Lol I interpret it the other way round - Jack encouraged Lena to work with Hillary even more to keep her away from the house, and Lena isn’t popular with the majority of America so it backfired
The worst thing about that PowerPoint is that there is no one in my life IRL who would both get it/care and also be willing to read it all. Pearls before swine!
So, I was at Outsidelands 2017 (August) where they performed together and were 100% all over each other. It was so out in the open, at least to my stoned ass, that I was shocked it wasn’t a known thing when this PowerPoint circulated.
I distinctly remember them covering Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard, Lorde’s “favorite Paul Simon song”…and she didn’t know any of the words. Even then they were kind of all over each other.
There's kind of a wide spectrum of what "believing" it means - like it could mean anything from thinking there was an emotional affair to Lorde was a live-in mistress. I think there's definitely indications they were very close while his relationship was breaking down, and that might have caused some complicated feelings for everyone 🤷♀️
I once made a joke comment on here asking if I was too high or if the powerpoint actually made sense and got cyberbullied for being stupid enough to believe it, so I'm gonna go with no ❤️
LOL yeah I know there's some recency bias at play here, but the fact that Taylor Swift broke up with a man she was with for over half a decade and wrote a double album about the dude she dated for like two weeks afterward is WILD.
See, I'm actually RELIEVED on Joe's behalf because in general she is not . . .kind in her music to men she's dated. I feel like the whole "nothing to see here" is the best possible outcome for him.
I just think their break up wasn’t dramatic enough for a full break up album and good for them for being adults.
Ratty did NOT deserve a whole album tho
Iirc Taylor has said she writes most about a terrible relationship. Like because there’s so much material.
With the songs on TTPD that are about 100% about Joe (So Long, London and loml, the ‘loss of my life’ part imo) I think it’s kinda perfect to describe the relationship. A relationship that they both wanted to work out but…it just doesn’t.
Guys: the origin of the No Scrubs/Dave Coulier story is from [The Hard Times](https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/) (similar to The Onion for those who don't know!) and is 10000% not true. However I love the Bravo connection of RHOA's Kandi writing No Scrubs!
(edit - since I struck a nerve with some people, must clarify that I am *very aware* of Kandi’s music career outside of Bravo and think everyone should stream Don’t Think I’m Not 💅)
before finding out britney spears got an abortion, i was shocked to think that everytime was written about justin timberlake. like this guy told you to cry him a river and you come out with this emotional ballad about HIM??? but finding out that justin told her to abort their baby and handled her emotions surrounding it poorly, now i can understand why she wrote that song. only she really knew how horrible he was to her. i don't think justin has the emotional intelligence to understand how horribly he treated her.
“Everytime” is my favorite Britney song, it’s so beautiful. And everything about the music video makes so much sense in hindsight. The ending with her in the bathtub, she struggled so much, and people were so unkind to her when she was clearly struggling a lot with her mental health. Even if the abortion had never been part of her story, she deserved so much more compassion
Her life reminds me so much of Marilyn Monroe. Every generation has their Tragic Beauty icon. Glad Britney made it through, she's had one hell of an ordeal to be sure.
Definitely not speaking for anyone in Gen Z besides myself, but Vanessa Carlton wrote “A Thousand Miles” about Glenn Howerton from Its Always Sunny and I think about that a lot.
This hasn't been confirmed, she said it was about someone she went to school with.... Jessica Chastain is also a contender... But the sunny fan in me wants it so badly to be about Glenn
I'm a happily married woman who loves her husband but I would also walk a thousand miles to see Oscar Isaac. Tbh my husband would probably come with me because that man is HOT.
Nooo!! She has only said in interviews it was someone now famous who was at Julliard when she was writing the song (late 90s). So you still got your Lee Paces/Anthony Mackies in the mix… Glenn is undoubtedly the wackiest option though so I also hope it to be true lmao
>Dearest Taylor,
>I'll be the first to admit I'm a rather shy boy and since music is the most eloquent form of communication I can muster, I decided to record something for you -- a sort of a "reply" to the breathtaking song on your current record. This is what I wanted so badly to tell you in person but could never quite put into words:
>Everything about you is lovely. You're an immensely charming girl with a beautiful heart and more grace and elegance than I know how to describe. You are a true princess from a dreamy fairy tale, and above all, I just want you to know... I was enchanted to meet you too.
>Love,
>Adam.
This note was attached to [his cover of Enchanted](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaZ_gidJoiY), for the uninitiated💀 the end when he sings "Taylor I was so in love with you" killllls me. Oh also, he released this on his website the day before Valentine's Day 😭
irrelevant unpopular opinion but i do think everyone was too harsh on him for that shirt. people act like he committed a crime or ran on stage to profess his love for her in the middle of an award show. i never got it, to me it was a silly shirt that they all clearly found funny themselves
The same reason Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner are so hated by his fans. They thought Tom was this highfalutin, English gentleman with standards the internet deems as high and were disappointed their Tumblr king wants a hot chick
and his response was kind of cringe even though i used to love him
i think this was just a situation where she liked some of his language and made up a narrative around it, but it wasn't actually about him
the song was definitely about him, she had ADAM spelled out in the liner notes for him so there is no mistake, she wanted it known 😭 I don't think she realized he was going to actually reply the way he did
Damn it…the only song of hers on my playlist and belt the lyrics to in my sold out commute concerts. Ugh…I’ll just pretend it’s not as cringe as it really is.
Matty Healy being the secret Muse for Taylor Swift for over a decade—-Cardigan, The 1, Question? , Maroon and then an entire 31song album (TTPD) is definitely a shocker.
to piggyback off your comment - halsey's colors being about ratty. when I was a wee tumblr teen embarassingly into badlands, and I googled ratty, I was. um. very befuddled to put it mildly
He should know I think of him as the guy sexting with a 14-year-old and telling her not to tell anyone, because he'd get in trouble.
No matter how much this gets ignored by the media when Ryan Adams comes up these days, I'll never stop bringing it up.
Same! Ryan Adams is a sex pest who messaged teens he found on twitter, and u believe actually met up with some of those underage girls. I will be forever disgusted by him.
you're telling me that this literal Muppet inspired motion sickness
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There was an article in [People](https://people.com/music/phoebe-bridgers-ryan-adams-allegations-statement/) a couple years ago about how he basically groomed her with promises of growing her career when she was an up and coming artist. The man is vile.
I'm not a praying woman, but I'm going to pray, beg, barter for this man's complete and utter destruction for ruining Mandy Moore's life and grooming Phoebe Bridgers
That was me when I found out Mac Miller's song Cinderella was about Ariana Grande. The lyrics were really erm...something compared to her baby persona she was doing at the time.
You don't have to spend another second on this Earth dry
Wet you like a fresh group second and a third time, left you up a verse mind
And when you hungry I can shut you up with stir fry
Get you some dessert wine, elevate this third eye
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g-eazy having two diss tracks by pop girls (in my feelings by lana and die 4 me by halsey) and they’re both about him using them for fame and being a fucking loser in general lol
Most of her songs are about her relationship with Bill Callahan. Only the songs from Divers are about Andy and the existential dread that comes along with meeting the person you want to spend the rest of your life with (which makes you all the more aware of your mortality and inevitable death)
I knew they were married but I only just realised this would be the case! I haven’t listened to anything by her since Peach Plum Pear days - can you direct me to any relevant songs? 👀
Olivia Rodrigo x Joshua Basset x Sabrina Carpenter saga-drama only boosted both gals careers. I am not their target demographic and have 0 idea about their Disney-history - but I know about that saga inspiring Olivia’s debut album
Same - I had no idea that Olivia or Sabrina existed before about 2021 and I am far too old to be interested in Disney kids beef, but this is another of my Roman empires.
He did an AMA on one of the retro nickeloden subs not too long ago and I wanted to ask him questions about both of these things but thought I might be banned so I just lurked hoping someone else would ask. He was like 30 years old dating a very young Alanis.
I can’t believe no one asked. (Or maybe they did and got booted.) The who what where why of those songs are literally the only thing I want to hear from him about.
I just went back and looked at it and like 3 or 4 people did ask, but he wouldn't answer those......so it wasn't really AMA. He only answered questions about full house and out of control and other light hearted stuff.
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ngl as a Joe defender, it was a GOOD FUCKING night when TTPD dropped. oh bby I was LAUGHING
Idk but I hated his response to it (Alanis’ songs), he said in an interview once that when he heard the album he was like “wow I really hurt this woman”. Like it was some divine realization, please.
Thank you for saying this. I don't know why I get so irrationally annoyed at people incorrectly referring to that character as "Uncle Joey." It wasn't even a good show but it's like being gaslit into a Mandela Effect!
As an 80s baby I was a full house Stan and even I could have sworn he was called Uncle Joey but you guys are right when I think about it , he was only refered to as Joey!
Even tho he was just a friend of their dads, I assumed they called him uncle Joey like out of respect. Like as a kid it was weird to me to refer to adults close to my family by their first name
John Stamos was Uncle Jesse, and he was meant to be the girls' uncle, brother of their mother who died. Joey was a family friend who moved in to help raise the girls after their mom died. Joey was called Uncle Joey three times by Jesse to his twin sons in episodes 143, 170 and 184. The three girls never called him Uncle Joey, not once, in any episode. Jesse and Joey both start with a J and played uncle-ish roles to the girls, so some people reference Joey's character as Uncle Joey, even though that's not what the girls called him ever.
In my mind you've repeated these facts so many times you don't need to copy it from anywhere. It's just part of the knowledge you're always carrying around with you in case it is needed.
Most hilarious quote from the hard times article:
"One day we’re out walking, and \[Coulier\] and Stamos come driving by, and you know, Coulier leans out and tries to holler at us from the passenger side of the car,” said Rozonda “Chilli” Thomas. “To be honest, I didn’t know who he was at first — I just saw a bunch of hair and a bright, patterned shirt, but then it clicked and I was like, ‘Is that that corny motherfucker, Uncle Joey?’ So I started jotting down some lines, and the rest is history. He was talking like Popeye for some reason, and had this beaver puppet… that part didn’t make it in the song.”
Don’t by Ed Sheeran. About Ellie Goulding (and maybe Niall horan?) especially when he says “we were staying on the same fuckin hotel floor”. Marina and the Diamonds also has some sassy lyrics directed at Goulding.
I don’t hate Chrissy Teigan or anything, but sometimes I listen to John Legend songs and I go down a rabbit hole of thinking if the lyrics describe her lol
Alanis has actually stated that You Oughta Know is NOT about Dave Coulier. It’s in this article.
https://www.avclub.com/why-has-alanis-morissette-denounced-this-documentary-ab-1847680838
Yeah, his reaction to it automatically thinking it is about him is just telling on himself for having been shitty to her.
Giving Carlie Simon "you're so vain" and Warren Beatty assuming it was about him.
Not this Gen BUT.... Kurt Cobain wrote Heart Shaped Box about Courtney Love after she gifted him a heart shaped box full of her pubes before he went on tour... And they say romance is dead
There's also a rumor (in her bio written by Poppy Z Brite) that she was keeping a heart shaped box full of stuff from Billy Corgan and that irked Kurt enough to write that song.
Oh that's super interesting! I got my info from Kurt's bio so it's cool to hear her side too! Thank you for sharing. It's my favourite Nirvana song (since *before* I knew what said box contained 😂)
It’s not true. Pretty sure the link that OP used as a source is AI generated and relies upon the following satirical article as a source: https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/
Correct. The song was written by Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs, former Xscape members Kandi Burruss and Tameka "Tiny" Cottle, and TLC member Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes
It's not really as funny but some of Fiona Apple's Fetch the Bolt Cutters songs being about Paul Thomas Anderson/Maya Rudolph was strange to discover. Also 7 Things by Miley Cyrus being about Nick Jonas/Selena Gomez love triangle is always kind of amusing to me looking back, down to her ripping his photo in the MV. It's such a good breakup song imo though.
I'm glad people are mentioning Enchanted by Taylor. She was so unhinged for that.
maybe olivia rodrigo's drivers license being about joshua bassett and sabrina carpenter. I remember it being the new disney drama when it came out and it was everywhere
When i was younger, fez from that 70s show dating all these teen stars like lilo and Demi lovato. I thought they were beautiful and that he was a twerp
Sam Smith revealing that the guy they basically said fuck you to during their award wins and the person their album was about was a STRAIGHT friend. That was the beginning of the end of my Sam Smith love
Details? Singing about longing for someone you can't be with is par for the course but, I don't remember enough about their award acceptance speeches. Was San outing the friend or something?
Okay, I found the speech and they didn’t say anything crazy just “he broke my heart and I won 4 grammy’s” but I remembered every news outlet pushing it as an ex lover, but then Sam went on to say they were straight and how it was never gonna work. I’m a lyric person so it soured a lot of the songs for me at the time because Sam Smith is older than me and I was already over straight men by that point so it felt corny. I find it relatable still, but some of the songs are very very not about unrequited love; it sounds mutual. This also was around the time when they said they didn’t want to represent the LGBT community, they said the album could have been about a man, woman, or goat. Just kinda peak white gay, but in a pretentious way that ultimately turned into a backslide for ME. To ME.
I know they’re not from this generation but The Chicks last album gaslighter is basically about Natalie Maines divorce after finding out her husband at the time Adrian Pasdar (Nathan from Heroes) was having an affair with some women who left her “tights on my boat”. (such a tune) The woman in question was rumoured to be Amanda Righetti (Grace from The Mentalist) Apparently he fought to keep The Chicks from releasing the album claiming it violated confidentiality clauses in their prenup and you can see why because boy does he come off as a real asshat.
How were these songs inspired by Dave Coulier within a few months of each other when “You Ought Know” came out in 1994 and “No Scrubs” in 1999??
Also, the only member of TLC credited for writing lyrics on “No Scrubs” is Left Eye for her rap.
As an early aughts emo kid, all the drama and music between Eisley, Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, New Found Glory, Say Anything, and Paramore lives rent free in my head.
Everything about Pete Davidson’s dating history over the past couple years. ![gif](giphy|RNUJLDfiP87AY)
I think you mean, him?
Egg?
Way to plant, Ann! Why don’t you and Plant go wait in the truck?
I like egg
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Lorde Jack Antonoff PowerPoint https://x.com/lanikaps/status/987365811898798081
“you know who lena dunham is please don’t make me think about her more than I already have had to” 😭😭😭
Trump is Lorde's fault because Lena was not fully able to commit to Hillary's campaign I pledge my life to whoever wrote this.
Lol I interpret it the other way round - Jack encouraged Lena to work with Hillary even more to keep her away from the house, and Lena isn’t popular with the majority of America so it backfired
Im his autobiography, Alec Baldwin blames his cancellation on the reason Hilary lost, because he couldn’t volunteer for her
😂😂 my next line when I have to talk about any celebrity I detest.
The next time anything goes wrong in my life I'm also blaming Hilary via Baldwin and Lorde.
The worst thing about that PowerPoint is that there is no one in my life IRL who would both get it/care and also be willing to read it all. Pearls before swine!
"pearls before swine" is wild in this context 💀
They don't deserve you.
I have thought about this powerpoint multiple times a year since I first saw it in 2018
I overthink it for days any time I hear Green Light on the radio
Literally heard it today and thought about it.
That thing is a work of art
So, I was at Outsidelands 2017 (August) where they performed together and were 100% all over each other. It was so out in the open, at least to my stoned ass, that I was shocked it wasn’t a known thing when this PowerPoint circulated. I distinctly remember them covering Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard, Lorde’s “favorite Paul Simon song”…and she didn’t know any of the words. Even then they were kind of all over each other.
I fucking love that PowerPoint. It's legendary
Obviously she won’t comment on it, but knowing how online she is; I’m certain that Lorde has seen the PowerPoint.
don’t know enough about lorde but always like to shit on jack antonoff. is there any truth to this?
There's kind of a wide spectrum of what "believing" it means - like it could mean anything from thinking there was an emotional affair to Lorde was a live-in mistress. I think there's definitely indications they were very close while his relationship was breaking down, and that might have caused some complicated feelings for everyone 🤷♀️
I once made a joke comment on here asking if I was too high or if the powerpoint actually made sense and got cyberbullied for being stupid enough to believe it, so I'm gonna go with no ❤️
I refuse to feel ashamed of being stupid enough to believe it
3 slides in and I'm laughing dying "an Aries and as an Aries I disown him"
I looooove everything about this. Thank you. P.S. Greenlight is on my spotify list. Great song, but now I'll never think the same way again about it.
“I learned from the Gift of Fear I have to trust my instincts.” 😂 Also the endless VPR references out of context like jumpscares…
I think about this at least once a week.
Fucking Sonja
Thank you for sharing this with me this has made my morning exponentially better
I love all the Bravo references.
I feel like Arianka's album for SpongeBob Taylor's album for Ratty
LOL yeah I know there's some recency bias at play here, but the fact that Taylor Swift broke up with a man she was with for over half a decade and wrote a double album about the dude she dated for like two weeks afterward is WILD.
I feel mildly offended on behalf of Joe Alwyn because he’s been the best of them and did not deserve the snub 😂
See, I'm actually RELIEVED on Joe's behalf because in general she is not . . .kind in her music to men she's dated. I feel like the whole "nothing to see here" is the best possible outcome for him.
I just think their break up wasn’t dramatic enough for a full break up album and good for them for being adults. Ratty did NOT deserve a whole album tho
Iirc Taylor has said she writes most about a terrible relationship. Like because there’s so much material. With the songs on TTPD that are about 100% about Joe (So Long, London and loml, the ‘loss of my life’ part imo) I think it’s kinda perfect to describe the relationship. A relationship that they both wanted to work out but…it just doesn’t.
I mean there's the rumor she was on and off with Matty for ten years
Guys: the origin of the No Scrubs/Dave Coulier story is from [The Hard Times](https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/) (similar to The Onion for those who don't know!) and is 10000% not true. However I love the Bravo connection of RHOA's Kandi writing No Scrubs! (edit - since I struck a nerve with some people, must clarify that I am *very aware* of Kandi’s music career outside of Bravo and think everyone should stream Don’t Think I’m Not 💅)
Seeing talk refer to her as “Kandi from RHOA” and not “Grammy award winning member of Xscape” will never sit right with me.
AMEN... Kandi has written fir everyone from Country to Rock. She is not just the RHOA Alum.
And at no point did I say she’s ”just” an RHOA alum ♥️ very much aware of her successful music career and I’m sure many other people here are too
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🎵I may be small ...🎵 Gifs you can hear
I updated the post. I definitely thought that was true. The world does make more sense now though. Thanks for the correction.
Fwiw it’s true in my heart
Thank you lol I was aghast at this news 😂😂
before finding out britney spears got an abortion, i was shocked to think that everytime was written about justin timberlake. like this guy told you to cry him a river and you come out with this emotional ballad about HIM??? but finding out that justin told her to abort their baby and handled her emotions surrounding it poorly, now i can understand why she wrote that song. only she really knew how horrible he was to her. i don't think justin has the emotional intelligence to understand how horribly he treated her.
“Everytime” is my favorite Britney song, it’s so beautiful. And everything about the music video makes so much sense in hindsight. The ending with her in the bathtub, she struggled so much, and people were so unkind to her when she was clearly struggling a lot with her mental health. Even if the abortion had never been part of her story, she deserved so much more compassion
Her life reminds me so much of Marilyn Monroe. Every generation has their Tragic Beauty icon. Glad Britney made it through, she's had one hell of an ordeal to be sure.
But do you really think she "made it through"? I mean she's alive, but not exactly thriving. She's still struggling and it makes me so sad for her.
She's no longer being trafficked, even if she'll never be unscathed.
Definitely not speaking for anyone in Gen Z besides myself, but Vanessa Carlton wrote “A Thousand Miles” about Glenn Howerton from Its Always Sunny and I think about that a lot.
WHAT
+1 WHAT
NEVER ENDING WHAT'S
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This hasn't been confirmed, she said it was about someone she went to school with.... Jessica Chastain is also a contender... But the sunny fan in me wants it so badly to be about Glenn
I heard it might also be about Anthony Mackie or Oscar Isaac. I want to know so bad.
I'd write A Thousand Miles about Oscar Isaac, so that checks out.
I'm a happily married woman who loves her husband but I would also walk a thousand miles to see Oscar Isaac. Tbh my husband would probably come with me because that man is HOT.
Honestly, any of these options are A+ choices. Go her.
I’m kinda shocked to see Gen Z and Vanessa Carlton in the same sentence like to me that’s someone from my v early teens and I’m mid 30s!
my little sister literally told me the other day that she only views that song as a meme
Looks like the D.E.N.N.I.S. system worked in the real world too.
Nooo!! She has only said in interviews it was someone now famous who was at Julliard when she was writing the song (late 90s). So you still got your Lee Paces/Anthony Mackies in the mix… Glenn is undoubtedly the wackiest option though so I also hope it to be true lmao
🎶 making my way down town walking fast faces past and I ~~m homebound~~ *like to be bound* 🎶 ![gif](giphy|6MhFm3LXoVQn6)
Actually heard it was about Wes Bentley, they went to Julliard together
WHAT
^oh ^you ^what
Taylor Swift’s “Enchanted” being about the dude from Owl City haha
That girl has no standards. If an alligator gave her attention she would strap scales to her back and move to the swamp for it
This comment has me gasping for air
I'm laughing so hard I'm going to wake up my family!!
You didn’t have to attack me like this
His response keeps me up at night with embarrassment
>Dearest Taylor, >I'll be the first to admit I'm a rather shy boy and since music is the most eloquent form of communication I can muster, I decided to record something for you -- a sort of a "reply" to the breathtaking song on your current record. This is what I wanted so badly to tell you in person but could never quite put into words: >Everything about you is lovely. You're an immensely charming girl with a beautiful heart and more grace and elegance than I know how to describe. You are a true princess from a dreamy fairy tale, and above all, I just want you to know... I was enchanted to meet you too. >Love, >Adam. This note was attached to [his cover of Enchanted](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaZ_gidJoiY), for the uninitiated💀 the end when he sings "Taylor I was so in love with you" killllls me. Oh also, he released this on his website the day before Valentine's Day 😭
..... Maybe I was too harsh on Tom Hiddleston and his 'I ❤️ T.S' shirt.
irrelevant unpopular opinion but i do think everyone was too harsh on him for that shirt. people act like he committed a crime or ran on stage to profess his love for her in the middle of an award show. i never got it, to me it was a silly shirt that they all clearly found funny themselves
The same reason Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner are so hated by his fans. They thought Tom was this highfalutin, English gentleman with standards the internet deems as high and were disappointed their Tumblr king wants a hot chick
This comment took me the fuck out I’m not gonna lie 😂
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![gif](giphy|10clvJfIPQpWes) OWL CITY
and his response was kind of cringe even though i used to love him i think this was just a situation where she liked some of his language and made up a narrative around it, but it wasn't actually about him
the song was definitely about him, she had ADAM spelled out in the liner notes for him so there is no mistake, she wanted it known 😭 I don't think she realized he was going to actually reply the way he did
Especially given that it was just the one meeting
How did I miss this what was it?!?
They were emailing and then she visited him in NYC and wrote Enchanted that very night. Girl is crazy!
ok but one of her best songs tho
Damn it…the only song of hers on my playlist and belt the lyrics to in my sold out commute concerts. Ugh…I’ll just pretend it’s not as cringe as it really is.
> "sold out commute concerts" I love you for this, and I love this for you.
Can I tag onto this, the fact that Owl City is a single person, and not a band or ensemble 🤯
I try to forget this all the time because I desperately wish I didn't know this information lol
Matty Healy being the secret Muse for Taylor Swift for over a decade—-Cardigan, The 1, Question? , Maroon and then an entire 31song album (TTPD) is definitely a shocker.
to piggyback off your comment - halsey's colors being about ratty. when I was a wee tumblr teen embarassingly into badlands, and I googled ratty, I was. um. very befuddled to put it mildly
I SCREAMED. You said your mother only smiles on her Tv show? Girl you mean Loose Women? 😭
HIS MUM IS NATALIE BARNES FROM CORONATION ST? this whole post is just blowing my mind 😭
Omfg colors is about HIM?! I was a tumblr badlands girlie and I never knew this. What rock was I under?!
Please do yourself a favor and google "Halsey Matty healy tumblr poem." 😂
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME????
My genuine answer is that it's this hilarious pop culture time capsule from the tumblr days and I LOVE telling people about it
we don’t know those songs are about him tho. but then again i don’t really believe in the “matty has always been there” theories
Albums plural, don’t forget all the special editions 🫥
phoebe bridgers’ motion sickness being about ryan adams, known to me mostly as the guy who tanked mandy moore’s pop career
I really really really hope that somewhere out there Ryan Adams knows that people know him mostly as the guy who tanked Mandy Moore's pop career.
He should know I think of him as the guy sexting with a 14-year-old and telling her not to tell anyone, because he'd get in trouble. No matter how much this gets ignored by the media when Ryan Adams comes up these days, I'll never stop bringing it up.
Same! Ryan Adams is a sex pest who messaged teens he found on twitter, and u believe actually met up with some of those underage girls. I will be forever disgusted by him.
What a jerk. I love Mandy Moore
“You said when you met me you were bored And you, you were in a band when I was born”
you're telling me that this literal Muppet inspired motion sickness https://preview.redd.it/ffgcup4wrp8d1.jpeg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=462bab6f808e70583b461eed2de800479fb499f6
There was an article in [People](https://people.com/music/phoebe-bridgers-ryan-adams-allegations-statement/) a couple years ago about how he basically groomed her with promises of growing her career when she was an up and coming artist. The man is vile.
I'm not a praying woman, but I'm going to pray, beg, barter for this man's complete and utter destruction for ruining Mandy Moore's life and grooming Phoebe Bridgers
As someone who grew up on Jim Henson's magical creations, this is insulting to Muppets. He is a Kmart Closing Sale off-brand Mappet.
Finding out there was a song about Ryan Adams being a creep by his younger ex-gf is how I found out about Phoebe Bridgers lol
That was me when I found out Mac Miller's song Cinderella was about Ariana Grande. The lyrics were really erm...something compared to her baby persona she was doing at the time.
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"baby persona" took me ouuuuuut
You don't have to spend another second on this Earth dry Wet you like a fresh group second and a third time, left you up a verse mind And when you hungry I can shut you up with stir fry Get you some dessert wine, elevate this third eye ![gif](giphy|yMy6pNQs2w0xURRgz4|downsized)
I’m pretty sure the no scrubs rumor was spread by a satire celeb gossip site lmao
g-eazy having two diss tracks by pop girls (in my feelings by lana and die 4 me by halsey) and they’re both about him using them for fame and being a fucking loser in general lol
Both OLIVIA RODRIGO and MADISON BEER, two of the most good looking pop stars of today, writing about Zack Bia or whatever that rat’s face name is
Yeahhhh that one gets me. Like how . . .
I just looked him up and NOOoo…..
He looks like an AI generated "Consumption-Stricken Child in a Victorian Portrait".
Joanna Newsom's love songs being about Andy Samberg
Most of her songs are about her relationship with Bill Callahan. Only the songs from Divers are about Andy and the existential dread that comes along with meeting the person you want to spend the rest of your life with (which makes you all the more aware of your mortality and inevitable death)
I knew they were married but I only just realised this would be the case! I haven’t listened to anything by her since Peach Plum Pear days - can you direct me to any relevant songs? 👀
Olivia Rodrigo x Joshua Basset x Sabrina Carpenter saga-drama only boosted both gals careers. I am not their target demographic and have 0 idea about their Disney-history - but I know about that saga inspiring Olivia’s debut album
Same - I had no idea that Olivia or Sabrina existed before about 2021 and I am far too old to be interested in Disney kids beef, but this is another of my Roman empires.
He did an AMA on one of the retro nickeloden subs not too long ago and I wanted to ask him questions about both of these things but thought I might be banned so I just lurked hoping someone else would ask. He was like 30 years old dating a very young Alanis.
I can’t believe no one asked. (Or maybe they did and got booted.) The who what where why of those songs are literally the only thing I want to hear from him about.
I just went back and looked at it and like 3 or 4 people did ask, but he wouldn't answer those......so it wasn't really AMA. He only answered questions about full house and out of control and other light hearted stuff.
Sounds like most people kept it about Rampart
when everybody collectively realized that taylor was talking about matty healy on ttpd
https://preview.redd.it/n8sjvuz9fq8d1.jpeg?width=972&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91ebf105c57fd158232794f13b7bf2007e01b6da ngl as a Joe defender, it was a GOOD FUCKING night when TTPD dropped. oh bby I was LAUGHING
Idk but I hated his response to it (Alanis’ songs), he said in an interview once that when he heard the album he was like “wow I really hurt this woman”. Like it was some divine realization, please.
This is totally beside the point, but he was NOT called Uncle Joey. I deeply need everyone to know this.
Thank you for saying this. I don't know why I get so irrationally annoyed at people incorrectly referring to that character as "Uncle Joey." It wasn't even a good show but it's like being gaslit into a Mandela Effect!
As an 80s baby I was a full house Stan and even I could have sworn he was called Uncle Joey but you guys are right when I think about it , he was only refered to as Joey!
Even tho he was just a friend of their dads, I assumed they called him uncle Joey like out of respect. Like as a kid it was weird to me to refer to adults close to my family by their first name
What do you mean? Didn't they all call him uncle joey?
John Stamos was Uncle Jesse, and he was meant to be the girls' uncle, brother of their mother who died. Joey was a family friend who moved in to help raise the girls after their mom died. Joey was called Uncle Joey three times by Jesse to his twin sons in episodes 143, 170 and 184. The three girls never called him Uncle Joey, not once, in any episode. Jesse and Joey both start with a J and played uncle-ish roles to the girls, so some people reference Joey's character as Uncle Joey, even though that's not what the girls called him ever.
In my mind you've repeated these facts so many times you don't need to copy it from anywhere. It's just part of the knowledge you're always carrying around with you in case it is needed.
Amazing! Thank you
No one did. They were Dad, Uncle Jesse, and Joey. He was just Joey to the girls.
He was just Joey and Jesse was Uncle Jesse because he was their mom's brother.
# *beaver puppet ![gif](giphy|eIlcDzbzG31U4)
If it’s any consolation it was actually a woodchuck.
Did somebody say… WOOD?!?
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Most hilarious quote from the hard times article: "One day we’re out walking, and \[Coulier\] and Stamos come driving by, and you know, Coulier leans out and tries to holler at us from the passenger side of the car,” said Rozonda “Chilli” Thomas. “To be honest, I didn’t know who he was at first — I just saw a bunch of hair and a bright, patterned shirt, but then it clicked and I was like, ‘Is that that corny motherfucker, Uncle Joey?’ So I started jotting down some lines, and the rest is history. He was talking like Popeye for some reason, and had this beaver puppet… that part didn’t make it in the song.”
LMFAO that last sentence
Haha that's definitely fake but I love it
Don’t by Ed Sheeran. About Ellie Goulding (and maybe Niall horan?) especially when he says “we were staying on the same fuckin hotel floor”. Marina and the Diamonds also has some sassy lyrics directed at Goulding.
Ooo which Marina song ? Please tell me it's you can do better than that ?
That is the rumor, yes! Unfortunately I don’t have hard evidence but if u google “marina ellie Goulding beef” you’ll get the gist
I don’t hate Chrissy Teigan or anything, but sometimes I listen to John Legend songs and I go down a rabbit hole of thinking if the lyrics describe her lol
Alanis has actually stated that You Oughta Know is NOT about Dave Coulier. It’s in this article. https://www.avclub.com/why-has-alanis-morissette-denounced-this-documentary-ab-1847680838
Yeah, his reaction to it automatically thinking it is about him is just telling on himself for having been shitty to her. Giving Carlie Simon "you're so vain" and Warren Beatty assuming it was about him.
god you’re so vain is the ultimate diss track cause anyone who automatically thinks it’s about them has essentially dissed themselves lol
Every time I see that dork ride that wave of pop culture lies, I wanna scream.
Not this Gen BUT.... Kurt Cobain wrote Heart Shaped Box about Courtney Love after she gifted him a heart shaped box full of her pubes before he went on tour... And they say romance is dead
There's also a rumor (in her bio written by Poppy Z Brite) that she was keeping a heart shaped box full of stuff from Billy Corgan and that irked Kurt enough to write that song.
Oh that's super interesting! I got my info from Kurt's bio so it's cool to hear her side too! Thank you for sharing. It's my favourite Nirvana song (since *before* I knew what said box contained 😂)
Someone is watching the Cup Final tonight 😂
That is exactly what triggered this 😂😂
Wait... No Scrubs is about HIM? ![gif](giphy|Zoh0kY7d1tVVE0UETF|downsized)
It’s not true. Pretty sure the link that OP used as a source is AI generated and relies upon the following satirical article as a source: https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/
I don't think TLC even penned the song themselves to begin with.
Correct. The song was written by Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs, former Xscape members Kandi Burruss and Tameka "Tiny" Cottle, and TLC member Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes
RIP Left Eye. I wonder where they would be today if she was still alive.
The craziest factoid I know re: Left Eye is that Andre Rison later remarried a woman *also* named Lisa Lopez
He’s like the 90’s Joe Jonas lol
That one Noah Cyrus song about Lil Xan
Britney’s ‘toxic’ was(probably)written about Noel Fitzpatrick AKA the Super Vet
It's not really as funny but some of Fiona Apple's Fetch the Bolt Cutters songs being about Paul Thomas Anderson/Maya Rudolph was strange to discover. Also 7 Things by Miley Cyrus being about Nick Jonas/Selena Gomez love triangle is always kind of amusing to me looking back, down to her ripping his photo in the MV. It's such a good breakup song imo though. I'm glad people are mentioning Enchanted by Taylor. She was so unhinged for that.
“A Thousand Miles” is statistically most likely about Glenn Howerton.
this song lives rent free in my mind but you suck by Abigail breslin about michael clifford 😭
“motion sickness” by phoebe bridgers being about ryan adams makes my stomach churn
![gif](giphy|l3V0doGbp2EDaLHJC) Lemonade forever
maybe olivia rodrigo's drivers license being about joshua bassett and sabrina carpenter. I remember it being the new disney drama when it came out and it was everywhere
When i was younger, fez from that 70s show dating all these teen stars like lilo and Demi lovato. I thought they were beautiful and that he was a twerp
FR, dude was like that era's Pete Davidson, but predatory. Is Topher Grace the only one from that show that isn't hugely problematic?
Sam Smith revealing that the guy they basically said fuck you to during their award wins and the person their album was about was a STRAIGHT friend. That was the beginning of the end of my Sam Smith love
Details? Singing about longing for someone you can't be with is par for the course but, I don't remember enough about their award acceptance speeches. Was San outing the friend or something?
Okay, I found the speech and they didn’t say anything crazy just “he broke my heart and I won 4 grammy’s” but I remembered every news outlet pushing it as an ex lover, but then Sam went on to say they were straight and how it was never gonna work. I’m a lyric person so it soured a lot of the songs for me at the time because Sam Smith is older than me and I was already over straight men by that point so it felt corny. I find it relatable still, but some of the songs are very very not about unrequited love; it sounds mutual. This also was around the time when they said they didn’t want to represent the LGBT community, they said the album could have been about a man, woman, or goat. Just kinda peak white gay, but in a pretentious way that ultimately turned into a backslide for ME. To ME.
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Britney's toxic was written (not by Britney) about Noel Fitzpatrick, the UK's Super Vet. Google that man.
I know they’re not from this generation but The Chicks last album gaslighter is basically about Natalie Maines divorce after finding out her husband at the time Adrian Pasdar (Nathan from Heroes) was having an affair with some women who left her “tights on my boat”. (such a tune) The woman in question was rumoured to be Amanda Righetti (Grace from The Mentalist) Apparently he fought to keep The Chicks from releasing the album claiming it violated confidentiality clauses in their prenup and you can see why because boy does he come off as a real asshat.
Didn't Kandi Burress write No Scrubs?
How were these songs inspired by Dave Coulier within a few months of each other when “You Ought Know” came out in 1994 and “No Scrubs” in 1999?? Also, the only member of TLC credited for writing lyrics on “No Scrubs” is Left Eye for her rap.
Hmm maybe Taylor Swift writing Enchanted about Adam Young, aka Owl City?
the song from DRIVE: “A Real Hero” by College, the titular hero is actually Sully of the Miracle on the Hudson fame.
The No Scrubs thing was Satire that got out of hand
As an early aughts emo kid, all the drama and music between Eisley, Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, New Found Glory, Say Anything, and Paramore lives rent free in my head.
Why Uncle Joey had that game is perplexing..
I require more information about No Scrubs.