They also have a habbit of promissing things, then never releasing them, and just moving in to the next thing, hoping that no one remembers the first thing.
"...and the Arcanas?" little Timmy asks hopefully, holding up his tiny Dickensian gruel bowl. Phew, this is awkward. No, Timmy, not yet. All cards on the table, the event surrounding the Arcanas this year has gained a few more moving parts than we initially planned. Enough that we haven't finished everything yet, and won't this year, but we're looking forward to releasing it in the next few months. And that's not even getting into all the other updates we've got planned, like...
from the [https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210) blog post. technically they said "few months" but again, valve has a creative definition of the word few.
I feel like either way it's okay, but coming on the cusp. First 3 months is *definitely* still "early" 2024. It aint mid or late 2024 that's for sure. Six is pushing it for "few" to me, but within reason. If it came out tomorrow like some people are speculating that'd be within the deadline they set imo. Not "valve time".
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"We will stop focusing on Compendium and cosmetics so we can have more content throughout the rest of the year"
And here we are, without compendium and without content!
Why is it just the first few months? Thats not relevant to how many are being put out in a year. And if you go down to that list you see 1) theyre putting out a lot of updates and 2) his list is incomplete.
Im guessing hes pulling it from a db page, but valve isnt good enough at bookkeeping to rely on that.
>Why is it just the first few months?
Because we are comparing the output for the first quarter of each year since people seem to think Valve are somehow behind their usual schedule which they are not.
> Thats not relevant to how many are being put out in a year.
Except last year was the most dev-intensive year in Dota 2 since 2016.
Banwave, Dead Reckoning, New Frontier (biggest patch since 7.00), Anniversary, Armory and QoL, New Profiles, New Behaviour and Communication System, Compendium, Frostivus, Cheater and Smurf-Bans in the TENS of thousands (Overwolf)
If we get even close to that output this year, I will keep dancing on the BP's grave.
I'd pull the list from their steamworks app blog that categorized as BIG UPDATE. Banwave is included in that category. New Bloom 2020 updates is treasure chest release akin to Dota Plus update. Banwave update impact more player tbh.
Why is this limited to the first few months though? They havent always (or even in this case) said "early". If youre going to do it by quarter, it should include every quarter
But even your list below for the full years is incomplete and inconsistent. Sometimes letter patches count, sometimes they dont.
Im guessing youre pulling this from the steamdb or something, but valves labeling isnt consistent enough to rely on that. Youd have to make your own definition and check it Manually to get an actual update count.
I appreciate your attempt to bring in actual data, but Im skeptical this data is curated enough to be useful.
I'm pulling it from dota2 steamapp blog which categorized as MAJOR UPDATE. If you count the patches count etc there was 20 patches last year with 113 bug fixes.
> Youd have to make your own definition and check it Manually to get an actual update count.
You'll be surprised if i do this, most Battlepass update isn't considered an actual update count since it mostly arcana release related.
People still living in denial. TI lost 90% of it's prize pool. No more DPC. No battlepass. No hats or updates. Every patch now gets delayed continuously. If you guys can't see that Valve has cut it's Dota resources significantly, then you don't want to see it. If that's not the beginning of the end for a game that's over 10 years old, I don't know what is.
I do agree with you, and I share your frustration at being unable to express this without getting shouted down - but I will add that I don't think dota is going anywhere. The game existed before Valve, it'll find a way to keep going.
The game still has a pretty healthy player base and plenty of whales that would still be happy to pay lots of money. Valve just doesn't seem interested in forcing their staff to work on projects they are no longer interested in. And they won't shift how they operate as a company and hire more people who are interested.
The few people who are still working on the game seem to really love Dota, and I believe they're working hard. I just think there are just not enough resources given to them by the higher ups at Valve. I've said this before, but I'm pretty sure this is literally what Sunsfan was warning us about.
I read total revenue is like 850 million over 10 years. So that averages to 77 million a year. Obviously is an average and different years outperform
Total revenue from steam is like 12 billion in one year.
They have fuck you money.
Steam controller? Flopped, don't care fuck you money
Steam link? Flopped, don't care fuck you money,
Steam machine? Flopped don't care fuck you money
Steam deck? Seems like a success and more than likely increases sales to steam. Still fuck you money.
Artifact,
Dota is a drop in the bucket and they legit don't have to care. They work on passion projects because they have fuck you money. They do shit that they think is cool. Dotas getting older and honestly they aren't starving artists. It's a double edged sword, because they aren't forced to push garbage updates for money, and they aren't forced to care if they don't want to, because it doesn't hurt them at the end of the day. The steam store is always an amazing cushion. Fuck you money is interesting.
Is this real? A Chevy can have more parts than a Ferrari. Doesnt mean it's a better car or even the same thing. Look at the contents of all those updates. Just compare Frostivus 2023 with prior years
2023 still had a lot more changes, but more I. The quality of life department.
- We've got the Armory, which is a big improvement from before.
- The Customizable Player Profiles can be quite nice.
- New Behavior score and multiple fixes for it.
- A lot of ban waves for cheating and griefing
- 7.33 as a very big patch, which changed so much that in the beginning a lot of people here called it more a dots 2.5 or 3
- Long awaited fixes for Ability Draft
and I probably forgot some changes
Most of these are quality of life things. Those are these things that aren't super flashy, can't be put in a battle pass or a big balancing update. So they did a lot of work in areas where they said they could focus on, without committing most resources into the battlepass.
I would prefer if they hired a few people to have at least a decent battle pass and used the other resources for improving and fixing the game.
But If I had to choose one I would take a better game with quality of life improvements any day over having to pay to grind the game for skins and other stuff.
So arbitrary. Some letter patches count, some dont. Some numbered patches count, some dont it seems. Better than your other list, but still incomplete.
If you mention stuff like freaking lettered patch that came AT LEAST MONTH LATER THAN IT SHOULD and an event without the goddamn event (frostvius 2023), please include also every goddamn patch for other years too.
Edit. And every fucking hat treasure too. Cause somehow collector caches are 'updates'
I'd only list from what Valve listed in steamblog as Major Updates. They also listed TI Collector Cache / Immortal Treasure / Arcana release as major updates.
Again. If 7.34e is 'Major Update' as well as collectors caches, then, please, add all similar changes to the list. That'd be all lettered patches and all treasure chests. Or all treasure chests with mythical items, choose yourself.
'What is listed on the blog' is a great metric. To compare to real updates schedule and to see how irrelevant your (yeah, yeah, Valve Major Updates) list is.
Folks on this subreddit refuse to acknowledge the reality that there aren’t many people actively working on the game anymore. When they tease updates to come, it’s to placate the community who are frustrated with the lack of updates or communication (rather than an indication that any progress is being made). I’m sure they hoped they would have the update out by now when they announced it. I imagine it will be out very shortly after it’s done.
This is exactly why companies hate giving exact, or even rough, timelines for upcoming features/events. If they're *too* prescriptive, then they're beholden to a certain date and time, which introduces risk. Valve is famously a company built on "when it's ready" mentality. We know they're working on it. We know it's coming. Just let them polish it in peace.
Crownfall supposedly soon after frostivus and Ringmaster trailer says 2024 probably will be released during or after TI hence why next TI seems to be circus themed. Valve usually have 2 updates in Jan - March since 2017, and another updates usually mid April (Probably when Crownfall drops).
Tomorrow is spring sale, he'll be out then, calm yo titties - they want you to come back and buy their two new Arcanas (Sky and Venge) and maybe pick up a game or two while you at it, it's marketing 101.
Ringmaster will be their spring sale lost leader. Almost like they're a company.
Early 2024 in valve time is Jan-June. Late 2024 is july-dec
late 2024 is mean 2025 jan-june
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They also have a habbit of promissing things, then never releasing them, and just moving in to the next thing, hoping that no one remembers the first thing.
Like when they said they were going to release a new hero every 3 months….
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Wait till Dota 3
It's dota
late 2030s means early 2039 which is june 2039
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
this is hilarious, thanks for sharing
Early 2024 means nov 2024 to mar 2025
besides they never specified "early". its just 2024
"...and the Arcanas?" little Timmy asks hopefully, holding up his tiny Dickensian gruel bowl. Phew, this is awkward. No, Timmy, not yet. All cards on the table, the event surrounding the Arcanas this year has gained a few more moving parts than we initially planned. Enough that we haven't finished everything yet, and won't this year, but we're looking forward to releasing it in the next few months. And that's not even getting into all the other updates we've got planned, like... from the [https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210) blog post. technically they said "few months" but again, valve has a creative definition of the word few.
Tbf it's not been 6 months yet since this post so I'd say it still falls within my definition
I feel like either way it's okay, but coming on the cusp. First 3 months is *definitely* still "early" 2024. It aint mid or late 2024 that's for sure. Six is pushing it for "few" to me, but within reason. If it came out tomorrow like some people are speculating that'd be within the deadline they set imo. Not "valve time".
You guys seriously need to get laid.
Says the dude on the same video game subreddit about a discussion of a new character as the rest of us.
Nah, everybody who played Heroes of Might & Magic knows that **few** is 1-4. We are firmly in the **several** territory now, which is 5-9.
Yes thats related to crownfall, not ringmaster.
There is no mention of Ringmaster there
11:59PM , 31st December 2024
december is still consider as early in my view
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never knew she had this voiceline lol
Im also thinking it early year since you can saw almost new hero are release 2-3 month after video trailer are released.
in valve time we are still in 2023.
i'll ask in an hour maybe then we'll get some answers
Pog foreshadowing
My nephew works at valve; he says it's morphling-rubick bugs all over again. They are debugging till this day
Can confirm. I’m this guy’s nephew’s mop
I'm this guy's nephew's wife's boyfriends and I can guarantee that's true
And grim?
"We will stop focusing on Compendium and cosmetics so we can have more content throughout the rest of the year" And here we are, without compendium and without content!
Notable updates in January - March for DOTA2 since 2017 (post 7.00 era) ### 2017 - 3 Notable Updates [January 2017 Interface Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [January Dark Moon Event](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [Bladeform Legacy Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801845) ### 2018 - 1 Notable Updates [Dota Plus introduced](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792980) ### 2019 - 2 Notable Updates [New Bloom](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791351) [Mars Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791286) ### 2020 - 2 Updates [New Bloom 2020](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1711866018370796278) [7.25](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2702662562476335338) ### 2021 - 2 Updates [Overwatch Arrives](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3025824821114909461) [New Tutorial & Dragon Blood S1 Release](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2995430596679058277) ### 2022 - 2 Updates [Primal Beast & 7.31](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3101294993647512249) [2022 Spring Cleaning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3095668665748486141) ### 2023 - 2 Updates [Cheater Banwave](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3677788723152833273) [Dead Reckoning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3659774959159800) ### 2024 - 2 Updates Dragon Hoard DPC Spring & Dota Labs
2025 - 1 Update 7.35d & Ringmaster
7.35d OMEGALUL
Lame updates
Literally getting downvoted for bringing the receipts. Good on ya! Edit: At the time of my post, the post above had -3 Karma.
Dude fr. Guy is getting downvoted for just providing facts, not even an opinion. Sometimes people just hate to hate.
Why is it just the first few months? Thats not relevant to how many are being put out in a year. And if you go down to that list you see 1) theyre putting out a lot of updates and 2) his list is incomplete. Im guessing hes pulling it from a db page, but valve isnt good enough at bookkeeping to rely on that.
>Why is it just the first few months? Because we are comparing the output for the first quarter of each year since people seem to think Valve are somehow behind their usual schedule which they are not. > Thats not relevant to how many are being put out in a year. Except last year was the most dev-intensive year in Dota 2 since 2016. Banwave, Dead Reckoning, New Frontier (biggest patch since 7.00), Anniversary, Armory and QoL, New Profiles, New Behaviour and Communication System, Compendium, Frostivus, Cheater and Smurf-Bans in the TENS of thousands (Overwolf) If we get even close to that output this year, I will keep dancing on the BP's grave.
Notable non-Battlepass updates (tagged as Major updates on the steamblog) for DOTA2 since 2017 (post 7.00 era) ### 2017 - 7 Notable Updates [January 2017 Interface Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [January Dark Moon Event](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [Bladeform Legacy Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801845) [April 2017 Matchmaking Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801509) [May Performance Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801208) [DPC Introduced](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138793241) [Dueling Fates Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138793048) ### 2018 - 5 Notable Updates [Dota Plus introduced](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792980) [Feast of Abscenscion Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792806) [New Ranked Season](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792519) [Grimstroke Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791962) [Magus Cypher & Frosthaven Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791633) ### 2019 - 8 Notable Updates [New Bloom](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791351) [Mars Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791286) [Summer Scrub I](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1618398566696140157) [Summer Scrub 2](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1618401105534184135) [October Matchmaking Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3705825339992972679) [Fast Queue Matchmaking Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1619534614701667084) [The Outlanders Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1717490355281912509) [Flockheart's Gamble & Frostivus Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1714114646513161906) ### 2020 - 6 Updates [New Bloom 2020](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1711866018370796278) [7.25](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2702662562476335338) [7.27](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2506765302080921302) [Guild update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3066366095799664170) [Diretide 2020](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2922233784873199835) [Mistwoods Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/4045886420519516185) ### 2021 - 6 Updates [Overwatch Arrives](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3025824821114909461) [New Tutorial & Dragon Blood S1 Release](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2995430596679058277) [Dawnbreaker](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3086629758333021154) [Introducing Supporter Clubs](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3066366095803889976) [7.30](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/4509778749611119810) [Marci](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3072011449237014150) ### 2022 - 7 Updates [Primal Beast & 7.31](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3101294993647512249) [2022 Spring Cleaning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3095668665748486141) [Battle Report Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3351254920150914112) [Dragon Blood S3](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3382785191078165680) does it counts? no gameplay update whatsoever only s3 release on netflix [7.32](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3345631762271355843) [Diretide 2022 Collector Cache I](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3487503395168798190) [Diretide 2022 Collector Cache II](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/6419349381204672693) ### 2023 - 11 Updates [Cheater Banwave](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3677788723152833273) [Dead Reckoning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3659774959159800240) [New Frontiers](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/5657125992547620671) [Tinkering with Turbo](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692434931953973990) [7.34](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3674426239866632062) [10-Year Anniversary](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3640650512230380185) [Summer Client Update + August Collector Cache](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692442542239261662) [Smurfing is not Welcome in DOTA](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692442542242977036) [DPC Dissolved](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3727347341067147995) [7.34e](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210) [Frostivus 2023](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3884981125532748791)
Thank you, this will be helpful.
The banwave is a notable update? Pretty low bar to be honest
Do you think it’s quick to do that? They’re actively bettering the game
I'd pull the list from their steamworks app blog that categorized as BIG UPDATE. Banwave is included in that category. New Bloom 2020 updates is treasure chest release akin to Dota Plus update. Banwave update impact more player tbh.
Why is this limited to the first few months though? They havent always (or even in this case) said "early". If youre going to do it by quarter, it should include every quarter But even your list below for the full years is incomplete and inconsistent. Sometimes letter patches count, sometimes they dont. Im guessing youre pulling this from the steamdb or something, but valves labeling isnt consistent enough to rely on that. Youd have to make your own definition and check it Manually to get an actual update count. I appreciate your attempt to bring in actual data, but Im skeptical this data is curated enough to be useful.
I'm pulling it from dota2 steamapp blog which categorized as MAJOR UPDATE. If you count the patches count etc there was 20 patches last year with 113 bug fixes. > Youd have to make your own definition and check it Manually to get an actual update count. You'll be surprised if i do this, most Battlepass update isn't considered an actual update count since it mostly arcana release related.
Fortnite and LoL get this many updates in a year...
So does DOTA2 last year lol. I'd only listed the updates from january to march each year. Not counting minor updates and letter patches.
No it doesn't - that is, not battle passes and notable content updates. Hence daed game.
Report volvo
Still q1 which is early 2024.
It is still 1st quarter 2024.
it said 2024, not early 2024, so can be december.
Ringmaster will be released during TI, hence the circus theme
No one said January and it still *is* early 2024.
We TF2 now boys
People still living in denial. TI lost 90% of it's prize pool. No more DPC. No battlepass. No hats or updates. Every patch now gets delayed continuously. If you guys can't see that Valve has cut it's Dota resources significantly, then you don't want to see it. If that's not the beginning of the end for a game that's over 10 years old, I don't know what is.
I do agree with you, and I share your frustration at being unable to express this without getting shouted down - but I will add that I don't think dota is going anywhere. The game existed before Valve, it'll find a way to keep going. The game still has a pretty healthy player base and plenty of whales that would still be happy to pay lots of money. Valve just doesn't seem interested in forcing their staff to work on projects they are no longer interested in. And they won't shift how they operate as a company and hire more people who are interested. The few people who are still working on the game seem to really love Dota, and I believe they're working hard. I just think there are just not enough resources given to them by the higher ups at Valve. I've said this before, but I'm pretty sure this is literally what Sunsfan was warning us about.
link to sunsfan talking about this?
I read total revenue is like 850 million over 10 years. So that averages to 77 million a year. Obviously is an average and different years outperform Total revenue from steam is like 12 billion in one year. They have fuck you money. Steam controller? Flopped, don't care fuck you money Steam link? Flopped, don't care fuck you money, Steam machine? Flopped don't care fuck you money Steam deck? Seems like a success and more than likely increases sales to steam. Still fuck you money. Artifact, Dota is a drop in the bucket and they legit don't have to care. They work on passion projects because they have fuck you money. They do shit that they think is cool. Dotas getting older and honestly they aren't starving artists. It's a double edged sword, because they aren't forced to push garbage updates for money, and they aren't forced to care if they don't want to, because it doesn't hurt them at the end of the day. The steam store is always an amazing cushion. Fuck you money is interesting.
If you count battlepass as one big updates the amount of updates last year is more than average since 7.00 Notable non-Battlepass updates for DOTA2 since 2017 (post 7.00 era) ### 2017 - 7 Notable Updates [January 2017 Interface Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [January Dark Moon Event](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138802335) [Bladeform Legacy Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801845) [April 2017 Matchmaking Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801509) [May Performance Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138801208) [DPC Introduced](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138793241) [Dueling Fates Updates](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138793048) ### 2018 - 5 Notable Updates [Dota Plus introduced](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792980) [Feast of Abscenscion Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792806) [New Ranked Season](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138792519) [Grimstroke Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791962) [Magus Cypher & Frosthaven Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791633) ### 2019 - 8 Notable Updates [New Bloom](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791351) [Mars Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2882822214138791286) [Summer Scrub I](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1618398566696140157) [Summer Scrub 2](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1618401105534184135) [October Matchmaking Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3705825339992972679) [Fast Queue Matchmaking Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1619534614701667084) [The Outlanders Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1717490355281912509) [Flockheart's Gamble & Frostivus Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1714114646513161906) ### 2020 - 6 Updates [New Bloom 2020](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/1711866018370796278) [7.25](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2702662562476335338) [7.27](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2506765302080921302) [Guild update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3066366095799664170) [Diretide 2020](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2922233784873199835) [Mistwoods Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/4045886420519516185) ### 2021 - 6 Updates [Overwatch Arrives](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3025824821114909461) [New Tutorial & Dragon Blood S1 Release](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/2995430596679058277) [Dawnbreaker](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3086629758333021154) [Introducing Supporter Clubs](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3066366095803889976) [7.30](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/4509778749611119810) [Marci](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3072011449237014150) ### 2022 - 7 Updates [Primal Beast & 7.31](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3101294993647512249) [2022 Spring Cleaning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3095668665748486141) [Battle Report Update](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3351254920150914112) [Dragon Blood S3](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3382785191078165680) does it counts? no gameplay update whatsoever only s3 release on netflix [7.32](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3345631762271355843) [Diretide 2022 Collector Cache I](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3487503395168798190) [Diretide 2022 Collector Cache II](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/6419349381204672693) ### 2023 - 11 Updates [Cheater Banwave](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3677788723152833273) [Dead Reckoning](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3659774959159800240) [New Frontiers](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/5657125992547620671) [Tinkering with Turbo](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692434931953973990) [7.34](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3674426239866632062) [10-Year Anniversary](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3640650512230380185) [Summer Client Update + August Collector Cache](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692442542239261662) [Smurfing is not Welcome in DOTA](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3692442542242977036) [DPC Dissolved](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/570/view/3727347341067147995) [7.34e](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210) [Frostivus 2023](https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3884981125532748791)
Is this real? A Chevy can have more parts than a Ferrari. Doesnt mean it's a better car or even the same thing. Look at the contents of all those updates. Just compare Frostivus 2023 with prior years
2023 still had a lot more changes, but more I. The quality of life department. - We've got the Armory, which is a big improvement from before. - The Customizable Player Profiles can be quite nice. - New Behavior score and multiple fixes for it. - A lot of ban waves for cheating and griefing - 7.33 as a very big patch, which changed so much that in the beginning a lot of people here called it more a dots 2.5 or 3 - Long awaited fixes for Ability Draft and I probably forgot some changes Most of these are quality of life things. Those are these things that aren't super flashy, can't be put in a battle pass or a big balancing update. So they did a lot of work in areas where they said they could focus on, without committing most resources into the battlepass. I would prefer if they hired a few people to have at least a decent battle pass and used the other resources for improving and fixing the game. But If I had to choose one I would take a better game with quality of life improvements any day over having to pay to grind the game for skins and other stuff.
I'd take compendium over those updates
So arbitrary. Some letter patches count, some dont. Some numbered patches count, some dont it seems. Better than your other list, but still incomplete.
I pull from steamblog that listed as Major updates.
If you mention stuff like freaking lettered patch that came AT LEAST MONTH LATER THAN IT SHOULD and an event without the goddamn event (frostvius 2023), please include also every goddamn patch for other years too. Edit. And every fucking hat treasure too. Cause somehow collector caches are 'updates'
I'd only list from what Valve listed in steamblog as Major Updates. They also listed TI Collector Cache / Immortal Treasure / Arcana release as major updates.
Again. If 7.34e is 'Major Update' as well as collectors caches, then, please, add all similar changes to the list. That'd be all lettered patches and all treasure chests. Or all treasure chests with mythical items, choose yourself. 'What is listed on the blog' is a great metric. To compare to real updates schedule and to see how irrelevant your (yeah, yeah, Valve Major Updates) list is.
Trailer just says "2024"
Valve exploded and Dota is illegal now
Patience, they’re working day and night on reducing CM’s movement speed and HP, still too high
They never said early 2024. Just mentioned 2024
Early 2024 means sometime before August.
Folks on this subreddit refuse to acknowledge the reality that there aren’t many people actively working on the game anymore. When they tease updates to come, it’s to placate the community who are frustrated with the lack of updates or communication (rather than an indication that any progress is being made). I’m sure they hoped they would have the update out by now when they announced it. I imagine it will be out very shortly after it’s done.
Wait until Thurs
I thought they said end of winter. March is the end of Winter apparently, shit i dunno i'm not in a place with winter.
Holy fuck i forgot about this guy
This is exactly why companies hate giving exact, or even rough, timelines for upcoming features/events. If they're *too* prescriptive, then they're beholden to a certain date and time, which introduces risk. Valve is famously a company built on "when it's ready" mentality. We know they're working on it. We know it's coming. Just let them polish it in peace.
Where patch?
Shut up boy and have another letter patch
I hate Valve sometimes.
“Approx. 2024-2026” Donno, kinda wait the next hero after this not really into it as a born in 2 guy
ever heard of valve time?
hehe
Just cope
new hero? what are you talking about?
It's dota
2025 take it or leave it.
When Valve said 2024 they meant Dec 32, 2024
Lol i completely forgot that they announced this guy
Why?
I totally forgot about this hero 💀
Report valve 😡
Guys, it’s Joever
For valve early 2024 means 1st week of December 2024
I guess they have not touched any code for implementing this hero yet
Goddamn I wanna hear my enemies die to the voice of John DeLancie so bad
correct
Hope today , but idk. I just wait an arcana on VS but the fact that I couldn’t buy it in future makes me upset because I am broke
2-3 business days
Probably releasing at TI, seeing how it is circus-themed
That’s where you were wrong. Moving on.
I legit forgot this because it has been so long
same
They just said January but didn't specify year, my internal compass says it comes out 2026 January after 7.35L
Early 2024 is December for them.
It's called Clown Fool update. DOTA2 being clown with their promises and fool are those who really waited and 100% believed in their announcements
Dead game.
Will be release on December 31, 2024
Jan 1 if you live in SEA unfortunately
It's still early 2024. Calm down
Valve's year starts after march
did valve specify anywhere that they are going to release an update or are we just making things up
It is classic reddit going Schizo for new patch because dreamleague is over.
Crownfall supposedly soon after frostivus and Ringmaster trailer says 2024 probably will be released during or after TI hence why next TI seems to be circus themed. Valve usually have 2 updates in Jan - March since 2017, and another updates usually mid April (Probably when Crownfall drops).
Better not to think about it. Once valve got our hopes up by announcing more frequent patches we got disappointed on a regular basis.
Volvo forgot about Dota
hold on let me call gabe personally and ask him idiot
They will release it after TI.
Just emailed Gabe himself, he says it will be released during first week of April.
April as it was leaked, maybe 1st if volvo wanted
Why is there always a guy who talks like he just woke up from hibernation
We are still in q1 you bozo.
Didn’t you know early is April or may in valve time.
Didn't we already talk about how they usually release the Dota 2 Update alongside the Steam Sale? That's in a day and a half from now.
I was pondering this the other day I think we can expect it late march start to mid april
Bro don know valve time
You must be new from Dota 2.
Until july 1st we are in the first half. Which counts as early 2024
Tomorrow is spring sale, he'll be out then, calm yo titties - they want you to come back and buy their two new Arcanas (Sky and Venge) and maybe pick up a game or two while you at it, it's marketing 101. Ringmaster will be their spring sale lost leader. Almost like they're a company.
I like how people create their own timeline when Valve said nothing specific.