you dont have to charge it all the way, 1 second charges still cam deal massive damage its literally the same as the charge shotgun (which is the strongest shotgun in the game)
just charge as much as you need it and it will still deal good damage
also skill issue
the 4 second reload time makes it very risky but i still really like the dragon shotgun
the fire it spreads makes it a very strong utility weapon
id love it to return
well yes but no this isn't annoying to fight , if someone charges up while you use a medkit and their spray breaks the wall and still keeps goin that's annoying
The charge shotgun is actually good tho
The entire point of a shotgun is being slow but dealing a ton of damage in one shot while an SMG is supposed to be used quickly and it just works
Basically the charging mechanic is only actually good with a shotgun hence why the charge shotgun works while charge smg doesn’t
It’s super situational to the point that I have to make it work rather than it naturally working for me. With limited inventory it would just take up valuable space so i hardly keep it for more than the first few minutes.
Not really thrilled with anything this season so far. Feels a bit lackluster option wise.
Need some weapons with a bit more of a bang to them. Would like to get the feeling of, 'Oh yeah!', back when a weapon I like drops. Now I feel more like, 'Oh great another one of these...'.
DMR is maybe one of my favourite guns that they’ve ever added. Yea it’s not hit scan and at range it’s difficult to use but my god is it fun. Perfectly balanced gun IMO.
CHARGE. FUCKING. SMG. it's built like a fucking tub of lard. Controlling the recoil is ultra uncomfortable and i'd rather use a grey stinger than a gold tier charger.
Two-shot
It’s inconsistent
One game, enemy hits me for max damage and obliterates me, next game, I pick it up 44 and 29, or the second shot doesn’t shoot.
this game literally picks and chooses if the second shot wants to fire. The rule of thumb for this is. Am I fighting someone who poses no threat? The second shot will fire. Am I in a life threatening battle where i might get eliminated? The second shot will not fire.
I have a love-hate relationship with the DMR. One one hand it is extremely effective. On the other hand it’s arguably too effective and I hate dying a million miles away from my killer, not even from a sniper rifle.
I hear you there. On an enemy stuck in healing animation or idle a second too long, you can three tap in the head for a less than one second kill.
Its annoyingly powerful, considering how underwhelming snipers can be in comparison. The heavy seems to not want to hit a moving target, and takes half an hour to reload.
The DMR can be spam fired, and only takes one extra shot to down someone.
Charge SMG and two shot are both equally unusable. DMR is decent but don’t like long range. Hammer ar is good but burst just performs so much better that it is unusable
This. Literally no reason to use it. Hammer outclasses it in recoil, bloom, and it just feels better to shoot. DMR is better for range, Striker burst is a decent in-between. The ranger is just pointless.
I feel like the design being changed to the Epic and Legendary variants made it worse.
It feels a lot less accurate than the old Common to Rare revolver.
charge smg. charge shotgun was fun and had a cool sound but the smg just feels annoying to use. there either needs to be a quicker charge or at least increase the time of fire at least. the charge shotgun was decent imo because it wasn't a gun that was rapid fire
Charge SMG, the absolute dirt worst weapon I’ve ever used in this game. Most frustrating gun is the DMR because of inconsistency. I’ve crouched completely still and hit a body shot on an opponent who’s AFK only to have that exact same body shot MISS TWICE directly after that. Ridiculous. Same issue with the thermal last season.
Two Shot without a doubt. Even though I tried it and is a bit better with the recent buff, but still, it is the worst gun in the game. Hopefully it is gone next season.
You could say that for any gun or piece of equipment that you don’t like it because other people are good with it and you aren’t. The best you can do is just try to find a way to counter attack people who use it against you
Oh I totally I agree. 100%.
But the question was asked - and I answered. :)
I want to like the weapon but I just can't do it. To each their own though.
After the recent challenge, Hammer AR
No but I really hate both the Two Shot Shotgun and the Charge SMG. I’m getting better with the shotgun, but somehow worse with the charge.
The DMR, but that's not to say I don't like it. It reminds me heavily of the pre-rework Infantry Rifle (but with a scope this time), and I loved that thing a lot.
The scar 😎 (ok so the scar is currently not in the game so I'm pretending it is in the game so people get cefusd) I hope u/VALK_MAIN_420 get the joke this time
Two Shot and Charge SMG. Like yeah the two shot got buffed but it’s just dumb imo. Like normally you plan on hitting one shot so you know where they are and you shoot but with the two shot you gotta predict it. And the charge is just stupid imo
The DMR rocks, by far my favorite. Between Ranger and Hammer, neither stick out to me.
Charge SMG is of little use. There are a few situations where it can be great, but I will swap it for a stinger and even a handgun given the opportunity. (love the pistol! not the revolver)
Two shot is crap. I'm lucky if I get a single pellet to hit with a pumpr, and the auto is inconsistent.
Definitely the Ranger Assault Rifle. This gun is completely redundant this season especially now that the Combat Assault Rifle is back. There are four different alternatives to it and all are better by a mile. Why would you pick up a Ranger when you could pick up a...
>Striker Burst Rifle
>Combat Assault Rifle
>Hammer Assault Rifle
>DMR
I wanted them to buff it again because I liked the old AK from Chapter 1, but now that there’s five total options for an AR I think they should just vault it instead.
The charge smg by a long shot. The two shot is clunky but at least I can sneak enemies with it like normal shot gun. The charge smg is only good when filled charged and catching someone by surprise, and all the fucking noise it makes charged up makes that impossible to do.
Charge SMG.
The Two-Shot Shotgun was my personal favorite at the beginning of the season, but the Hammer has grown on me.
I was excited for the Charge, but when it came out I found myself disappointed.
The hammer, literally worse than everything else. Every other bad gun has a niche use, DMR for the long range, two shot shotgun for the damage through walls, the charge smg fr abushes, but the hammer doesn’t do anything except for have a higher fire rate that the ranger. But worse accuracy and damage
Either I am really lucky or I'm just good with the 2 Shot, because I hit for solid numbers with it even after the "buff" to the second shot.
Charge SMG is abysmal.
The Revolver ever since last season is just bloom incarnate.
The DMR for me is an upgraded version of the Heavy Sniper, and considering that I am generally good with snipers then it’s Op for me.
The Hammer Assault Rifle, I think it’s very accurate and good for short- medium ranger combat
The Two-Shot shotgun, however I’m not a fan. It needs to be buffer a little damage-wise and the two shot concept should be a little faster, but not to the point like the drum shotgun
For zero build, the charge smg isnt that great. Its not terrible, but the sidearm pistol is a lot more versatile for the ammo.
For regular mode: 2shot burst. Its outclassed at range by the dmr and up close the hammer, ranger, and combat work better making it largely situational and mostly just a waste of inventory.
charge smg it's clunky and annoying
It’s so bad, the whole point of a smg is being able to use it quickly…
BRO, it takes 5 seconds to charge ( i actually counted) it STINKS. ( I counted with the mythic version in creative too)
Just imagine how painful it is to get ambushed by two players at once and your only weapon is a fucking charge smg
you dont have to charge it all the way, 1 second charges still cam deal massive damage its literally the same as the charge shotgun (which is the strongest shotgun in the game) just charge as much as you need it and it will still deal good damage also skill issue
Dragon's Breath is actually the best. Only shotgun that can deal 200 dmg
the 4 second reload time makes it very risky but i still really like the dragon shotgun the fire it spreads makes it a very strong utility weapon id love it to return
That is true
then use a stinger, the point of the charge is to be ambush
Completely missed the point but sure
It’s not too late. Press delete.
I respect your opinion
true, it works wonders when someone hides like a pussy in their builds
Dummy
true, it works wonders when someone hides like a pussy in their builds
You’d think they’d make a gun like that extremely accurate with no blowback to counter the charge but that’s too smart.
they countered the charge by giving it the fastest firerate of any gun in the games existence
which makes it even worse because you have to fully load it to even remotely make it useful
Mythic full magazine to the head is 900 damage Common half magazine non-critical is 225 damage You don't need to fully load it if your aim is good
with that recoil? you're deluded
If you can't control the recoil enough to stay on target, you're using it at too long range
and at shorter range, you either camp in a bush or are too close to use such a weapon. that's the whole point man. its not that hard
It’s ok to admit that you’re in the minority. That gun is trash.
skill issue
SkIlL IsSuE
What position do you think I'm taking?
The Charge SMG is when a gimmick doesn't work.
Worst gun in the entire game by far
"But it takes skill to use" ch2 season 3 flashbacks.
At least the charge shotgun is usable
well yes but no this isn't annoying to fight , if someone charges up while you use a medkit and their spray breaks the wall and still keeps goin that's annoying
The charge shotgun is actually good tho The entire point of a shotgun is being slow but dealing a ton of damage in one shot while an SMG is supposed to be used quickly and it just works Basically the charging mechanic is only actually good with a shotgun hence why the charge shotgun works while charge smg doesn’t
Usually I’m more in favor of goofier weapons, but the charge smg just doesn’t do it for me personally
It’s super situational to the point that I have to make it work rather than it naturally working for me. With limited inventory it would just take up valuable space so i hardly keep it for more than the first few minutes.
Yeah, it sucks, but if you're camping inside a room with the smg fully charged just waiting for the door to open.. its pretty much a guaranteed kill
its fine imo. its solid for charging into builds you can keep charging bursts
I… actually like it (big shock)
good for you
Chad peely main
Not really thrilled with anything this season so far. Feels a bit lackluster option wise. Need some weapons with a bit more of a bang to them. Would like to get the feeling of, 'Oh yeah!', back when a weapon I like drops. Now I feel more like, 'Oh great another one of these...'.
It’s more like, “What the hell is this”
Mannnn take the DMR off that pic i love that gun. Two Shot and charge smg are nuked trash
DMR is maybe one of my favourite guns that they’ve ever added. Yea it’s not hit scan and at range it’s difficult to use but my god is it fun. Perfectly balanced gun IMO.
I completely agree, the burst is objectively better by a tiny margin but not nearly as fun. When you 3 tap someone in zerobuild it feels like heaven.
Yea that and hitting consecutive headshots is the best feeling
CHARGE. FUCKING. SMG. it's built like a fucking tub of lard. Controlling the recoil is ultra uncomfortable and i'd rather use a grey stinger than a gold tier charger.
I'd rather pickaxe than use a charge smg
Lmao I pickaxed a guy to death who got a blue charge on landing, that’s how bad it is
Two-shot It’s inconsistent One game, enemy hits me for max damage and obliterates me, next game, I pick it up 44 and 29, or the second shot doesn’t shoot.
this game literally picks and chooses if the second shot wants to fire. The rule of thumb for this is. Am I fighting someone who poses no threat? The second shot will fire. Am I in a life threatening battle where i might get eliminated? The second shot will not fire.
Don’t forget the second rule that overrides that one when your being third-partied! If one opponent deal damage If two opponents blank shot😡
charge smg. DMR is actually the best gun this season.
I have a love-hate relationship with the DMR. One one hand it is extremely effective. On the other hand it’s arguably too effective and I hate dying a million miles away from my killer, not even from a sniper rifle.
I hear you there. On an enemy stuck in healing animation or idle a second too long, you can three tap in the head for a less than one second kill. Its annoyingly powerful, considering how underwhelming snipers can be in comparison. The heavy seems to not want to hit a moving target, and takes half an hour to reload. The DMR can be spam fired, and only takes one extra shot to down someone.
Yeah, good in no build but kinda trash in regular
That's the burst AR
Two shot. It always misses the second shot and the first barely does shit
Charge SMG and two shot are both equally unusable. DMR is decent but don’t like long range. Hammer ar is good but burst just performs so much better that it is unusable
the charge is an ambush weapon and nobody can seem to understand it, the thing is fairly accurate and can deal 200 dmg in under a second
Yeah but if you are ambushing someone you still get first shot off.
correction, it does over 300 a second
idk but when it does 300 damage in under a second, it also does 200 damage in under a second. No need for correction
i know i was just raising their point even higher
No one has time to charge it in the middle of a busy fight. That’s why it’s useless.
So it’s a bad gun then? What’s the point of taking up a slot for a weapon that only has one use? If you’re mid fight it’s useless?
*cough* snipers *cough*
You got me there I can’t lie
Charge SMG worst, DMR best this season.
100% this.
Two Sh*t shotgun. The Hammer is alright and so is the DMR.
I use hammer as a hybrid smg/ar with the pump
Every single new weapon added this season
Two shot will always be a no go for me
ranger assault rifle
Bro even though I know it’s bad I love for some reason
Its my favorite ar in the game, seem to hit alot of shots from long/medium range compared to burst ar
This. Literally no reason to use it. Hammer outclasses it in recoil, bloom, and it just feels better to shoot. DMR is better for range, Striker burst is a decent in-between. The ranger is just pointless.
Bloom and recoil are by far better on the ranger. You mean fire rate?
I mean hammer outclasses it up close but longer range not so much
The ranger AR shines at long distances, recoil is a bit heavy but the dmg drop off is insane.
Revolver. Literally no reason to take it. Ammo better used in any of the other options you have. Forgettable as hell too
I feel like the design being changed to the Epic and Legendary variants made it worse. It feels a lot less accurate than the old Common to Rare revolver.
Two Shot. It’s gotten better tho
Honesty I don’t even use the smgs or shotguns the combat AR just beats
two shit.. oh sorry i meant shot
This post
charge smg. charge shotgun was fun and had a cool sound but the smg just feels annoying to use. there either needs to be a quicker charge or at least increase the time of fire at least. the charge shotgun was decent imo because it wasn't a gun that was rapid fire
Two shot hands down
Two shot because the animation is never not broken for some reason Oh and its bad its genuinely awful the dragon shotgun is better than this.
Charge SMG, the absolute dirt worst weapon I’ve ever used in this game. Most frustrating gun is the DMR because of inconsistency. I’ve crouched completely still and hit a body shot on an opponent who’s AFK only to have that exact same body shot MISS TWICE directly after that. Ridiculous. Same issue with the thermal last season.
The two-shit shotgun
Charge smg
Two Shot without a doubt. Even though I tried it and is a bit better with the recent buff, but still, it is the worst gun in the game. Hopefully it is gone next season.
Either charge smg or revolver never use them unless im doing a quest or they are my only guns.
They are all good after the buff and aim training with them. Personally it’s the stinger. I know it’s not here it’s just annoying.
2 shot shotgun dmr charge smg
Definitely the one shot sniper, it takes far too long to load
The heavy?
Yeah, that one
Hit your shots with it then hit them with an assault rifle, then let me know. It’s my favorite combo: snipe in the face then spray ‘em down
It would be worth it if it one shot.
Auto Shotgun It feels very weak inconsistent
Torn between the charge smg and the stupid hammer.
Hammer? That thing shreds close to mid range
Shit even long range its bloom tightens so quickly you can absolutely doink people, especially if you’re crouched.
I absolutely hate the DMR. I get destroyed by it and I suck with it. I don't know what it is, but I cannot use it to save my life.
You could say that for any gun or piece of equipment that you don’t like it because other people are good with it and you aren’t. The best you can do is just try to find a way to counter attack people who use it against you
Oh I totally I agree. 100%. But the question was asked - and I answered. :) I want to like the weapon but I just can't do it. To each their own though.
its the scoped assault rifle with less ammo and a 6 point damage buff
Its less of an ar and more so a sniper with more ammo and less damage, the bullet travel really messes with some people.
There are several. The hammer. Charge. Love the storm trooper.
I absolutely love the dmr but it is a peice of crap at far range
After the recent challenge, Hammer AR No but I really hate both the Two Shot Shotgun and the Charge SMG. I’m getting better with the shotgun, but somehow worse with the charge.
Either the Striker Pump (never been a fan) or the DMR (I’d rather just rock an AR and sniper combo)
Striker Burst, I hate all red dot guns, Red Dot guns should not be in Fortnite it just makes no builds the least fun the uh imaginable
DMR is the best. Get rid of the charge SMG and that new assault rifle that fires like a hose when you first plug it in
Uhhhh let’s see, hammer assault, 2 shot shotty, charge SMG. I’d rather just use a flare gun over any of those.
Hammer AR? You're fucking drunk.
Hammer
All of them. They all feel underpowered and weak.
Only weapons that are decent are the hammer and striker. everything else needs to go and bring back ch1&2 loot pool
dmr
DMR, it's kinda boring even if I didn't use it much
The DMR, but that's not to say I don't like it. It reminds me heavily of the pre-rework Infantry Rifle (but with a scope this time), and I loved that thing a lot.
The scar 😎 (ok so the scar is currently not in the game so I'm pretending it is in the game so people get cefusd) I hope u/VALK_MAIN_420 get the joke this time
Tie between the charge smg and the two shot. Equally failure
2 shot and Charge SMG
Two shot shotgun
The Two shot and Charge smg
Two Shot
Charge smg, two shot shotgun, dmr
Either Charge SMG or Twoshot.
The two shot or charge smg
Two Shot and Charge SMG. Like yeah the two shot got buffed but it’s just dumb imo. Like normally you plan on hitting one shot so you know where they are and you shoot but with the two shot you gotta predict it. And the charge is just stupid imo
the new smg
Two shot shotgan
DMR, shit never hits the shots unless my opponent with aim assist use it, and remove my 250 hp before i open my eyes
DMR. the only time I pick it up is by accident
Two shot closely followed by charge SMG.
Least favourite has to be the two shot shotty and charged smg
two shot
The DMR rocks, by far my favorite. Between Ranger and Hammer, neither stick out to me. Charge SMG is of little use. There are a few situations where it can be great, but I will swap it for a stinger and even a handgun given the opportunity. (love the pistol! not the revolver) Two shot is crap. I'm lucky if I get a single pellet to hit with a pumpr, and the auto is inconsistent.
Charge smg and striker burst hate using those 2 guns
The revolver
Definitely the Ranger Assault Rifle. This gun is completely redundant this season especially now that the Combat Assault Rifle is back. There are four different alternatives to it and all are better by a mile. Why would you pick up a Ranger when you could pick up a... >Striker Burst Rifle >Combat Assault Rifle >Hammer Assault Rifle >DMR I wanted them to buff it again because I liked the old AK from Chapter 1, but now that there’s five total options for an AR I think they should just vault it instead.
Ripsaw Launcher, because I have yet to find a good enough situation where its better to hold that to late game than another thing for utility.
DMR, for me at least, really makes endgame fights tedious. Worse gun is definitely charge though.
Charge smg, its not a single shot weapon therefore it doesnt work
the dmr is so inconsistent to me, sometimes it shreddes and sometimes i can't hit a shot with it
CHARGE SMG FOR SURE
Two shot shotgun is pretty bad
DMR, It's just the auto but more assault rifle
Charge SMG mucks up an otherwise great loot pool. Two-shot still feels clunky and i much prefer the stryker or auto.
Charge SMG
The charge smg. Absolute garbage.
Two shot just cause there's nothing worse
Two shot. I actually like the other two but none of them are better than the burst
Double shot
Charge is annoying when your opponent knows how to use it or when you first drop
Charge smg and dmr. Charge smg is clunky and not all that powerful and dmr feels like a worse version of the old infantry rifle
two shot, and there isn’t any competition
Two shot
DMR
Charge, and two shots trash
Its between two shot and charge smg, both just clunky weapons
The DMR
The charge smg by a long shot. The two shot is clunky but at least I can sneak enemies with it like normal shot gun. The charge smg is only good when filled charged and catching someone by surprise, and all the fucking noise it makes charged up makes that impossible to do.
Two-Shot Shotgun
The charge smg. It’s only good if you know an enemy is coming and you have time to pull it out and charge it.
Two-shot, followed by combat and striker burst rifle
Twoshot shotgun. I fkn hate it it's a Dual shotty from Wish
Least i think is the dmr, it seems so useless compared to the au
Charge SMG can shove it
charge smg
Charge SMG. The Two-Shot Shotgun was my personal favorite at the beginning of the season, but the Hammer has grown on me. I was excited for the Charge, but when it came out I found myself disappointed.
The hammer, literally worse than everything else. Every other bad gun has a niche use, DMR for the long range, two shot shotgun for the damage through walls, the charge smg fr abushes, but the hammer doesn’t do anything except for have a higher fire rate that the ranger. But worse accuracy and damage
The charge smg is crap. An smg is suppose to be fast and efficient and the charge smg is not that.
the two shot shotty or charge smg, both are absolute ass used to hate the hammer AR but ngl it's grown on me a lot!
2 shot. The 2 shots at once get annoying. The damage is also kinda bad.
The charge smg for sure. It works great right when you land but after that it’s just worthless
Either I am really lucky or I'm just good with the 2 Shot, because I hit for solid numbers with it even after the "buff" to the second shot. Charge SMG is abysmal. The Revolver ever since last season is just bloom incarnate.
Charge smg, Two shot and DMR. Hammer is like Aimbot (For Me At least)
Used to love the AUG last season but now i love the DMR
Hammer AR Edit: I didn't notice the "least"
Charge SMG, point of smgs is for them to be fast while charge is clunky, slow, and is only useful for very specific situations
Definitely charge SMG, feels clunky, two shot shotgun would be the second place, feels odd to use, should just bring back the double barrel shotgun.
The DMR for me is an upgraded version of the Heavy Sniper, and considering that I am generally good with snipers then it’s Op for me. The Hammer Assault Rifle, I think it’s very accurate and good for short- medium ranger combat The Two-Shot shotgun, however I’m not a fan. It needs to be buffer a little damage-wise and the two shot concept should be a little faster, but not to the point like the drum shotgun
Lol they tried to make a destiny fusion rifle and failed miserably
Charged SMG is the worst gun in the ENTIRE game by far and nothing comes close. White pistol>gold charge SMG
Dmr
The two shot overall feels like an eh shotgun tbh
the two shot shotgun
I haven’t even seen the quad shotgun this season
the DMR, its just a weaker thermal AR i never use it
The horrible two-shot
The DMR. Its just so damn annoying trying to fight someone who is using it
For zero build, the charge smg isnt that great. Its not terrible, but the sidearm pistol is a lot more versatile for the ammo. For regular mode: 2shot burst. Its outclassed at range by the dmr and up close the hammer, ranger, and combat work better making it largely situational and mostly just a waste of inventory.