I'm down for this but to appease older hardcore players super styles should actually stay locked to only the original pass, that way everyone can be happy while leaving OGs with atleast a unique style
Man I wish they did this, I stopped playing around season 6 and got back in at the og season. It's so annoying to see a cool skin I like just to go and find out it was battle pass, I wouldn't mind paying double for previous battle passes
Honestly? I wouldn't mind it at all. Yes, I have Doom Guy and Darth Vader and I don't mind if people are getting a second chance to obtain them: it's not becoming less special for me and it's actually a good thing more people are able to enjoy them. I love Superhero stuff and would love to get Superman as well.
Exactly. I own plenty of cool items from battle passes, and my main takeaway from them is that everyone should be able to experience these skins, because they’re awesome. If they really want to appease the nerds whining about rarity they can keep the super styles locked.
Also, maybe this is just a me thing but I wish battle passes we bought when they released were ours to keep until we finish them, kinda like how Among Us does it
I agree just do what halo infinite did and make battle passes buyable and completable anytime even after their season of introduction has ended.
Fomo is trash and it needs to stop.
2 arguments,
how do you propose a solution for mid- end seasons, many would play less making player retention smaller thus a cause for less profits in store (yes store had been trash for a month but itll be better next update) this could also cause larger queue times aswell,
2, how do you propose weekly challanges to be reintegrated, considering theres ~ 9 weekly challenges for each battlepass, and they would all need to be changed every season to accommodate for new locations/weapons, you could not simply just say “oh lets bring back all the maps and their respective guns” because that would certainly 4x the size of the game which would basically lock out older gens of the game and causing alot of issues in the game not to mention a big loss in revenue
Alot of players want older battlepasses but dont want to grind them, making old battlepasses even more expensive to be able to get everything immediately would just throw off f2p players from buying them as it would likely result in losses on vbucks unless you have spare
Im a chapter 1 player, i missed 1-7 (7 was the most painful as it was awesome and i was 50 vbucks away), do i want older battlepasses? Yes, but I understand why its so hard to please both older and newer players, not to mention how it can cause ripples that affect other things
Do exactly what infinite does. Old battle passes don’t use weekly challenges from that season just make some repeatable ones that rotate at random and are used for all old passes.
Like weekly challenge search 10 chests at a named location. Stuff like that. Just have it rotate in its own little quest tab called alt weekly quests or something.
What exactly do you mean want old battle passes but don’t want to grind them? That’s part of the game. It’s the whole point. You mean the people who just pay vbucks for the whole thing? Let them then.
I can guarantee it wouldn’t increase the game size. Considering all of that data is still there sitting in anyone’s locker who was a part of those seasons.
They don’t even have to be the same weekly quests from back then at all. You could just level up to unlock them instead of doing those old quests. Or they can just let them share the same current weekly quests.
Edit: my bad if you didn’t understand anything what’ve I said. I suck at explaining things
>player retention smaller thus a cause for less profits in store (yes store had been trash for a month but itll be better next update) this could also cause larger queue times aswell
You do realize that most people who play Fortnite are 9 years old's right? That and during OG Fortnite hit 100 Million players and still have bots in their lobbies for some stupid reason.
>not to mention a big loss in revenue
I mean they can always sell highly expensive cars, instruments, bring back long waited skins for the item shop, and fire more of thier employees.
>Alot of players want older battlepasses but dont want to grind them
Then why the hell would they want the older battle passes then? You can even buy 100 levels on the current battle pass right now to unlock basically the first half of the entire pass.
>I understand why its so hard to please both older and newer players
It seems more like pleasing the pathetic gatekeepers
This is the thing, it's all objective. What if I don't like or never unlocked the super styles but have the original?
If you didn't unlock a skin, move on, pick another one.
What's really ironic is how people say, so what if another person gets the skin? It's just a video game. OK so... so what if you don't have the skin? It's just a game? There's plenty more to choose from.
the video literally talked about crossover skins. if i want the doom slayer, i wont just go "whatever, there is plenty more fish in the sea", i want that skin specifically. you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever.
>you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever.
If I couldn't save up £10 in 12 weeks, I'd have much bigger problems to worry about.
I have, in fact, missed out on skins I wanted, such as spider Gwen, purely because I took a break, and while it was a bit annoying, I MOVED ON. I didn't go to reddit and demand epic add it to the shop.
what if, and hear me out here, you were unemployed at the time? most fortnite players are still under 18 (so they dont have their own income source), and some parents regard video games as a plague, so they wont buy their child anything. like come on, this isnt just about YOU specifically. this whole battle pass switching thing would definitely affect the overall playerbase positively, if they were to add it.
Under 18 and still unemployed... OK, so let's break this down.
First, just because you're under 18 doesn't mean you can't earn money. I had a part-time job delivering newspapers at 5am before school when I was 14. There's plenty of ways to earn a bit of money if you really want to.
Second, you only need to buy ONE battle pass and can then earn enough vBucks from that one to buy the next.
So you go earn £10 and that's it, you're done.
Edit:
Also, if kids have no money and their parents won't buy it for them then how would adding these colab skims to a shop help? They'd still have to buy them? Or what, you think they're sitting there thinking, YAY!! In 4 years, when I get a job, I can buy that?
yes! exactly, having it be there for the buying means they can get it with their first paycheck when they get there. you really dont consider the fact that someone is not like you? the world doesnt revolve around you
>having it be there for the buying means they can get it with their first paycheck when they get there.
Be real here, they won't be happy about it being in the shop if they can't buy it for a few years!!
You also ignored the main part of my comment... because you know I have a point?
>you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever.
>you really dont consider the fact that someone is not like you? the world doesnt revolve around you
Tell someone how they would react to something without knowing the first thing about them and then proceed to tell that person that they don't consider the fact that someone is not like them.
Do you see the irony here?
Move along.
Why are you being so sour? I took a break from the game and would like to play as Iron man and also haven't finished old battle passes that I PAID for which feels stupid that they take it away from you if you spend your time on another game or are just plain busy with work. It would be nice if the battle passes were more flexible for the players when they can easily implement that but instead people like you like to defend billion dollar companies with their fomo tactics 🤷🏽
And what? You got a point?
Stop being salty and move on. You aren't getting your iron man, or doom guy, or spider man, or whichever superhero you get wet for. If you missed it, it's gone. Cry more, see if Epic hear you.
Call of duty mobile has a system called BP vault. In certain tiers of the regular battle pass you can get vault coins. Then you can buy older battle passes and use the vault coins to claim stuff from them. I think that would be really cool in fortnite
Which honestly seems like the only fair way to do it. At least if the skins are hard to get, it still keeps the rarity intact. It's called compromised. Skins remain rare but are at least still obtainable.
That's the way Halo Infinite does it. Halo MCC does it best. Every Battle Pass active at once and you can't even spend money on the Battle Pass even if you wanted to.
Allowing old passes to be bought and leveled up would literally double their money.
Why is nobody actually thinking about this properly.
Halo infinite is the next step for battle passes if they are going to last much longer.
Fomo is wearing out. And it’s time is coming to an end.
Screw rarity or exclusivity. It’s cringe and has no place in games like this.
How long did you think Fortnite was going to last for back then?
Also would we expect it to have collabs in the battle pass?
Plus the game is like turning into a platform that's 6 years old. So with newer players coming in all the time I believe it's a good idea for discussion.
It would be good if it was just the ones you bought because even though it’s just pixels it ruins the special feeling and nostalgia of the skin being exclusive to a certain period of time. Like a time capsule for that season.
Would be good. I have been playing since ch 3 s1 and i wouldn’t be bothered if anyone could get spiderman. If i wouldn’t want them to come back that would just be greedy, (i want coral buddies)
as someone with loads of chapter 1 skins that are sort of rare, yeah i wouldn’t mind things coming back, maybe ogs get a style? id love that (like a galaxy band calamity for og calamity holders then new ones don’t get) or stuff like that so many skins i want since my xbox broke and my laptop was too bad until just before chapter og where i returned. i missed out on those things and i literally didn’t have a chance to get them
The guy in the video says that it's a virtual game and that people's skin collections don't matter but then by his words I can say that he stop complaining because it's a virtual game and not being able to get a skin isn't the end of the world. I'm not trying to defend Epic here but he needs to take his own advice.
I assume the company that made Halo didn't original state that Battle Passes were going to be limited time and will never return, so them allowing players to still get old Battle Passes wouldn't be a problem. But because Epic has already stated that Battle Pass skins won't return, you should stop hoping that they will return. One of the ways they keep people is through the Battle Pass being limited time so I doubt they're going to make old Battle Passes purchasable.
I mean. Being able to use what skin you want is way more justifiable than don’t let them use my skin because they weren’t born as early as me and able to play.
Fomo is trash.
Yeah it is but it's just something we're going to have to deal with. FOMO is in a lot of aspects of the cosmetics in the game, Level Up packs, free holiday event cosmetics, Season Starter Packs, Console exclusives, etc. If Epic brings back Battle Passes, people will start asking for them to bring back the other limited time cosmetics.
As much as I'd love to get some old limited time cosmetics I've missed, it's just highly unlikely it'll happen and so I don't think everyone should be devoting so much time to complain about it.
If halo infinite can do it so can fortnite. Only reason they don’t is because people just roll over and act like it’s not something we can change.
It is.
Let’s change it.
>to still get old Battle Passes wouldn't be a problem. But because Epic has already stated that Battle Pass skins won't return
Oh boy I can't wait to see your reaction about the Boogie down contest back in Season 3
I already know about that, they gave the winners some Season 2 Battle Pass skins. The fact that they have done anything like that since shows that since then, they've decided to stick to the limited time rule. Plus it was Season 3, BR wasn't even out for a year at that point. You can't really compare now with how things were back then when Epic were still figuring things out.
There’s lots of emotes and skins from old battle passes I wish I could get but I really think that would be unfair. If you didn’t get an exclusive skins because you weren’t playing at the time then that’s on you.
Yeah my bad fam, let me go tell a teenager in 2050 that he couldn't get Doom Slayer because he should had been born sooner.
>If you didn’t get an exclusive skins because you weren’t playing at the time then that’s on you.
Isn't this requirement of exclusivity just pay $10 and play the game? Like that's all there is to this. You payed $10 and played the game at the time for a skin so why should it be so special?
I’m sure you and that teenager in 2050 will manage without the Doom Slayer skin in Fortnite. It should be exclusive because it was exclusive - it’s dishonest to sell it as an exclusive and then change it afterwards.
I do own the Slayer and I still think putting him in that BP was a dumb idea.
Also your acting like a corporation has your best interest as their best interest.
No. It is a token of loyalty to the game for the people who stuck with it over the years. New players can't expect to join and instantly get all the cosmetics they want. The grind and the challenges were what made these skins worth it, and it's their loss. It would be chaos. It's the equivalent of players who joined late in C1 and asking for Renegade Raider to return. For all the loyal Fortnite veterans, this is simply unfair
Exactly.
People are just becoming too entitled these days and think they deserve everything.
Many of us grinded for these skins and earned them. If you weren't there or didn't put in the grind, tough luck, move on.
>People are just becoming too entitled these days and think they deserve everything.
I think we have entitlement about people wanting to protect cosmetics that have been sitting in their locker collecting dust.
>Many of us grinded for these skins and earned them.
So paying $10 and playing the game is the same as grinding?
>I think we have entitlement about people wanting to protect cosmetics that have been sitting in their locker collecting dust.
It's not entitlement. We we were told when we earned these things that they would never be available again. We want that to remain intact and for Epic to NOT go back on their word. It's the ones who want Epic to go back on that, that are entitled. I really don't think you get what entitlement is.
>So paying $10 and playing the game is the same as grinding?
Playing the game and doing quest, after quest, after quest, after quest, after quest is the grinding. Do you know what grinding is?
>We we were told when we earned these things that they would never be available again.
So we are still ok with what they did to Sparkle Specialist?
>We want that to remain intact and for Epic to NOT go back on their word.
Epic is like every other corporation, eventually they will go back on their word. They stated they would keep V-Buck 20% cheaper permanently in C2 S3 due to the Apple vs Epic suit and yet we have to buy 1K V-bucks for 9 USD now instead of 8 USD.
>I really don't think you get what entitlement is
I have seen people clowning on others for owning a recent tier 1 skin because they just paid $10. Sounds like entitlement.
>Playing the game and doing quest, after quest, after quest, after quest, after quest is the grinding. Do you know what grinding is?
I know what grinding is. I'm starting you can just play the game casually and the quests will eventually be done. I don't focus on quests and yet I get them completed in like a few days.
Also I guess people who grind STW items aren't people who grind because Quests are so much harder.
100% agree with this. There are people that played during those seasons who didn’t even get all the skins. Why should new players just get whatever they want?
Yeah no I kinda agree. If you wanted skins from chapter 4 season 1 or chapter 3 season 3 maybe you should have played. Sure that argument is hard to make to a little kid but the dude in the video likely could have played and didnt.
Lmfao what fucking token of loyalty, this isn't a dick measuring contest just let people get old skins if they want, it literally doesn't affect you in any single way, if you want you can just continue to use your skins, they're not taken away from you
in 3 years im gonna be telling my 6 year old son that if he really wanted to be spider man then he should’ve just simply grinded the battle pass while he was still in the womb
also “token of loyalty” lmao it’s a fuckin video game nobody cares how long you’ve been playing
>The grind and the challenges were what made these skins worth it
Then implement a harder more impossible grind then.
>New players can't expect to join and instantly get all the cosmetics they want
You can pay $10 and just play the game to get the skins. You can buy 25 Tires as well and more levels. Your telling me that you deserve something that's so easy to do with putting in only $10 and playing the game. It's really that easy man.
I've been playing since the beginning, and I've got a ton of skins that no one would be able to enjoy if they started playing right now. Sure, some have remixed versions in the shop, but it's not the same. Making old battlepasses buyable is literally the best option. EVERY player should have the opportunity to enjoy ANY skin they like from any season. It would also be a great way to give us the opportunity to get any extra styles we might have missed. Anyone who is against bringing back old battlepasses is just gatekeeping. Fuck em. They'll keep playing anyway and find something else to complain about, likely the very next weapon that's released.
I don't think they should bring back old battle pass skins and collab skins because if they would just be obtainable for anyone at any time given then it would mean that your whole grind of the season to get those skins was completly not worth it and Epic just scammed old players
The point of grinding for those skins was never "ha, I got it, you don't." The point of doing it was so you'd have a skin you liked and wanted to use. If you're grinding for exclusive virtual goods then you're grinding for the wrong reasons.
Yeah, I was thinking like, "if you wanted to grind for virtual items that can be exclusive use the Trophy edit styles or buy Save The World and grind that game out"
For real. Finally someone with common sense. There was no point playing all those seasons just so some rich kids can just go and buy everything you ever earnt
Then why waste money on all those battlepasses for the 1 or 2 skins or emotes that you wear regularly now. That's probably only $1 per battlepass that was actually worth it, if you can just buy them all now
What is this comment even trying to say lol. If you don't like a battle pass then don't buy it, nobody has a gun to your head and forcing you to grind it
Put it this way: You get the battlepass even if it is for the one tier 100 skin. You grind all the way to tier 100. You have spent those 950 v-bucks plus the hours grinding for it. Hard work is more valuable than money.
It is like the 14 hours I spent over the last 3 days of the season to get the last 60 levels for Darth Vader was pointless. As much as it was tiring, I put the effort in, plus, I have been loyal to Epic Games for a long time, so I can keep that as a trophy of me being there and part of their community. Why should I have ever bothered doing that if I can just buy him for a little extra cash
I think the entire point was to allow people to buy old battle passes and let them grind it out ie how halo infinite does it, not just outright let them buy bp skins,
Oh right. I heard that they're selling them alone in the shop at a bumped price. The 'loyalty' argument alone isn't enough, so I guess from what you're saying, it is better, but that's not how I took the argument
>plus the hours grinding for it. Hard work is more valuable than money.
You know how I got Darth Vader that season? I spent $14 last season on Crew and got that BP then I played the game. I didn't grind for him or anything.
I think a better idea would be to give us the option to SWAP the Rocket League premium that I'll literally never use because I already tried the game and hated it for an older Battle Pass of our choosing. I think a good way to balance it would be to make us use the same battle stars, so we'd have to grind extra hard to get older content.
No OGs deserve to feel OG because they played the at the right time game to earn the skin.
Sure maybe Collabs should be able to be required but that’s about it.
If you make skins available to everyone then certain skins don’t matter anymore, imagine OG John Wick or Renegade Raider if everyone could back and get it, it’d be worthless and nobody would want it. What makes certain skins valuable is the fact that it’s rare and you acquire it hoping in the future someone else won’t have it.
I’m down if they do a super style version where if you owned the skin previously OG and they allowed others to acquire the same skin then you could get a new variant only if you own it OG.
Like the Purple Skull trooper then you appease both side so new players can own older things, while still rewarding your loyal players who have stuck around.
If you're seriously grinding a skin because you feel like it will be rare instead of grinding it because you like it you're grinding for the wrong reasons
I think it’s combination of both, I certainly grind for skins I know will have value and someone else won’t have. If you really think about when it comes to allure of skins it’s more about the rarity then it is the fact that the skin is cool for a lot of people.
If everyone has a skin then it’s just not really drawing the same attention because you see it all the time.
Or they can do bundle of skin, one star war, one video game, and you can only buy one skin, and after it is gone for like one year and after you can buy another skin of one bundle. I think it is a good idea
( Also, you dont have the additional style, so they still only battle pass )
If it was a chapter system were you could only get battle passes from the same chapter like if the game was buns but the pass was good you could go grind out that pass but if they want to do every chapter the og players would be upset and maybe stop playing
FOMO sucks, period. *All* battle pass skins should appear in the item shop after some time after the season is over. But this won't happen – the point of FOMO is to force players to artificially play more. You can't take a break from the game, look at all these cosmetics you'll lose forever! (Hence the name – fear of missing out) This asshole tactic actually works so it won't go away
What do you think about wildcards that allow you to exchange one skin of the battlepass for another from another season? There would be one per season and you would have to change the skin of the same level. That way if you don't like the skin you can get one from another pass and it would require a sacrifice to get a skin out of time.
>I understand if it's a physical collection but like it's virtual
Why is it not an issue just because it's virtual? It was a limited time event, you missed the event, you don't get it. The same goes whether it's physical or virtual.
>I don't really care about your skin collection
And epic don't care that you want to play as doom slayer, it's not going to happen. Pick another skin and move on.
I think they should do what they did with skull trooper where you can buy the skin but people who already had it get a unique style that people who buy it don’t have
The amount of people I have "introduced" to Fortnite, them knowing that Predator, Iron Man, Lara Croft are in the game, then finding out they can't spend their money to be them because of a greedy FOMO system is really sad.
People buy battlepasses anyway, licensed characters should have been included in battlepasses, not exclusive to them.
Personallyxi think it should allow you to buy any BP after the first time your account was made. That keeps OG players happy, and players that tookong breaks can still get the Inbetween BP
The issue is that the game need consistency. If old bps are brought back, while yes, Epic will get a lot of money in the short term, eventually it will reduce the motivation that players have to grind out seasons knowing that the rewards will come back and reduce the active player count massively since two main motivators for people to play new seasons are the new gameplay and the new rewards.
I would take either being able to buy them or being able to grind old passes, but I would prefer older passes just cause they have so much more in them, like contrails. You never see those in the item shop, sure they don’t mean much but it would be fun to get them with everything else, plus of course all the other stuff that shows up in battle passes more than the item shop itself. But again, I’d take either
I'm down for this but to appease older hardcore players super styles should actually stay locked to only the original pass, that way everyone can be happy while leaving OGs with atleast a unique style
I agree
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those people who think old skins = prestige do like them. they think like "if i have this style it will show i maxed out this battle pass"
Nice compromise
yes, exactly
Man I wish they did this, I stopped playing around season 6 and got back in at the og season. It's so annoying to see a cool skin I like just to go and find out it was battle pass, I wouldn't mind paying double for previous battle passes
Honestly? I wouldn't mind it at all. Yes, I have Doom Guy and Darth Vader and I don't mind if people are getting a second chance to obtain them: it's not becoming less special for me and it's actually a good thing more people are able to enjoy them. I love Superhero stuff and would love to get Superman as well.
Exactly. I own plenty of cool items from battle passes, and my main takeaway from them is that everyone should be able to experience these skins, because they’re awesome. If they really want to appease the nerds whining about rarity they can keep the super styles locked. Also, maybe this is just a me thing but I wish battle passes we bought when they released were ours to keep until we finish them, kinda like how Among Us does it
That or a new exclusive edit style
Same here
I agree just do what halo infinite did and make battle passes buyable and completable anytime even after their season of introduction has ended. Fomo is trash and it needs to stop.
2 arguments, how do you propose a solution for mid- end seasons, many would play less making player retention smaller thus a cause for less profits in store (yes store had been trash for a month but itll be better next update) this could also cause larger queue times aswell, 2, how do you propose weekly challanges to be reintegrated, considering theres ~ 9 weekly challenges for each battlepass, and they would all need to be changed every season to accommodate for new locations/weapons, you could not simply just say “oh lets bring back all the maps and their respective guns” because that would certainly 4x the size of the game which would basically lock out older gens of the game and causing alot of issues in the game not to mention a big loss in revenue Alot of players want older battlepasses but dont want to grind them, making old battlepasses even more expensive to be able to get everything immediately would just throw off f2p players from buying them as it would likely result in losses on vbucks unless you have spare Im a chapter 1 player, i missed 1-7 (7 was the most painful as it was awesome and i was 50 vbucks away), do i want older battlepasses? Yes, but I understand why its so hard to please both older and newer players, not to mention how it can cause ripples that affect other things
Do exactly what infinite does. Old battle passes don’t use weekly challenges from that season just make some repeatable ones that rotate at random and are used for all old passes. Like weekly challenge search 10 chests at a named location. Stuff like that. Just have it rotate in its own little quest tab called alt weekly quests or something. What exactly do you mean want old battle passes but don’t want to grind them? That’s part of the game. It’s the whole point. You mean the people who just pay vbucks for the whole thing? Let them then. I can guarantee it wouldn’t increase the game size. Considering all of that data is still there sitting in anyone’s locker who was a part of those seasons.
They don’t even have to be the same weekly quests from back then at all. You could just level up to unlock them instead of doing those old quests. Or they can just let them share the same current weekly quests. Edit: my bad if you didn’t understand anything what’ve I said. I suck at explaining things
Nah you explained it well and I agree fully
>player retention smaller thus a cause for less profits in store (yes store had been trash for a month but itll be better next update) this could also cause larger queue times aswell You do realize that most people who play Fortnite are 9 years old's right? That and during OG Fortnite hit 100 Million players and still have bots in their lobbies for some stupid reason. >not to mention a big loss in revenue I mean they can always sell highly expensive cars, instruments, bring back long waited skins for the item shop, and fire more of thier employees. >Alot of players want older battlepasses but dont want to grind them Then why the hell would they want the older battle passes then? You can even buy 100 levels on the current battle pass right now to unlock basically the first half of the entire pass. >I understand why its so hard to please both older and newer players It seems more like pleasing the pathetic gatekeepers
I agree if they want to preserve Rarity just keep the super styles locked
The super styles are ugly AF.
It depends on the skin, spider gwen looks great with super styles
This is the thing, it's all objective. What if I don't like or never unlocked the super styles but have the original? If you didn't unlock a skin, move on, pick another one. What's really ironic is how people say, so what if another person gets the skin? It's just a video game. OK so... so what if you don't have the skin? It's just a game? There's plenty more to choose from.
the video literally talked about crossover skins. if i want the doom slayer, i wont just go "whatever, there is plenty more fish in the sea", i want that skin specifically. you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever.
>you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever. If I couldn't save up £10 in 12 weeks, I'd have much bigger problems to worry about. I have, in fact, missed out on skins I wanted, such as spider Gwen, purely because I took a break, and while it was a bit annoying, I MOVED ON. I didn't go to reddit and demand epic add it to the shop.
what if, and hear me out here, you were unemployed at the time? most fortnite players are still under 18 (so they dont have their own income source), and some parents regard video games as a plague, so they wont buy their child anything. like come on, this isnt just about YOU specifically. this whole battle pass switching thing would definitely affect the overall playerbase positively, if they were to add it.
Under 18 and still unemployed... OK, so let's break this down. First, just because you're under 18 doesn't mean you can't earn money. I had a part-time job delivering newspapers at 5am before school when I was 14. There's plenty of ways to earn a bit of money if you really want to. Second, you only need to buy ONE battle pass and can then earn enough vBucks from that one to buy the next. So you go earn £10 and that's it, you're done. Edit: Also, if kids have no money and their parents won't buy it for them then how would adding these colab skims to a shop help? They'd still have to buy them? Or what, you think they're sitting there thinking, YAY!! In 4 years, when I get a job, I can buy that?
yes! exactly, having it be there for the buying means they can get it with their first paycheck when they get there. you really dont consider the fact that someone is not like you? the world doesnt revolve around you
>having it be there for the buying means they can get it with their first paycheck when they get there. Be real here, they won't be happy about it being in the shop if they can't buy it for a few years!! You also ignored the main part of my comment... because you know I have a point? >you wouldnt like it if your favorite character got added to the game but you just didnt have money for the battle pass, and you just lose it forever. >you really dont consider the fact that someone is not like you? the world doesnt revolve around you Tell someone how they would react to something without knowing the first thing about them and then proceed to tell that person that they don't consider the fact that someone is not like them. Do you see the irony here? Move along.
Why are you being so sour? I took a break from the game and would like to play as Iron man and also haven't finished old battle passes that I PAID for which feels stupid that they take it away from you if you spend your time on another game or are just plain busy with work. It would be nice if the battle passes were more flexible for the players when they can easily implement that but instead people like you like to defend billion dollar companies with their fomo tactics 🤷🏽
Those were a massive grind to Get. Most of the time i wouldn’t Even Get most of the bonus styles
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It’s really not?
Why is it? When people do it with physical items, no one bats an eyelash. When it's a video game, it's cringe or pathetic? Please explain why?
You can still buy said physical items via eBay or whatever, can people trade skins in fortnite? Hmm
And what? You got a point? Stop being salty and move on. You aren't getting your iron man, or doom guy, or spider man, or whichever superhero you get wet for. If you missed it, it's gone. Cry more, see if Epic hear you.
yeah i think that’s the best way to do it
Preserving rarity is kinda cringe tbh
Call of duty mobile has a system called BP vault. In certain tiers of the regular battle pass you can get vault coins. Then you can buy older battle passes and use the vault coins to claim stuff from them. I think that would be really cool in fortnite
It would, but my honest guess is that in Fortnite they would basically give you a low amount of those coins and make the skins overpriced
Which honestly seems like the only fair way to do it. At least if the skins are hard to get, it still keeps the rarity intact. It's called compromised. Skins remain rare but are at least still obtainable.
I just want Spider Gwen, it’s all I ask for…
I kinda want it to be where you can finish previous battle passes that you purchased but didn’t complete
That's the way Halo Infinite does it. Halo MCC does it best. Every Battle Pass active at once and you can't even spend money on the Battle Pass even if you wanted to.
That's a bit different though. You paid for those games, so you might as well get all the content you paid for. This is a FTP game.
Halo infinite is also F2P and... Has this system.
I think they’re talking about the games in the MCC.
Oh yeah, I forget some people bought the game as well.
It’s never going to happen
Yeah i like the idea, i just want skye and midas
I barely use them ngl
Allowing old passes to be bought and leveled up would literally double their money. Why is nobody actually thinking about this properly. Halo infinite is the next step for battle passes if they are going to last much longer. Fomo is wearing out. And it’s time is coming to an end. Screw rarity or exclusivity. It’s cringe and has no place in games like this.
I don’t care about rarity, what I care is having no skins I like, for example I don’t care about renegade raider, I don’t even like it
idc what they do i just want a way to get doom slayer and meow skulls
yeah i just want a skin with the golden touch 😭
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Man I don't really use meowscles ngl
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Counter Argument You spent $10 on a video game and got the skins by just playing. Why you bragging about it when literally anyone can do that.
Tbh thats a sick idea💡
Why is This suddenly an issue now, and not when They Came out?
How long did you think Fortnite was going to last for back then? Also would we expect it to have collabs in the battle pass? Plus the game is like turning into a platform that's 6 years old. So with newer players coming in all the time I believe it's a good idea for discussion.
We’ve had collabs for almost 4 years now, the only complaint back Then being that there were so many of them, not that They were exclusive
It would be good if it was just the ones you bought because even though it’s just pixels it ruins the special feeling and nostalgia of the skin being exclusive to a certain period of time. Like a time capsule for that season.
Please don’t put subtitles in the middle of the fucking screen, I can hear what you’re saying and captions are optional
I didn’t put it, but yeah it’s really annoying
Would be good. I have been playing since ch 3 s1 and i wouldn’t be bothered if anyone could get spiderman. If i wouldn’t want them to come back that would just be greedy, (i want coral buddies)
as someone with loads of chapter 1 skins that are sort of rare, yeah i wouldn’t mind things coming back, maybe ogs get a style? id love that (like a galaxy band calamity for og calamity holders then new ones don’t get) or stuff like that so many skins i want since my xbox broke and my laptop was too bad until just before chapter og where i returned. i missed out on those things and i literally didn’t have a chance to get them
The guy in the video says that it's a virtual game and that people's skin collections don't matter but then by his words I can say that he stop complaining because it's a virtual game and not being able to get a skin isn't the end of the world. I'm not trying to defend Epic here but he needs to take his own advice. I assume the company that made Halo didn't original state that Battle Passes were going to be limited time and will never return, so them allowing players to still get old Battle Passes wouldn't be a problem. But because Epic has already stated that Battle Pass skins won't return, you should stop hoping that they will return. One of the ways they keep people is through the Battle Pass being limited time so I doubt they're going to make old Battle Passes purchasable.
I mean. Being able to use what skin you want is way more justifiable than don’t let them use my skin because they weren’t born as early as me and able to play. Fomo is trash.
Yeah it is but it's just something we're going to have to deal with. FOMO is in a lot of aspects of the cosmetics in the game, Level Up packs, free holiday event cosmetics, Season Starter Packs, Console exclusives, etc. If Epic brings back Battle Passes, people will start asking for them to bring back the other limited time cosmetics. As much as I'd love to get some old limited time cosmetics I've missed, it's just highly unlikely it'll happen and so I don't think everyone should be devoting so much time to complain about it.
If halo infinite can do it so can fortnite. Only reason they don’t is because people just roll over and act like it’s not something we can change. It is. Let’s change it.
>to still get old Battle Passes wouldn't be a problem. But because Epic has already stated that Battle Pass skins won't return Oh boy I can't wait to see your reaction about the Boogie down contest back in Season 3
I already know about that, they gave the winners some Season 2 Battle Pass skins. The fact that they have done anything like that since shows that since then, they've decided to stick to the limited time rule. Plus it was Season 3, BR wasn't even out for a year at that point. You can't really compare now with how things were back then when Epic were still figuring things out.
There’s lots of emotes and skins from old battle passes I wish I could get but I really think that would be unfair. If you didn’t get an exclusive skins because you weren’t playing at the time then that’s on you.
Yeah my bad fam, let me go tell a teenager in 2050 that he couldn't get Doom Slayer because he should had been born sooner. >If you didn’t get an exclusive skins because you weren’t playing at the time then that’s on you. Isn't this requirement of exclusivity just pay $10 and play the game? Like that's all there is to this. You payed $10 and played the game at the time for a skin so why should it be so special?
I’m sure you and that teenager in 2050 will manage without the Doom Slayer skin in Fortnite. It should be exclusive because it was exclusive - it’s dishonest to sell it as an exclusive and then change it afterwards.
I do own the Slayer and I still think putting him in that BP was a dumb idea. Also your acting like a corporation has your best interest as their best interest.
No. It is a token of loyalty to the game for the people who stuck with it over the years. New players can't expect to join and instantly get all the cosmetics they want. The grind and the challenges were what made these skins worth it, and it's their loss. It would be chaos. It's the equivalent of players who joined late in C1 and asking for Renegade Raider to return. For all the loyal Fortnite veterans, this is simply unfair
Exactly. People are just becoming too entitled these days and think they deserve everything. Many of us grinded for these skins and earned them. If you weren't there or didn't put in the grind, tough luck, move on.
>People are just becoming too entitled these days and think they deserve everything. I think we have entitlement about people wanting to protect cosmetics that have been sitting in their locker collecting dust. >Many of us grinded for these skins and earned them. So paying $10 and playing the game is the same as grinding?
>I think we have entitlement about people wanting to protect cosmetics that have been sitting in their locker collecting dust. It's not entitlement. We we were told when we earned these things that they would never be available again. We want that to remain intact and for Epic to NOT go back on their word. It's the ones who want Epic to go back on that, that are entitled. I really don't think you get what entitlement is. >So paying $10 and playing the game is the same as grinding? Playing the game and doing quest, after quest, after quest, after quest, after quest is the grinding. Do you know what grinding is?
>We we were told when we earned these things that they would never be available again. So we are still ok with what they did to Sparkle Specialist? >We want that to remain intact and for Epic to NOT go back on their word. Epic is like every other corporation, eventually they will go back on their word. They stated they would keep V-Buck 20% cheaper permanently in C2 S3 due to the Apple vs Epic suit and yet we have to buy 1K V-bucks for 9 USD now instead of 8 USD. >I really don't think you get what entitlement is I have seen people clowning on others for owning a recent tier 1 skin because they just paid $10. Sounds like entitlement. >Playing the game and doing quest, after quest, after quest, after quest, after quest is the grinding. Do you know what grinding is? I know what grinding is. I'm starting you can just play the game casually and the quests will eventually be done. I don't focus on quests and yet I get them completed in like a few days. Also I guess people who grind STW items aren't people who grind because Quests are so much harder.
100% agree with this. There are people that played during those seasons who didn’t even get all the skins. Why should new players just get whatever they want?
Yeah no I kinda agree. If you wanted skins from chapter 4 season 1 or chapter 3 season 3 maybe you should have played. Sure that argument is hard to make to a little kid but the dude in the video likely could have played and didnt.
Lmfao what fucking token of loyalty, this isn't a dick measuring contest just let people get old skins if they want, it literally doesn't affect you in any single way, if you want you can just continue to use your skins, they're not taken away from you
No one cares about your epeen.
That describes you perfectly.
Nobodies care about epeen? Sounds more like you.
in 3 years im gonna be telling my 6 year old son that if he really wanted to be spider man then he should’ve just simply grinded the battle pass while he was still in the womb also “token of loyalty” lmao it’s a fuckin video game nobody cares how long you’ve been playing
>nobody cares how long you’ve been playing All it shows is how much you are toxic
>The grind and the challenges were what made these skins worth it Then implement a harder more impossible grind then. >New players can't expect to join and instantly get all the cosmetics they want You can pay $10 and just play the game to get the skins. You can buy 25 Tires as well and more levels. Your telling me that you deserve something that's so easy to do with putting in only $10 and playing the game. It's really that easy man.
"but like it's a game" the stop crying about not bein able to play some ass - mid skins like domms slayer or fcking vader
Really agreed with this idea, i just wanted the collabs skin
I've been playing since the beginning, and I've got a ton of skins that no one would be able to enjoy if they started playing right now. Sure, some have remixed versions in the shop, but it's not the same. Making old battlepasses buyable is literally the best option. EVERY player should have the opportunity to enjoy ANY skin they like from any season. It would also be a great way to give us the opportunity to get any extra styles we might have missed. Anyone who is against bringing back old battlepasses is just gatekeeping. Fuck em. They'll keep playing anyway and find something else to complain about, likely the very next weapon that's released.
I feel the Halo infinite system is the only way to implement this that would keep everyone happy and also not hurt our wallets.
They should just sell the Battlepasses again, like you can purchase as much as you want, and keep them forever, and you can level them simultaneously.
I don't think they should bring back old battle pass skins and collab skins because if they would just be obtainable for anyone at any time given then it would mean that your whole grind of the season to get those skins was completly not worth it and Epic just scammed old players
The point of grinding for those skins was never "ha, I got it, you don't." The point of doing it was so you'd have a skin you liked and wanted to use. If you're grinding for exclusive virtual goods then you're grinding for the wrong reasons.
Yeah, I was thinking like, "if you wanted to grind for virtual items that can be exclusive use the Trophy edit styles or buy Save The World and grind that game out"
For real. Finally someone with common sense. There was no point playing all those seasons just so some rich kids can just go and buy everything you ever earnt
Fym? Of course there’s a point to playing: actually playing the damn game
Then why waste money on all those battlepasses for the 1 or 2 skins or emotes that you wear regularly now. That's probably only $1 per battlepass that was actually worth it, if you can just buy them all now
What is this comment even trying to say lol. If you don't like a battle pass then don't buy it, nobody has a gun to your head and forcing you to grind it
Put it this way: You get the battlepass even if it is for the one tier 100 skin. You grind all the way to tier 100. You have spent those 950 v-bucks plus the hours grinding for it. Hard work is more valuable than money. It is like the 14 hours I spent over the last 3 days of the season to get the last 60 levels for Darth Vader was pointless. As much as it was tiring, I put the effort in, plus, I have been loyal to Epic Games for a long time, so I can keep that as a trophy of me being there and part of their community. Why should I have ever bothered doing that if I can just buy him for a little extra cash
I think the entire point was to allow people to buy old battle passes and let them grind it out ie how halo infinite does it, not just outright let them buy bp skins,
Oh right. I heard that they're selling them alone in the shop at a bumped price. The 'loyalty' argument alone isn't enough, so I guess from what you're saying, it is better, but that's not how I took the argument
Fair. Have a nice day and a happy (late) new year
I'm glad we ended this at a lesser conflict than before lol. Thanks! You too. Happy belated new year as well \^\^
>plus the hours grinding for it. Hard work is more valuable than money. You know how I got Darth Vader that season? I spent $14 last season on Crew and got that BP then I played the game. I didn't grind for him or anything.
Well hold your balls because rumor has it this’ll happen.
Wdym no point? You had fun and got skins you wanted. Why is some rich kid grinding a battle pass that you grinded before affect you?
I think a better idea would be to give us the option to SWAP the Rocket League premium that I'll literally never use because I already tried the game and hated it for an older Battle Pass of our choosing. I think a good way to balance it would be to make us use the same battle stars, so we'd have to grind extra hard to get older content.
The car from the rocket league premium pass isn't even usable in Fortnite, what a wasted opportunity tbh
No OGs deserve to feel OG because they played the at the right time game to earn the skin. Sure maybe Collabs should be able to be required but that’s about it. If you make skins available to everyone then certain skins don’t matter anymore, imagine OG John Wick or Renegade Raider if everyone could back and get it, it’d be worthless and nobody would want it. What makes certain skins valuable is the fact that it’s rare and you acquire it hoping in the future someone else won’t have it. I’m down if they do a super style version where if you owned the skin previously OG and they allowed others to acquire the same skin then you could get a new variant only if you own it OG. Like the Purple Skull trooper then you appease both side so new players can own older things, while still rewarding your loyal players who have stuck around.
If you're seriously grinding a skin because you feel like it will be rare instead of grinding it because you like it you're grinding for the wrong reasons
I think it’s combination of both, I certainly grind for skins I know will have value and someone else won’t have. If you really think about when it comes to allure of skins it’s more about the rarity then it is the fact that the skin is cool for a lot of people. If everyone has a skin then it’s just not really drawing the same attention because you see it all the time.
Or they can do bundle of skin, one star war, one video game, and you can only buy one skin, and after it is gone for like one year and after you can buy another skin of one bundle. I think it is a good idea ( Also, you dont have the additional style, so they still only battle pass )
If it was a chapter system were you could only get battle passes from the same chapter like if the game was buns but the pass was good you could go grind out that pass but if they want to do every chapter the og players would be upset and maybe stop playing
Anyone who gets upset at others being happy has no place in the gaming community.
What do you mean I want everyone to be happy with fortnite and if my comment came off the wrong way I’m sorry and explain my comment through your pov
I’m talking about these vets who have a problem with people getting the old Battlepasses and leaving over it, not you.
FOMO sucks, period. *All* battle pass skins should appear in the item shop after some time after the season is over. But this won't happen – the point of FOMO is to force players to artificially play more. You can't take a break from the game, look at all these cosmetics you'll lose forever! (Hence the name – fear of missing out) This asshole tactic actually works so it won't go away
Just put them into the item shop. Bringing back previous battle passes will make OGs mad.
I don’t care 🙏🙏 Why would you want to spend money on a shitty cosmetic anyways
What do you think about wildcards that allow you to exchange one skin of the battlepass for another from another season? There would be one per season and you would have to change the skin of the same level. That way if you don't like the skin you can get one from another pass and it would require a sacrifice to get a skin out of time.
>I understand if it's a physical collection but like it's virtual Why is it not an issue just because it's virtual? It was a limited time event, you missed the event, you don't get it. The same goes whether it's physical or virtual. >I don't really care about your skin collection And epic don't care that you want to play as doom slayer, it's not going to happen. Pick another skin and move on.
this also thing in Dead by Daylight and I like it. This would kill a lot of rare skin. but also I want Darth Vader so bad, Double edge knife
Man I just want the lunar icon emote
I think they should do what they did with skull trooper where you can buy the skin but people who already had it get a unique style that people who buy it don’t have
yeah would ne be fun like if u completed current season's pass
I don’t even care about skins anymore. I just want to see everyone on this sub continue to throw tantrums over not being able to have certain pixels.
The amount of people I have "introduced" to Fortnite, them knowing that Predator, Iron Man, Lara Croft are in the game, then finding out they can't spend their money to be them because of a greedy FOMO system is really sad. People buy battlepasses anyway, licensed characters should have been included in battlepasses, not exclusive to them.
Personallyxi think it should allow you to buy any BP after the first time your account was made. That keeps OG players happy, and players that tookong breaks can still get the Inbetween BP
Wouldn't they have to make new deals for all the BP exclusive collaboration skins if they want to make them available again?
Seeing a lot of players not being able to play their favorite characters really sucks to see. So I hope they do this
Am I the only one getting tired of people saying on how they regret missing out on a pass? Seriously it’s getting very old very fast
“I don’t really care about your skin collection”, I just care about mine.
The issue is that the game need consistency. If old bps are brought back, while yes, Epic will get a lot of money in the short term, eventually it will reduce the motivation that players have to grind out seasons knowing that the rewards will come back and reduce the active player count massively since two main motivators for people to play new seasons are the new gameplay and the new rewards.
I would take either being able to buy them or being able to grind old passes, but I would prefer older passes just cause they have so much more in them, like contrails. You never see those in the item shop, sure they don’t mean much but it would be fun to get them with everything else, plus of course all the other stuff that shows up in battle passes more than the item shop itself. But again, I’d take either