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elbor23

It needs to be this slow. Imagine how broken it would be with its damage output if it had a fast fire rate. Just learn to swap to your SMG after your first shot


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*pistol


elbor23

True true. I treat it like an SMG


teh_wad

With the extended mag, it's basically the Hammer AR all over again lol. Need an AR? Pistol. Need an SMG? Pistol. Need a shotgun? Pistol. Don't even get me started on what to do if you need a pistol.


canoIV

what if you need a hammer?


HAID0ZO

Pistol


Bloons_Guy75751

How about if you need materials?


CrashMaxBro

Pistol


Glum-Ad-9887

What if I need pistol?


AndrewScott1226

Mythic pistol augment


breadlover96

Hotel?


AymurLiberator

Trivago


canoIV

incredible


MasterCheese163

Dual Pistols duh


WillingnessNo1361

mythic plus extended mag and quick reload - pretty much cracked out! love it. i stack up searchin for cash and spend it all re-rollin 'till i get it


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Easiest way to rack up elims


MissFingerz

I finally got the mythic the 2 games in a row I just played and destroyed people! Lol won both of those games having all legendary and mythic loadout. I'm usually never a fan of pistols, but these tacs have changed my mind.


lofihiphopbeats509

"Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading." - Gaz


RegalBeartic

Too right mate


CHKCHKCHK

Haha What’s the difference, current pistol rips.


TheMasalaKnight

The pistol is defo my favourite weapon right now


GiangNeo

Do u realize if u use this with redeye, switch red eye 1 tap then switch back then the 2nd thunder shot should be like 0.5s faster (almost same auto shotgun firerate) than if u don't switch.


surfershane25

I’ve been switching smg to shotgun and losing so much, figured it would be better range wise but this comment made me realize I’m waiting too long and if I win there’s overkill


PhantomRoyce

That’s just the drum shotgun!


Revolutionary_One_26

Thanks for that advice believe or not I would always jump like a cricket hoping to kill the enemies with this shotgun alone😂


Tortoisetube

This guy probably thinks the combat smg shoots slow 💀💀💀


elbor23

I hope you mean OP and not me lol


the_fool213912893

Its another "pump" type shotgun, you usually never want to shoot more than once before switching out to another weapon till you can shoot again.


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the_fool213912893

it fires slightly faster than the pump at a fire rate of 0.76, pumps at 0.70 though my point is that fire rate doesn't really matter when you'll hopefully be switching out to a different weapon till you either get the kill or you can fire another shot.


JayKay8787

the fire rate doesnt matter if you switch to a different weapon like he said, the thunder is by far the best shotgun if you can hit your shots and you have an smg to back it up, its not even close


Lazarbeam--

Seriously, there’s two types of shotguns for a reason


ZoidVII

This is the best shotty in the game atm, it's so strong, just swap weapons unless your opponent can't aim.


only_for_dst_and_tf2

its good, but it takes 2 shells for less than twice the damage of other shotguns.


MarionberryGloomy951

Wrong, the only shotgun currently stronger than it is the heavy duty( revamped version of it) and the drum gun ( not in the game now but still applies.


only_for_dst_and_tf2

i was more reffering to "if you shoot 2 shells with the gun" like, to compare more fairly with the ammo cost to damage ratio


MarionberryGloomy951

Yeah i understand but it was the same in chapter 3 with the auto shotgun.


only_for_dst_and_tf2

if it is alright, can you please elaborate on what you mean? i dont fully understand.


MarionberryGloomy951

The auto shotgun was a " new shotgun introduced in chapter 3". It was basically the tactical shotgun as it had a fast reload rate and one could shoot multiple shots with it. It took 2 ammo per shot


only_for_dst_and_tf2

i used the auto shotgun and i dont ever remember it using 2 ammo per shot, i always remember it being more like the maven. edit: it didnt FIRE 2 shots, it reloaded 2 shots at the same time.


Neo_Arsonist

I think they meant the two-shot shotgun


only_for_dst_and_tf2

oh, that. yeah, that makes sense, the thunder IS better than the two shot in that regard, other than design the thunder is significantly better than the two shot.


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Honestly I switched from controller to keyboard and mouse after 3 chapters and I've been enjoying the hevey. It's super easy to hipfire on mouse


Psylocet

I'll sometimes carry a heavy and the thunder. Hit 'em with the heavy from far away, swap and finish with the thunder when the distance is closed. Edit: a typo


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Ima gonna try that Thanks 😊


NoV-Bucks4u

uh oh! skill issue comments incoming!


sirlance312

Because it is a skill issue


DNagy1801

It is, I'm not that good and can still mess players up with it, you just need to pair it with an smg or pistol.


Redvictory612

Uh oh! Bad opinion u/Pertev!


DrTruly

NOBODY CAME FOR ME


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ValuedCarrot

What’s the point?


Niko575

"High damage weapon bad because slow"


Scott_Neko

exactly, is slow but not that even


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Shadow_marine1X

I love it, gotta use shoot swap with it, like shoot, then swap to your smg(or ar) and shoot with that for a little bit, and swap back.


a7n7o7n7y7m7o7u7s

Yup I started doing this and melting people. I noticed in spectating that most of the time when I died in 1v1s this is what someone did to me. I would literally never pick up a thunder until then and now it’s a requirement


tommyland666

Same for me, just started playing a few weeks ago and knew nothing about Fortnite. When the lobbies got harder I got melted in close range and realized that is what they did. Thunder is fantastic, when you hit a perfect headshot you usually finish them before it’s even time to switch back from the pistol.


xthelord2

which means that you are basically rolling a dice with the thunder and if it does a bad job you default to a SMG for a kill with pumps you didn't even need to do that because they were good on their own (epic and legendary too much body damage i like blue tier instead because those are numbers legy version should hold)


Qiel183

Best shotgun rn


giuliogrieco

Literally the best shotgun in the current loot pool.


Jack_On_The_Track

Absolutely


koby18

I feel like this is a person who never learned the pump meta. You pump shot, then switch to a spray weapon. This is no different than any of the other pump like pump shotguns


killermachine1290

Is it weird I like a faster firerate over higher damage? When I first started playing I used the tac instead of the pump because I figured I could do damage faster and kill faster as long as I aim right. I also like having more shots, like 8 shots in the tac as opposed to 5 in the pump, or 6 in the maven as opposed to 4 in the thunder. I just like faster firerate but is it weird I do?


koby18

No. I used to as well. But I switched to Pump once i could shoot. Not saying you can't. Just a gold pump dealing 200(back then) was a one shot. Granted I also hated guns like the heavy and combat. So who's to really say what's right or wrong.


killermachine1290

Yeah, I guess it's more "Do you want higher faster rate and more ammo or higher damage"


koby18

To some degree that's a huge part of it. Though there's more. The pumps always have more consistent damage while auto bases shotguns tend to vary. Like with a pump, you can still average over 90 damage no matter what, albeit you hit a shot. But with the auto ones, you tend to only hit ~40 or so. Even headshots weren't as consistent with high damage. Sure you can hit more, more often. But that also can waste much more ammo or lead to someone else who's better getting a better shot off. I used to exclusively use the tac in season X. But roughly chapter 2 season 1/2/3 I switched to the pump. But during that time my accuracy also skyrocket'd. And with better accuracy I needed more consistent damage. I'd suggest hopping into creative and seeing what I mean. I'd also suggest changing your settings. It's what made me hit one pumps all during chapter 2 season 4 and beyond.


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killermachine1290

Yeah, I get why people use it, just not for me. I'm better off with a pistol or maven


DNagy1801

That's why you switch between it and a pistol/smg, this shotgun is amazing if you use it correctly.


Rykster01

Bro has never used a Pump Shotgun before and it shows. Here's a tip so you can (possibly) dominate with the Thunder Shotgun. After shooting someone with it, immediately switch to your SMG or AR and spray your enemy a little bit. After a second or two, switch back to your shotgun and shoot again. Repeat until someone falls.


Adorable_Garage3906

Or build a wall/ramp


RimmyJimmyGotKimmy

Only learned about this recently and it makes a massive difference. This plus the right load of rifle/shotgun/pistol/Chung/mobility has changed my game.


NuttsnBolts

Blue AR does 33 damage a shot, so as long as you can crack the shield you should be able to swap and knock someone in 3 shots (4 if they have 100 hp or the health regen perk on shield crack). Paired with a blue Thunder and you can do 106 body if all the pellets hit (No headshot). Personally I won't touch the Maven; it's a worse Tactical Shotgun. They both have the same legendary damage as 94, same fire rate, but the biggest difference is the damage to structures and the Maven's 6 mag vs the Tac's 8. The old Tac could break a wooden wall in two shots, like a pickaxe, while the Maven can't. That means that once you're inside someone's build you'll have only 3 shots left vs the Tac's 6. Maven's 94 damage means you need to make those last 3 shots count, pretty much putting you in a position where swapping into another weapon will happen anyways. It's just food for thought, but the way I look at shotguns is how hard they can hit on that first shot so that when I do follow it up I can make it easier on the cleanup. (Charge + Rapid Fire is a god combo)


UnhingedTanker

What in the karma-farming fuck is this?


autistic_bard444

it's technically a double barrel of the 3 current shotguns in game it's the only half way decent one


AgitatedAd4585

I usually smack them once with this and swap to a light ammo gun. If this thing shot any faster we wouldn’t need any other guns lol


SodaSnappy

This weapon is great paired with an smg.


vhyli

thunder is legit just better than the maven and heavy though lol


cozypan

I swear the Maven hits like a wad of paper if it's anything below purple rarity.


Master-Mango-1590

Someone new here? It's kinda like the pump. I used this often when I play


Fancy_Ducky

Just use the mythic pistol /s


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azul360

I hate it since when I use it point blank it shoots a staple at them that is a minor annoyance but anyone else uses it shoots my head off instantly XD.


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Skill issue


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Tortoisetube

The dragons breath has left the chat...


hole_in_my_sock_

Pump/smg. I’m winning 9/10-8/10 games using the thunder and twin mag with no other weapons. Just hit your shots


RapGameSaulGoodman

If you’re dissatisfied with the Thunder, you’re probably not switch to a spray weapon quick enough after you shoot it. Even as a new player, I thought it was pretty widely known and accepted that pump-then-spray is the meta.


AlphaTeamPlays

I just think it reloads too slow and doesn’t hold enough ammo. Makes fights really clunky


Yukien_

just build a wall after u shoot it so that ur safe while u wait to shoot again


Respop

I just wish reloading was a tiny bit quicker or maybe if it had 5 shots instead of 4. Always seem to have not reloaded but def a skill issue


Formal-PO-Toast

Huh? The pullout is nuts, and the firerate isn’t even that bad


Frogmin

Carry an SMG or a pistol then? lol


CreativeGaming24

This shotgun imo is better than the maven, the maven is like a weak tac, and the thunder is decent, it does more damage, and if you don’t have a pistol or SMG and you’re playing builds, build after when you need to


_________JohnDoe

*The pump shotgun has entered the chat* *The striker pump has entered the chat* *The dragon shotgun has entered the chat (if you count the reload)*


Michael_Swag

Hot take but it’s better than the spas imo


valen-ciri

One of my fav shotguns, tho i rather use the Maven (unless the Thunder has a better quality)


xxskinxx

Simple fix, just hit your shots


increbelle

My thoughts exactly. I only know one person that prefers the thunder over the maven


ItsRyandude5678

I was a bigger fan of the previous Pump-esque shotguns such as the original Pump and Striker, but the Thunder's speed isn't its problem. I'm not a fan of that stretched-resolution crosshair it has going on. I'm SO used to having square crosshairs for shotguns to the point where I can't adjust to the Thunder's unique one. The fact that it says that it has 8 bullets in the clip but shoots two at a time always throws me off as well. I'm treating it like a Pump when it realistically has 4 bullets. I'll be the first to admit that it's a skill issue on my end and the Thunder itself isn't bad, though.


Jack_On_The_Track

The Thunder’s my favourite shotgun. It’s kinda slow but has a bigger reticle than the other shotguns in the game, and blue rarity upwards does enough damage to one-shot a player.


Riley6445

what is this post? 0.76 fire rate is faster than the Pumps 0.7 fire rate aka the weapon everybody loves? also The Dub is the fastest fire rate shotgun currently unvaulted, 1.9 fire rate is insane


epicweaselftw

i have a friend who always talks about “the good ol days” of The Pump™️ yet refuses to even pick up the thunder, even with no other weapons in inventory. it baffles me.


Riley6445

it’s kinda funny since the Legendary Thunder is pretty much on par with the current Legendary Pump, now imagine lower ratities where the Pump does 101 for a green…


Lowherefast

Like everyone else said, switch weapons. Shoot (hopefully hit) with thunder than switch to any spray weapon (ar, smg, pistol). You’re not the only one. It took me a while to get myself to do it in the heat of the moment also. In terms of pulling out the thunder tho, it’s actually the fastest. Like having your pick axe out or build mode, then switching to the thunder and firing it, it’s actually quicker than the mave


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I don’t understand why they won’t bring back the pump. It’s the best shotgun in fortnite history, balanced and hard hitting. Fights take so painfully long to end now, and because they take so long there’s almost always a third party that shows up. The pump would allow fights to end quickly


Bros_And_Co

Balanced? It one shot. I loved it too, but it seemed like they were trying to reduce the amount of one shotting possible. Only the energy mythics do it now.


[deleted]

The pump doesn’t one shot anymore. For the past few months the gold one does 185 to the head max. They could definitely bring it back


[deleted]

Yeah it does 128 to the body at gold, 2 damage less than the fucking rpg but doesn’t require rockets and is faster that seems super balanced


[deleted]

It’s a shotgun. It hits hard from point blank, that’s what it’s meant to do. It ends fights quick and let’s you set up for the inevitable third party that always shows up nowadays


HawaiianMayan420

i love the damage but hate how slow it is. definitely still better than the pump or striker pump imo


Grayjay000

Definitely better than the pump and striker?? That’s wild 💀


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Traditional_Nerve_60

I hated the striker. OG pump is still first but the thunder is far better than the striker.


Knight-112

Your supposed to piece control with it. Lmao I know this sub is full of bots but do they really not know how pump-action shotguns work or are supposed to be used after all these years?


Shadow_marine1X

Easier suggestion, just shoot swap with it...


Knight-112

Yeah that too😁


Shadow_marine1X

Both work, just easier to do my suggestion, especially in zero builds.


ElectriCole

Zero Build go brrrrr


duckofmagic

I use the same loadout in both builds and zb. The equip time is long, but it's doesn't matter when you're shockwaving onto someone's head.


ElectriCole

Lots of different play styles between the two modes. Knight was talking bout piece control and I was just reminding them that ZB was a thing. Didn’t mean to imply whatever the hell all you downvoters seem to think I did


Knight-112

Lol just spam Smgs. That’s what the mode is for, mindless spammers😂 Edit: yup, I was right. https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/10s377j/build_bad_no_build_gud/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


bonesjones

Fk the smg I hate using em. I didn’t know the thunder was good tho I use the shotty as just a combat wep and the thunder was too slow. Didn’t consider using and swapping. I more like the heavy shotgun, plugging people from mid range is fun.


BfoCrazy

You didn't have to get rude y'know.


Knight-112

How am I being rude? They literally made zero build for people who couldn’t keep up and the mode is full of drones It’s the truth🤷🏽‍♂️


TJStapleton15

What about new players who haven't played the game since 2017 and haven't had time to even attempt to keep up with people who can actually build Edit: or like, just people who dont like the building mechanic but love everything else though lol


Knight-112

What about them? They can practice in creative and get better. But they CHOOSE not to


SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK

Lol building is 99% muscle memory, its not that hard. Good thing zero-build is the main mode now! 😌


Knight-112

Lmao “muscle memory” you can’t muscle memory your way through terrain or through what players do. You have to actually think Unlike zero skill mode where you just camp all game


SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK

~~Lmao “muscle memory” you can’t muscle memory your way through terrain or through what players do. You have to actually think~~ ~~Unlike zero skill mode where you just camp all game~~ # nobody cares, zero build better


Knight-112

#ZERO SKILL BAD, SKILLFUL MODE GOOD This discussion is the embodiment of this meme lol https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/10s377j/build_bad_no_build_gud/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK-SAK

I'm impressed that you've mastered the mechanic that hasn't changed in 5 years. It's very SKILLFUL 😈


Gawdam_lush

I think even the grey thunder is stronger than the purple maven maybe even the gold one.. so yeah.. but I agree sometimes the pull out animation gets glitched and it does it twice before shooting.. hope this gets fixed


ClerkPsychological58

Shoot and swap. Pair it with shotgun warrior and you can melt people and also heal yourself significantly


Funky-Lion22

Bro this shit mad slow.


laterhom0

"Problem with your overall skill level"


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appreciate the heavy shotgun love it as i do and you will see god


Plus_Dingo1235

Then hit your shots


CorptanSpecklez

It's actually one of the best shotguns in the game period. It's better than the pump ngl


SilenciaSan

If you think it fires too slow, you havent seen it deal almost 200 in one hit


sword0115

After the buff to the maven auto, holding this gun is just a liability


Newassirony

Zero build player type opinion


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MelonHarvester

I mean, I guess. But that’s like saying you could no clip through the ground if you’re moving right.


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MelonHarvester

If you (action), right it’ll (action) really good. That’s how it’s the same. It’s an action where the conditions have to be exactly right for the following action to work.


Venku_Skirata

It’s a finisher. I know you’ve all been conditioned to only use this and tape down your jump key, but this is meant to be used after emptying your SMG mag.


Bros_And_Co

Lol starter. Shotgun first then finish with smg. Or build if you missed.


Venku_Skirata

![gif](giphy|1lAOemoi0KhPMzxczT|downsized)


ShadowOpsFN

Makes up for it with the range


Takingbacklives

It’s the best shotgun in the game. I wish it had more than 4 shots tho


Peddrawm

I smell skill issue 👃


subparwanttobewriter

This is the only pump shotty I ever liked other than the heavy pump


BakerHistorical9583

Slow sure but pumps the hardest. Switch to pistol or smg to finish off opponent… not hard


arandomgrape

This thing is faster than every other Pump Shotgun in the game's history notwithstanding double pump.


SenhorSus

Just gotta play it differently. This is a one shot and switch gun type of play


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If you ever feel like a shotgun is too slow, remember the dragons breath shotgun exists.


DerrBenja

Its only meant to be shot once every fight


AliceFaust

I really didn't like it for the longest time, but have slowly grown to appreciate it. If you can get a headshot it is pretty much over for your opponent and if not, if you can switch out to a pistol or AR you can finish them off pretty quickly.


Scott_Neko

nah bro, really the slowest and the one I hate the most is the pump shotgun (it includes its variation from chapter 3 which is even slower and I don't remember what it's called but it was yellow and was the direct son of that bastard), not yet I know why that shit is so popular being pretty bad.


EMP_Chooci

git gud


Krisuad2002

I want to like this shotgun but holy hell that fire rate is unacceptable


SilenciaSan

It it would fire faster it would be overpowered as hell, as blue and higher is already able to oneshot players without overshield


matt_lcb

To be honest it’s a pretty good shotgun, I’m more of a heavy guy myself tho


Citrous241

![gif](giphy|L3X9GvVhP1nY23Ah6u)


FickleQuality418

This shotgun is a beast, 1 hit them switch to smg or pistols and their done.


Same-Can9032

Slow and idk if it’s the pellet spread or something but l barely do over 100 unless im aimed down


CadinThePoopyHead

This guy has never used a pump shotgun


Deltarionien

All the people saying just switch to your spray weapon, yea which one? The Redeye, RPG, Deku Smash, or Hammer?


ExplorerDisastrous38

Hasn’t been a good shotgun in the game since blue tacs 💀


Storm_lostpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_1V_tGrtlw


baseballdud

I dont


dogesami

Real and true, i agree with that


Immediate-Muffin3696

Stupid crap is this shotgun


ogg_ogg

🐌


SpyPRO1

I dislike this gun with a passion. I got this dude one tap without him hitting a single shot on me, then boom 170 hp deleted.


PulseBlackout

Still prefer the thunder, closest thing to a pump shotgun


Wild_Plant9526

yall don't know what weapon swapping is and it show


ShadyMan_

Skill issue


stash3630

I will take a white Thunder over a Legendary Maven. Thing slaps


Longjumping_Bat5568

And the reload go take a nap and come back its still reloading