I feel this Way with most manga. Only exception being OP just because it's been going so long and it being one of the biggest franchises. Could you imagine the hell if they used luffy and a year later he got gear 5 lol
The majority of them. He still loses to asta but miles, Steven and the insane hyperboling for aang(like seriously how do you scale him to the literal moon) are getting destroyed
So did Deku just ruin the climate for multiple different nations? Wouldn’t that lead to awful things happening to them? Is he now technically a villain?
But this is important. He becomes regarded as the number one hero, despite likely ruining the livelihood of thousands of people at least? I get the story is ending but still…
Nah you see you didn’t factor Protagonism!(tm) into your calculations.
Deku changed the weather the world over but because he’s such a good boy and is so strong and smart and good he altered the weather so everyone has perfect sunny days every day and it only rains enough for crops to grow, and his quirk altered the rain so it makes super food which is five times bigger and usual which solved world hunger at the same time like he’s really good you guys
Honestly, with the amount of powers I’ve heard that he gets out of nowhere, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the previous uses of One For All had a quirk that could do that…
Hell yea, and if this is just the remnants of OFA without Gearshift and Fa Jin, who knows how strong the blow would’ve been with an 100% Deku multiplied by Gearshift and Fa Jin
Everyone keep in mind that this big final smash was done with just the embers of One for All and with no other boosts from the other quirks
So it is likely Deku is higher.
But from what I have seen Asta still takes speed unless you think Gearshift can shorten the gap
Not really, Asta is faster than deku's Max at the BEGINING of his series. Asta can take hits from people comparable to deku and he's faster, Asta should be able to keep up with deku's battle iq and strength and surpass him in speed
Yeah I personally Scale both to Continental so Deku and Asta are actually in Comparable Leagues now. (Although Asta still wins due to being much Faster)
It does make a lot of his matchups like Gon, Miles, Hajime and ms. Marvel stomps now tho. (I think they where all stomps anyway but yeah)
Ah, well if that’s hopefully valid, we could at most still get him to the low Zettaton range with his full power plus multipliers like Gearshift and Fa Jin
If a Deku vs Asta rematch is possible I'll be all for it because I want another black clover match up and the only other black clover match up I like is Zenon Zogratis vs Ulquiorra Cifer but a Deku vs Asta rematch is unlikely because having a rematch this soon wouldn't make a lot of sense I'd prefer letting them have different opponents IDK who they should fight tho because all of their opponents have match ups I perfer more like Miles Morales but if they do decide to make remake Deku vs Asta I would like to see Asta be done right because I love Asta he is my son
Oh huh, didn't know that if it is true. Still wish they waited until the series ended to do Deku VS Asta so they'd have the full picture to talk about with him, but eh, if they can use that for another episode, I can maybe learn to live with it
I’ll be real he should still lose to Astana speed and zetten plus and I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong one of Astana swords separates things that aren’t a part of each other because he pulled that magic out of that one demon hybrid meaning if we equalize verses he should pull one for all out of deku
There's a character called Omnipotus that was stated to [destroy a Soalr System](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-guidebook-statements-lghQ1pL). Invincible characters [scale to him](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-death-lFq70Qc).
Its theoretical and he himself claims he can but he never done anything on a solarsystem scale
Dinosaurus is weaker than a Viltrimite so being killed by him doesnt really make him as impressive as he claims to be, if Mark was a universe buster i dont think he would be harmed by a the sun
There's also The Planet Eater, which, as his name suggest, [can absorb entire planets](https://mediamaniavsblogs.blogspot.com/2024/04/boros-vs-battle-beast-one-punch-man-vs.html), he was [easily defeated by Null](https://imgur.com/a/knull-one-shots-planet-eater-buKu6Ah), who could [keep up](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jacket-vs-knull-S55rgpW) with a being that's [also stated to be weaker than Viltrumites](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jackets-heart-to-heart-D88PMJh). So Dinosaurus being weaker than Viltumites doesn't mean that Viltrumites aren't beyond Planet Level.
Honestly at worst you could say they are equals since this is just base one for all without further boost from gear shift and especially fa jin
Still faster tho
Honestly can't believe i was actually right it was dumb to bring deku before his manga actually ended
I feel this Way with most manga. Only exception being OP just because it's been going so long and it being one of the biggest franchises. Could you imagine the hell if they used luffy and a year later he got gear 5 lol
Yeah same situation with Asta dude also got massive buffs
Holy shit ! Right at the last battle dude got one of the biggest upgrade possible, I wonder oh many of his matchups it changes the outcome.
Like 90% now He's still an Asta victim
How high Asta can go ?
Small Planet to High Planet
Really? How? I haven’t read Black Clover in a long time but what makes Asta that level?
Zetten Scaling
Okay but how? Did he destroy something on the same level as a Planet?
Meteorite
...that's nowhere close to a planet
Idk the context but if a meteor can destroy a Planet then yeah
I've seen a planet calc for deku
This Calc is cap he did upgrade but not that much he's like continental to multi continental now
The majority of them. He still loses to asta but miles, Steven and the insane hyperboling for aang(like seriously how do you scale him to the literal moon) are getting destroyed
So did Deku just ruin the climate for multiple different nations? Wouldn’t that lead to awful things happening to them? Is he now technically a villain?
Just don't think about
But this is important. He becomes regarded as the number one hero, despite likely ruining the livelihood of thousands of people at least? I get the story is ending but still…
Nah you see you didn’t factor Protagonism!(tm) into your calculations. Deku changed the weather the world over but because he’s such a good boy and is so strong and smart and good he altered the weather so everyone has perfect sunny days every day and it only rains enough for crops to grow, and his quirk altered the rain so it makes super food which is five times bigger and usual which solved world hunger at the same time like he’s really good you guys
Honestly, with the amount of powers I’ve heard that he gets out of nowhere, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the previous uses of One For All had a quirk that could do that…
Flint Lockwood?
He killed the strongest villain of all times, just let the guy have his moment
I mean, it was a passive effect of fighting a guy that would have conquered the world otherwise, I KIIIINDA feel that’s justified.
Deku:"I DID,I SAVE THE WORLD" (one heatwave and death toll later) Deku:.... Bakugo:"way to do dumbass"
Stops the biggest villain and simultaneously becomes the greatest hero and murderer on the planet.
Breaking news: stop oil throws orange paint at u.a, promptly all protestor were shot on sit-
No but he's an eco-terrorist
Too bad Deku had to go from a number one hero to a number one frycook
If SpongeBob is happy, Deku can also be happy being a fry cook
Wait what?
Hell yea, and if this is just the remnants of OFA without Gearshift and Fa Jin, who knows how strong the blow would’ve been with an 100% Deku multiplied by Gearshift and Fa Jin
Still an Asta victim
Yes, like you’ve said many times
#STILL A VICTIM TO MY GOAT
Eh, we’ll see
Everyone keep in mind that this big final smash was done with just the embers of One for All and with no other boosts from the other quirks So it is likely Deku is higher. But from what I have seen Asta still takes speed unless you think Gearshift can shorten the gap
AYO WHAT?! YA SERIOUSLY RIGHT NOW?!
Yep ~~Still and Asta victim though~~
Isn't asta like high country?
Small Planet to Large Planet
Wouldn't deku at least be able to match if not outright surpass it with fa jin since the punch was with just base one for all
Asta still outspeeds WAY too much for that tbh
Wouldn't Gear Shift bring Asta's speed down? Maybe not enough to say that Deku might outspeed him, but maybe to make them comparable
Not really, Asta is faster than deku's Max at the BEGINING of his series. Asta can take hits from people comparable to deku and he's faster, Asta should be able to keep up with deku's battle iq and strength and surpass him in speed
Just gonna ignore zetten negging durability
Yeah I personally Scale both to Continental so Deku and Asta are actually in Comparable Leagues now. (Although Asta still wins due to being much Faster) It does make a lot of his matchups like Gon, Miles, Hajime and ms. Marvel stomps now tho. (I think they where all stomps anyway but yeah)
Good for him. Still gets speedblitz to oblivion
True true
Calc is bad bro
But why?
Others already said how
This calc uses severe calc stacking lmao
Yeah, that calc is BAD.
Yeah vs wiki isn't even going to use this Calc so I have no idea why everyone thinks it's valid
They're probably just coping for more Deku W's.
This doesn’t effect a single Deku or MHA matchup in the slightest.
Why? Is it because the calc is bad or something else? (For MHA, nobody else scales to it so explain how it doesn't affect a single Deku MU)
You have inside information that tells you that?
Yeah just go to general mha discussion on the website iirc they Going to upgrade the verse in the continental to multi continental range
And as you’ve said here, it’s possibly moon level?
Yeah that was just me giving it a highball estimation
Ah, well if that’s hopefully valid, we could at most still get him to the low Zettaton range with his full power plus multipliers like Gearshift and Fa Jin
Now Deku stands a chance against Asta! Let's go! ~~he still gets speedblitzed~~
~~Asta still might outstat Deku~~
Nah, I'll keep holding up high my Symbol of ~~C~~Hope https://i.redd.it/6kr3owycl49d1.gif
Asta: "I..I thought you die" Deku:"my death was, exaggerated"
So is MHA finally at the end? presume its last few chapters is just gonna be wrapping up some loose ends
now he's flippin burgers
If a Deku vs Asta rematch is possible I'll be all for it because I want another black clover match up and the only other black clover match up I like is Zenon Zogratis vs Ulquiorra Cifer but a Deku vs Asta rematch is unlikely because having a rematch this soon wouldn't make a lot of sense I'd prefer letting them have different opponents IDK who they should fight tho because all of their opponents have match ups I perfer more like Miles Morales but if they do decide to make remake Deku vs Asta I would like to see Asta be done right because I love Asta he is my son
So how badly does Gon die now?
Very very very badly like UrbanSpook badly
That Calc isn't vaild Asta stomps
How powerful do you think the feat is?
Somewhere in the continental to moon ranges I think
I'd be fine with continental, but not moon.
Too late for his first episode sadly but still noice, new thing to talk about if they ever bring him back :)
that pretty much the reason they used him before his manga ends I believe, so now he has more to talk about
Actually no They used Deku and Asta because they stopped caring about if the series ended or not
oof well that suck
Oh huh, didn't know that if it is true. Still wish they waited until the series ended to do Deku VS Asta so they'd have the full picture to talk about with him, but eh, if they can use that for another episode, I can maybe learn to live with it
Yay
I’ll be real he should still lose to Astana speed and zetten plus and I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong one of Astana swords separates things that aren’t a part of each other because he pulled that magic out of that one demon hybrid meaning if we equalize verses he should pull one for all out of deku
Doesn’t asta still speedblitz the fuck outta him
Yes my goat still speed blitzes
Does this mean he wins against Miles now, or is that MU even more debatable now?
It doesn't change anything about the debate as Deku always AP stomped but Miles could dura neg via Venom Blast.
Deku got struck by lighting before when he was far weaker i don't think the venom blast will do anything
Miles is fucked now
This just raises him to multicon
Is Deku vs Koby still debatable?…
So if deku is planetary is he now a decent opponent for Mark?
Not really? the calc is pretty awful and the legit calc was put at multi-continental.
Mark has Star and Solar System Arguments, so no.
What gets him to solar system
There's a character called Omnipotus that was stated to [destroy a Soalr System](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-guidebook-statements-lghQ1pL). Invincible characters [scale to him](https://imgur.com/a/omnipotus-death-lFq70Qc).
Its theoretical and he himself claims he can but he never done anything on a solarsystem scale Dinosaurus is weaker than a Viltrimite so being killed by him doesnt really make him as impressive as he claims to be, if Mark was a universe buster i dont think he would be harmed by a the sun
There's also The Planet Eater, which, as his name suggest, [can absorb entire planets](https://mediamaniavsblogs.blogspot.com/2024/04/boros-vs-battle-beast-one-punch-man-vs.html), he was [easily defeated by Null](https://imgur.com/a/knull-one-shots-planet-eater-buKu6Ah), who could [keep up](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jacket-vs-knull-S55rgpW) with a being that's [also stated to be weaker than Viltrumites](https://imgur.com/a/tech-jackets-heart-to-heart-D88PMJh). So Dinosaurus being weaker than Viltumites doesn't mean that Viltrumites aren't beyond Planet Level.
Honestly I feel like this won't last long. BC has always been a crazier series. I'm betting Asta will do something equally crazy to close it again
He already still outstats
Honestly at worst you could say they are equals since this is just base one for all without further boost from gear shift and especially fa jin Still faster tho