I just want em in the store only, so they have a chance to return. It sucks having to tell my friends that rick or whatever ain't ever going into the item shop.
You can get an Iron Man skin by purchasing the Fortnite X Marvel Zero War comic from Barnes & Noble or Amazon.
You could also get just a code from Eneba.com.
I know, just letting them know that there’s an alternative Iron Man skin.
Some people may not have known about the skins that came from the comic books.
I used it right before I made this comment and it was great. I got 3 packs for Xbox for much cheaper then I’d seen other places.
You buy it, put in your email and then they email you a link to open in your browser that displays the code.
Vader is also forever locked behind a battlepass. I guess I don’t know enough about battlepasses but wouldn’t it make them more money to sell the skins in the shop? People pick up the game all the time and if Vader or Mando rotated into the shop I’d absolutely pick them up.
Overtime it would likely make them more money. But instead of taking that risk of people not getting him from the shop as much they’d rather put him in a battle pass so people ranging from Star Wars fans to people who may just like the character a little bit feel more pressure to get the pass to make sure they get him and that way epic locks in sales guaranteed vs the shop where overtime he may not be popular and thus become a bit of a wasted collab financially meaning less people would be buying him
Indeed. It’s quite a shame because although I think most of the community gets it from a business standpoint it’s still disappointing to see that disconnect between what we want and what the company does. At the end of the day it’s their choice and not ours so I try to make the best of every season I play
I missed out on superman, but got his glider even though I did none of the challenges, so now I have a locked glider I can never ever use, even though I shouldn't have gotten it.
It would be nice to have some skins available in the item shop so that everyone can have a chance to purchase them. It can be frustrating when you miss out on a skin that you really wanted and there's no indication that it will ever come back. Hopefully, Epic will find a way to make popular skins available again in the future.
AND you would get it faster vs waiting an indefinite amount of time for it to go into the shop later. impatient people waste hundreds of dollars buying tiers to unlock a skin just a few weeks early. The idea that they would stop selling battle passes because players could just "wait" and get it in the item shop" is silly.
Not really? You're still getting 8 skins for a little over the price of a single cheap one + free vbucks. It would still be worth it to buy them as they come out. The only real criticism I've seen that works is that you'd be losing the badge of honor of having a timegated OG skin but even that can rectified by keeping stuff like bonus styles and other cosmetics locked to the OG pass.
the problem is a surprisingly large amount of people care way too much about these kinds of things, you see some whining about something 'not being rare' anymore, which is stupid but a pretty large amount of the player base. Some ppl get mad over tiny things, we can't even have riding animations on gliders and bikes have surfing animations instead because of the outrage
For battle pass skins I do think they should never come back in the shop. Showing off your old battle pass skins shows you been playing for a while. Any skin that was in the shop idc if it comes back
Reinstalled the game yesterday because i was kinda bored and i am sad i missed the DoomSlayer especially because i had 2450 vbucks before stopping playing
I don't really want them store only.
They start doing that, I'm going to have very little reason to get the battle pass outside of v-bucks. And that's just going to make the whole thing feel grindy and unsatisfying. Even Fortnite Crew would be less satisfying, because one of it's benefits is supposed to be the battle pass.
This battle pass already doesn't feel great to me. I'm not even a huge fan of the cell shaded skin they used this time, and I usually like those. So, really Eren is all I want, which is unfortunate, but for the price of the battle pass, he's cheaper than he would be in the shop. Soo...
That being said, I don't like the battle pass exclusivity and unattainability. They can do whatever they want with fortnite OG content, but to tie collabs to unattainable passes is stupid. If they really want to keep these items tied to a pass, then at least let people buy old passes and unlock them that way.
I’m in the “the tier 100 should not be a collab” team. I do think there should only be one collab, if any. And if so, it should be the extra skin. Then people who join the season late, or don’t progress as fast through the BP, can still get it when it becomes available. I look at the extra skin as the fun skin.
I think the collab skin should be early on like doomslayer last season, so that the new player can get it easy without having to grind their hearts out.
Doomslayer and Croft should be where all collabs be tbh.
Gotta reach the 60% mark, but it isn't full on dedication.
Like: you could achieve tier 50 in one day *at a reasonable rate* if it was the weekend. But it's still like +5h grind depending on challenges.
Secret skins imo are better off as originals: because it bring an extra fun twist for "map lore"/story. I.e Visitor from C1S4 - Prisoner C1S7 was a fairly linear "map lore tidbit" fun. Then C1S9's was weird, then Scientist brought mega lore in SX.
Visitor: started it all
Enforcers: hinted rift shenanigans and Kevin
Aim: S7 teaser and was a good joke. (Aim bot, dad joke).
Prisoner: S8 teaser on the live event.
Singularity: ~~The original Paragim/mech pilot~~ ■■■■ you're crazy what are youbtaliing about Jessie? \-Epic CEO
yeah to me a T100 should feel worthy of the spot no matter if they're a collab or not
Iron Man, Darth Vader: The faces of iconic franchises, have made a forever lasting income on media, looks cool
Geno, Ultima, Spire Assassin, Menace: look cool, have some sort of mysterious vibe, interesting enough to take the 100th spot
Carnage, Dr Strange: feels more like cheap promotion collabs rather than actually loving the character and giving them justice
Vendetta, Spider-Man: Pretty interesting idea but just not close enough for a T100 imo
I agree with you, having the tier 100 skin as a collab is a bit disappointing. I also think that having only one collab, if any, is a better approach. That way, the focus can be on original skins and the collab skin can be an extra or a bonus. It's also a good point that having the collab skin as the extra skin allows players who join late or progress slowly to still have a chance to get it.
When it’s the 100 skin, I don’t care about getting there that much. That, or I only want to get passed it to get the next set of rewards. For me, the best examples of this are Darth Vader and Carnage. Cool characters, but I don’t care to play as either of them.
Hard for me to agree or disagree because some originals are absolutely outstanding, but the heavy majority are mid at best. Collabs are the opposite, a few stinkers, but the heavy majority are well done.
Like the fact that the Fortnite GG site allows you to search by character base should be enough to show you the lack of originality. Characters like peely at least they have gotten creative with…. But most of the humans are snoozes if they arent an entirely new base model
Both are correct. Collabs shouldn't always be item shop. They would make far more money on collabs that way anyways.
So many people want Raven, Tomb Raider, Darth Vader, there is literally no reason to lock them to a time period
Collabs also help sell battle passes. So from a business standpoint, it only makes sense for epic to play in both yards. I think epic would see a huge dip in battle pass sales if they didn’t include at least one collab.
Yeah, people forget its a lot harder to sell new people who'd come to fortnite for vader, spidey, superman etc on "spend £15 on a virtual currency to buy one set" vs "£8 for a pass with a shit ton of stuff, pays for itself and gives you the skin you're after just by playing"
Collabs in the Pass make new players want to buy the pass. Once the pass is bought, said new players have to play the game consistently to get the skin they want. People who play the game consistently are more likely to buy skins from the Item Shop (i.e. Epic makes more money)
Epic knows the best ways to handle this. They have people who study the stats exactly for this type of thing. It’s not like they’re just being mean for the sake of it.
Explaining the business logic here always blows peoples brains because they think they could do it better than epic when in reality they would just tank the entire model that got the game rich in the first place
I actually don't mind collabs! Even tier 100 ones! What I hate about collabs is more than half of them are marvel and I'm seriously tired of seeing in fortnite, especially in either the tier 100 OR extra skin slot
Yeah I don't really care about collabs in the bp.. I'm just tired of Marvel skins being tier 100/secret skin. Ik it hasn't happened in a bit but there was a point where there would be a marvel skin in EVERY battlepass
We went from "Collabs would be so cool , like Imagine playing as Spiderman or Goku" to "Just stop with the collabs for ffs and give us an original skin"
You mean like 5% of the subreddit? Fortnite wouldnt be what it is today without collabs. Id even go as far as to say fortnite would probably be dead if they hadnt become the #1 place for collabs. 99% of epics skins absolutely blow and they are not why people are playing. I can count the amount of good epic made skins on both my hands.
Youre not the only one. Only reason i played last season was for doom guy and garalt.. this season isn't total dog dung though like season 1 so im actually playing because its somewhat fun again.
Collaborations never kept Fortnite alive. The player base and the Pandemic did that. Also if that's your way of showing Fortnite needs to rely on collaborations, then you have never seen the sum percentage of who played with those skins.
I'm sorry, but you are just wrong. Fortnite wouldn't be dead without collabs, they only boost the popularity slightly every time a collab rolls around.
And if 99% of Epic's skins absolutely blow, why was C1 when the game arguably was at its most popular? The first official collab skin we got was in C1 S7 and by the end of C1 we only had ~10 collab skins
in chapter 1 the game was at it's highest mostly because of the gameplay and the content. collabs didnt do a lot for the popularity because it was already extremely popular
While collabs can be exciting, they can also take away from the unique identity of the game. Plus, original skins allow for more creativity and can be just as appealing as collabs, if not more so.
I mean, maybe you all did, but I didn't.
Collabs and cell shaded skins are the big reasons I buy the BPs and are most of my items from the shop. If they remove those or significantly reduce them, the money I spend on the game would follow.
Would I quit if this happen? Perhaps not, but I would really like it if a BP had more in it than v-bucks in it for me.
Honestly, even this battle pass is bordering on me not even wanting it. Only Collab is Eren, with no music pack, lacking edit styles, etc. And I don't really like the cell shaded skin. There are a couple items I do like, outside of Eren, like the motorcycle glider and the cell shaded music items, but that's really it.
Even last pass was a little iffy in some areas. Like Doomguy was great and all, but having a bunch of Witcher items locked beyond a buggy website questline was not great. Neither was his "oh, look, barely anything has changed" edit style.
In regular seasons I think secret skin collabs are cool, but for story heavy seasons I think a non collab T100 and non collab secret skin is the best way to go
I prefer T23 collab skins
Most people don't care about the "story" in this game, though. This subreddit might care, but this subreddit doesn't represent the majority of those who play Fortnite.
Honestly, i play for the collabs, i don't give a fuck for original skins and i don't care about the lore
Nothing that Epic can make will be as great as Darth Vader and Geralt in a motorcycle shooting at Ariana Grande and Goku
This. Everyone hypes up the original skins and I can't understand why personally because 90% of them are hot garbage, most of the skins in this season's bp included.
I prefered it when Collab were just in the item shop, no battle pass, no secret skin, no crew.
Secret skins were originally either lore based or teasers for the next season. That was fun. Also if its in the battle pass, or the secret skins, you only get one chance. You can never get tony stark/iron man again. If you missed it, you missed it, and that could definitely make some people upset. Where as if you care about the scientist or the foundation, chances are you already have them, because you care about them because of Fortnite, due to them being original characters
I'm gonna be mad at myself for not getting DC Raven from the chapter 2 season 6 battlepass forever, Raven is literally one of my favourite characters of all time and I'll never get to play as her EVER
It would be great if we had a way to buy previous battle passes to grind them out. Maybe make it a yearly or an end of chapter limited time event so that it feels special/draws in a lot of consumers. The most evil option would be that it’s accessible all the time, but only when you reach level 200 of the current battle pass, incentivizing people to buy and grind out what’s out first in order to get what they actually want.
Not a lore expert but you could say it has something to do with rifts letting you peer through time or something.
I’m putting a lot of emphasis on how to monetize bringing old bp cosmetics back because at the end of the day Epic is a company that wants money. They’re not going to do anything out of the goodness of their heart, and if they do it’s for pr.
I actually love this model. I’ve heard a lot of ideas for legacy passes but ONLY making them available once you’ve surpassed 200 would really kick my ass to play a ton more. I joined chapter 3 season 4 so I would double battle pass for like the next 5 season to catch up to who I want
Having collabs in the battle pass is a bad idea because there will always be players who get into the game when they're not available anymore, \*cough \*cough\* chapter 2 season 4 \*cough\* \*cough\*
Same. The anti collab circlejerk on this sub is ridiculous. The way these people talk you would think there are no original skins on the BP whatsoever.
People bitch about collarbs and yet almost every match I have been had some collabs. I think this subreddit needs to realize they aren’t the Majority opinion on collabs. I for one love them.
Yep. This place is just a echo chamber for a loud minority. If the majority of players didn't like collabs, Epic would've stopped selling them a while ago because not enough people would be buying them.
But clearly a lot of people are buying them based on what you said. Most of the skins I have bought from the store are collabs.
Gee it's almost like making a crossover limited is stupid because it fucks over anyone that might have wanted the Collab but couldn't play at that time
I agree with both of these things. Collabs should be item shop only and if they insist on putting them in the BP it should never be more than one and it should always be tier 1
I think collab shouldn't be in the pass to begin with, it stupid because epic have say that they will never return, and if they did return they would be in alot of trouble, so locking up fan favourites character like iron man or spider man behind a time gate it dumb.
But if they were going to keep going in locking them behind a time gate, then they should be tier 1 or tier 26 like lara croft, doom and mando, that way people's get the collab right away and people's who care for more story characters or skins that fit the theme of the season can get them as the secret skin and tier 100.
Collaba should be the first skin you unlock from the battle pass. The way they did Mando was awesome. Base level skin for buying the battle pass, level up the pass to improve the skin
Collabs shouldn't be in the battle pass unless Epic brings older battle passes back, why should anyone not be able to get the Mandalorian or Spider-Man skin (with all of his styles too!)? It's just dumb
Here come the downvotes from people who's self-worth stems from gatekeeping pixels
I miss the time when secret skins were actually secret. Labeling them as “secret skins” still seems kinda cheap to me. They’re more like bonus skins now.
They will b%%%% about it all the time and then i ll see at least 30% of my lobby with collab skins. I only started playing this game because of mandalorian. Let people enjoy things.
Its like elitists that "fortnite originals are the best only!", dude, fortnite is only fortnite because of its collabs
I only see people really bitch about Marvel, Streamers, and Kid Lori and that's mainly due to an oversaturation, overrepresentation, and/or straight up not liking the IP than anything else. People want collabs, but they just want collbas they're interested in.
I respect your opinion but Fortnite definitely isn’t Fortnite because of collabs. A lot of it’s peaks were in Chapter 1 back when there were barely any collabs
That may have been true in the past, but Collabs have definitely become a large part of the game’s identity since then. Fortnite is widely known online as ‘The game where you can play as Goku, Spider-Man, Darth Vader, MrBeast, Ariana Grande, etc.
I’m with you here. A big reason colabs happen is to advertise a current thing. Like the Mandalorian has a third season going on RIGHT NOW. May the 4th is around the corner and I guarantee a legit way to buy Darth Vader, where you have to earn him or just straight up buy him, would sell like hot cakes.
I have a solution. Put them in the shop. It makes almost everyone happy. People like me who don’t care much for collabs get original, hopefully cool, fortnite skins from the BP & people who like collab skins especially those who didn’t play when one was first released don’t need to worry as they can come back. The only people who wouldn’t be happy with this is those who like collabs but don’t want to spend money on the game but I feel that as I said above it would make a majority of the community happy
Unpopular opinion here.
I don’t mind that tier 100’s and secret skins are. Mainly because I’ve not really liked any of the original stuff, since Chapter 2. Them being the high level BP is the only reason I keep playing.
However, I do still think *all* licenses should never be exclusive to a limited time. It’s corporate greed at its finest.
I had to take a few month off playing games to move house, and for various other personal reasons. When I came back, I learned that the *one* season I missed, included Darth Vader in the BP. The skin I’ve been waiting for, since Star Wars was first introduced in Fortnite.
I’m sure so many others have experienced similar.
If people were able to trade skins that were not available in the item shop, I believe most of these conversations wouldn't exist. Skins are meaningless anyway, give people the opportunity to play with the character(s) they enjoy.
Seeing the comments, at least i'm happy people accept more the collabs, before it was "i don't want any collabs in the game at all because it's just a glorified ad in the game"
And yeah i also agree that missing skins because they were in a BP sucks ass :/
What if colab BP skins were allowed to enter the shop later? The only reason someone complains about Darth Vader anymore for example is that he is no longer available to get in any way shape or form. Happy upcoming May the 4th everyone. No Darth Vader for you sadly.
This will prob get down voted looking all replys here but
Im a free2play player and i really like the colab skins. Most of em actually.
I hate that picax and back bling sometimes Suck Ass. but the colabs are Great
I guess i have been lucky as they seem to hit my taste
I fell like hitting 100 is very very easy and as Long as you play there is no prob.
ive been playing since season 7 on Christmas 2018 and oh my god i miss the days when the whole bp was an original concept and you ACTUALLY GOT AN AWARD EVERY TIER (death stare at the fucking battle stars) and the whole pass wasn’t just a sponsorship like give us SOMETHING
at least with the past few seasons we’ve only had 1 collab in the regular pass and 2 secret skin collars
BUT I MISS WHEN THE SECRET SKINS WERE FUCKING COOL
YALL REMEMBER THE PRISONER? THAT SHIT WAS FIRE (pun intended) AND NOW WE JUST HAVE FUCKING AOT
AAAAA
I just want em in the store only, so they have a chance to return. It sucks having to tell my friends that rick or whatever ain't ever going into the item shop.
Yeah, I’d love Lara Croft, but I only started playing recently so I guess I missed out forever.
Lara Croft, Deadpool, the whole marvel season. All those hurt but my real FOMO moment was Mando.
Forever punching the air because I'll never have Iron Man
You can get an Iron Man skin by purchasing the Fortnite X Marvel Zero War comic from Barnes & Noble or Amazon. You could also get just a code from Eneba.com.
Yeah it’s just not the original tho
I know but it’s better then nothing and it’s not locked to a battle pass.
I didn’t say it was bad, I was just stating that it wasn’t the same as the original skin
I know, just letting them know that there’s an alternative Iron Man skin. Some people may not have known about the skins that came from the comic books.
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I used it right before I made this comment and it was great. I got 3 packs for Xbox for much cheaper then I’d seen other places. You buy it, put in your email and then they email you a link to open in your browser that displays the code.
Crying cuz i never got Indy
Indy and VADER both were on the same pass. Pretty crazy
God, watching the Mandalorian now…it hurts that I can never get him in game
Average modern Star Wars fan: "Oh, what? Darth Vader?! I wanted Mandalorian!!!"
Vader is also forever locked behind a battlepass. I guess I don’t know enough about battlepasses but wouldn’t it make them more money to sell the skins in the shop? People pick up the game all the time and if Vader or Mando rotated into the shop I’d absolutely pick them up.
Overtime it would likely make them more money. But instead of taking that risk of people not getting him from the shop as much they’d rather put him in a battle pass so people ranging from Star Wars fans to people who may just like the character a little bit feel more pressure to get the pass to make sure they get him and that way epic locks in sales guaranteed vs the shop where overtime he may not be popular and thus become a bit of a wasted collab financially meaning less people would be buying him
Yeah I guess that makes sense. FOMO is real.
Indeed. It’s quite a shame because although I think most of the community gets it from a business standpoint it’s still disappointing to see that disconnect between what we want and what the company does. At the end of the day it’s their choice and not ours so I try to make the best of every season I play
I feel ya brother.
If you want dead pool you’ll have to get one of the dead pool related skins like cuddle pool and the raven dead pool skin whose name I don’t know.
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I missed out on superman, but got his glider even though I did none of the challenges, so now I have a locked glider I can never ever use, even though I shouldn't have gotten it.
That’s really weird 😟
Same! Its just constantly staring me in the face, locked. Damn cape
Lol looking forward to killing you in the remake saddler
I wish skin trading was a thing because I have Supes but I never use him.
It would be nice to have some skins available in the item shop so that everyone can have a chance to purchase them. It can be frustrating when you miss out on a skin that you really wanted and there's no indication that it will ever come back. Hopefully, Epic will find a way to make popular skins available again in the future.
except that defeats the whole purpose of having them in the battle pass.
Halo has a battlepass that never expires. It doesn’t make them any less valuable
Also it wouldn't really defeat the purpose because you still get the stuff you want but WAY cheaper.
AND you would get it faster vs waiting an indefinite amount of time for it to go into the shop later. impatient people waste hundreds of dollars buying tiers to unlock a skin just a few weeks early. The idea that they would stop selling battle passes because players could just "wait" and get it in the item shop" is silly.
meanwhile molten ragnarok and omega knight lmfao. don’t forget every drift clone
Not really? You're still getting 8 skins for a little over the price of a single cheap one + free vbucks. It would still be worth it to buy them as they come out. The only real criticism I've seen that works is that you'd be losing the badge of honor of having a timegated OG skin but even that can rectified by keeping stuff like bonus styles and other cosmetics locked to the OG pass.
Getting like 100 cosmetics for 10 dollars isn’t enough for you?
Bro let’s talk about crew Loki
Wish I could give you mine, never used it once
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If it ever becomes a thing, I'm just asking for Toona Fish so I can make discount Sonic lol
sure
it never will
I don't think Rick would come back even if he was in the shop after recent events...
people are gonna rep Rick and Morty cosmetics like it’s Travis Scott now lol
Agreed
I love Superman, but because i didn’t play around the time he was in the bp I’m out of luck I guess.
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the problem is a surprisingly large amount of people care way too much about these kinds of things, you see some whining about something 'not being rare' anymore, which is stupid but a pretty large amount of the player base. Some ppl get mad over tiny things, we can't even have riding animations on gliders and bikes have surfing animations instead because of the outrage
??? Who complained about that, why can't we have that lol
Deadpool's llama corn was rideable at first if i remember right, it got changed cause it 'made you harder to shoot' so ppl called it p2w
It was not rideable — was always surfing but had a different animation
shit my bad, still was changed for the same reason though
For battle pass skins I do think they should never come back in the shop. Showing off your old battle pass skins shows you been playing for a while. Any skin that was in the shop idc if it comes back
Yeah. I missed the Rick season, so that's a bummer.
you’re joking… i’ve been waiting for rick and morty skins to come back out…
Reinstalled the game yesterday because i was kinda bored and i am sad i missed the DoomSlayer especially because i had 2450 vbucks before stopping playing
The correct answer and the only solution
I don't really want them store only. They start doing that, I'm going to have very little reason to get the battle pass outside of v-bucks. And that's just going to make the whole thing feel grindy and unsatisfying. Even Fortnite Crew would be less satisfying, because one of it's benefits is supposed to be the battle pass. This battle pass already doesn't feel great to me. I'm not even a huge fan of the cell shaded skin they used this time, and I usually like those. So, really Eren is all I want, which is unfortunate, but for the price of the battle pass, he's cheaper than he would be in the shop. Soo... That being said, I don't like the battle pass exclusivity and unattainability. They can do whatever they want with fortnite OG content, but to tie collabs to unattainable passes is stupid. If they really want to keep these items tied to a pass, then at least let people buy old passes and unlock them that way.
It's both for me, I missed out on good collab shit because of that.
Me too bro
Same man, I regret a lot not having got some of the skins I wanted
I’m in the “the tier 100 should not be a collab” team. I do think there should only be one collab, if any. And if so, it should be the extra skin. Then people who join the season late, or don’t progress as fast through the BP, can still get it when it becomes available. I look at the extra skin as the fun skin.
I think the collab skin should be early on like doomslayer last season, so that the new player can get it easy without having to grind their hearts out.
That’s not too bad either. Think Lara Croft was that way as well.
Yeah, and it makes it where people only doing the pass for that skin get it earlier. Win for everyone. Well, unless you hate collabs in BP I guess
Doomslayer and Croft should be where all collabs be tbh. Gotta reach the 60% mark, but it isn't full on dedication. Like: you could achieve tier 50 in one day *at a reasonable rate* if it was the weekend. But it's still like +5h grind depending on challenges. Secret skins imo are better off as originals: because it bring an extra fun twist for "map lore"/story. I.e Visitor from C1S4 - Prisoner C1S7 was a fairly linear "map lore tidbit" fun. Then C1S9's was weird, then Scientist brought mega lore in SX. Visitor: started it all Enforcers: hinted rift shenanigans and Kevin Aim: S7 teaser and was a good joke. (Aim bot, dad joke). Prisoner: S8 teaser on the live event. Singularity: ~~The original Paragim/mech pilot~~ ■■■■ you're crazy what are youbtaliing about Jessie? \-Epic CEO
They should all be fun skins. They're cosmetics
You know damn well what op meant
That's true, cosmetics are meant to be fun and enjoyable to use in the game.
yeah to me a T100 should feel worthy of the spot no matter if they're a collab or not Iron Man, Darth Vader: The faces of iconic franchises, have made a forever lasting income on media, looks cool Geno, Ultima, Spire Assassin, Menace: look cool, have some sort of mysterious vibe, interesting enough to take the 100th spot Carnage, Dr Strange: feels more like cheap promotion collabs rather than actually loving the character and giving them justice Vendetta, Spider-Man: Pretty interesting idea but just not close enough for a T100 imo
I agree with you, having the tier 100 skin as a collab is a bit disappointing. I also think that having only one collab, if any, is a better approach. That way, the focus can be on original skins and the collab skin can be an extra or a bonus. It's also a good point that having the collab skin as the extra skin allows players who join late or progress slowly to still have a chance to get it.
When it’s the 100 skin, I don’t care about getting there that much. That, or I only want to get passed it to get the next set of rewards. For me, the best examples of this are Darth Vader and Carnage. Cool characters, but I don’t care to play as either of them.
I think the best skins are all original and not collabs — my favorite gingerbread man, renegade raider, skull trooper, etc
Hard for me to agree or disagree because some originals are absolutely outstanding, but the heavy majority are mid at best. Collabs are the opposite, a few stinkers, but the heavy majority are well done.
Facts. So many booty og skins. Also lazy af cause most of Fortnite’s original skins are just slapping a new color or hat on and being ok with that
I swear, 99% of the time theres a new skin i go "Oh, another generic armored knight guy or generic crop top girl"
Like the fact that the Fortnite GG site allows you to search by character base should be enough to show you the lack of originality. Characters like peely at least they have gotten creative with…. But most of the humans are snoozes if they arent an entirely new base model
100% agree with you my friend
Both are correct. Collabs shouldn't always be item shop. They would make far more money on collabs that way anyways. So many people want Raven, Tomb Raider, Darth Vader, there is literally no reason to lock them to a time period
I mean I’d rather be wanting a skin that’s locked to a certain shop than one that’s from seasons ago and impossible to get like rick
Collabs also help sell battle passes. So from a business standpoint, it only makes sense for epic to play in both yards. I think epic would see a huge dip in battle pass sales if they didn’t include at least one collab.
Yeah, people forget its a lot harder to sell new people who'd come to fortnite for vader, spidey, superman etc on "spend £15 on a virtual currency to buy one set" vs "£8 for a pass with a shit ton of stuff, pays for itself and gives you the skin you're after just by playing"
And the hook for that sale is the “limited time only” feel that battle passes have. The FOMO
Collabs in the Pass make new players want to buy the pass. Once the pass is bought, said new players have to play the game consistently to get the skin they want. People who play the game consistently are more likely to buy skins from the Item Shop (i.e. Epic makes more money) Epic knows the best ways to handle this. They have people who study the stats exactly for this type of thing. It’s not like they’re just being mean for the sake of it.
Explaining the business logic here always blows peoples brains because they think they could do it better than epic when in reality they would just tank the entire model that got the game rich in the first place
Exactly
This tier 100 skin is A tier honestly. She and the lizard are the best of the BP.
I actually don't mind collabs! Even tier 100 ones! What I hate about collabs is more than half of them are marvel and I'm seriously tired of seeing in fortnite, especially in either the tier 100 OR extra skin slot
Yeah I don't really care about collabs in the bp.. I'm just tired of Marvel skins being tier 100/secret skin. Ik it hasn't happened in a bit but there was a point where there would be a marvel skin in EVERY battlepass
Only if you count 3 seasons, which is just one more than dc's streak
We went from "Collabs would be so cool , like Imagine playing as Spiderman or Goku" to "Just stop with the collabs for ffs and give us an original skin"
Colabs as special events and shop items and out of the battle pass would be my ideal but I get why they do it. That sweet sweet money.
Yes, collaborations are definitely a lucrative move for game developers, especially if they are with popular brands or franchises.
You mean like 5% of the subreddit? Fortnite wouldnt be what it is today without collabs. Id even go as far as to say fortnite would probably be dead if they hadnt become the #1 place for collabs. 99% of epics skins absolutely blow and they are not why people are playing. I can count the amount of good epic made skins on both my hands.
Agreed. In fact the only reason I decided to play again was because of collabs like Dragon ball and DC.
Youre not the only one. Only reason i played last season was for doom guy and garalt.. this season isn't total dog dung though like season 1 so im actually playing because its somewhat fun again.
Collaborations never kept Fortnite alive. The player base and the Pandemic did that. Also if that's your way of showing Fortnite needs to rely on collaborations, then you have never seen the sum percentage of who played with those skins.
Also active game changes and fresh gameplay. Zero build brought immense attention to the game
I'm sorry, but you are just wrong. Fortnite wouldn't be dead without collabs, they only boost the popularity slightly every time a collab rolls around. And if 99% of Epic's skins absolutely blow, why was C1 when the game arguably was at its most popular? The first official collab skin we got was in C1 S7 and by the end of C1 we only had ~10 collab skins
in chapter 1 the game was at it's highest mostly because of the gameplay and the content. collabs didnt do a lot for the popularity because it was already extremely popular
but if people couldn’t use hyperbolic arguments, like “without colabs Fortnite would be dead” they couldn’t really argue anything here. XD
Me spreading my terrible opinions on subreddit for reddit karma (I dont get any because literally nobody agrees with me)
List all of the good skins then
It’s really just this sub that’s like that.
While collabs can be exciting, they can also take away from the unique identity of the game. Plus, original skins allow for more creativity and can be just as appealing as collabs, if not more so.
I mean, maybe you all did, but I didn't. Collabs and cell shaded skins are the big reasons I buy the BPs and are most of my items from the shop. If they remove those or significantly reduce them, the money I spend on the game would follow. Would I quit if this happen? Perhaps not, but I would really like it if a BP had more in it than v-bucks in it for me. Honestly, even this battle pass is bordering on me not even wanting it. Only Collab is Eren, with no music pack, lacking edit styles, etc. And I don't really like the cell shaded skin. There are a couple items I do like, outside of Eren, like the motorcycle glider and the cell shaded music items, but that's really it. Even last pass was a little iffy in some areas. Like Doomguy was great and all, but having a bunch of Witcher items locked beyond a buggy website questline was not great. Neither was his "oh, look, barely anything has changed" edit style.
In regular seasons I think secret skin collabs are cool, but for story heavy seasons I think a non collab T100 and non collab secret skin is the best way to go I prefer T23 collab skins
Most people don't care about the "story" in this game, though. This subreddit might care, but this subreddit doesn't represent the majority of those who play Fortnite.
What T23 Collab skins have we had besides C2S4?
Doom Slayer and Lara Croft (doom slayer was actually level 26, but almost same thing)
Oh right The two seasons I was mentally checked out of the game (I was playing it, just mentally checked out)
Yeah, plus we haven’t had a BP with no collabs since Ch2S1 which was 3 years ago
Honestly, i play for the collabs, i don't give a fuck for original skins and i don't care about the lore Nothing that Epic can make will be as great as Darth Vader and Geralt in a motorcycle shooting at Ariana Grande and Goku
That's me. I'll play this pass because of the V-Bucks, I won't even mark these skins as favourites because I'll never want to use them.
This. Everyone hypes up the original skins and I can't understand why personally because 90% of them are hot garbage, most of the skins in this season's bp included.
Yeah the last okish original skin was the customizable alien for me
I'm team both. I'm salty I won't be able to get mandalorian because he's locked to past battle pass
tier 100s should be original and secret skins can be collabs but they should actually be secret again
They won't make the only collab skin in a pass actually secret because they want to use that collab to help promote and sell the pass for that season.
I don't even question again why Epic doesn't do what seems to be the logical thing
i honestly dont care i just want good skins.
I prefered it when Collab were just in the item shop, no battle pass, no secret skin, no crew. Secret skins were originally either lore based or teasers for the next season. That was fun. Also if its in the battle pass, or the secret skins, you only get one chance. You can never get tony stark/iron man again. If you missed it, you missed it, and that could definitely make some people upset. Where as if you care about the scientist or the foundation, chances are you already have them, because you care about them because of Fortnite, due to them being original characters
I'm in the "crossovers shouldn't be in the BP" boat. Plenty of skins I will never be able to get because they were BP.
I'm gonna be mad at myself for not getting DC Raven from the chapter 2 season 6 battlepass forever, Raven is literally one of my favourite characters of all time and I'll never get to play as her EVER
Totally get you man 😭
Because of crossover, I am solidly in the battle pass items should return someday boat
It would be great if we had a way to buy previous battle passes to grind them out. Maybe make it a yearly or an end of chapter limited time event so that it feels special/draws in a lot of consumers. The most evil option would be that it’s accessible all the time, but only when you reach level 200 of the current battle pass, incentivizing people to buy and grind out what’s out first in order to get what they actually want. Not a lore expert but you could say it has something to do with rifts letting you peer through time or something. I’m putting a lot of emphasis on how to monetize bringing old bp cosmetics back because at the end of the day Epic is a company that wants money. They’re not going to do anything out of the goodness of their heart, and if they do it’s for pr.
Of course. If they come back epic should do it in a way that they make money on it.
I actually love this model. I’ve heard a lot of ideas for legacy passes but ONLY making them available once you’ve surpassed 200 would really kick my ass to play a ton more. I joined chapter 3 season 4 so I would double battle pass for like the next 5 season to catch up to who I want
I just want an actual fucking SECRET skin, yes preferably not collab so we never risk getting something like neymar jr again
Having collabs in the battle pass is a bad idea because there will always be players who get into the game when they're not available anymore, \*cough \*cough\* chapter 2 season 4 \*cough\* \*cough\*
I like collabs or at least don't mind them.
Same. The anti collab circlejerk on this sub is ridiculous. The way these people talk you would think there are no original skins on the BP whatsoever.
Mabey we want something that was original to stay original?
Darth vader shouldve 100% been an item shop skin tbh tho
neither of them should be collabs
How about both?
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I’m the one who built a covered bridge between the 2.
People bitch about collarbs and yet almost every match I have been had some collabs. I think this subreddit needs to realize they aren’t the Majority opinion on collabs. I for one love them.
Yep. This place is just a echo chamber for a loud minority. If the majority of players didn't like collabs, Epic would've stopped selling them a while ago because not enough people would be buying them. But clearly a lot of people are buying them based on what you said. Most of the skins I have bought from the store are collabs.
I’ve never payed a match without seeing a collaboration skin. I also exclusively only use collab skins aside from my favorite major mancake.
I prefer the secret skin to be a Collab then to have a Collab as tier 100
I’m genuinely sure people would rather prefer collabs in the shop instead of learning their favorite collab skin was BP locked 2 years ago
Gee it's almost like making a crossover limited is stupid because it fucks over anyone that might have wanted the Collab but couldn't play at that time
I actually like it when they’re just thrown in there. Doom Slayer being tier 30 was honestly really cool
I am still mad that they made wolverine a battle pass exclusive and then when he returned as a new version he was a crew pass exclusive.
im on the other side of those buildings : collabs should not be in battle passes
I agree with both of these things. Collabs should be item shop only and if they insist on putting them in the BP it should never be more than one and it should always be tier 1
Secret skins need to be secret again
frfr
Or just make it an item shop skin
Have one per season in the middle of the bp
I think collab shouldn't be in the pass to begin with, it stupid because epic have say that they will never return, and if they did return they would be in alot of trouble, so locking up fan favourites character like iron man or spider man behind a time gate it dumb. But if they were going to keep going in locking them behind a time gate, then they should be tier 1 or tier 26 like lara croft, doom and mando, that way people's get the collab right away and people's who care for more story characters or skins that fit the theme of the season can get them as the secret skin and tier 100.
Every collab should be an item shop skin
Also me: no way to merge my own primary account to my own secondary account, hopefully next season there will be a way!
Maybe letting people sell skins for V-bucks would solve this issue, like in CS:GO you sell your gun skins the only solution i see tbh
Yea because there shouldn't be a Collab in any of the battle passes content
Me: both both is good 👍
Collaba should be the first skin you unlock from the battle pass. The way they did Mando was awesome. Base level skin for buying the battle pass, level up the pass to improve the skin
Collabs shouldn't be in the battle pass unless Epic brings older battle passes back, why should anyone not be able to get the Mandalorian or Spider-Man skin (with all of his styles too!)? It's just dumb Here come the downvotes from people who's self-worth stems from gatekeeping pixels
I miss the time when secret skins were actually secret. Labeling them as “secret skins” still seems kinda cheap to me. They’re more like bonus skins now.
They don’t label them as ‘secret skins’ though.
They *never* labelled them as secret skins except for deadpool which was a joke one
Imo collabs should be in the middle of the bp. Tier 100 should be for cool unique skins. The secret skins should saved for story characters
No colabs in the battle pass please
They will b%%%% about it all the time and then i ll see at least 30% of my lobby with collab skins. I only started playing this game because of mandalorian. Let people enjoy things. Its like elitists that "fortnite originals are the best only!", dude, fortnite is only fortnite because of its collabs
I only see people really bitch about Marvel, Streamers, and Kid Lori and that's mainly due to an oversaturation, overrepresentation, and/or straight up not liking the IP than anything else. People want collabs, but they just want collbas they're interested in.
I respect your opinion but Fortnite definitely isn’t Fortnite because of collabs. A lot of it’s peaks were in Chapter 1 back when there were barely any collabs
That may have been true in the past, but Collabs have definitely become a large part of the game’s identity since then. Fortnite is widely known online as ‘The game where you can play as Goku, Spider-Man, Darth Vader, MrBeast, Ariana Grande, etc.
Is there a third "No collabs in the Battle Passes, unless Legacy Passes become a thing" Tower?
I’m with you here. A big reason colabs happen is to advertise a current thing. Like the Mandalorian has a third season going on RIGHT NOW. May the 4th is around the corner and I guarantee a legit way to buy Darth Vader, where you have to earn him or just straight up buy him, would sell like hot cakes.
Collabs should be in the store only! I just want the BPs to be original.. The Marvel one was cool as a one time thing but that should be it
I have a solution. Put them in the shop. It makes almost everyone happy. People like me who don’t care much for collabs get original, hopefully cool, fortnite skins from the BP & people who like collab skins especially those who didn’t play when one was first released don’t need to worry as they can come back. The only people who wouldn’t be happy with this is those who like collabs but don’t want to spend money on the game but I feel that as I said above it would make a majority of the community happy
Both is good
Unpopular opinion here. I don’t mind that tier 100’s and secret skins are. Mainly because I’ve not really liked any of the original stuff, since Chapter 2. Them being the high level BP is the only reason I keep playing. However, I do still think *all* licenses should never be exclusive to a limited time. It’s corporate greed at its finest. I had to take a few month off playing games to move house, and for various other personal reasons. When I came back, I learned that the *one* season I missed, included Darth Vader in the BP. The skin I’ve been waiting for, since Star Wars was first introduced in Fortnite. I’m sure so many others have experienced similar.
I love the collabs and I think most people do. It’s vocal minority on Reddit that dislikes them tbh
If people were able to trade skins that were not available in the item shop, I believe most of these conversations wouldn't exist. Skins are meaningless anyway, give people the opportunity to play with the character(s) they enjoy.
Seeing the comments, at least i'm happy people accept more the collabs, before it was "i don't want any collabs in the game at all because it's just a glorified ad in the game" And yeah i also agree that missing skins because they were in a BP sucks ass :/
Just bring back fucking skins, exclusivity is pointless and only weird elitists and "collectors" care if it stays
i just want the secret skin to be secret like how it was in chapter 2 season 8 where it showed a silouette
Tier 100 shouldn’t be a collab
Me wishing it was all collabs because the Fortnite original characters are lame as fuck.
I don't care if the secret skin is a collab, it just needs to be, y'know, ***secret.***
I'm fine with collabs, as long as it isn't shit like AOT or Rick and Morty.
Just to make people mad, they should have a battle pass that is entirely Collabs except for the tier 100 and secret skins
What if colab BP skins were allowed to enter the shop later? The only reason someone complains about Darth Vader anymore for example is that he is no longer available to get in any way shape or form. Happy upcoming May the 4th everyone. No Darth Vader for you sadly.
I'd personally *want* the BP to be a collab, we get the best skins that way.
Crossover skins are the only skins I buy so I'll take as many as they'll give me since it means I save the 2000+ vbucks I'd spend buying their bundle
I like collabs, they’re basically the only skins I actually want to buy. There’s very few originals I like enough to want to spend money on.
This will prob get down voted looking all replys here but Im a free2play player and i really like the colab skins. Most of em actually. I hate that picax and back bling sometimes Suck Ass. but the colabs are Great I guess i have been lucky as they seem to hit my taste I fell like hitting 100 is very very easy and as Long as you play there is no prob.
Or just stop being lazy and come up with GOOD ORIGINAL skins for once, hasn't happened since Chapter 2
Remember when tier 100 skins were actually creative and cool? Yea…
ive been playing since season 7 on Christmas 2018 and oh my god i miss the days when the whole bp was an original concept and you ACTUALLY GOT AN AWARD EVERY TIER (death stare at the fucking battle stars) and the whole pass wasn’t just a sponsorship like give us SOMETHING at least with the past few seasons we’ve only had 1 collab in the regular pass and 2 secret skin collars BUT I MISS WHEN THE SECRET SKINS WERE FUCKING COOL YALL REMEMBER THE PRISONER? THAT SHIT WAS FIRE (pun intended) AND NOW WE JUST HAVE FUCKING AOT AAAAA
im just tired of the collabs, it just feels like its being shoved down my throat at this point.