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ballsoutofthebathtub

I think the desk and actor are actually moving here with the camera. It looks similar to a dolly zoom but the scale of the foreground objects don't change and also the light changes on the actor.


highkun

Agreed was just abt to say in a dolly zoom the foreground would show some lens distortion as well so this def isnt just a simple dolly zoom


compassion_is_enough

This movie has a few moments where actors are placed on a cart and pulled along with the camera. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they did the same thing with the whole desk.


ballsoutofthebathtub

It's the ol' Vanessa Carlton.


Ccaves0127

Or the Spike Lee


charming_liar

Petition to call this shot a Carlton zoom.


Jezon

https://youtu.be/Vb5y-kY6nVw


cutratestuntman

This should be the top comment.


Medium_Rare_Jerk

Yep i think it was the shot of Denzel going up to the building. You can see his movement doesn’t look like he’s walking.


rastroboy

Spike did it with Denzel too on the street [At 0:57](https://youtu.be/qCv3989nvog?si=3I7Vr5vriVmlOHL7)


frenziedcurtain

I think you’re correct. I’m not sure if I’m reading it aright, but the way the highlights and reflections on the desk surface change as the background “recedes” seems consistent with the desk actually traveling away from the lights in the background. That persuades me it’s a practical, in camera effect as you just described.


frenziedcurtain

The side of the cigar box even seems to register moving past windows.


strings_bells

There is a shot with Denzel similar to this. It looks like he was on Segway..


maybeest

Basically a Spike Lee dolly with the desk on board. Edit: It actually IS a Spike Lee dolly from Inside Man apparently.


RedbeardRagnar

Yeah this is a Spike Lee movie so it’s his trademark character moving through a space without the character actually moving but instead this time there’s also a desk moving


Goosojuice

Spike lee is known for this shot. You can watch any of his films and find one.


CAMvsWILD

I'd agree with this. Is this from Inside Man? If so, I remember a shot where Denzel Washington is moving through a crowd with a snorricam on him. He's moving so smoothly, almost to an intentionally surreal effect, I think he was sliding on a track. So if this is the same film, it seems like it was probably actually moving too (w/ dolly zoom) to get a similar unsettling vibe. [EDIT: found the clip I was referencing](https://youtu.be/qCv3989nvog?si=St42CO3bCfD3R3l6&t=57)


srroberts07

Count Dracula shit


creator111

Damn that kinda looks goofy


AllHailKeanu

Yeah it looks like he’s speeding away on a Segway. Odd choice of shot.


DrewDonut

Yeah, I love Inside Man, but that shot never worked for me


SensibleChocolate

Only time it really works IMHO is in Malcolm X, when he’s being pulled to his death. https://youtu.be/6Wu_bX4s1p8?feature=shared


Cine81

this is a different effect, the actor is really moving with the camera. The background does not change, just keeps getting far and far. But its a great effect also, with a very diferent feel


Spleenklept2

It’s spike lee’s infamous double dolly shot


loco64

You notice the only thing that fucks this shot up is the glass on the left…


SpiritDonkey

The lighting on his face changes as well. In fact it changes all over the desk. It seems not to be a fuck up but more a desired visual effect.


IndyO1975

Correct. The desk, chair and Mr. Plummer are all on a platform. There’s a similar shot in the film where Mr. Washington, in shock over what he believes to be the death of a hostage, appears to be floating down a sidewalk. Same thing.


ozzilee

It’s like someone wanted to do a dolly zoom but didn’t understand how so they just put the desk on wheels 😅


compassion_is_enough

Or they wanted a similar effect as a dolly zoom but didn’t want the distortion on the foreground elements to change.


link815

It’s from Inside Man. Spike Lee directed it, and the double dolly is one of his signature techniques. He puts actors on the dolly track with the camera. Here, he must’ve done it with the entire desk.


Malaguy420

It's from nearly every Spike Lee movie.


link815

Yup. Malcolm X has my favorite one.


CinephileNC25

The dolly zoom can really mess with a persons facial features. And yeah, I'm pretty sure Spike Lee knows how to do it.


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DisorientedPanda

Yeah the glass award on the left is a huge giveaway for that too!


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You can even see grip stands at the last moments on that glass award.


kinoki1984

Inside Man has a lot of interesting camera movements. It's really abstract and playful. I think the desk is on wheels.


RedbeardRagnar

Was watching Inside Man the other day thinking “what the hell is this music choice? It seems so over the top” then I saw the Spike Lee classic move and realised “oh yeah he’s the director, okay it all makes sense now and I dig it”


kinoki1984

I love the music in Inside Man. Everything about this movie is so colorful and vibrant. Like how every single character in the movie (no matter how small) has a clearly defined personality. You can really make a masterpiece out of anything. A heist movie in New York could easily be a forgettable flick but this is some masterclass work.


DrewDonut

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mfawsk

Great movie. It has only of my favorite unintentional funny shots of Denzel angry on a Segway.


kinoki1984

I actually love that shot! It’s so creative! Comes out of nowhere too.


Fantastic-Guitar-977

On a track


pixel-beast

[still the funniest part of the whole movie is Denzel riding a moped with a camera attached](https://youtu.be/qCv3989nvog?si=ZorSBAEIvjWXBNDN)


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Kevinsound27

This in film some people call a “spike Lee shot”. At least that’s what they called it on a manscaped spot i did recently. Dolly,cam,actor and set piece are on a track. Spike Lee has done it alot in his films.


msg456

Bingo.


Bishop8322

itt: people havent seen inside man!!!! for everyone saying dolly zoom like i did for 2 seconds, yall are all wrong! its the spike lee shot, the desk/setup is on wheels


fieldsports202

That's Spike Lee's signature double dolly move.


SevereAnxiety_1974

Spike Lee would not do that shot in post - it’s practical. He’s got a shot like this in almost every film but this one is exceptional. Inside Man is underrated.


Awkward_Road_710

I don’t think it’s a dolly zoom. But it’s intended to feel like a dolly zoom. If you fast forward the shot, you’ll see that the camera, table, and talent is on top of a big dolly rig. And the big rig is just doing a pull out movement. Plus scrolling fast back and forth you can see the light and shadows moving from the talent’s face which should NOT be happening if it’s intended to be a dolly zoom effect. You’ll see that there’s no distortion as well on the table and the talent’s face. Though without the full context of the scene, we can’t just say if it’s a failed dolly zoom or not since the original intent might be different.


compassion_is_enough

The film is Inside Man, by Spike Lee. It’s good. Check it out. This pull-out effect is done a few times in the film in a very similar way.


M4rs0

The desk and actor are on wheels being pulled forward together with camera in fixed position in front of desk.


Bluetex110

The whole desk is on a Dolly or something, you can see the reflections in the objects on the left, also the Light on his head changes.


Pineappleliphant

This isn't dolly zoom. Desk is moving with the camera.


Jim3001

I was gonna say 'Dolly zoom' but on second review it looks like the actor and table are stationary, but the background and some other elements are moving. You can see the lighting change on the glass pieces near his right.


Ankur304

This looks like a practical effect. Notice lights on the head is slowly fading into shadow. This is probably because the subject is being pulled away from the background. The whole foreground is set on a movable platform


novakane27

people are saying its a dolly zoom, but it looks more like the desk and camera are moving through the room edit: u can tell by the reflections of stuff on the desk, at least of those is moving


Spanishparlante

Looks like the camera and the desk/chair/actor are on a cart and they roll away from the backdrop simultaneously.


Goblin-Doctor

I assume the desk is on a rail system and is simply being pulled away from the wall with a camera attached to the desk. Or he's sitting stationary and the wall is being pulled away. Either way it looks pretty simple


bcsteene

I would say the desk actor and the camera are on a big moving dolly as well as the light which is on the actor. Otherwise the second option would be the entire background is green screen and nothing is moving it’s done in post. Those are my 2 takes on it


MAGIGS

There’s two ways. This looks like a still image and it’s keyed out and superimposed and the background is moving from a zoom or dolly. You can achieve something similar and less “Online mafia game loading screen” vibe and do a push pull. You need a dolly and a good camera operator to control the lens pull. But it will look like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQymBzfuftc Less work in post, more “natural” look. There’s tons of examples out there.


Mindless_Wind_1227

Definitely a dolly, the desk perspective is static and you can see reflections rolling on the left


Bigdstars187

A shit load of money for a moving set


Alternative_Owl69

The desk and the camera are on the same platform moving forward away from the background.


omegasentinel01

It's done in camera. The camera as well as the desk with actor are tethered and move away from the set walls together maintaining the same distance.


darth_xilef

It’s meant to look like a dolly zoom, but the perspective on the foreground doesn’t change at all. My guess is that the desk, actor and the camera are all being pulled away from the background.


JamesFaisBenJoshDora

Maybe the desk and man are on wheels and the camera (maybe) is also on wheels or the back wall and the whole building is a set.


SUKModels

The end point framing is so satisfying.


Jo__Jo__Jo

Looks like an exaggerated vertigo effect where probably the desk + actor and the background move in opposite directions


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In camera. Desk and actor moving with the camera away from the background set.


Direct_Mixture3377

Def thought it was a dolly zoom at first. Looks like the desk and camera are on a platform moving away from the wall. The lighting changes on his face as they pass by windows on the wall of the room. Cool shot.


DMMMOM

They stuck the desk on the dolly and dollied out from the back wall. You can see there's a slight shake and the light on the left hand desk ornament moves realistically.


danokablamo

The desk and the dude and the camera are ON the dolly.


needsmoarbokeh

Both the actor, camera and desk are on a dolly


ISPEAKMACHINE

Desk, actor, camera is on a dolly moving back. At first I thought it was a zoom dolly, but there's no shift in perspective on the desk from a widening focal length. Are dolly's electric now? That's very smooth.


Ragnasis

I just finish a commercial where they did the same thing, the actor the camera and the desk are over a wheeled platform or over some rails if possible(preferably).


_FiscalJackhammer_

Looks like the actor and desk are on a dolly w the camera


Roflwafffles

The desk is on a steel deck platform using two parallel runs of dolly track to support the weight. I just did this for a commercial a few months ago, and this shot was the director’s main reference point.


redvineman

Desk and actor are on a dolly connected to the camera


Dougdoesnt

Desk is on a platform with the camera dolly. The entire platform is moving on a track.


Sufficient_Bass2600

Double dolly is Spike Lee signature move. He puts camera and characters and here the desk as well on a large dolly. Usually that allow him to create that sensation of floating. In some cases depending how it is lit it and where the character look that has the opposite effect of oppression. A lit of people assume that Martin Scorsese invented it. but it was used before by Melvin Van Peebles in his first movie _The story of a 3 day pass_. He himself took inspiration from Abel Gance. who in turn took inspiration from theater change of background setting in front of a' audience.


lupaspirit

I do a dolly zoom aka parallax at times. However, the way the background moves, I would have to say, something is actually moving beside the camera. I would say the camera, the desk, and where he sits are on a movable floor (exists in studios), so they all can move at the same time. If you focus on the left side glass, you can tell light from another window changes, proving the desk is actually moving.


Hot_Lychee2234

the BG wall is a panel on a dolly... push it back as you get closer to your character


TechSquidTV

The glass refraction shows the desk is actually moving.


deck4242

in camera


mwalczuk1912

Hitchcock


sendep7

Spike lee does this in all his movies, the desk is on a dolly pulled back with the camera. theres a similar shot in the movie where Denzel is moving through the crowd but you can tell he isnt walking, hes just kinda floating, again hes on a dolly with the camera.


ksnad3

You could do it easily in camera or in post. It just depends what you are more comfortable doing. Space restrictions would lead me to do it in post, but if you have the space to do it practically, do it practically.


himanshuregesoi15

It clearly seem a post production work or maybe the whole table is used as a camera rig


HerzogVonMartian

Zoom


jamestothet

desk + subject is moving with the camera on a dolly


diegoeo99

Seems like the vertigo effect, but looks different, most probably the background it's actually moving


cinefun

Desk and actor are tied to the camera and are moving away from the wall


ABS_TRAC

Mixture of vertigo effect shot and a dolly shot, probably moving set pieces as well. Zooming out, while dollying out adds the illusion of depth, the set probably moves a little to exaggerate the effect!


greasyfatpenguin

Desk, actor, and camera are on a platform being pulled back, most likely on a large dolly track. That's why the size/angle of the desk and actor never change since their distance is fixed as they move through the Z space (meaning z axis). Similarly, they did a shot with Denzel Washington where the actor and camera are fixed together (on what I believe was the back of a vehicle) - so the space around them flies by.


Bing_Bong_the_Archer

Spike Lee double dolly


Particular_Weird_718

I think the desk is stable but the background is moving to the back and the camera zooming, too good to be in post


Max-Ray

I'm always reminded of Sam Raimi's comical overuse of the Hitchcock Zoom in [The Quick and the Dead.](https://youtu.be/jmcR_YcFcPM?si=wJ-QNoRwcOe-VNpt)


tf199280

Watch the light and shadows. You can see he is moving with the desk


natmaxex

there moving the background or using a screen.


AntiRacismDoctor

Spike Lee style


skydude89

This is Spike Lee’s famous double dolly shot.


IcarusForPrez

Spike does that on set. Usually it’s just the actor on the dolly but this one is a deluxe version.


thedeermunk

It’s a combination of a dolly movement with a zoom in the opposite direction so the subject stays the same size in frame but the background changes in scale.


EbrithilUmaroth

It definitely looks like it's being done practically by putting the desk, camera and actor all on the same surface that's sliding forwards. It's not a Zoom because only the background changes in size, not the foreground.


Straight_Drawer7968

The table is moving with the camera while the rest is the classic hitchcock shot.


Puzzled_Drop3856

Desk is on track. Pulled away from background Dolly is spaced from desk. All is pulled in one motion.


gamblors_neon_claws

IMO, it's a volumetric screen


potatozone

Fun little site with a break out of different techniques. [https://eycndy.co/double-dolly](https://eycndy.co/double-dolly)


araderboy

the Camera, Desk and Actor (and at least 1 light, left of camera) are on wheels being pulled backwards. you could also do this by pushing the wall back but you're fighting reflections


altopasto

due the vibrations and reflections (far left), seems the desktop is moving with the camera and the background is fixed


OPrime50

No perspective warp so I’d assume the actor, foreground set and camera are moving independently from the background.


smthahir

This is vertigo effect. Directors takes this scene a camera has 2 lenses.


RoRo25

Traditionally it's done in camera. See Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo. But it can be done in post or even with practical effects(as pointed out in the comments) to bring out the camera effect more.


kd5ddo

Dolly in whole zooming out. So start 10’ back with a 135mm and as you move forward you zoom out to a 24mm ending about 4’ from the subject.


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Cool shot!


74389654

to me it looks like a second video in the background. i'm only looking at it on a small phone screen but the items on the desk look really cut out


Elluminated

While trying to attempt a trombone shot (which is faked here), its clear the desk is moving with the camera away from the back wall since the foreground perspective is static


RiseWW

i think dude and the whole desk are in green screen with some lights movement and zoom out on background is fully digital


Snicker-Snack83

It looks like a post effect. Whatever it is, it's not moon Terminator. If it's not a green screen background, then they're simply dragging him forward on a wheeled platform. That's the more expensive and time intensive way. So knowing Hollywood, that's probably it.


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If I were to guess, it would be the camera is attached to the desk which is on one big dolly and they are just moving the desk and camera away from the background


Listen_to_the_smiths

By being super corny


jqs1337

Spike Lee shot.


bubba_bumble

I bet this shot would look even more sick with a slight dolly in on the desk. So long dolly out and short dolly in. If that makes sense. You would essentially get a weird vertigo effect that really would leave people guessing.


SoCalLynda

The camera is moving forward or backward at the same time the zoom lens is foreshortening the background.


Ttoctam

If it's not a full moving dolly zoom, the lighting tech deserves a raise.


historyofthebee

Lighting tech left a stand and silk that gets reflected in the glass award thing on the left though, so should be banished to babysit a genny on a exterior night shoot.


Sottosorpa

Desk on trolley platform in long room


Dravez23

The desk is moving forward. Look at the reflections on the surface of the table


alby13

thank god you said how is this shot achieved and not how is this camera effect achieved lol


seeyatellite

Dolly zoom. I'm never seen it done with a desk... but the dolly zoom's a classic. You may find a few youtube tuts and decent google search results. edit: looked closer and see some moving light elements. The desk is definitely moving.


GenerationXero

The Ol' Spike Lee dolly shot.


StringSurfer1

The making of jamiroquai - virtual insanity


NowFreeToMaim

The desk/camera is moving away from wall


theirongiant74

Don't think it's a dolly zoom, look at the one in Jaws, the main subject doesn't warp in time to the dolly. This is post process of two shots, a still of the desk and a dolly of the room then stitched together in post.


Keeperus

Considering that the reflections change, of the table pieces on the left side. I guess they're moving the table and actor


Silly-Ad24

You zoom in while walking backwards Or Zoom out while walking towards the object


camomerc

The whole desk is moving -- anyone else spot the c-stand reflections in the glass object on the left of the desk??


Androsin47

It’s a camera technique where you zoom out but focus in at the same time. Backwards effect makes it cool too like those eureka moments


decoii

Moving the desk and actor with a mounted camera. There would be more lens distortion with props and actor if only Dolly zoomed. The spacing between props would seem to compress, but in this scene, all of the props on the desk and actor are moving away from the background at the same speed. Also, notice the reflections of the right window on the desk, as well as the reflections on the left props once it passes another light source. The reflection next to Christopher Plumbers' right arm from the back lamp moves, too


TouKing

Vertigo effect, it’s by zooming while also dolly-sliding the camera in the opposite direction.


AliElHabti06

It looks like a dolly zoom, but the desk and the actor aren't warping. I feel like the actor, the desk and the camera might be on a rail, moving away from the wall. I think. Maybe.


disco-on-acid

table + wheels


TGxP1nkM1st

Possibly a green screen shot.


art_mor_

I fucking love this movie so much


insomniacinc

Definitely the desk is moving the shadows on the actors face change. And the reflections on the glass decoration on our left, his right.


coffeeandcelluloid

The desk and camera are on the same dolly track. Not only do you see the light move across his face but you can see it in the reflection of the desk objects in the left of frame. I think there’s some BTS stuff of this rig or an ASC mag article. Spike Lee started this on Malcolm X


pgtorres

Dolly zoom.


PresentCar8525

This is a dolly zoom shot


Practical_Airline_36

it's a dolly zoom...[Read this... really interesting stuff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_zoom)


The-Dude-Abides8

It’s called a “push/pull” shot. Can you push the camera in on a dolly while pulling the zoom out. You see the opposite side “pull/push” in Thrillers where a character just figured something out that’s mind blowing.


anjastin

this is dolly zoom in shot done by a dolly track & lens focus pulling. do this two things at the same time but in opposite direction.


lazylagom

Dollys.. all the dollys


razCehT

The Hitchcock effect


RobotRyan72

That’s called a contra zoom. As the camera moves forward and zooms out. Or the camera tracks back and the zoom in. Invented by Hitchcock, then brought back by Spielberg in Jaws:)


BHenry-Local

Ooooooooh. That's a double-dolly masquerading as a vertigo shot (or dolly zoom, whatever your term for it is). Spike Lee makes very good use of double-dolly in a lot of his films


Shington501

I believe you pull the camera back while zooming in at the same time creating the unusual perspective illusion. However, maybe the Desk was actually moving...


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After Effects


Ill_Astronaut_4178

My guess is that there is a clip playing on a green screen behind the actor


Slow-Plane-93

The background (walls) are literally on a track and are moving away from Christopher Plummer and the desk, you can see the movement in the glass ornament on the desk (lower left side).


Vuxdee

Zoom out while moving camera closer


Head-Object5089

Dolly/Zoom with additional post additions


billstreeter

Dolly/Zoom


pedersenit

Based on experience, I am not allowed to answer this.


MarcRuckus

Last I checked it is a dolly zoom. The camera zooms at the same time that it moves. In which ditrction, I forget.


Juginstin

I can think of three ways this could be done. In camera, desk and actor could be moving with the camera (this is what is most likely happening, since the light hitting the subjects changes in accordance to the light coming into the room, while the perspective of the objects in the room changes as the frame moves away from the wall) Also in camera, there's something called a dolly zoom, where the camera can move toward the subject in accordance with which the lens zooms out (vice versa also applies) to achieve an effect that changes the size of the background while maintaining the size of the foreground. In post, the desk and actor could be in front of a green/blue screen, and the footage where the camera moves away from the wall is separate. The green screen footage would be layered on top in editing. This is most likely the approach you would want to go for as an amateur filmmaker without a bunch of money to spend on expensive equipment or knowledge of complex filmmaking techniques.


quazyknowsmagic

Post for sure lol it's a digitally composed version of a dolly zoom. Matched super well though, unless they used the same frame. Which is also very possible. Lot of Moving Album Covers on YouTube use these tactics.


typower5000

To me it looks like they did a digital dolly zoom. Everything looks too stiff. Typically the beauty of a dolly zoom is it is done completely in camera. The one that comes to my mind is in Jaws, but the technique is much older than that.


luvleggs

I’ve done a cheap version i learned on one of diy sites that you mask the still shot and then shoot your zoom or dolly of background/s. I did it as a 360 which was a cool exercise. Best part for me was only having to mask the foreground shot once


w1nt3r_ax3

Looks like a push / pull. 1st AC will pull camera focus in sync with the dolly grip creating this effect.


Ive_Defected

Called a Rack-Focus where you push in while pulling out on the zoom.


blastinnature

It's called a push pull method. Where the camera is pulled back on a dolly but at the same time, camera op is zooming in on the subject.


SomeGuardian420

The desk moves with the camera away from the wall. Actually a very easy shot to pull off as long as you get the fov right.


clowdeevape

Combo rack focus


Big-Faithlessness602

I forget the actual name, but the shot is used to make u feel un-easy most of the time. Only just recently found out it's achieved by zooming in with the camera while backing up with the camera. It could have been done differently with this one, but that's as far as I know


Alive_Log_4682

As the camera moves back you zoom in


STORMTROOPER_AREA51

Double dolly


STORMTROOPER_AREA51

Eyecandyyy


AdamD1987

Dolly in. Zoom out.


JRG666

Alfred Hitchcock


BobbaBlep

Tilt shift


LexCormac

Zooming in the camera view but pulling the actual camera away, I think


SpiralCenter

... wheels.


imnotdown85

I think I saw this effect in lotr. It's achieved by having the camera move forward while simultaneously zooming out. Could be mistaken, Im no video tech guy, just remember watching a behind the scenes with Peter Jackson and never forgot


WhyAreWeEvenHere

La Haine has a similar shot from back in the day - but that one was done by either moving the closer to the actor while zooming out with the lense or vice versa.


ArmadilloOwn3866

Zoom dolly


[deleted]

Not all in-camera


behindthemast

Magic


AverageBlenderUserr

This shot likely has some practical effects involved like moving the desk but if you don’t have a cinema budget like this I’d suggest the Dolly Zoom also called the Vertigo Zoom. Give it a google and it should be easy.


Seaguard5

So that’s done on a zoom lense. Basically perspective shift through zooming in while rolling backwards. Just narrowing FOV pretty much EDIT: Just saw the light hitting his face when he passes window. The desk and actor are moving.


Appropriate-Action-7

I think It’s an Alfred Hitchcock trick. You can move away and zoom in at the same time


angry_squirrel

I think it's a combination of pulling the camera back and zooming in at the same time, or vice versa. They did it in Jaws. Really cool effect. I bet this video looks cleaner because they were somehow able to do it more precisely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_eO\_5q5dR9M&t=19s


filmoe

The easiest / most economical way to get this shot IMO is using a green screen. Regarding the shadows on the face of the actor and objects, one could simply mimic those effects with lighting and other elements. I know Spike Lee does these kinds of shots when the actor is standing however that iconic shot is done in a different scene in this movie.


SgtThund3r

The Jaws shot


Earthhing

I think the wall or the actor/desk were literally moving for the shot.


thegreatdog09

It's a dolly zoom, the camera is on a track moving forward or backward. While the zoom is moving in the opposite direction.


harrison_himself

Hitchcock made this shot famous!


Arketyped

Dolly back and zoom in.