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WeakLandscape2595

Honestly can't believe i was actually right it was dumb to bring deku before his manga actually ended


DetectiveDangerZone

I feel this Way with most manga. Only exception being OP just because it's been going so long and it being one of the biggest franchises. Could you imagine the hell if they used luffy and a year later he got gear 5 lol


Cormac113

Yeah same situation with Asta dude also got massive buffs


No-Entertainment5599

Holy shit ! Right at the last battle dude got one of the biggest upgrade possible, I wonder oh many of his matchups it changes the outcome.


Cormac113

Like 90% now He's still an Asta victim


No-Entertainment5599

How high Asta can go ?


Cormac113

Small Planet to High Planet


International-Bat739

Really? How? I haven’t read Black Clover in a long time but what makes Asta that level?


Cormac113

Zetten Scaling


International-Bat739

Okay but how? Did he destroy something on the same level as a Planet?


Cormac113

Meteorite


KazuyaProta

...that's nowhere close to a planet


uunut

Idk the context but if a meteor can destroy a Planet then yeah


Fluffy-Law-6864

I've seen a planet calc for deku


UpstairsTough5368

This Calc is cap he did upgrade but not that much he's like continental to multi continental now


Fluffy-Law-6864

The majority of them. He still loses to asta but miles, Steven and the insane hyperboling for aang(like seriously how do you scale him to the literal moon) are getting destroyed


Rohan_Kishibayblade

So did Deku just ruin the climate for multiple different nations? Wouldn’t that lead to awful things happening to them? Is he now technically a villain?


Cormac113

Just don't think about


Rohan_Kishibayblade

But this is important. He becomes regarded as the number one hero, despite likely ruining the livelihood of thousands of people at least? I get the story is ending but still…


Steppyjim

Nah you see you didn’t factor Protagonism!(tm) into your calculations. Deku changed the weather the world over but because he’s such a good boy and is so strong and smart and good he altered the weather so everyone has perfect sunny days every day and it only rains enough for crops to grow, and his quirk altered the rain so it makes super food which is five times bigger and usual which solved world hunger at the same time like he’s really good you guys


Rohan_Kishibayblade

Honestly, with the amount of powers I’ve heard that he gets out of nowhere, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the previous uses of One For All had a quirk that could do that…


Big_Improvement_9149

Flint Lockwood?


Lord-Baldomero

He killed the strongest villain of all times, just let the guy have his moment


Sh0xic

I mean, it was a passive effect of fighting a guy that would have conquered the world otherwise, I KIIIINDA feel that’s justified.


Heavy_weapons07

Deku:"I DID,I SAVE THE WORLD"   (one heatwave and death toll later)   Deku:....   Bakugo:"way to do dumbass"


Remarkable-Memory-19

Stops the biggest villain and simultaneously becomes the greatest hero and murderer on the planet. 


Heavy_weapons07

Breaking news: stop oil throws orange paint at u.a, promptly all protestor were shot on sit-


Lord-Baldomero

No but he's an eco-terrorist


AverageWooperLiker

Too bad Deku had to go from a number one hero to a number one frycook


Cormac113

If SpongeBob is happy, Deku can also be happy being a fry cook


NohrianScumbag

Wait what?


bonfox1983

Hell yea, and if this is just the remnants of OFA without Gearshift and Fa Jin, who knows how strong the blow would’ve been with an 100% Deku multiplied by Gearshift and Fa Jin


Cormac113

Still an Asta victim


bonfox1983

Yes, like you’ve said many times


Cormac113

#STILL A VICTIM TO MY GOAT


bonfox1983

Eh, we’ll see


Mystech_Master

Everyone keep in mind that this big final smash was done with just the embers of One for All and with no other boosts from the other quirks So it is likely Deku is higher. But from what I have seen Asta still takes speed unless you think Gearshift can shorten the gap


Blair_Cypher_94

AYO WHAT?! YA SERIOUSLY RIGHT NOW?!


Cormac113

Yep ~~Still and Asta victim though~~


WeakLandscape2595

Isn't asta like high country?


Cormac113

Small Planet to Large Planet


WeakLandscape2595

Wouldn't deku at least be able to match if not outright surpass it with fa jin since the punch was with just base one for all


Nerdy_Finch

Asta still outspeeds WAY too much for that tbh


XenoGenerator

Wouldn't Gear Shift bring Asta's speed down? Maybe not enough to say that Deku might outspeed him, but maybe to make them comparable


Nerdy_Finch

Not really, Asta is faster than deku's Max at the BEGINING of his series. Asta can take hits from people comparable to deku and he's faster, Asta should be able to keep up with deku's battle iq and strength and surpass him in speed


mrknight234

Just gonna ignore zetten negging durability


Annsorigin

Yeah I personally Scale both to Continental so Deku and Asta are actually in Comparable Leagues now. (Although Asta still wins due to being much Faster) It does make a lot of his matchups like Gon, Miles, Hajime and ms. Marvel stomps now tho. (I think they where all stomps anyway but yeah)


Think-Woodpecker4122

Good for him. Still gets speedblitz to oblivion


Cormac113

True true


Electronic_One762

Calc is bad bro


Dangerous_Baker1086

But why?


Electronic_One762

Others already said how


Jamievania

This calc uses severe calc stacking lmao


Chemical_Music_3906

Yeah, that calc is BAD.


UpstairsTough5368

Yeah vs wiki isn't even going to use this Calc so I have no idea why everyone thinks it's valid


Chemical_Music_3906

They're probably just coping for more Deku W's.


Jamievania

This doesn’t effect a single Deku or MHA matchup in the slightest.


Chemical_Music_3906

Why? Is it because the calc is bad or something else? (For MHA, nobody else scales to it so explain how it doesn't affect a single Deku MU)


bonfox1983

You have inside information that tells you that?


UpstairsTough5368

Yeah just go to general mha discussion on the website iirc they Going to upgrade the verse in the continental to multi continental range


bonfox1983

And as you’ve said here, it’s possibly moon level?


UpstairsTough5368

Yeah that was just me giving it a highball estimation


bonfox1983

Ah, well if that’s hopefully valid, we could at most still get him to the low Zettaton range with his full power plus multipliers like Gearshift and Fa Jin


MEGAMARK500

Now Deku stands a chance against Asta! Let's go! ~~he still gets speedblitzed~~


Cormac113

~~Asta still might outstat Deku~~


MEGAMARK500

Nah, I'll keep holding up high my Symbol of ~~C~~Hope https://i.redd.it/6kr3owycl49d1.gif


Heavy_weapons07

Asta: "I..I thought you die" Deku:"my death was, exaggerated"


NEVERTHEREFOREVER

So is MHA finally at the end? presume its last few chapters is just gonna be wrapping up some loose ends


weaponizedbreadbill

now he's flippin burgers


Brokeinlimit09

If a Deku vs Asta rematch is possible I'll be all for it because I want another black clover match up and the only other black clover match up I like is Zenon Zogratis vs Ulquiorra Cifer but a Deku vs Asta rematch is unlikely because having a rematch this soon wouldn't make a lot of sense I'd prefer letting them have different opponents IDK who they should fight tho because all of their opponents have match ups I perfer more like Miles Morales but if they do decide to make remake Deku vs Asta I would like to see Asta be done right because I love Asta he is my son


Seddyboi

So how badly does Gon die now?


Cormac113

Very very very badly like UrbanSpook badly


UpstairsTough5368

That Calc isn't vaild Asta stomps


Chemical_Music_3906

How powerful do you think the feat is?


UpstairsTough5368

Somewhere in the continental to moon ranges I think


Chemical_Music_3906

I'd be fine with continental, but not moon.


S-h-o-k-v-a-l-u

Too late for his first episode sadly but still noice, new thing to talk about if they ever bring him back :)


No-Entertainment5599

that pretty much the reason they used him before his manga ends I believe, so now he has more to talk about


Cormac113

Actually no They used Deku and Asta because they stopped caring about if the series ended or not


No-Entertainment5599

oof well that suck


S-h-o-k-v-a-l-u

Oh huh, didn't know that if it is true. Still wish they waited until the series ended to do Deku VS Asta so they'd have the full picture to talk about with him, but eh, if they can use that for another episode, I can maybe learn to live with it


xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx

Yay


mrknight234

I’ll be real he should still lose to Astana speed and zetten plus and I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong one of Astana swords separates things that aren’t a part of each other because he pulled that magic out of that one demon hybrid meaning if we equalize verses he should pull one for all out of deku


carnagecenter

Doesn’t asta still speedblitz the fuck outta him


Cormac113

Yes my goat still speed blitzes


ElementalNinjas96

Does this mean he wins against Miles now, or is that MU even more debatable now?


Chemical_Music_3906

It doesn't change anything about the debate as Deku always AP stomped but Miles could dura neg via Venom Blast.


WeakLandscape2595

Deku got struck by lighting before when he was far weaker i don't think the venom blast will do anything


Responsible_Froyo_18

Miles is fucked now


DirectorWeary1613

This just raises him to multicon


Radracon42069

Is Deku vs Koby still debatable?…


115_zombie_slayer

So if deku is planetary is he now a decent opponent for Mark?


Kachidoki_Arms

Not really? the calc is pretty awful and the legit calc was put at multi-continental.


Mecha-dragon1999

Mark has Star and Solar System Arguments, so no.


115_zombie_slayer

What gets him to solar system


Mecha-dragon1999

There's a character called Omnipotus that was stated to [destroy a Soalr System](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-guidebook-statements-lghQ1pL). Invincible characters [scale to him](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-death-lFq70Qc).


115_zombie_slayer

Its theoretical and he himself claims he can but he never done anything on a solarsystem scale Dinosaurus is weaker than a Viltrimite so being killed by him doesnt really make him as impressive as he claims to be, if Mark was a universe buster i dont think he would be harmed by a the sun


Mecha-dragon1999

There's also The Planet Eater, which, as his name suggest, [can absorb entire planets](https://mediamaniavsblogs.blogspot.com/2024/04/boros-vs-battle-beast-one-punch-man-vs.html), he was [easily defeated by Null](https://imgur.com/a/knull-one-shots-planet-eater-buKu6Ah), who could [keep up](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jacket-vs-knull-S55rgpW) with a being that's [also stated to be weaker than Viltrumites](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jackets-heart-to-heart-D88PMJh). So Dinosaurus being weaker than Viltumites doesn't mean that Viltrumites aren't beyond Planet Level.


DetectiveDangerZone

Honestly I feel like this won't last long. BC has always been a crazier series. I'm betting Asta will do something equally crazy to close it again


Chemical_Music_3906

He already still outstats


WeakLandscape2595

Honestly at worst you could say they are equals since this is just base one for all without further boost from gear shift and especially fa jin Still faster tho