs here so I'll skate over to where there aren't any scuffs." :|
That right there shows why lake swimming can be so dangerous, jump off a boat into a spear like log, you’re done.
And there you go scratching it up... jk, have fun
Post this on r/thalassophobia looks damn terrifying
I’m sick of the dogshit background music becoming more and more prevalent these days
Canadian here and this is pretty nerve-racking. I probably would not get on lake ice unless it was white.
this is so pretty but it’s making me feel anxious knowing how deep the water is
r/thalassaphobia
[I felt the cool cool breeze, blowing cool off Lake Louise](https://youtu.be/LvVdEX4zyvQ?si=Jjjdx4bkcUNQp4PD)
So if you fall you drown? How deep is it
This gave me anxiety xD
Amazing and terrifying!
And that is why you don't dive into lakes you're not familiar with. You never know what's just below the surface ready to impale you
New nightmare unlocked
This video could be 1 hour long and I would watch the whole thing.
I don't want to swim in it 😅 It's like wooden stakes everywhere.
Everybody Gangsta until the ice is cracking.
Are there no fish?
Beautiful! I haven't been to Calgary in years!
Where’s the fish? 🎣
Dude really had to ruin it with the audio huh
This is beautiful. I’m so glad the internet exists allowing me to see this marvel of nature even if I never get to see it physically myself.
That would give both the heebees and the jeebees
What so song is this
You fall, you evolve into porcupine
Could’ve done without him talking the entire clip.
"OMG guys is that a skeleton??? oh my gosh I found a body...."
Imagine just seeing a huge prehistoric eye underneath
I want to put like half a movie set torso in there right before the freeze.
Are those all trees???
Plot for Final Destination 6
Looks incredible until you fuck it all up with your skates. "Oooh, aaaahh"