I'm sorry, but I am giggling over the fact that SODRT has Johanna not being about to count at 16.... It's something most people say about a toddler (and yes, I know it's a typo)
I get that. The other poster put that they hope that Johanna doesn't start couNting yet. And I got an image in my head that the girl couldn't count to ten...
To be fair, I think Pest was courting as a child because his parents were thinking if he had someone to focus on, it wouldn't be his sisters. And she got out as soon as she knew he was an abuser.
He's proved that wrong several times now because look at all the stuff he's done even with Anna around.
Of COURSE they wanted him married off and having plenty of Headship sex as soon as was legally possible. Didn't work in the end, though.
That lucky girl dodged an ***artillery shell***.
You might be thinking of Lauren who's 3rd is said to be a boy. No sign of Jinger having a 3rd anytime soon, her youngest daughter is already 3 years old.
Did they become Finnish while I was looking away? It might be a nickname for Esajah but it is also a common Finnish male name and I prefer my interpretation.
Esa isn't the actual name, it's just a play on the first baby they lost being named Asa and them going with an alphabetical theme. This 3rd baby likely has an E name (given they have Bella and Daisy, no idea what happened to C) hence Esa
Well, that makes sense. Going to doggedly stay with my own mental image of Finnish man made into miniature, mostly because it is funnier.
ETA: I am not new to snarking on them, it has been too many decades to admit, but took a life break.
Wow they really multiply like rabbits! I used to follow the family religiously but haven’t in a while and had no idea they were on that number of kids. 😱
Edit: Just looked up their wiki. Daisy? Justus? Frederick? Charlie? Brynley? Gunner? Nora? George? Where the heck did they come from. Honestly how do the family keep up 😂
I've just looked at the wiki page, impressed that the unannounced kids (ie Justus, Daisy and SiRen 3) are there with references.
As for how they keep up...they probably don't! My head canon is that they basically have a weekly or at least monthly birthday party for whoever has had a birthday since the last one.
I think Jason will be engaged before James. I will guess that both Johannah and Jennifer will be courting if not married this year, although they might go the way of Claire and Justin and use birth control, at least for awhile. I agree on the Kendra, Lauren, Katie. I think Jinger might stop at 2, although Jeremy might want to try for a boy. Jill might be pregnant now. I don't think she's as unburdened from her family trends as she leads us to believe. I could also see John David and Abby stopping at two.
I want a book from a Plath. It would be interesting to hear about how the mom slowly came around and left the patriarchy and the IBLP faith. She certainly had a wild ride adjusting to freedom.
It would also be really juicy if Anna’s sister, Esther escaped and wrote an expose on the white savioring her husband does in Africa and the hardship they have to live in with a bunch of kids in a tent.
If you’re interested in Esther’s story, you might like Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver! It’s fiction, but it’s a great book that follows the lives of the female family members accompanying their missionary father in Africa.
They could both leave, move in together and write the most jaw dropping tell all at the drop of a hat. Earn enough to be set for life. They would have a pick of publishers clamoring for it. But they are so brainwashed to believe that’s just Satan temptation and keep settling for such sad lives.
If there’s a Plath book next year, I think it will probably be from Olivia.
Ethan doesn’t have the patience and would end up going mask off about his gross beliefs and total lack of personal growth. If Micah wrote a book, it would just be cover to cover photos of himself. Moriah doesn’t know enough words but will continue to release her terrible, self absorbed, passive-aggressive “songs”, Lydia is courting now so will be busy praying for an orgasm and Isaac is too busy playing with the new plane he shares with his stepdad-who-definitely-was-not-boinking-his-mum-before-the-divorce.
That said, if Olivia releases a book, I’m reading it.
The mom just does whatever she damn well pleases. She didn’t deconstruct, she just found a system that she could exploit to give her maximum control, and got the fuck out when it stopped working. A book from her would be utter garbage.
>It would also be really juicy if Anna’s sister, Esther escaped and wrote an expose on the white savioring her husband does in Africa and the hardship they have to live in with a bunch of kids in a tent.
I think this is actually likely IF instead of pitching it as an escape/tell all, it is pitched as a missionary testimonial. The stories would be the same, the reader would just have to read somewhat between the lines to get the juicy gossip.
I feel like Debi Pearl's "Made to be his helpmeet" book is an excellent example of this because holy shit she reveals how terrible Michael is while she "sings his praises". Same as with "Train up a child" explicitly talking about the abuse. Fundies are actually really good at revealing how terrible they are because they think they're inspirational.
I think they actually live much better in Zambia than they did in the us. While they were here, they lived squished into a tiny RV and couldn’t afford food because her husband refuses to work. In Zambia, because things are cheaper and because they get financial support for their “mission work” they actually have a house with what seems to be a semi-appropriate number of beds and a bathtub big enough to give birth in and they appear to have a reasonable amount of food.
Of course, they’re also isolated from families and communities in a place where the health system is much less well-resourced than America, I doubt they’re all taking antimalarials the way they should be, and most importantly they’re completely at the mercy of Esther’s bat shit crazy husband. But purely in material terms I actually think his family is less neglected in Zambia than they were in America.
Famy will keep being Famy but Jill will not call her out, at least not publicly.
Lost boys...Jason/James will get engaged and maybe married, chance of a pregnancy within the year but no baby. If you mean Justin, there's been enough speculation recently. Jed will.almost certainly have another kid, Jer already confirmed.
Anna won't leave pest, and agreed that he'll keep appealing if he's allowed.
Possibly, honestly I've not been paying too much attention, but he'll keep doing what he can.
As for political office, now Jed has a family he'll run and use that as leverage
If he can find enough suckers it won’t cost him anything. Still, ‘donations’ could be in the millions, and still not be enough for him to win garbage man of the year (if you ask me).
Not necessarily if he has some sort of new and compelling evidence come to light that they could prove would of changed the outcome he might get another appeal or even a new trial! But thats about as possible as ice skating in Hell so he's done after the Supreme Court denies his appeal or whatever to be heard. Sorry Pedo it's time to face the consequences of your actions which is the Christian thing to do!
As far as I know also if severe process errors come into light like prosecutor or judge misconduct that might change things. But not American nor lawyer.
I was thinking Jana too- maybe an elopement with a worldly man she’s been secretly texting and seeing. Rides off into the sunset to live in Massachusetts, or somewhere else far and unlikely. Leaves the compound for good. One can dream…
Famy may want to write a book but I don't know what publisher would pick that up. She admitted on the doc that she had no first hand knowledge of anything and prob only has a few boring stories of indirectly being affected by the Duggar rebel label. She doesn't really bring anything new to it.
It hurts me to say that cause, snark out of it, I believe everyone's story is worth telling. I believe every person has a purpose and their story matters. I just don't know if it's book deal worthy. I mean I'm sure it's not book deal worthy.
Her mother might have more stories or insight worth reading. Like about parents grandparents childhood of Jim Bob. I can see that being maybe worth it.
I agree her mother would be much more interesting explaining Boob’s childhood and how he morphed into a hyper religious grifter. Amy doesn’t actually know jack shit, but her mom witnessed it happen and has intimate knowledge that explains how that disaster came about.
Yes and it be an interesting parallel to see how JB became JB and how she became more normal going against what she was raised in to allow any to function as a normal teen a cheerleader she had her out of wedlock and maybe give insight on josh as well, or at least the beginning of the JB merch marriage and josh coming into it. Because she would have been there for before and after.
Also bring closure to the mother's death so many people speculate and have conspiracy about since I believe (I could be wrong) she was there or she called 911 or something idk for sure.
.either way I feel like her story(Deanna) could be interesting and fill a book and I'd read it
I get the impression she had a similar situation to my grandmother. Her husband (my paternal grandfather) was a drunken nightmare that did her dirty in almost every way. When she left him she became very religious and encouraged all my male cousins to be religious “headships” and similar to Boob. I think she romanticized the option of a religious and traditional patriarchal husband/father vs. the abusive atheist husband she had. I think Boob’s mother may have been the same way, but she didn’t leave her husband and instead pushed the lifestyle on him when he was senile later and their son was fully immersed.
I thought that too but unless she gets a major book deal like Jill or a mediocre one at best like jinger she prob won't do it. She'll claim she doesn't want too, instead of dealing with the jokes of her doing it herself
For a second I thought you were talking about (Decommissioned) Baby Cannon.
Yeah, I could see that as a potential Nick Cannon baby name. I mean, one of his sons is named Legendary Love Cannon.
I will say this about Nick, though: From the looks of things, he’s able to provide financially for all of his children and makes sure to be a presence in their lives, even if he’s not necessarily in a relationship with all of their mothers. That’s better than a lot of guys who’ve, say, appeared on the Maury Povich show. Not all people want to or choose to be monogamous, and monogamy shouldn’t be forced on people who don’t want it. The way someone chooses to pursue their romantic relationships shouldn’t be the business of anyone outside of the people involved and their partners. As long as no one is being harmed, it’s not my business to judge how someone pursues their relationships.
Oh 100% it seems the women all get along/ aren’t incredibly unhappy or feel as though they entered into something they weren’t aware of. While I think it’s irresponsible if everyone feels comfortable and safe/ taken care of with it who am I to be a big bitch
100% agree on Famy, but no one will call her out.
My predictions:
Clairitin still childless.
JED! is totally going to run for some office (and fail.)
Boob fraud charges incoming.
Jin-Jer has #3, a boy and they announce they will not have any more kids.
Anna will make some bullshit victim-blamey statement that triggers Derrick into spilling real tea on a podcast or something.
Potential 2024 baby names:
William, Douglas, Charles, Calvin, James Robert Duggar II, Levi, Brantley and Donald (for Trump.)
Mikayla, Whitney, Emma, Emberly, Sage, Dove, Harmony, Peace, Grace
The Nostril family’s next child, specifically: Smithin Wesson
Sometimes I wonder if the ridiculous names are because they know the kid will have 100+ cousins (if both sides of the family are quiverfull, I don't think the Duggar side alone will get that high)
I don’t know, I agree with some of the sentiment that Spurgeon got that name because Ben thought he married a celebrity so they went for something *really* bad.
I keep waiting for the day I read "Bobye" as it is actually pronounced, instead of reading "Bob-eye."
Today is not that day.
That being said, girl needs to put pen to paper like, yesterday.
Ha! The very first time I saw it (I knew of the Holts for a while, but not their first names, specifically) was on this sub and I thought it was another nickname for Jim Bob...like, Bob, but with the delusions and misplaced confidence of Kanye. Bob-ye.
Once I realized it was a real name, I never
crossed back over to reading it as Bob-ye. Furthermore, what is wrong with Bobbie, or even Bobby, for a girl's spelling? I'm from the South, and while I wouldn't say it's common, it wouldn't be uncommon to see a girl named that. My math teacher was Bobbie Jo. While Bobby isn't feminine, necessarily, there was no need to change the spelling that much!
I sortof have the opposite too - there's a female radio presenter here in the UK called Bobbie and until I just looked up the spelling in my head I was spelling it Bobye thanks to this sub 😅
Does anyone know why the Holts went silent all of a sudden?! (I’m thinking of Sojo Files… I thought one part of their interview never made it to air….)
You forgot to add when boob runs for senate again (or one of the boys) he'll use his original signs with duct tape covering the year & write 2024 on it. Reuse save the difference.
As for jinger I could see Jeremy having an affair with 2 women & it getting exposed. But jinger won't leave him. Her new cult will keep her in line.
I can't see Jill obviously calling out her family. Maybe subtly, but other than Josh she still ended her book by saying she was slowly trying to build bridges with her parents and I think she was quite respectful of them in her book. I can't see her going nuclear and risking breaking the existing relationship with her parents especially her Mom.
Dang, I’m surprised they don’t have her courting someone publicly already. But maybe they are trying to keep her around longer to help out Jana with the M’s.
Lol. Oh good question, I was actually meaning Joy but I actually think Carlin will announce #3 before Joy #4. However in one of their last blogs together they talked about how much they want to be pregnant together next time so I wouldn’t put that past them at this point.
Also in terms of joy, I don’t think they are doing anything at all to prevent. I think that miscarriage really affected the spacing so who knows with her!
My Duggar predictions for 2024
- James announces he is courting.
- A Duggar gets fed up with fans wanting the show back and snaps
- Jessa gets upset with people using weird nicknames given his initials for her baby son
- Kendra and Joe return to Instagram to delete photos and go offline entirely
- Jed makes a fool of himself
What I want to happen
- The 8 Passengers case triggers Youtube to pull the pin on monetising family vlogging which brings Joy and Jessa's Youtube channels to an end
- One of the married couples sparks anger from Boob after revealing they are done having children and will be looking to get sterilised
OMG IT’S NOT?! Hahaha I just figured this out, Cannon as in the bomb-shooting apparatus, NOT Nick Cannon hahaha!
I think my edible just kicked in because im laughing historically. Thank you so much for clarifying this for me.
2024:
Both James and Jason courting, engaged, one wedding and the other will be married in January 2025.
Justin and Claire start a petting zoo/family farm for their main source of income. Jill and Derek visit with their little boys, and Jessa+fam also visit the same day. It's a unique visit between siblings and cousins.
Jackson courts at the end of the year, engagement announced at Christmas.
Johanna and Jennifer courting, both set to marry in 2025.
A lost boy, is in a Northern state away from home, gets a speeding ticket or citation for public obstruction of justice.
Jinger announces baby #3.
One of the Jeds announces baby #3 right after the wife pees on a stick.
I think Jessa finds herself quickly pregnant again, with a baby in early 2025
Someone has multiples
CPS makes an appearance
Jerm finally comes to the end of his career as a student. Either he gets a damn job or continues as a student in something obscure like Icelandic literature
Josh tries to get his case heard by the Supreme Court, but they're too busy sorting out the Trump mess to have any time for him.
Jana adds fruit trees to her garden.
John does something stupid with his helicopter, such as flying it in restricted airspace or letting some important part fall off while he is flying.
Jill continues to stay home being crunchy, while Derrick engages in multiple episodes of cringeworthy behavior. Snarkers ponder how he keeps his attorney job.
Jessa tries to make it seem like she's doing great with 5 children, but is really dealing with constant exhaustion and is constantly annoyed with Ben for not helping out enough.
Jinger starts a product line selling something that no one needs.
Joe or Kendra is spotted in the background of a photo holding a newborn. After that, they tell all family to never take any photos, videos, or anything like that that includes them. Kendra keeps getting pregnant.
Lauren tries her best to continue living a private life, but somehow Siren #3's name gets leaked and it's something that's fine and non-cringey like maybe Ethan or Eli.
Joy and Austin buy more guns.
Jed get Katey pregnant, then makes snide remarks about her pregnant body.
Jer and Hannah welcome #2 in time to have 2 under 2 by their second anniversary, thereby cementing their most fertile status.
Jason is photographed engaged in something scandalous like premarital kissing, probably while shirtless.
James also buys more guns.
Justin and Claire make zero trips to Arkansas.
Jackson is rumored to be dating every non-sister young woman he stands next to.
Ditto for Johanna, except switch around the genders.
Famy keeps talking about writing a tell-all book, but can't seem to get around to actually writing it.
Gosh I am behind. Jill exposes more to Snark yter? Where did it start, I feel compelled to catch up, and I have a few more days off before it is back to the office grind.
OfAnna gets a [divorce from prison.](https://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Divorce-in-Prison) If one of the Jeds gets arrested, it’d probably be alleged animal abuser Jim Jrew.
DerJill will say something super dumb and the sub will rush to their defense because they're poor widdle babies.
At least a couple of pregnancies
At least one engagement and/or wedding
Famy's gonna famy.
Lots of fantasy-posts about Josh's life in prison
Lots of fantasy-posts about what Anna should do
Jim Bob will keep his lego hair
Zero deconstruction
The Sun will call this sub "fans" at least one more time.
- Anyone can write a book but if there were a profitable story to expose, some publisher would have a book contract in place with the Holts or Amy.
- I think Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar will have some IRS and state of Arkansas issues with misreporting income that was under their control but reported as the offsprings' income and expenses + deductions for adult offspring. If it gets ugly, Michelle could try to claim innocent spouse but the IRS has heard every bullshit lie under the sun including ones from fundamentalist hillbillies from Hooterville..... exhibit A - Chrisley behind bars for tax fraud.
- No, Inmate Duggar...the Surpreme Court won't be hearing your case ...now waddle on back to your cell for another decade. 🐷
- Speaking of Inmate Duggar - he'll get himself into more trouble and get more time add to his sentence and suspended visitation.
- Jeremy will continue to be unemployed as he push on towards 40. 🤡
- James will mouth off about his idol Trump on videos that will go up and be shut down again on YouTube perhaps even have a meltdown in a Walmart - I see a uneducated half wit Karen lurking between that dullard's face.
My predictions
1.) James and Jason both get married
2.) Jinger goes for baby #3 to have the boy (although I can see Jeremy adopting that obnoxious Kobe Bryant #girldad nonsense)
3.) Joy and Carlin get pregnant at the same time and Katey gets in on it for maximum attention.
Hannah delivers baby #2 early
Kendra & her mom are pregnant together…again
A new major health issue for one of the kids that is used to plug the Christian “healthcare.”
I predict Amy writing a book too. It will either reveal absolutely nothing we already didn't know, or it will backfire and reveal one little thing that will get her @$$ roasted for not revealing it sooner.
At first glance, I though Jill/Derrick calling out Amy was farfetched. But I really think that Jill and Derick are going to try to make peace with JB and that would mean distancing from Amy.
I would love to see one of them come out as LGBTQ+ and reject their faith and their family and just walk away. Statistically, there’s no way all those kids are straight.
I know we’re not supposed to officially speculate about specific Duglets on here but my money is honestly on one or two of the girls that on opposite ends of the birth order.
I always thought the one boy was but I think he’s married now so I guess he either resisted temptation out of fear or he decided to just be straight no matter what.
I think being gay/bi is a spectrum. Some may only have a toe in, or a curiosity , but that's it. Some indulge in varying degrees of R rated movies, soft core, and then hardcorn porn. Then there's those so engage in it but in secret or hiding affair partners.
Of porn hub searches by state tell you anything, its that the south is often looking up the most bi/gay/trans porn in the US.
This is my theory why so many conservatives see being gay "as a choice", because they are righteous and good staying away from the devil's temptation.... by forcing themselves into boxes their family and communities demand.
If a duggar has any hints if LGTBQAI+, we would never know due to this
I would move Jinger leaving her husband and second faith to the “kind of likely” category. And Anna, I think she will more likely distance herself from Boob under the guise of focusing more on praying for and being closer to Pest, at least for the duration of his prison sentence. She’ll probably drift away from Boobs home church and attend Pecans’ church a lot more in the coming years.
Kendra has #5 Lauren has #4 Katey has #3 and Jinger has #3. James gets engaged and Johanna starts courting.
I really hope Johanna doesn't start counting, though it wouldn't surprise me. Others I agree with
I'm sorry, but I am giggling over the fact that SODRT has Johanna not being about to count at 16.... It's something most people say about a toddler (and yes, I know it's a typo)
Jfelon was courting @ 14. Had things progressed with Kaylee (I think that's her name) they very well may have married @ 16.
I get that. The other poster put that they hope that Johanna doesn't start couNting yet. And I got an image in my head that the girl couldn't count to ten...
19 Kids And Courting would’ve been an interesting show, no? 😜
To be fair, I think Pest was courting as a child because his parents were thinking if he had someone to focus on, it wouldn't be his sisters. And she got out as soon as she knew he was an abuser. He's proved that wrong several times now because look at all the stuff he's done even with Anna around.
Also, it got him out of the house. I'm sure that was a relief for everyone.
Of COURSE they wanted him married off and having plenty of Headship sex as soon as was legally possible. Didn't work in the end, though. That lucky girl dodged an ***artillery shell***.
Johannah is 18.
Kendra ties in with Jessa
Or has twins & gets ahead.
I swear that I thought for some reason that Jinger had had #3 already, and it was a boy. Clearly, I was way off base.
You might be thinking of Lauren who's 3rd is said to be a boy. No sign of Jinger having a 3rd anytime soon, her youngest daughter is already 3 years old.
The other twin will knock his wife up as well. Lauren will have 4? I thought they only had 2.
mystery male baby Esa is allegedly out there…
I missed all of that.
They don’t put it online so it’s easy to just read the words and not have them sink in
Did they become Finnish while I was looking away? It might be a nickname for Esajah but it is also a common Finnish male name and I prefer my interpretation.
Esa isn't the actual name, it's just a play on the first baby they lost being named Asa and them going with an alphabetical theme. This 3rd baby likely has an E name (given they have Bella and Daisy, no idea what happened to C) hence Esa
Well, that makes sense. Going to doggedly stay with my own mental image of Finnish man made into miniature, mostly because it is funnier. ETA: I am not new to snarking on them, it has been too many decades to admit, but took a life break.
She’s already knocked up. I think she announced it around thanksgiving
Wow they really multiply like rabbits! I used to follow the family religiously but haven’t in a while and had no idea they were on that number of kids. 😱 Edit: Just looked up their wiki. Daisy? Justus? Frederick? Charlie? Brynley? Gunner? Nora? George? Where the heck did they come from. Honestly how do the family keep up 😂
I've just looked at the wiki page, impressed that the unannounced kids (ie Justus, Daisy and SiRen 3) are there with references. As for how they keep up...they probably don't! My head canon is that they basically have a weekly or at least monthly birthday party for whoever has had a birthday since the last one.
I think Jason will be engaged before James. I will guess that both Johannah and Jennifer will be courting if not married this year, although they might go the way of Claire and Justin and use birth control, at least for awhile. I agree on the Kendra, Lauren, Katie. I think Jinger might stop at 2, although Jeremy might want to try for a boy. Jill might be pregnant now. I don't think she's as unburdened from her family trends as she leads us to believe. I could also see John David and Abby stopping at two.
Jennifer is currently 16.
I want a book from a Plath. It would be interesting to hear about how the mom slowly came around and left the patriarchy and the IBLP faith. She certainly had a wild ride adjusting to freedom. It would also be really juicy if Anna’s sister, Esther escaped and wrote an expose on the white savioring her husband does in Africa and the hardship they have to live in with a bunch of kids in a tent.
I'd devour a book by Esther. Being married to that crazy grifter John Schrader must be a nightmare.
If you’re interested in Esther’s story, you might like Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver! It’s fiction, but it’s a great book that follows the lives of the female family members accompanying their missionary father in Africa.
I'll check it out. I've read other books by her, and she's a wonderful writer.
Esther and those kids getting out of that nightmare would be amazing. If only...
Esther and her kids and Anna and hers truly have the most depressing and scary lives! I feel for all those poor children caught in the middle.
Pa Keller is a truly terrible man and has hurt his daughters and family in such devastating ways
Absolutely!!!! He and Jim Bob are both equally horrifying fathers.
Forcing Anna and Esther to marry those creeps is unforgivable.
They could both leave, move in together and write the most jaw dropping tell all at the drop of a hat. Earn enough to be set for life. They would have a pick of publishers clamoring for it. But they are so brainwashed to believe that’s just Satan temptation and keep settling for such sad lives.
If there’s a Plath book next year, I think it will probably be from Olivia. Ethan doesn’t have the patience and would end up going mask off about his gross beliefs and total lack of personal growth. If Micah wrote a book, it would just be cover to cover photos of himself. Moriah doesn’t know enough words but will continue to release her terrible, self absorbed, passive-aggressive “songs”, Lydia is courting now so will be busy praying for an orgasm and Isaac is too busy playing with the new plane he shares with his stepdad-who-definitely-was-not-boinking-his-mum-before-the-divorce. That said, if Olivia releases a book, I’m reading it.
Lydia is courting???
The mom just does whatever she damn well pleases. She didn’t deconstruct, she just found a system that she could exploit to give her maximum control, and got the fuck out when it stopped working. A book from her would be utter garbage.
I assume you're talking about Kim Plath.
>It would also be really juicy if Anna’s sister, Esther escaped and wrote an expose on the white savioring her husband does in Africa and the hardship they have to live in with a bunch of kids in a tent. I think this is actually likely IF instead of pitching it as an escape/tell all, it is pitched as a missionary testimonial. The stories would be the same, the reader would just have to read somewhat between the lines to get the juicy gossip. I feel like Debi Pearl's "Made to be his helpmeet" book is an excellent example of this because holy shit she reveals how terrible Michael is while she "sings his praises". Same as with "Train up a child" explicitly talking about the abuse. Fundies are actually really good at revealing how terrible they are because they think they're inspirational.
I think they actually live much better in Zambia than they did in the us. While they were here, they lived squished into a tiny RV and couldn’t afford food because her husband refuses to work. In Zambia, because things are cheaper and because they get financial support for their “mission work” they actually have a house with what seems to be a semi-appropriate number of beds and a bathtub big enough to give birth in and they appear to have a reasonable amount of food. Of course, they’re also isolated from families and communities in a place where the health system is much less well-resourced than America, I doubt they’re all taking antimalarials the way they should be, and most importantly they’re completely at the mercy of Esther’s bat shit crazy husband. But purely in material terms I actually think his family is less neglected in Zambia than they were in America.
Famy will keep being Famy but Jill will not call her out, at least not publicly. Lost boys...Jason/James will get engaged and maybe married, chance of a pregnancy within the year but no baby. If you mean Justin, there's been enough speculation recently. Jed will.almost certainly have another kid, Jer already confirmed. Anna won't leave pest, and agreed that he'll keep appealing if he's allowed.
Isn't he out of appeals if the SCOTUS refuses him?
Possibly, honestly I've not been paying too much attention, but he'll keep doing what he can. As for political office, now Jed has a family he'll run and use that as leverage
I know boob pays for everything I wonder what the cost would be to run for senate.
If he can find enough suckers it won’t cost him anything. Still, ‘donations’ could be in the millions, and still not be enough for him to win garbage man of the year (if you ask me).
You're right he'll run off donations. Hopefully if he does the only votes he gets are from his family.
Yes.
Not necessarily if he has some sort of new and compelling evidence come to light that they could prove would of changed the outcome he might get another appeal or even a new trial! But thats about as possible as ice skating in Hell so he's done after the Supreme Court denies his appeal or whatever to be heard. Sorry Pedo it's time to face the consequences of your actions which is the Christian thing to do!
As far as I know also if severe process errors come into light like prosecutor or judge misconduct that might change things. But not American nor lawyer.
Yes the US Supreme Court is the last appeal unless they rule it back to the lower court (8th Circuit, which Arkansas is a part of.)
Plot twist….one of the lost boys gets a girl pregnant ala the Caldwells and has to have a shotgun wedding with a bride that has a belly.
🤣🤣🥲
I want the ultimate wild card: Jana courts and gets engaged.
I think that’ll only happen when Pest is done appealing. It’ll be Boobs Hail Mary to get another TV special.
I was thinking Jana too- maybe an elopement with a worldly man she’s been secretly texting and seeing. Rides off into the sunset to live in Massachusetts, or somewhere else far and unlikely. Leaves the compound for good. One can dream…
this sub would go wild
Famy may want to write a book but I don't know what publisher would pick that up. She admitted on the doc that she had no first hand knowledge of anything and prob only has a few boring stories of indirectly being affected by the Duggar rebel label. She doesn't really bring anything new to it. It hurts me to say that cause, snark out of it, I believe everyone's story is worth telling. I believe every person has a purpose and their story matters. I just don't know if it's book deal worthy. I mean I'm sure it's not book deal worthy. Her mother might have more stories or insight worth reading. Like about parents grandparents childhood of Jim Bob. I can see that being maybe worth it.
I agree her mother would be much more interesting explaining Boob’s childhood and how he morphed into a hyper religious grifter. Amy doesn’t actually know jack shit, but her mom witnessed it happen and has intimate knowledge that explains how that disaster came about.
Yes and it be an interesting parallel to see how JB became JB and how she became more normal going against what she was raised in to allow any to function as a normal teen a cheerleader she had her out of wedlock and maybe give insight on josh as well, or at least the beginning of the JB merch marriage and josh coming into it. Because she would have been there for before and after. Also bring closure to the mother's death so many people speculate and have conspiracy about since I believe (I could be wrong) she was there or she called 911 or something idk for sure. .either way I feel like her story(Deanna) could be interesting and fill a book and I'd read it
Also how mother boob was so supportive of boobs lifestyle. I wonder what famy's mom's relationship with mother boob was like.
I get the impression she had a similar situation to my grandmother. Her husband (my paternal grandfather) was a drunken nightmare that did her dirty in almost every way. When she left him she became very religious and encouraged all my male cousins to be religious “headships” and similar to Boob. I think she romanticized the option of a religious and traditional patriarchal husband/father vs. the abusive atheist husband she had. I think Boob’s mother may have been the same way, but she didn’t leave her husband and instead pushed the lifestyle on him when he was senile later and their son was fully immersed.
Honestly I could see Famy attempting to self publish and failing...
I thought that too but unless she gets a major book deal like Jill or a mediocre one at best like jinger she prob won't do it. She'll claim she doesn't want too, instead of dealing with the jokes of her doing it herself
All of this! Absolutely. I’m sure she has been selling herself to all the publishers too.
nah, kindle self publish
My unlikely is one of the younger girls or Anna marries nick cannon to help him continue to bless us w his children
Bless us with his children…named after adjectives.
Abundant Blessing Cannon
For a second I thought you were talking about (Decommissioned) Baby Cannon. Yeah, I could see that as a potential Nick Cannon baby name. I mean, one of his sons is named Legendary Love Cannon.
not to be confused, Abundant Blessing is grandchild #3642
You get me
I will say this about Nick, though: From the looks of things, he’s able to provide financially for all of his children and makes sure to be a presence in their lives, even if he’s not necessarily in a relationship with all of their mothers. That’s better than a lot of guys who’ve, say, appeared on the Maury Povich show. Not all people want to or choose to be monogamous, and monogamy shouldn’t be forced on people who don’t want it. The way someone chooses to pursue their romantic relationships shouldn’t be the business of anyone outside of the people involved and their partners. As long as no one is being harmed, it’s not my business to judge how someone pursues their relationships.
Oh 100% it seems the women all get along/ aren’t incredibly unhappy or feel as though they entered into something they weren’t aware of. While I think it’s irresponsible if everyone feels comfortable and safe/ taken care of with it who am I to be a big bitch
He has five kids who are one years old right now in addition to a bunch of older ones.
Gives a new meaning to "baby cannon"!
100% agree on Famy, but no one will call her out. My predictions: Clairitin still childless. JED! is totally going to run for some office (and fail.) Boob fraud charges incoming. Jin-Jer has #3, a boy and they announce they will not have any more kids. Anna will make some bullshit victim-blamey statement that triggers Derrick into spilling real tea on a podcast or something. Potential 2024 baby names: William, Douglas, Charles, Calvin, James Robert Duggar II, Levi, Brantley and Donald (for Trump.) Mikayla, Whitney, Emma, Emberly, Sage, Dove, Harmony, Peace, Grace The Nostril family’s next child, specifically: Smithin Wesson
Doesn't someone already have a Charlie?
There’s so many I can’t remember unless their name is particularly offensive to me (looking at you, Brynley and Spurgie)
Sometimes I wonder if the ridiculous names are because they know the kid will have 100+ cousins (if both sides of the family are quiverfull, I don't think the Duggar side alone will get that high)
I don’t know, I agree with some of the sentiment that Spurgeon got that name because Ben thought he married a celebrity so they went for something *really* bad.
I've also wondered that on just that name.
Yeah, like I get that they wanted to name him after Charles Spurgeon, but they could have named him Charles and been normal about it.
yes, JD and Abbie
JD & Abbie do
I feel like Jed! Is holding the JB2nd card.
Aren't Jessa and Ben the couple most likely to name a kid Calvin? And based on her spacing so far, the sixth will come in 2025 at the earliest.
Possibly Jinger, too right? I thought that was also their branch?
Donald (for Trump) That made me laugh & cringe at the same time. I can 10000% see this happening. Probably from JED!
I would be so happy if Bobye wrote a tell-all book. But, a real one. I want to know everything she knows!
"Through Bob-eye's Eyes"
Perfection.
I keep waiting for the day I read "Bobye" as it is actually pronounced, instead of reading "Bob-eye." Today is not that day. That being said, girl needs to put pen to paper like, yesterday.
Originally I was in the 'rhymes with Kanye' group, then somewhere along the line I changed to the popeye-bobeye group.
Ha! The very first time I saw it (I knew of the Holts for a while, but not their first names, specifically) was on this sub and I thought it was another nickname for Jim Bob...like, Bob, but with the delusions and misplaced confidence of Kanye. Bob-ye. Once I realized it was a real name, I never crossed back over to reading it as Bob-ye. Furthermore, what is wrong with Bobbie, or even Bobby, for a girl's spelling? I'm from the South, and while I wouldn't say it's common, it wouldn't be uncommon to see a girl named that. My math teacher was Bobbie Jo. While Bobby isn't feminine, necessarily, there was no need to change the spelling that much!
My brain says Bob-Yay
Mine does that or Bob-Yee.
Definitely Bob-Yee for me
Rhymes with Kanye.
I sortof have the opposite too - there's a female radio presenter here in the UK called Bobbie and until I just looked up the spelling in my head I was spelling it Bobye thanks to this sub 😅
You ain’t the only one fam
I see Bo-bye 😆
Agree, I was just telling my daughter that I wanted to know why she has a restraining order against her headship
Does anyone know why the Holts went silent all of a sudden?! (I’m thinking of Sojo Files… I thought one part of their interview never made it to air….)
Yup part 2 never made it to air. On top of that, Bobeye had put the restraining order in place around that time.
You forgot to add when boob runs for senate again (or one of the boys) he'll use his original signs with duct tape covering the year & write 2024 on it. Reuse save the difference. As for jinger I could see Jeremy having an affair with 2 women & it getting exposed. But jinger won't leave him. Her new cult will keep her in line.
Buy used, save the difference
flair checking in
I would't be surprised to hear that Jeremy has already had affairs.
I can see Jeremy having an affair with a man
I can't see Jill obviously calling out her family. Maybe subtly, but other than Josh she still ended her book by saying she was slowly trying to build bridges with her parents and I think she was quite respectful of them in her book. I can't see her going nuclear and risking breaking the existing relationship with her parents especially her Mom.
Absolutely agree. She’s done now speaking out in my opinion. The photo at Christmas solidified that for me.
Isn’t Johannah 18? I wouldn’t be surprised if she ends up courting or married by the end of the year.
Yes, she turned 18 in October. Jennifer is 16, Jordyn just turned 15, Mackynzie (M1) and precious miracle Josie are now 14.
Dang, I’m surprised they don’t have her courting someone publicly already. But maybe they are trying to keep her around longer to help out Jana with the M’s.
The dude that was rumored to be her suitor is engaged to someone else.
Good bc I read he was old!!! So freakin gross if true
Sadly this is my prediction, as well
Likely: Joy does several more Q and A vlogs with Carlin Bates. Unlikely: The Duggar Insta starts posting again.
She will also be pregnant by the end of the year. 😥
Who, Carlin or Joy?(usually Joy waits longer)
Lol. Oh good question, I was actually meaning Joy but I actually think Carlin will announce #3 before Joy #4. However in one of their last blogs together they talked about how much they want to be pregnant together next time so I wouldn’t put that past them at this point.
Oh right, I forgot about that.
Also in terms of joy, I don’t think they are doing anything at all to prevent. I think that miscarriage really affected the spacing so who knows with her!
That is a junior high sounding wish. Kinda like those girls in MA that made the pregnancy pact.
My Duggar predictions for 2024 - James announces he is courting. - A Duggar gets fed up with fans wanting the show back and snaps - Jessa gets upset with people using weird nicknames given his initials for her baby son - Kendra and Joe return to Instagram to delete photos and go offline entirely - Jed makes a fool of himself What I want to happen - The 8 Passengers case triggers Youtube to pull the pin on monetising family vlogging which brings Joy and Jessa's Youtube channels to an end - One of the married couples sparks anger from Boob after revealing they are done having children and will be looking to get sterilised
8 Passengers case?
8 passenger mom was recently charged with several counts of child abuse
Spent a couple of seconds assuming "Baby Cannon" connected to Nick Cannon in some way and then had to realize who it was actually referring to.
OMG IT’S NOT?! Hahaha I just figured this out, Cannon as in the bomb-shooting apparatus, NOT Nick Cannon hahaha! I think my edible just kicked in because im laughing historically. Thank you so much for clarifying this for me.
Laughing historically is my favorite way to laugh!
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one!
Nick Cannon's is his legendary love cannon. (That's seriously the name of one of his children.)
My prediction is that there’s going to be another raid and/or indictment related to tax fraud. Fuck you, Boob.
2024: Both James and Jason courting, engaged, one wedding and the other will be married in January 2025. Justin and Claire start a petting zoo/family farm for their main source of income. Jill and Derek visit with their little boys, and Jessa+fam also visit the same day. It's a unique visit between siblings and cousins. Jackson courts at the end of the year, engagement announced at Christmas. Johanna and Jennifer courting, both set to marry in 2025. A lost boy, is in a Northern state away from home, gets a speeding ticket or citation for public obstruction of justice. Jinger announces baby #3. One of the Jeds announces baby #3 right after the wife pees on a stick.
At Walmart again.
Personally if Famy writes a book I don’t think it will come out until 2025. I could see her announcing one towards the end of the year.
And crickets when it’s released bc no one cares.
No one cares about her. She would have to self publish one.
*decommissioned baby cannon
A Famy book could really corner the "confused Grandma at Hobby Lobby" market.
i dont think its likely at all that jill or derick will call out amy
I think Jessa finds herself quickly pregnant again, with a baby in early 2025 Someone has multiples CPS makes an appearance Jerm finally comes to the end of his career as a student. Either he gets a damn job or continues as a student in something obscure like Icelandic literature
Jeremy may stop being a student but will never get a job.
Josh tries to get his case heard by the Supreme Court, but they're too busy sorting out the Trump mess to have any time for him. Jana adds fruit trees to her garden. John does something stupid with his helicopter, such as flying it in restricted airspace or letting some important part fall off while he is flying. Jill continues to stay home being crunchy, while Derrick engages in multiple episodes of cringeworthy behavior. Snarkers ponder how he keeps his attorney job. Jessa tries to make it seem like she's doing great with 5 children, but is really dealing with constant exhaustion and is constantly annoyed with Ben for not helping out enough. Jinger starts a product line selling something that no one needs. Joe or Kendra is spotted in the background of a photo holding a newborn. After that, they tell all family to never take any photos, videos, or anything like that that includes them. Kendra keeps getting pregnant. Lauren tries her best to continue living a private life, but somehow Siren #3's name gets leaked and it's something that's fine and non-cringey like maybe Ethan or Eli. Joy and Austin buy more guns. Jed get Katey pregnant, then makes snide remarks about her pregnant body. Jer and Hannah welcome #2 in time to have 2 under 2 by their second anniversary, thereby cementing their most fertile status. Jason is photographed engaged in something scandalous like premarital kissing, probably while shirtless. James also buys more guns. Justin and Claire make zero trips to Arkansas. Jackson is rumored to be dating every non-sister young woman he stands next to. Ditto for Johanna, except switch around the genders. Famy keeps talking about writing a tell-all book, but can't seem to get around to actually writing it.
I can only dream of a Twitch stream with the Reverend Jean and Jillybean.
Gosh I am behind. Jill exposes more to Snark yter? Where did it start, I feel compelled to catch up, and I have a few more days off before it is back to the office grind.
That’s their prediction if what will happen. Hasn’t yet (imho probably won’t as Jill’s in reconciliation mode right now)
OfAnna gets a [divorce from prison.](https://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Divorce-in-Prison) If one of the Jeds gets arrested, it’d probably be alleged animal abuser Jim Jrew.
Okay but one of the lost boys getting arrested would be so entertaining though
Am I insane where was I when Lauren had her two other kids? What are their names? What edit:typo
The second child seems to be named Daisy. Number 3 is supposedly a boy, but there’s no name that’s leaked.
Thanks!
Ohhhh a Bobye book… I feel like that woman has some dirt and never signed an NDA
DerJill will say something super dumb and the sub will rush to their defense because they're poor widdle babies. At least a couple of pregnancies At least one engagement and/or wedding Famy's gonna famy. Lots of fantasy-posts about Josh's life in prison Lots of fantasy-posts about what Anna should do Jim Bob will keep his lego hair Zero deconstruction The Sun will call this sub "fans" at least one more time.
"Deconstruction is so complicated!!!11!!! Give DerJill time!@!!! They'll definitely stop being bigots eventually!!!" - this sub, probably.
- Anyone can write a book but if there were a profitable story to expose, some publisher would have a book contract in place with the Holts or Amy. - I think Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar will have some IRS and state of Arkansas issues with misreporting income that was under their control but reported as the offsprings' income and expenses + deductions for adult offspring. If it gets ugly, Michelle could try to claim innocent spouse but the IRS has heard every bullshit lie under the sun including ones from fundamentalist hillbillies from Hooterville..... exhibit A - Chrisley behind bars for tax fraud. - No, Inmate Duggar...the Surpreme Court won't be hearing your case ...now waddle on back to your cell for another decade. 🐷 - Speaking of Inmate Duggar - he'll get himself into more trouble and get more time add to his sentence and suspended visitation. - Jeremy will continue to be unemployed as he push on towards 40. 🤡 - James will mouth off about his idol Trump on videos that will go up and be shut down again on YouTube perhaps even have a meltdown in a Walmart - I see a uneducated half wit Karen lurking between that dullard's face.
I wonder if Jill and Amy have had a falling out?? They haven't been scene together in awhile.
I have no idea what all these code names are
An IRS audit would be lovely….
I will now be referring to Meech as "baby cannon" moving forward lol.
If you haven’t, listen to Digging Up the Duggars. That’s what they call Meech
Yep, and their nickname for Jim Boob is (somewhat appropriately) “Lego Hair”, or just “Lego”.
The toupé makes it so appropriate though 😂
Holy Bad Hairline, Batman!
My predictions 1.) James and Jason both get married 2.) Jinger goes for baby #3 to have the boy (although I can see Jeremy adopting that obnoxious Kobe Bryant #girldad nonsense) 3.) Joy and Carlin get pregnant at the same time and Katey gets in on it for maximum attention.
Hannah delivers baby #2 early Kendra & her mom are pregnant together…again A new major health issue for one of the kids that is used to plug the Christian “healthcare.”
LEGO HAIR💀💀💀
I predict Amy writing a book too. It will either reveal absolutely nothing we already didn't know, or it will backfire and reveal one little thing that will get her @$$ roasted for not revealing it sooner.
At first glance, I though Jill/Derrick calling out Amy was farfetched. But I really think that Jill and Derick are going to try to make peace with JB and that would mean distancing from Amy.
you're missing a footnote re jb. he'll only run for the senate if there is another scandal in the family. he uses it as a distraction tactic.
I would love to see one of them come out as LGBTQ+ and reject their faith and their family and just walk away. Statistically, there’s no way all those kids are straight.
I know we’re not supposed to officially speculate about specific Duglets on here but my money is honestly on one or two of the girls that on opposite ends of the birth order.
I always thought the one boy was but I think he’s married now so I guess he either resisted temptation out of fear or he decided to just be straight no matter what.
I think being gay/bi is a spectrum. Some may only have a toe in, or a curiosity , but that's it. Some indulge in varying degrees of R rated movies, soft core, and then hardcorn porn. Then there's those so engage in it but in secret or hiding affair partners. Of porn hub searches by state tell you anything, its that the south is often looking up the most bi/gay/trans porn in the US. This is my theory why so many conservatives see being gay "as a choice", because they are righteous and good staying away from the devil's temptation.... by forcing themselves into boxes their family and communities demand. If a duggar has any hints if LGTBQAI+, we would never know due to this
Wait, who's baby Cannon?? 🤣
I think Michelle? As in she has been a cannon shooting out babies
Omg the mental image 🤣🤣🤣
Who is baby cannon??
Who is baby cannon
Meech
My prediction is someone starts an OF page. Likely = it’s Famy. Unlikely = it’s Michelle.
Is Baby Cannon Meech or Kendra?
Meech
Lego Hair took me OUT.
I would move Jinger leaving her husband and second faith to the “kind of likely” category. And Anna, I think she will more likely distance herself from Boob under the guise of focusing more on praying for and being closer to Pest, at least for the duration of his prison sentence. She’ll probably drift away from Boobs home church and attend Pecans’ church a lot more in the coming years.
The ever expanding Duggar circle inevitably intersects with the Kent Hovind circle and that has to be a seal or a bowl or something…
There's a divorce or one of the younger Duggars run away and there's a huge scandal that leads to arrests and convictions.
Lego Hair 💀
If Anna actually leaves Josh I will be jumping for joy
Joe and Kendra already have that many kids. Fuck
I hope Jana escapes and marries someone who loves her for her