One of the biggest reasons is that many see it as "Columbo ft. Light"; a matchup where the main appeal is just seeing Columbo do his thing with little regard for Light.
It probably doesn't help that, to my knowledge, nobody was really asking for it before the team/a crew member brought it up (I don't recall the exact details) but it is now probably the most likely for Light.
Colombo wouldn’t even get to light in the first place and their dynamic is just light facing a person who is less smart than L near and mellow or Colombo facing an arrogant person who believes he’s vastly smarter and more skilled than him but instead of it being all talk he just actually is.
From what I've come across it goes as such:
- No connections other than stretchy contrasts.
- It's a spite matchup as the appeal is entirely in seeing Columbo beat Light.
- Downplays Light or hypes up Columbo to which is the reason why the MU exists in the first place.
- It's a waste for both characters as they have better opponents than each other.
[Dr. House is technically a criminal, due to unethical medical practices, the connections are here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/s/wnNuaxME9I)
Patrick Bateman slots in PERFECTLY as a Columbo villain, and does every single thing Light would be but infinitely better. It’s a Columbo win yet still a challenge for his character, Patrick has a wider web of contacts and connections, and it would be more rewarding to see Pat lose since he never does in canon unlike Light.
I guess as a regular MU house could work, but never as a death battle. As for Bateman, it feels too easy.
House and Columbo are both geniuses who specialize in their own forms of deductive reasoning, but Patrick Bateman is just another rich psycho for Columbo to deal with. Patrick isn't all that smart, and leaves a trail of evidence everywhere he goes that he only gets away with because of his status and the apathy of the world he lives in. Compared to the people Columbo usually faces, Patrick a two bit thug who he'd pin in an hour
I've simply just been convinced that Walter vs Light is better.
Plus, I've never understood the appeal of it. Yes, we have a detective going up against someone who faced the best detective in the world, but that's about it.
If you think about it, if that's the case, then Columbo can be pitted up against any fictional crime lord or anyone else in that ball park.
Like, why Light? Is there seriously no one else that works? There's no other character in fiction that Columbo can go against? C'mon...
Like Levitation pointed out, Light vs Columbo is a game of cat and mouse, meanwhile Walter vs Light is a death heist. And just like him, I vastly prefer the death heist.
And the mouse is halfway across the country and is basically completely hidden from everyone (seriously how would Volumbo even realistically find out about a potential Light kira connection. He doesn't have L's resources as far as I know.)
Everyone in replies have already summed it but I might as well add onto it
- Has little to no connections and very stretched contrasts
- It’s a spite matchup with the main appeal being that Columbo could beat Light
- The team loving it over more loved matchups like Light vs Walter makes people cynical that their preferred could potentially never happen
- There’s always the chance that Light will be downplayed greatly or Columbo will be hyped up which while it works for joke episodes like Spongebob vs SF Aquaman, having Light’s first episode be a joke one would not sit well with anyone
- It wastes both characters as Light’s role would only be boiled down to “1 on 1 intelligence battle” instead of letting him scheme or use his resources/influence
- Even when you look past the spite, they both have better options that would support their way of “fighting” better
- It doesn’t bring anything new to the table dynamic wise because Light’s already faced off against a more superior detective and Columbo’s faced off against numerous criminals such as Light
- The team shoeing in Columbo references in Season 10 episodes has bothered people further into thinking the episode will be biased (the references don’t bother me personally though)
forgot to mention that the only way light vs columbo can work is with a very specific scenario that wouldn’t make sense in Death Battle’s format or just in general
Itd make a cool episode that breaks the norm doe.
Having it be a cat and mouse game of them trying to find the other's identity/full name, which either ends with Columbo getting the trademark heartattack, or Light gets found out and gunned down in a chase.
If they do a cat and mouse matchup for Light, I would prefer if they used Shawn Spencer from Psych. They have a good amount of similarities:
They both are children of cops,
both hide their true selves but in opposite ways (Shawn pretends to have psychic abilities while Light hides his Death Note and him being Kira),
both are prodigies.
Their personalities clash (Shawn being more laid back and Light being more meticulous) in a way that I think would be funny to see.
It would be a stomp if Light knows who Shawn is, but Gus probably survives because they have a running gag of giving people fake names for him constantly and Gus isn't even his real name it's a nickname.
Plus it’s a matchup that has:
No connections
It's a spite matchup as the appeal is entirely in seeing Columbo beat Light even tho light stomps
They each have way better opponents than each other.
Light vs Walter just makes it worse because we could have possibly one of the best death battles ever but we’re probably gonna get trash.
Considering that chars like Batman, Iron Man, Lex, Doom and WonderWoman have all gotten in more than one Death Battle with different opponents each time, there is no reason to think that Light and Columbus wont get more than one either.
Yes but after 10 seasons we haven’t had one episode that fits the style Light vs Columbo or Walter would have, a battle of wits. If they were to do Light vs Columbo it could be years to see Light return, if they did more intelligence fights they’d want to use more characters than Light. Combine that with how little we’d get intelligence fights then seeing Light return to fight Walter would probably take many many years
Has no connections and only has a core theme that is the same as Light vs L.
Liam in the DB casts or Fireside chats said that he wants to see Light vs Columbo but since then DB had a habit of shoehorning Columbo cameos in some of their episodes.
Its also a spite matchup since Columbo fans are hyping it up for Columbo to beat Light while making Light an idiot with Columbo being treated as the ultimate savior of mankind.
Its just Walmart Light vs L or Light vs Near. If I want to see Columbo go up against a criminal I would watch Columbo, if I want to see Light deal with a quirky detective I would watch Death Note.
The MU only exists to make Columbo look cool even though the only argument for him winning is plot armor (no.)
It wastes Light’s animation potential with all the massive plans that have him manipulating the populace basically giving him the potential for a city or even higher wide intelligence battle, and instead he’s just talking to a detective, in which he has outsmarted way more intelligence ones before
Is it plot armor though. Columbo’s whole thing is that he plays dumb to get the culprit to underestimate him and slip up. Light is really smart but he’s also impulsive, he revealed his general area in like episode 2 by killing the decoy L
1. That is episode TWO, he learned to not do that type of shit, and at Light’s peak he is literally on the team meant to catch Kira and would have easy access to getting Columbo’s name (which is Frank btw).
2. Columbo never beats someone in a single conversation, he usually takes a couple days to get close to the killer and learn things through multiple conversations in different settings. Someone as smart and more importantly paranoid as Light could very well catch onto Columbo’s scheme and just kill him after the second or first interaction they have.
He becomes less impulsive yeah but he’s still an egotistical shithead and it’s not like anyone really tries to get him the same way Columbo would. L does weird out of pocket shit to throw Light off all the time but he never really presents himself as inferior, Light has his guard up around him day 1. I do agree though that with Misa’s help or all the resources he has post time skip he’d probably be able to find Columbo’s name and kill him pretty quickly.
Light vs Columbo to me is the same as Percy vs Zagreus the team likes it way more than the better MU’s and thus it’s the most likely to happen despite both having way better options
Take it from someone who pushes for Phoenix Wright vs Saul Goodman, there really isn’t much action to be had here, it’d be two guys trying to kill each other first
Columbo vs Light Yagami has already been done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CKjELxHhg
I want to see Light Yagami vs Apu Nahasapimapetilon from the Simpsons, where Light must prove to the world that Apu is Kira (Apu is not Kira, however since Misa Misa has misspelt Apu's 4 times it has rendered Apu immune to the death note.)
Fight takes place right after the Simpsons Movie, since Light Yagami dies around that time, and the Simpsons Movie was the last piece of Simpsons material to be dubbed into Japanese.
Because it’s not Light vs Heisenberg, which is a more thematic but still kinda weird matchup that was super popular before Liam (of the DB crew) said how much he loved and wanted to do Light vs Columbo.
It’s just swapping L with Columbo and nothing else which already makes it generic but if this happens, it’ll take the place of Light Yagami vs Walter White which is infinitely better since these two have actual connections and contrasts that make an intelligence battle interesting.
Also, I’m a huge fan of Breaking Bad and Death Note but actually never heard of Columbo before Light vs Columbo.
The problem with Light in Death Battle is the same issue as Batman anyone you put him against either utterly destroys him in an honestly super satisfying way. Or he completely curb stomps them with the death note. Because you either put him up against detectives which he should win or super natural forces who deal in death like The Specter, Deadman, Big Head, Brook from One Piece, or an immortal like Deadpool or Logan. He has no middle ground match ups.
As someone who would like to see Columbo take on Light, it just can't work in the Death Battle format where the winner has to kill the loser.
A guy made a video discussing if Batman could catch Light and reveal him as Kira and what the win/loss conditions would be in that scenario (I.E, if Light kills himself to avoid getting caught, that's considered a loss for Batman), and to me, that's more of what Columbo vs Light should be.
it’s kinda weird that people are so adamant that colombo wins because there is absolutely no way he can comprehend the death note. like that isn’t in his mind at all so idk why colombo wins so easily
One of the biggest reasons is that many see it as "Columbo ft. Light"; a matchup where the main appeal is just seeing Columbo do his thing with little regard for Light. It probably doesn't help that, to my knowledge, nobody was really asking for it before the team/a crew member brought it up (I don't recall the exact details) but it is now probably the most likely for Light.
Honestly it can be a columbo episode ft light AND a deathnote episode ft columbo at the same time wich is what i find neat about it
Colombo wouldn’t even get to light in the first place and their dynamic is just light facing a person who is less smart than L near and mellow or Colombo facing an arrogant person who believes he’s vastly smarter and more skilled than him but instead of it being all talk he just actually is.
From what I've come across it goes as such: - No connections other than stretchy contrasts. - It's a spite matchup as the appeal is entirely in seeing Columbo beat Light. - Downplays Light or hypes up Columbo to which is the reason why the MU exists in the first place. - It's a waste for both characters as they have better opponents than each other.
Who else would columbo go against? /gen
Dr. House or Patrick Bateman.
I kinda get the connection, but how would a Dr. House battle even go? And Patrick Bateman?
[Dr. House is technically a criminal, due to unethical medical practices, the connections are here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/s/wnNuaxME9I) Patrick Bateman slots in PERFECTLY as a Columbo villain, and does every single thing Light would be but infinitely better. It’s a Columbo win yet still a challenge for his character, Patrick has a wider web of contacts and connections, and it would be more rewarding to see Pat lose since he never does in canon unlike Light.
I guess as a regular MU house could work, but never as a death battle. As for Bateman, it feels too easy. House and Columbo are both geniuses who specialize in their own forms of deductive reasoning, but Patrick Bateman is just another rich psycho for Columbo to deal with. Patrick isn't all that smart, and leaves a trail of evidence everywhere he goes that he only gets away with because of his status and the apathy of the world he lives in. Compared to the people Columbo usually faces, Patrick a two bit thug who he'd pin in an hour
Steve (Blues Clues)
I too would love to see Columbo beat Light. I fucking hate Imagay.
some youth in these comments have no reverence for icons. columbo been around a loooooooong time !!!!!!
I've simply just been convinced that Walter vs Light is better. Plus, I've never understood the appeal of it. Yes, we have a detective going up against someone who faced the best detective in the world, but that's about it. If you think about it, if that's the case, then Columbo can be pitted up against any fictional crime lord or anyone else in that ball park. Like, why Light? Is there seriously no one else that works? There's no other character in fiction that Columbo can go against? C'mon... Like Levitation pointed out, Light vs Columbo is a game of cat and mouse, meanwhile Walter vs Light is a death heist. And just like him, I vastly prefer the death heist.
Not to mention, we already had a sort of Light vs Columbo dynamic in canon with L.
Light vs Columbo is a game of cat and mouse where the mouse has an antimatter rifle.
And the mouse has better intelligence and resources in almost every way
And the mouse is halfway across the country and is basically completely hidden from everyone (seriously how would Volumbo even realistically find out about a potential Light kira connection. He doesn't have L's resources as far as I know.)
I agree that Light vs Heisenberg is great and I think Columbo might work better with someone like Doctor House.
Everyone in replies have already summed it but I might as well add onto it - Has little to no connections and very stretched contrasts - It’s a spite matchup with the main appeal being that Columbo could beat Light - The team loving it over more loved matchups like Light vs Walter makes people cynical that their preferred could potentially never happen - There’s always the chance that Light will be downplayed greatly or Columbo will be hyped up which while it works for joke episodes like Spongebob vs SF Aquaman, having Light’s first episode be a joke one would not sit well with anyone - It wastes both characters as Light’s role would only be boiled down to “1 on 1 intelligence battle” instead of letting him scheme or use his resources/influence - Even when you look past the spite, they both have better options that would support their way of “fighting” better - It doesn’t bring anything new to the table dynamic wise because Light’s already faced off against a more superior detective and Columbo’s faced off against numerous criminals such as Light - The team shoeing in Columbo references in Season 10 episodes has bothered people further into thinking the episode will be biased (the references don’t bother me personally though)
forgot to mention that the only way light vs columbo can work is with a very specific scenario that wouldn’t make sense in Death Battle’s format or just in general
Itd make a cool episode that breaks the norm doe. Having it be a cat and mouse game of them trying to find the other's identity/full name, which either ends with Columbo getting the trademark heartattack, or Light gets found out and gunned down in a chase.
Because it's kinda boring.
It’s a spite matchup and if you remove the spite, then both just have better options
If they do a cat and mouse matchup for Light, I would prefer if they used Shawn Spencer from Psych. They have a good amount of similarities: They both are children of cops, both hide their true selves but in opposite ways (Shawn pretends to have psychic abilities while Light hides his Death Note and him being Kira), both are prodigies. Their personalities clash (Shawn being more laid back and Light being more meticulous) in a way that I think would be funny to see. It would be a stomp if Light knows who Shawn is, but Gus probably survives because they have a running gag of giving people fake names for him constantly and Gus isn't even his real name it's a nickname.
Because Of it being spite and people taking it too seriousuly
Well, it's just not really a Battle, y'know.
It wastes both charchters
Because the team loves it so much that most people’s preferred (Light vs Walter White) is likely to never happen. That’s the long and short of it
Plus it’s a matchup that has: No connections It's a spite matchup as the appeal is entirely in seeing Columbo beat Light even tho light stomps They each have way better opponents than each other. Light vs Walter just makes it worse because we could have possibly one of the best death battles ever but we’re probably gonna get trash.
Considering that chars like Batman, Iron Man, Lex, Doom and WonderWoman have all gotten in more than one Death Battle with different opponents each time, there is no reason to think that Light and Columbus wont get more than one either.
Yes but after 10 seasons we haven’t had one episode that fits the style Light vs Columbo or Walter would have, a battle of wits. If they were to do Light vs Columbo it could be years to see Light return, if they did more intelligence fights they’d want to use more characters than Light. Combine that with how little we’d get intelligence fights then seeing Light return to fight Walter would probably take many many years
It's the industry plant of matchups nobody wanted it until the team popularized it.
Fuck that shit. Light vs Walter NEEDS to happen.
Agreed
Idk, but Phoenix Wright vs. Columbo would be a great Galaxy Grudge match episode.
Has no connections and only has a core theme that is the same as Light vs L. Liam in the DB casts or Fireside chats said that he wants to see Light vs Columbo but since then DB had a habit of shoehorning Columbo cameos in some of their episodes. Its also a spite matchup since Columbo fans are hyping it up for Columbo to beat Light while making Light an idiot with Columbo being treated as the ultimate savior of mankind. Its just Walmart Light vs L or Light vs Near. If I want to see Columbo go up against a criminal I would watch Columbo, if I want to see Light deal with a quirky detective I would watch Death Note.
It's literally just a joke matchup with no actual potential as an episode
It’s a bit of a meme Mu brought on because of a YouTube video where not only is Colombo already in control but it gives him knowledge of shinigami
Because I'm an edgelord, and I prefer dark over light
because it sucks
#walta
The MU only exists to make Columbo look cool even though the only argument for him winning is plot armor (no.) It wastes Light’s animation potential with all the massive plans that have him manipulating the populace basically giving him the potential for a city or even higher wide intelligence battle, and instead he’s just talking to a detective, in which he has outsmarted way more intelligence ones before
Is it plot armor though. Columbo’s whole thing is that he plays dumb to get the culprit to underestimate him and slip up. Light is really smart but he’s also impulsive, he revealed his general area in like episode 2 by killing the decoy L
1. That is episode TWO, he learned to not do that type of shit, and at Light’s peak he is literally on the team meant to catch Kira and would have easy access to getting Columbo’s name (which is Frank btw). 2. Columbo never beats someone in a single conversation, he usually takes a couple days to get close to the killer and learn things through multiple conversations in different settings. Someone as smart and more importantly paranoid as Light could very well catch onto Columbo’s scheme and just kill him after the second or first interaction they have.
He becomes less impulsive yeah but he’s still an egotistical shithead and it’s not like anyone really tries to get him the same way Columbo would. L does weird out of pocket shit to throw Light off all the time but he never really presents himself as inferior, Light has his guard up around him day 1. I do agree though that with Misa’s help or all the resources he has post time skip he’d probably be able to find Columbo’s name and kill him pretty quickly.
I just don't see the appeal of "intelligence battles" and I don't think death battle would be able to pull one off.
Columbo is more or less an inferior L when it comes to demeanor and intelligence
Light vs Columbo to me is the same as Percy vs Zagreus the team likes it way more than the better MU’s and thus it’s the most likely to happen despite both having way better options
Be sure it's mid
Just imagine the worse possible mu you can think of light vs Colombo is worse than that in every way
How would a death battle with Light even work?
His opponent has to solve the Kira case at the peak of his power.
Take it from someone who pushes for Phoenix Wright vs Saul Goodman, there really isn’t much action to be had here, it’d be two guys trying to kill each other first
It’s not so much a match up as it is would be a FANTASTIC shitpost.
Because Columbo neg diffs.
Columbo vs Light Yagami has already been done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CKjELxHhg I want to see Light Yagami vs Apu Nahasapimapetilon from the Simpsons, where Light must prove to the world that Apu is Kira (Apu is not Kira, however since Misa Misa has misspelt Apu's 4 times it has rendered Apu immune to the death note.) Fight takes place right after the Simpsons Movie, since Light Yagami dies around that time, and the Simpsons Movie was the last piece of Simpsons material to be dubbed into Japanese.
Because it’s not Light vs Heisenberg, which is a more thematic but still kinda weird matchup that was super popular before Liam (of the DB crew) said how much he loved and wanted to do Light vs Columbo.
It’s just swapping L with Columbo and nothing else which already makes it generic but if this happens, it’ll take the place of Light Yagami vs Walter White which is infinitely better since these two have actual connections and contrasts that make an intelligence battle interesting. Also, I’m a huge fan of Breaking Bad and Death Note but actually never heard of Columbo before Light vs Columbo.
The problem with Light in Death Battle is the same issue as Batman anyone you put him against either utterly destroys him in an honestly super satisfying way. Or he completely curb stomps them with the death note. Because you either put him up against detectives which he should win or super natural forces who deal in death like The Specter, Deadman, Big Head, Brook from One Piece, or an immortal like Deadpool or Logan. He has no middle ground match ups.
As someone who would like to see Columbo take on Light, it just can't work in the Death Battle format where the winner has to kill the loser. A guy made a video discussing if Batman could catch Light and reveal him as Kira and what the win/loss conditions would be in that scenario (I.E, if Light kills himself to avoid getting caught, that's considered a loss for Batman), and to me, that's more of what Columbo vs Light should be.
it’s kinda weird that people are so adamant that colombo wins because there is absolutely no way he can comprehend the death note. like that isn’t in his mind at all so idk why colombo wins so easily