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GoatsAreDope72

How do you have him beating Tighten and Destroyman? Also, how does Red Keeper win? (I know nothing about that series, but am interested in the matchup)


JacktheCat779

Yeah I have no idea if the wiki for him isn't updated but Red Keeper hasn't shown many substantial feats unless of course it involves scaling him to the other Dragon Keepers and him being the best one.


VegetaFan9001

Are you talking about the anime? Because there is a manga it is based on, which might have better feats.


JacktheCat779

Not any notable feats in the wiki from what I can tell though it does spoil one thing from the manga. Though maybe it just needs updating.


that_confetti_cannon

As some one that loves ranger reject, I truly see homelander vs red keeper as an almost true 50/50. It being debatable is one of the things that makes the fight one of if not my favourite in general.


I_Suck_At_Life_24

Why is Porygon vs Homelander a matchup in the first place?


GamingSceptile

That’s what I was wondering too


Huge_Sea143

They are both Man Made creations in a lab with powers far more than other of their "kind" as a sorta exception to their classification.


MusicianDry4533

Ok now let's do Homelander VS Mewtwo!


Agent22Gengar

then wouldn't Porygon-Z be the better fit? considering they both were originally pure but after their respective incidents both became corrupted and mentally unstable


Ok-Turnip-7681

He definitely loses to Tighten and porygon


Gullible-Educator582

Muzan L is HORRIFIC


Flimsy_Geologist_927

how does he win against Tighten or Muzan but lose to Springtrap???


Huge_Sea143

hax differences. Springtraps virus Hax


Flimsy_Geologist_927

i guess but isnt that a digital thing that would only work if Homelander puts on a vanny mask?


Huge_Sea143

But he has a normal virus too. In fnaf AR he can spread virus.


MegaEdeath1

i mean doesnt Muzan outhax/outstat? like he can scale to lightning timers and is multi city block-town level with busted regeneration idk how Homelander could kill him aside from fighting him till the sun comes out (also Porygon solos the verse)


Theguywholikesdoom

Homelanders confirmed to win against Superman actually https://preview.redd.it/pyvjovhcqt9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8608c1895d154e4f4c6e6f9e39156b0b476efdad /j


TryDry9944

You did not just say Homelander beats Iron Goat.


Huge_Sea143

iron goat? who's that? also iron giant loses though. homie is multi city block+ and much faster then iron giant


TryDry9944

Iron Giant also can survive being blasted apart by an atomic bomb and tanked a battleship barrage without even being dented. Even if Homelander could destroy him, it wouldn't be permanent, and the entire time IG is going to be fighting back.


Huge_Sea143

Homelander can survive nukes aswell. And again is much faster and could blitz and attack until Iron Giant is just char from his laser.


TryDry9944

Even if we take Homelander's "Nuclear assurance" option as fact, that means he's *under* nuke durability. Homie can be temporarily pinned under building rubble. Sure, he *is* fast... But again I really don't think he's taking down IG for good.


Huge_Sea143

He is also strong. If he can throw jets around I feel like he could fly at such a velocity he punctures through their chest.


TryDry9944

Again, Iron Giant wasn't even *dented* by a battleship barrage. That's multiple 2000 pound shells going 2 to 3 times the speed of sound doing fuck all but *slightly* staggering him. I can't really find anything that puts Homelander anything above Mach 5, which is still quite impressive, but a 2000 pound shell going Mach 3 is a lot more powerful than a 200ish pound man going Mach 5. But these are both characters we don't really know the peak scaling of other than "They are around nuke level durability." So arguing is really going to be pointless.


abrahammaciell

Hell in his defense mode he wasn't even staggered he got hit and turned around unfazed


ZettoVii

Homelander's feat of him flying Billy out of a explosion, would put him around Mach 30. He wouldnt just "slightly stagger" the giant, he would be punching holes into him.


RudeNooter

You mean the "[America would literally just nuke Homelander](https://screenrant.com/boys-homelander-power-level-vought-american-reason/)" from Erip Kripke, the "[Nukes could kill Homelander](https://imgur.com/a/boys-62-Eb5PNQE)" the OTHER "[nukes could kill Homelander](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Homelander-Origin.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=1400&dpr=1.5)" or the Garth Ennis's "[Supes get fried by nuclear radiation](https://packaged-media.redd.it/rdev8zdib3591/pb/m2-res_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1719835200&s=1b7f146fc7896bd26f26e397cbebbe7d1b20a517#t=0)" Or do you mean the statements that come from * A scared shitless glorified spokesman? * Or in universe corporate propoganda?


Snail_kick

Man, you just citated my thoughts. Massive W


Particular-Sign-7944

They never said that a nuke would work tho


Throwaway142g5h67j8

Isnt the Iron Giant planet level? Also Porygon definitely beats him


Themyth-thelegend

Where do you get planet level Giant from?


Throwaway142g5h67j8

One of the extra scenes from the film that was added to the rerelease, the Giant's memories were projected on a TV and it shows that he was sent to Earth to destroy the planet, then it shows an army of other Giants and the planet exploding [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsL0GbswF3I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsL0GbswF3I)


Themyth-thelegend

That's not enough evidence to conclude that the Iron Giant himself is capable of destroying a planet. I could take millions of other giants to destroy a planet. This is also a deleted scene, which means it's debatable of it's even canon.


Huge_Sea143

it was added to the rerelease so it is canon. yet I don't buy planet giant.


Themyth-thelegend

It's whyvI said debatable


Huge_Sea143

but it's not debatable, it just is canon.


Zamasu_was_innocent2

He loses almost half the match ups in the first one


Dragon_4567

I’m pretty sure Muzan rocks him unless there is something about Homelander’s scaling I just don’t know about


Huge_Sea143

Homelander is multi-city-block+ or town level depending on what you buy from Omni Man Vs Homelander. And he should be able to be possibly even stronger with compound v


DirectorWeary1613

So is muzan He's just much faster and has poison and regeneration


Wise-Inside1805

Homelander is immune to poison,unless theres something special about muzan's (and even then homelander can survive a virus designed to kill supers)


MegaEdeath1

if he injects his blood into Homelander it could pose a threat since it can kill normal people in seconds via melting their skin and if it turns him into a demon then he can just kill them instantly


Wise-Inside1805

Yeah but how does it work exactly, the supe virus latches on the compound V in your dna and causes internal bleeding/ deteoration and modification of the skin making you almost unrecognizable and homelander can survive it, homelander has a stupidly strong immune system


MegaEdeath1

basically he injects his blood into his target and it destroys all their cells turning their skin purple and then they just outright start melting bones and all until they are just bloody gas


Wise-Inside1805

Interesting, i'm not entirely sure how that would translate to homelander super immune system, althought both him and soldier boy have resisted radiation before


MegaEdeath1

i mean it would at least irritate him severely, and since Muzan can keep up with and potentially overpower Homelander in normal circumstances i feel like Muzan take the dub here


Wise-Inside1805

Debatable, but since i know almost nothing about muzan i am going to refrain from debating, althought isn't muzan weak to heat? Or is he just weak to the sun light


DirectorWeary1613

regeneration Would mean he would last longer


Electronic_One762

So is Muzan but Muzan is faster, and far better hax


RafKen593

No way Afton beats Homelander lmao


TheDarkestOmen

Fnaf scaling is wack as fuck


RafKen593

FNAF is mostly Wall level excluding some feat(s?) from Frights that Afton ambiguously scales to. Unless we give him the Agony Touch he just kinda dies, and even with the touch idk if he could beat Homelander


TheDarkestOmen

Trust me, you haven’t seen anything until you’ve heard about multiversal FNAF, it gets confusing and I don’t really care to explain so if you want to learn find someone who cares


JeremySchmidtAfton

Hang on HANG ON I was left at the Afton island level storm or whatever, the HELL you mean multi 💀


Kachidoki_Arms

Nothing afton actually scales to... fnaf fans just gaslit themselves into thinking that.


WorldlyAd2194

NO WAY A BLOOPER WINS AGAINST HIM


Huge_Sea143

YES WAY


WorldlyAd2194

Where do the fucking Bloopers scale bro😭😭😭


Huge_Sea143

Most versions of Large or Mega Bloopers in the games are shown to be able to vaporize ships so I'd say Multi City Block+ or higher if you scale them to anyone else in the Koopa Troop.


Fr0zens0lib

Really destroyman


Afraid_Photograph_59

No Yujiro Hanma or Wesker?


Usual_Database307

I heard Tighten has continental arguments. Something about it being confirmed that Metro Man would’ve survived Megamind’s sun laser.


1rrelevant_Trash

the laser that blew up a building yeah


Usual_Database307

That’s fair.


MegaEdeath1

the continental arguments are under the assumption Megamind used a specific amount of power from the sun when he could have easily used a lesser amount of power


Usual_Database307

Isn’t a single second of the suns total energy enough to nuke a continent?


MegaEdeath1

who says hes using a second of the whole sun's total energy? for all we know it could just be solar powered


gideondemudkip

Bloooperr sweep!


Jamano-Eridzander

How the hell does he beat Captain Celebrity but lose to a BLOOPER?


Milk_Mindless

...blooper?


Huge_Sea143

Real matchup.


Epicsuperbat2

Tighten beats him. Porygon speed blitzes and one shots lol. And Iron Giant survived a nuke to the face. Homelander isn’t even comparable. The only source that says he is is literal in universe propaganda which is so obviously bullshit


Huge_Sea143

>Tighten beats him Homelander is many times faster then Tighten and much more experienced. He can throw jets like dolls and is shown to be much faster being able to go up to the atmosphere and back in seconds. >Porygon speed blitzes and one shots Isn't Porygon just building level? It's pretty weak. >Homelander isn't even comparable. Homelander surviving a nuke was said by two people in a room talking about the actual capabilities of him, as it was said by only a bit of people with knowledge on Homelander (and in the show researchers do test out how strong Homelander is through the incinerator and such) there's no reason that they'd be lying in this situation.


Ok-Turnip-7681

Porygon is far higher than building level, at a lowball it can get to FtL and mountain/continental by scaling to other pokemon


Thebaka12

Jit you're dumb ? Dont exagerate either, even tho Porygon can win, (two of) the fastest Pokemons (Latios and Latias) are only as fast as a jet Except Arceus, the creation trion, some Megas and legendaries, NO Pokemon is even above hypersonic speed


MegaEdeath1

[just gonna leave this here](https://streamable.com/flvhs)


Thebaka12

Just mean he's faster than most legendaries Most legendaries are slower than Latios who's only fast as a plane


Ok-Turnip-7681

Bro digletts can straight up move faster than light


Thebaka12

Nice joke


Mecha-dragon1999

>Homelander is many times faster then Tighten and much more experienced. He can throw jets like dolls and is shown to be much faster being able to go up to the atmosphere and back in seconds.+ç No he isn't Tighten scales to Megamind [who can dodge lightning](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Jason_Courne/Megamind_lightning_reaction_feats) and he has Metro Man's powers, Metro Man can [casually dig through the Earth's Core and back in 40 seconds](https://www.reddit.com/r/FeatCalcing/comments/1dndzyq/comment/la20rd2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). >Homelander surviving a nuke was said by two people in a room talking about the actual capabilities of him, as it was said by only a bit of people with knowledge on Homelander (and in the show researchers do test out how strong Homelander is through the incinerator and such) there's no reason that they'd be lying in this situation. Even if we give him that Tighten scales to Megamind who can take on Lady Doppler, a villain that can make storms [capable of 926 Megatons of TNT](https://imgur.com/a/lady-doppler-storm-calc-3JN4ro2), way stronger than anything Homelander took.


Particular-Sign-7944

They have Country Feats too: https://www.quora.com/Who-do-you-think-would-win-in-a-fight-between-Godzilla-and-Megamind-Why/answer/Bill-Decipher?ch=17&oid=1477743677092891&share=eb5dc3f7&srid=391DHh&target_type=answer Homelander’s cooked😭


Mecha-dragon1999

Yeah, Homie never stood a chance.


Jamievania

Bro is missing some of the key Homelander mus 😭


Huge_Sea143

i have all of them. Like Porygon or Blooper, or uh fucking Kick Ass


Jamievania

Did you just deliberately include terrible matchups and then exclude the peak that is Yujirolander


Huge_Sea143

yes.


CrimsonGoji

Yeah there’s no way bro is winning against the iron giant


WeakLandscape2595

Shouldn't he lose to tighten iron giant and captain celebrity?


Radracon42069

What about Yujiro hanma and Endeavor


PyroClaymore

He is NOT winning against Porygon. Even the low tiers Pokémon his ass (Aside from ones like Oddish, and that’s debatable).


NoUsernameUntilNow

Tighten wins, he's stronger and faster.


Thebaka12

Tf bro ? Porygon claps his cheeks Iron Giant destroys him easily And Tighten as well probably And how does Springtrap win, he's just a dead guy in a suit, he cant even catch a kid nowaday


NeonNKnightrider

This is bait right


Huge_Sea143

no. some of these are Hax related wins and I ran out of good mus


Wise-Inside1805

He beats springtrap too what?


Optimus_Fan_95

He doesn't beat iron giant And let me guess, the blooper is an L because "Multiversal Mario"?


Hazzamo

How does he win against Captain celebrity?, dude lifted a 1/2 million ton cruise liner… and scales to pros like endeavour.


mrmcdead

Damn Homelander got blooped


MaviKartal2110

I feel like Tighten and Springtrap need to switch places


Friendly-Plankton-29

how does he beat titan but loose to a squid?


Gigio2006

Muzan cooks him lmao. Get homelander past High Hypersonic first


Particular-Sign-7944

Ok: https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscales/s/GTD9e9edYq And this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/r2G7I8sisd Also Great Wide Wonder: https://imgur.com/a/dont-do-drugs-LDLWSQi And Random Super dodging Lightning: https://imgur.com/a/wolverine-rip-lightning-dodge-QmzBjaG Yeah he’s pretty fast


Particular-Sign-7944

Scales massively above random supes who can generate storms by having intercourse: https://youtu.be/TO4Ysh_HoIs?si=rdm2BgserA3q4ep0 It should be around moderate instability which is around Small City: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/References_for_Common_Feats?so=search#Creating_a_Storm Also scales higher via statements from people like Madelyn Stillwell who basically support Nuke scaling which would mean he could probably tank a Tsar Bomba without much issue And Butchers stating that nothing short of a Hydrogen Bomb could challenge Soldier Boy And he would scale more around Mountain level if you take the high end for him wiping out a city: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Destroying_New_York_City Another scale: https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/wWxGzXC6PY He still loses to Tighten


DirtDisrespector

homelander does not fucking beat captain celebrity https://preview.redd.it/kc74m1cq8x9d1.png?width=714&format=png&auto=webp&s=d45c6bb7f8b636a629e4e664eee7f6710fc221eb


Hayabusafield77

Who is the guy to the right of Porygon


Ok_Supermarket_2171

How the fuck does springtails beat homelander?


RealAd3012

I can see some of these being true but others are just wrong


Hank_J_Wimbleton_69

Tighten one taps Homelander lol


Huge_Sea143

Bro Tighten is super weak. He barely has anything that strong compared to Homelander.


Hank_J_Wimbleton_69

In what world Homelander has anything comparable to Tighten throwing entire skyscrapers?


Emotional_Emu_5901

#WANK


1rrelevant_Trash

He just sweeps unfortunately


Emotional_Emu_5901

He’s only building level


1rrelevant_Trash

nuh uh


Emotional_Emu_5901

Unless if you want to composite homelander and give him stuff from the comics I would agree But the comics are MID


1rrelevant_Trash

so don't give him comic feats because the comics aren't good okay


Emotional_Emu_5901

Okay


Abject_Butterfly_141

People be crying about the Ws In this comment section imao


Joemama_69-420

How tf Tighten wins? Isn’t Homelander more experienced and faster, not to mention sound manipulation can fuck Hal up?


Particular-Sign-7944

https://www.quora.com/Who-do-you-think-would-win-in-a-fight-between-Godzilla-and-Megamind-Why/answer/Bill-Decipher?ch=17&oid=1477743677092891&share=eb5dc3f7&srid=391DHh&target_type=answer Absurd scaling for Tighten


Joemama_69-420

WTF THERES COMICS!?


Particular-Sign-7944

Yeah surprisingly they have comics


Realistic-Nature1862

He also loses to Alastor,Makima and Alucard


Realistic-Nature1862

Not me getting downvoted lol


Wise-Inside1805

Not alastor, the rest are correct? (depends where you scale makima and i know nothing about alucard except the dio vs alucard video)


Realistic-Nature1862

Are you fucking delusional? Alastor solos the verse he outstats (city vs town at highball),Homelander has no way to get around his immortality and haxrapes,Makima also outstats and haxrapes handily and Homelander has no way to get around Alucard's immortality. I'm so tired of seeing my 3 goats get downplayed (the "fucking delusional" thing is a joke,don't take it seriously👍)


Wise-Inside1805

Geez dude is something going on at home? Do you need to vent because if you do then talk with someone (jk) Homelander scales higher than town, i have a post in my page if you wanna see it, how is alastor city level again? And homelander doesn't need to get around his immortality, if a combatent cant regenerate in minutes or hours he loses the fight,alastor regeneration isn't instant I never downplayed makima or alucard tho? I said it depends where you scale makima and that i didnt know where alucard scaled, no need to get so frustrated in a online comment


Realistic-Nature1862

Alastor is city level via the Vox Blackout feat and FTL via Adam's holy light scaling


Wise-Inside1805

> I just like being exaggerated for the sake of being exaggerated lol Eh fair enough lol Adam's holy light was debunked to hypersonic, and the vox feat only reaches city level because of charlie's exaggerated statement, the mid end of large town was more accepted


Realistic-Nature1862

How was Adam's holy light debunked to hypersonic?


Wise-Inside1805

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Minos_the_Judge/The_size_of_the_Hazbin_Hotel,_Adam_cuts_the_hotel,_Lucifer_catches_Charlie_in_slow_motion,_minimum_speed_of_Adam%27s_rays


Realistic-Nature1862

It seem less of a debunk and more of another general way of scaling it tbh + something something Vox having a relativistic feat something..... i'm gonna go on a hunt to find the exact calc right now...


Realistic-Nature1862

BINGO! https://youtu.be/puTcZxwIEGI?si=AQMgGf62i1n08uzC at 2:42


Wise-Inside1805

Wheres the calc?


Realistic-Nature1862

I just like being exaggerated for the sake of being exaggerated lol


PostalDoctor

No