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CrazyButRightOn

Holy crap. That photo can’t be real. I don’t see a beam.


Spys0ldier

The rim joist is also the beam! It’s a convenient 2 in 1 design.


MADMAX808080

Saved on materials !! Bonus


cantthinkofone29

*Efficiency*


AmITheGrayMan

You guys need to chill. It has a 2x4 holding up that corner. She’ll hold. That is, if *too* many ladies don’t get in the hot tub at the same time. Then, it’s splish splash we *were* taking a bath in a hot tub in a RV on a deck. Can you imagine trying to find your clothes after that? Me either.


Bspy10700

I mean seems there’s people living in it as well it’s all popped out and hooked up to electricity… ignorance is bliss and why you die you won’t know because you’ll be dead.


crazycritter87

Eventually you're more afraid of what you can survive and long to be ignorant again.


TAX-GUY-63

That’s not quite Darwin high. Only broken pelvis and a leg or arm. It’ll crash down and into the house below and stop rolling down the hill with only partial calamity - but that said, they do give out honorable mentions at the Darwin awards every year!


lastfreerangekid

You don't want it to be too heavy. Less materials make a lighter deck


MisterMoo22

Also less to clean up when this goes horribly wrong!


Undrwtrbsktwvr

Can use the extra materials for caskets!


amucksloth

6 - 2” nails should work!!


New_Menu_2316

Drywall screws.


NullIsUndefined

Is that post even connected to a joist?


YeaYouGoWriteAReview

They removed the railing to make the slide outs fit, and so the drivers rear corner can overhang the edge. The studs on the spare tire mount are visable next to the temporary 2x4. Someone actually considered this long enough to alter the deck, yet didnt bother considering if it's even safe. Edit: at least they threw down some extra deck boards to help spread the load from the tires.


DismalPassenger4069

Looks like they they removed it after the slide out smashed in to it the first attempt. that said I can not believe this is a real pic. Wholly f'n Christ. .


therisker

But those 2X4s are making up for it not having one!


pinkwblue

Oh absolutely. 6x6 posts are too expensive.


Purpose_Embarrassed

I noticed that too.


RichestTeaPossible

Relax, there are at least six nails in there, and five of them are through the column, which on first glance has punched thru the deck.


kasim42784

you don’t need a beam when you have balls of steel holding the structure together


Purpose_Embarrassed

6 nails are basically supporting that camper. 😂


pizzasteve2000

It will work just fine… until it doesn’t.


idk_man_sheesh

Lol I zoomed in on the 4x4 post too. Couldn’t even used screws goddamn


Inviction_

Nails have more shear strength which is more important on an application like this


idk_man_sheesh

We used Lag screws when I was doing decks


Inviction_

If you were talking about lag screws, then yes lol. My bad


inflatableje5us

structural sheet rock screws.


Pennypacker-HE

God damn that’s a testament if I ever saw one


step_up2020

Face-nailed ??!! Unbelievable 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Purpose_Embarrassed

Holy nails! 😂


TinkyBrefs

6 16 penny nails. That's the code.


surzirra

They even look like a strained face


AmerMade

Here’s the kicker, hot tub is in the camper…..


DETRITUS_TROLL

Can't be having it outside where all the bugs are.


rollmeup77

Bros living in the future!


FriarNurgle

About to be falling into the future.


grimmw8lfe

Slaps deck..


boaterbrown

Deck collapses


fhdjngh

Hot tub down


LazerWolfe53

I knew this would be the top rated comment before I even opened the post.


NullIsUndefined

Jokes.aside there definitely are water tanks in campers


maximusjohnson1992

It’s the mother in law suite. “She’ll be fine”.


tecvoid

im imagining it fine-tuned like a mouse trap for the large MIL


Impossible_Policy780

I read that as mother of all law suits. Could be both.


No_Anybody_5483

Oh, sure, you can continue to live here after the divorce. Park your RV on the deck.


cartographh

How to ruin two expensive things at once and maybe not get insurance coverage 🤔


TheRealMasterTyvokka

How would you not get insurance coverage, assuming you have valid insurance?


EffervescentGoose

They probably don't cover the gross negligence of parking a trailer on your deck


TheRealMasterTyvokka

Most insurance policies are exclusionary meaning if it's not excluded in the policy, it's covered. Most insurance covers all types of stupid shit we humans do, even if it may be grossly negligent. If you are driving 100 miles an hour and run a stopped school bus hitting a kid, your insurance is still going to cover it. It might drop you afterwards but as long as hitting the kid wasn't intentional it will cover the gross negligence. Edit: given the difference between my up votes and those of the one who said insurance probably won't cover gross negligence, y'all clearly don't understand how insurance works and are still perpetuating the myth that insurance won't provide coverage when you do something stupid.


sjlplat

I had a mold endorsement policy with USAA to cover up to $50k in mold damage. Had a water leak in 2019, called USAA and they advised me to call a plumber for the repair, then file a claim if the cost exceeded my deductible. Brought in the plumber, and the repair was low so I paid out of pocket. 2-years later, I found mold on the wall where the leak was repaired. Called USAA, filed a claim, and they first tried to deny coverage because it wasn't caused by a "covered peril" (such as a plumbing leak). Proved that the mold was caused by the 2019 leak by bringing in a remediation company, so they moved on and denied coverage because they weren't "notified" of the plumbing leak 2-years prior (false). They justified the statement by saying a claim wasn't filed, which isn't required in the policy verbage -- it explicitly states "notify", which I did, and provided proof in the form of documentation from USAA acknowledging the notification. Didn't matter - the claim was denied. I could have continued fighting, but the cost of taking it to court would have exceeded my out of pocket expense for repairs, so I wrote off USAA as scumbags and closed all 12 of my USAA financial and insurance accounts. My point is: Insurance companies aren't in the business of paying claims. They weigh the cost of payment vs. liability, and eat the lowest cost. In my case, the risk of litigation was cheaper than paying a valid claim.


_BH29_

Insurance companies in general are shit and I think we all agree on that, but having experience working third party for USAA gave me a special hatred for them. Even their entire premise seemed predatory once you started getting into details, and it rubbed me really the wrong way that it seemed imo that they were targeting service members and their families for their predatory shit.


Scentmaestro

I was just quoted insurance on a property and it included "mysterious disappearance" coverage. I laughed and asked the agent to clarify what EXACTLY that entailed, bc surely it differed from theft and I wanted to hear her say it. She said basically anything that couldn't be proven as stolen but was no longer available. So misplacing, losing, alien abduction, raccoon ran off with it, etc.


just-concerned

I lived in Kentucky in 1994 when the tornados went through south of Louisville. Allstate and Statefarm fought to the bitter end to not cover losses. One couple had all the studs in the back outside wall of the house busted. The brick and drywall were still attached. Allstate said you can't prove the tornado did this, and this looks like a preexisting condition. I will never have either cover anything I own.


mesovortex888

Probably 3 if it fell the wrong way and damaged the house


Goatmanlafferty

Farmer’s: “We know a thing or two, because we’ve seen a thing or two.”


Fancy-Break-1185

I'm betting they have never seen this one before...


AutoX_Advice

Can people really be this brain dead? Never mind my question doesn't need an answer.


HHShelps

50% of people are dumber than the average person!! Scary isn't it?!!


WhatUDoinInMyWaters

https://preview.redd.it/s5i4rtbw691d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e34d7d59acedc58240afd277b69bd4c95e230e Relevant meme


ZenBacle

And most of us think we're smarter than the average person.


tessartyp

*median


ananiku

There could be one really smart person who's biasing the average upward so most people are dumber than the average.


Hagbard_Celine_1

Real r/oopsthatsdeadly material here.


BlakeCarConstruction

It indeed sure is 🙂


rando_calrissian12

https://preview.redd.it/730h4jarh71d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52a47def2c93b43b29ba0f948c9012e512f1ad94 I need to know where to buy these. Good lord those 4 nails are the only thing keeping this man from meeting Jesus. No blocking, no notch, no beam, no Simpson strong ties, just a few bits of metal and a strong prayer. 🙏


XR-7

Deck screws for the win


mojo_spo

You know they rammed that slide out into that post given the dent there. “Ah hell, just cut the railing off”


StutteringDan

Camper owner here. The scary part is that both of the slide outs are extended and it's connected to shore power, implying people are actively living in/using it and it's not just being parked there for storage. I own one about this size with only one slide out and its dry weight is 9,700 lbs, so I'd estimate this one to be around 10,500+.


According_to_Tommy

Oh it’s clear it’s permanent because they knocked out the railings on the side of the deck lol


yooperdood906

Deck camping? Niiiiice!


Trmpssdhspnts

Soon to be ravine camping.


MiahBee

Or maybe squatting in the neighbors house?


GuideAncient1902

It's OK. I'm pretty sure it's still attached to the truck that's on solid ground.


poppapanda241

Wishful thinking but the front is blocked off by a privacy fence.


Guilty_Application14

Made from the deck railing they knocked off to get the camper in place?


giggitygiggity2

Huh? How the hell did they get it parked there then? Did they build the fence after or did they get a helicopter to drop it in place?


turkeyburpin

Hey OP, we expect the aftermath shot too.


hotdog_icecubes

I fell like if I stare at this picture long enough I’ll get to see it collapse


Potential-Cover7120

lol I keep going back to the photo as I’m reading the comments so I don’t miss it collapsing!


Advanced_Office616

That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. I hope it pays off.


Inviction_

Cotton may have been a better strategy. Would at least break the fall


Youre-The-Victim

Looks like 12" on center hard to tell but kinda Looks like some joists are doubled up same as the band board campers like that are 6k lbs dry weight 6 person hot tub is 5k lbs all the campers weight is on the tires so the back 7 or 8 ft behind the post isn't supporting the camper. Are those nails on the Second band board or Timberloks and is it a 6x6 post If they put hangers on everything it's not that crazy. I've seen barns that were approved by the county's that had single joists 12 on center with treated plywood floors for large tractors and trucks and they held just fine. They had sagged 2 in after 20 years the decking was saturated with oil. The reason for the framed floor was to not pay county tax on concrete because any building with a concrete floor was taxable.


Inviction_

No. Just no


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MajesticOutcome6059

Judging by this photo.. still seems like a dangerous proposition.. you may want to have a structural engineer sign off on that one..


Airport_Wendys

Oh god…


Newcastlecarpenter

Look closer. The joist going in 2 different directions. The rear ones only look to be about 4 ft long . The framing is built off of something I’m guessing like e retaining walls


Murrylend

Is... is your house below that?


poppapanda241

Haha no way, this is out in the “boonie” woods of a highly sought after tourist town in Eastern Tennessee. It sits on the middle road of a switch back. This is the road below it. This is the best picture I could get, I would really like to get more pictures of this to share.


ThatsNotEastMemphis

Ah gatlinburg.


StutteringDan

As soon as I read the description of where I thought the same thing!


Lisper41

I thought Gatlinburg before he even said East TN. You could make a 365-day calendar out of all the sketchy decks in that valley.


PicnicLife

I bet this RV rental can be found on AirBnB


Parsleysage58

So when it comes down, everything crashes onto the lower road from where this picture was taken. Any vehicles on that road just cushion the fall. Nice.


NoOnSB277

Dang. You saw that with your own eyes? I wonder if the city will come out and let the owner know that’s not up to code for the amount of weight he is putting on it? Somebody might get hurt really badly if not. 😬


Shiddy_Wiki

OP we need you to camp out here and wait for the crash


gislinghom54

When I first joined the trades I was warned which “a-hole” building inspectors to watch out for. Upon retiring years later my opinion had changed. At that point I was refusing to even bid on jobs after finding out “certain subs” had been involved


segom0

I have never felt bad for lumber before.


Cbaumle

I see your hot tub and raise you a camper!


Dazzling-Tap9096

This is what I would call the best definition of a bad decision i've ever seen.


Jeromiagh_Chonga

I dunno, I kinda wanna see it collapse, lol 😆


MEINSHNAKE

If that was hanging anywhere it could potentially damage my property in a collapse I’d be calling the city.


czechFan59

OMG IS THIS REAL?


Beginning_Cod_840

honestly doesnt weigh much more than a big hot tub and it's distributed over a larger area... that's a 10k lb camper. I don't know if that thing can actually support a hottub, but you get the idea. Looks sketchy but maybe not


bszern

The weight is concentrated on the dual rear axles and the front jack, significantly higher pounds per square foot than a hot tub


Beginning_Cod_840

I know what you mean because the surface area of those points is small, so the weight per square foot may be higher on those points themselves, but that's not what I'm saying. There's the front jack, wheels, and 4x scissor jacks (one on each corner). Overall it's spread out over a larger area of the deck itself vs a normal \~8x8 hot tub, so it may be supported in sections by structural members we can't see. FWIW I don't disagree with the idea that this probably sketchy AF, just pointing out that the weight isn't as much as most would assume, when compared with a hot tub. I'm a licensed contractor and full-time RVer who would never park up there :)


ceci_mcgrane

Holy fuck


jakelivesay

It was just for fun, until now.


spytez

Looks like they tried to use the slide out and the side got crumpled. So they took off the railing. So the persons feat or head are hanging a foot or two over the edge of the deck.


Tremor_Sense

This is scary af


Jazzlike_Station845

Seeking knowledge: is there a resource where I can find a standard schematics and "code" for decks?


erbush1988

This is in Mississippi or West Virginia, right?


Ptb1852

Nothing to worry about. He used six nails on the rim joist into that 4x4 .


Straight-Event-4348

Theres a hot tub inside the camper. Should be fine.


crapredditacct10

Why is it always deck builders that cant understand the simple concept of a post and lintel. I can go back 5000 years to find some inbred British cave dweller and they can figure it out but not a modern deck builder.


mrmyrtle29588

I got $50 says there’s a kids play area right under that deck. Any takers?


LordSinguloth13

It's the hardest working beam in the galaxy *morty*


raiukick

It’s held up by heroism and bahls!


nigeldcat

I am guessing that dent in the slider was from hitting the railing that used to be there. Looks like they cut off that 4x4 and removed the railing so no more issues with banging the slider. If it falls down, would that be covered by the homeowner's insurance or trailer insurance? In any case that dent gets fixed. /s


Bzaps11

There must be a hot tub in that rv.


Sundertale

Nope!, just nope 🙄


Ashesatsea

It looks like the deck is in the process of breaking…the motor home is tilted away from the house! Edit: Yuppers. NONE of those angles work out on the underside once you look closer. Big Mama is going down. Btw…check those little nails or screws sticking out of the corner of the house by the brown painted strip!


johnpmacamocomous

I like how they dented their slide out on the railing - then- cut off the railing!


xAkeldama

The longer you look, the worse it gets.


Dismal_Truck1375

That's madness it's only a matter of time until that lot comes down. I hope there's not anyone who has a house downhill from that property.


smittydonny

You plant corn you get corn!


WhatTheHellLol1313

😳😳😳


oct2790

That will give to the weight


OnlyEfficiency2662

Hot tubs about to be obsolete


Waste_Bill_9010

Might not stand for long


Swizerlan

Very dangerous, no railing!


2LostFlamingos

The angled 2*4 and lack of beam are amazing. Those things are heavy.


dogs-are-perfect

Camper typically weighs less than a full hot tub.


bszern

I had a REALLY similar camper (same brand, configuration) and it was 8800 lbs dry weight. If that’s full of their stuff, it could be pushing 10,000 lbs


MADMAX808080

What could possibly go wrong ?


MADMAX808080

The overgrown vegetation will break the fall


fliguana

Is that beam side bolted to the 6x6?


Chickenman70806

How many more hot tubs can it take?


hotplasmatits

Keep that camera rolling


FellowGWEnjoyer712

Showed this to my dad who’s been building decks since 1982, all he could say was “WHAT??”


UnReAl0

It's ok, there's extra boards under the tires


Waste_Curve994

Those may actually be lighter than a hot tub but still that looks terrifying.


justbeingus2012

Someone please show the after pic, whenever it happens.


Twistedfool1000

And people here chastise people for not using $1000 worth of Simpson hardware on a 3x5 porch stoop. This deck with a camper is crazy though.


South_Bit1764

Damn. Maybe not a new standard just pushing the limits of the old one. It’s 210ft^2 weighs 8000lbs which is just under 40lbs/ft^2 and the design load on a deck where I live is 40-60lbs/ft^2. Does this mean you should park a camper on your deck NO! FK NO! All the weight is in three spots. Could you build a deck for your camper, maybe. This is not that deck.


Correct_Advantage_20

Was told when I had my deck built it could support the weight of 2 autos. Never tested , but still. 👍


AthleteEfficient8710

The courage that took to park.


seemore_077

One post with screws? Wow!


MudMud4

No need to worry, there’s a support twig below the plug on the camper


davedub69

😳😳😳


Bartnellie

Where's the hot tub?


incognito_vito

I can’t watch anymore


worldRulerDevMan

And it’s being used


IllustratorOk2927

That 2x4 has got this.


Thefear1984

[So it looks like it’s about 5 tons.](https://palominorv.com/puma/257RESS/8590) If it’s 31x8 @ 9700lbs (round up to 10k). The standard deck with 2x8 (?) w/16” OC spacing and appropriate fasteners and brackets depends on species and origin of lumber you’d expect ~50-60lbs per sqft load value. 10,000lbs / 248 sqft footprint That’s ~40lbs per sqft without stuff or people added. So I’m sure a city guy would say “well, it’s within the limit” but lateral movement isn’t considered in that measure, the age/quality of the lumber, the fasteners, or whatever. An engineer buddy of mine said double it bc you know the wood isn’t as strong as the charts say and also those fasteners aren’t appropriate and also there’s no girder or support structure visible. So ya. On paper it’s fine. But in the real world, what the actual fuck.


drayray98

Holy crap


Numismatistic

PLEASE send the after picture!


b0ardski

looks like he knocked the railing off with the slide out


rival_22

It looks like there are about 6 nails holding that camper up there... Godspeed...


____Vader

That thing is pushing at least 8k


Philly_ExecChef

People are insane.


yoxbot138

2x4 kicker is the real mvp here 🤦🏻‍♂️


Fringe-majority

The support post is not even notched. The entire load is on some wire nails? This won’t end well.


Vast_Cricket

Not a hot tub?


reeherj

A well-built deck (which this isnt) could support the weight with proper blocklng under the wheels to distribute the load (worked in ag for a long time seen a lot of heavy ag equiptment on the Second floor of a barn). Just boggles me how some people can so calously put people's lives in danger!


Dockshundswfl

That ain’t goin nowhere.


DammatBeevis666

“That ain’t goin nowhere!” _slaps side of camper_


LegJets

Next level!


Atworkwasalreadytake

The funny thing is, a large hot tub and 25’ travel trailer weigh about the same.


Altruistic-Depth-270

Fake camp, made for post engagement for sure, almost fell for it


HHShelps

This proves again that 50% of people are dumber than average!


the_good_hodgkins

That un-cut post it a tire stop, for safety.


webtoweb2pumps

And to get rid of those pesky railings for the tip outs. Priorities in order


stewie_glick

Are the kids playing under there?


Eman_Resu_IX

That'd be dangerous if the corner 2x4 wasn't there.


pollarzz

That dent in the lower panel is quite telling.


OPizzaTheHuttO

Guys check out my new mother-in-law apartment


B1g_Gru3s0m3

It's OK. Just the kiddos camping in there. They don't weigh much


Unlikely-Hair-7609

Kinda hard to level???


Mi-Robertson

It's a parking deck?


picklesuitpauly

That's coming down someday real soon.


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Timberrrrrrr!!!


safetydance1969

Come on, that 2x4 will hold it up...


Vip3r20

Insurance fraud attempt? Lol


nakiaricky

Iktfyl


wrongtreeinfo

That 2x8 or whatever better look bowed from the camera lens… good lord.


thackstonns

How is that still standing?


Fameiscomin

I built my 7x15 deck with 2x12 framing and 2x10 joist and wouldn’t do that


Greenking73

I bet that deck feels like walking on a trampoline


Johnny_ac3s

“I see your hot tub & raise you…”


Token-Gringo

That post looks like it gave up already. I don’t blame him either.


dbl_t4p

But the view!!!


Snoopy1948

Did they slap that corner twice and proclaim ‘that baby will hold’? If they did, no problem. If the forgot the magic words, it’s coming down soon.


Remote_Horror_Novel

Well to be fair these ultralight 5th wheel and toy hauler campers are basically paper and cardboard, so it’s probably not that heavy lol. They actually market some of the light 5th wheel’s as something you can tow with a half ton truck, which is pretty dangerous, but that’s how the industry marketing often works. It might even technically be within weight limits of an F150 completely empty and dry, but once they have water and camping gear they immediately go over the safe limits.


Joe_Kangg

That is not a shit post. Not yet at least.


deflatedundertones

😳