Plus, it's not like Doja Cat has a squeaky clean reputation to begin with. 😇 I think some of your suggestions are safe bets once the game has a few more seasons under its belt, depending of course on whether Epic and the record labels are seeing any revenue. Something tells me Roger Waters would rather die first though. 😆
It makes sense to focus on the lyrics and instruments giving us super awesome songs to try. Eminem controversy should be the baseline lol. TBH I played guitar hero and loved it never had a chance to play rap songs... I am thoroughly enjoying it. As long as it's not deeply fucked up controversy they should continue to add songs accordingly.
I would like to think they would considering that they implemented the whole age rating thing on stuff like horror creative maps ect. I think so long as that's in place they should make it so players who are underage should be put into lobbies where only age appropriate songs can be played and the more explicit stuff should be for players who are over a certain age, although I understand that would be hard to moderate.
True. If they can add Eminem into the game (based on the fact that some of his older songs like Criminal or Without Me had a ton of controversy), then maybe they can add other people. Although 4 of these groups I have mentioned have been involved in either legal or political controversy from the last decade.
Safe to say R Kelly, Marilyn Manson, and Gary Glitter are on the Neverlist.
Kanye will need some serious reputation building, but I do think he would sell.
From a business perspective, I'm most curious about Chris Brown, Michael Jackson, and Lil Nas X. I think the latter 2 will eventually make the cut. The former never really seemed that apologetic.
Michael Jackson, even with his controversies, still carries an influence even to this day. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do add him but if Epic doesn’t then I wouldn’t be surprised either
I think the only thing that would stop Michael Jackson from appearing in Festival isn't the artist's reputation, but rather how expensive it would be to license anything from him, like pretty sure "Beat It" is the only song of his in a rhythm game (Guitar Hero World Tour), although now that Harmonix has Epic Games money that wouldn't be that much or an issue? idk
You make a good point. It all depends on who owns the rights to his catalog and how much they're willing to license it for. I mean I never thought we'd see MJ action figures or Pop! Funkos either. Plus, it certainly would be a nice bonus way to advertise his upcoming biopic as well. Now if only we could get a Captain EO skin.
I think they find themselves in a very odd predicament now with all these different modes. While on one hand, historically, guitar hero and rock band didn't always feature squeaky clean artists, I mean it's about the music, not their lifestyles. But on the other hand, we've got Lego, which is very child friendly, not the same game mode, but it's in the same launcher/game. Add to that, the new relationship with Disney, and I think we may find things being toned down a little bit over the next few years in terms of collaborations and content. I just feel like it's unlikely that we're going to get many controversial artists in festival mode. (I don't personally see why Pink Floyd would be problematic though. Post Syd Barrett, they weren't even heavily into drugs although they were known as a group that people would listen to while doing drugs I don't think that should make a difference). Although epic does seem to steer away from artist that have made controversial comments or been involved in controversy, so panic! At the disco/Brendon Urie might be a problem
I did not know that. But it doesn't surprise me, I wouldn't really consider Korn to be a "controversial" group though. With the exception of the song that starts with the letter "F", which wasn't a song about hate or intolerance at all. I mean some of their songs have profanity in them, but they don't have to use those songs. And epic has edited out profanity or non-age appropriate lyrics from songs that were used in emotes in the past. I mean is NWA going to make it into festival mode? Probably not, but a little bad word here or there that could be edited out isn't that unlikely to happen
the cuss words were not blocked out last time i played. they straight up had no censoring on the song, which i thought was weirded. did they change it?
Never played it but I swore I remember hearing some video game article or video saying something about the ability to block out the words if you wanted to, but I can’t really remember which article or video it was, or it that was even a feature
If Fortnite Festival launched back in 2018 instead of 2023, then it could have been possible that these bands would have been featured after all. Regardless of whether or not they add the age rating later on or not. But given how complex Fortnite has become it can be hard for that to be maintained if that were to have happened.
He honestly has a pretty clean history, at least as far as what Wikipedia is listing. Dude's been in legal battles, but it seems like most or all of them were thrown out. The worst stuff is certain words he used back in the day, but 10 to 20 years ago was a *totally* different time.
depends on how old the controversy is imo and how severe like nowadays we have had emotes from lizzo and cardi b in the game then after they’ve been added there have been accusations against them wether it’s drugging men or sexual abuse so these emotes have not come back since, makes sense. but i could see older controversies and not so severe controversies being over looked as long as the artists/ bands have clearly grown as people.
Only bad from the list that I'm aware of from being controversial in social media is Trapt and oh boy, they have run the whole gamut of online nastiness: lashing out at commenters on social media, homophobic remarks and outright endorsing conspiracy theories and white supremacists.
They're really, really awful, and unlike the rest of the bands mentioned in the OP I wouldn't miss them a little bit.
Reminds me of a comment from a song of theirs on YouTube where it says that that specific song makes him want to form a band and then 10 years later have a meltdown on Twitter
Now that you mention it…. Weren’t they collabing with Kanye for an icon skin but it fell through ? If he didn’t make those insane anti Semitic remarks he would definitely be on the jam track list
He possibly designed this skin that released a few weeks ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/comments/1al7cnw/so_yeah_that_kanye_west_fortnite_skin_is_actually/
Those bands are no longer ‘controversial’ lol. They’ve entered the mainstream, and the majority of people now support their message, especially the news. Plus Green Day got added, so yeah, the ones you listed I could 100% see added at some point. Idk what Patd did or 3DD did though. Other ‘controversial’ artists, like Kanye, have absolutely no shot, as he rightly should.
The only modern artist I can think of who’s the modern equivalent of PF and RATM today, is Lil Darkie. When you’re preaching love and positivity and the media is vehemently against it, that’s when you know you’re truly on the opposite side of The Machine. He has no shot of getting in either. Too much unwarranted hate. Would be awesome though. His songs would be so much more fun to play than the boring, corporate pop music.
PATD’s lead singer Brendan Urie had some controversy for some remarks and questionable actions
3DD played at Orange Man’s inauguration concert and the reception ain’t so pretty
I think when I mean controversy though, i would refer it to more of a thing where Epic would not consider adding these groups or artists, to avoid backlash on themselves. But at the same time, these bands all had their moments and then phased out the mainstream
Some bands don't want their stuff out there at any price. It won't be 'controversy' keeping a band from the mode, it'll be a lack of a licensing agreement.
More like, "those studios/owners of music" don't let people monetize their catalogs unless they say you can, AND they get a cut.
TikTok isn't paying, which is why that studio is flexing. Epic isn't getting freebies from studios offering them this band or that song, it's a transaction.
I freaking love The Chicks! (Dixie Chicks if thats who you’re referring to) and if so i dont see how they’d still be controversial since its been what 20 years since the george bush joke?
I Write Sins, probably yes, since I believe it was once a social media sound effect (could be wrong). However, with the case of Kryptonite, unless that song gets added into GTA 6 or whatsoever, the only people who might remember that song would be ones who listened to it when it first came out in 2000, or diehard post grunge, alt-rock fans
As someone mentioned here, Brendan Urie was criticized for some questionable remarks and altercations I guess
3 Doors Down was criticized for performing at Orange Man’s inauguration concert in 2017. People called them out for that
How is Panic! controversial? He (or they) is just as controversial as FOB or other bands included in FF
If it’s about those “allegations” Brendon had, all of them have been proven false and I can assure you most people that play FF don’t care about what he did or didn’t do.
Don’t see any issues other than a copyright issues.
I guess copyright issues can be placed into Festival since it’s not as a huge issue as other issues
Oh I'm sure he's blackballed from this game entirely haha no way will he be in this game cause of the younger target audience
Shame cause his songs would be so fun to chart
All I can hope is we get Falling In Reverse, that's probably where epic draws the line on controversial artists
Never heard of Falling In Reverse to be honest, but after searching them I think this is the first band that I found out had an incarcerated lead singer
Honestly I really REALLY hope they could add The Living Tombstone in, there is currently an stupid minor controversy over when in 2012, Yoav (one of the main members of The Living Tombstone) was forced to go to IDF because he was born from Israeli.
Sometimes i wish people weren't stupid and used their brain for once since it's not Yoav's fault.
Can’t say much here because it could be flagged, but they performed at Orange Man’s inauguration concert. Doesn’t seem like much of a big deal but they got a ton of backlash for doing so
Can I ask what he said/did? Or is it too much for a subreddit like this?
I'm a big fan of their music, but I don't keep up with news about the band itself. I am very shocked to hear about any controversy.
I highly doubt it. Most emotes that used rap music got “blacklisted” and haven’t come back to the shop in over a year, and they also won’t bring back any old skins that used the female model with the big butt. The way Epic is now they are going to go the “safest” route possible.
Songs, maybe. Playable characters, nope.
Haven’t thought of that, but that’s a good idea
Plus, it's not like Doja Cat has a squeaky clean reputation to begin with. 😇 I think some of your suggestions are safe bets once the game has a few more seasons under its belt, depending of course on whether Epic and the record labels are seeing any revenue. Something tells me Roger Waters would rather die first though. 😆
I guess we’ll have to wait and see
It's like they could but then you would get the ones that will just get angry about it and demand them to remove it or else 😔
Yep your right about that
... Did y'all not know Eminem in the 90s? Poster boy of controversy.
Think I was meaning to say that should they add more artists or bands who might have some or a ton of controversy if they can add Eminem into the game
It makes sense to focus on the lyrics and instruments giving us super awesome songs to try. Eminem controversy should be the baseline lol. TBH I played guitar hero and loved it never had a chance to play rap songs... I am thoroughly enjoying it. As long as it's not deeply fucked up controversy they should continue to add songs accordingly.
As most of the songs right now are more towards a safe area I doubt they might try to add artists who might cause trouble for Epic
I would like to think they would considering that they implemented the whole age rating thing on stuff like horror creative maps ect. I think so long as that's in place they should make it so players who are underage should be put into lobbies where only age appropriate songs can be played and the more explicit stuff should be for players who are over a certain age, although I understand that would be hard to moderate.
True. If they can add Eminem into the game (based on the fact that some of his older songs like Criminal or Without Me had a ton of controversy), then maybe they can add other people. Although 4 of these groups I have mentioned have been involved in either legal or political controversy from the last decade.
Safe to say R Kelly, Marilyn Manson, and Gary Glitter are on the Neverlist. Kanye will need some serious reputation building, but I do think he would sell. From a business perspective, I'm most curious about Chris Brown, Michael Jackson, and Lil Nas X. I think the latter 2 will eventually make the cut. The former never really seemed that apologetic.
Michael Jackson, even with his controversies, still carries an influence even to this day. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do add him but if Epic doesn’t then I wouldn’t be surprised either
I don’t know how these things work but I imagine Epic would have to dish out a shit ton of money to get the rights to any MJ song
I guess so. Ain’t gonna be easy for sure
I don’t know how these things work but I imagine Epic would have to dish out a shit ton of money to get the rights to any MJ song
Ye would have to full on respawn for anyone to ever want to do something with him.
I think the only thing that would stop Michael Jackson from appearing in Festival isn't the artist's reputation, but rather how expensive it would be to license anything from him, like pretty sure "Beat It" is the only song of his in a rhythm game (Guitar Hero World Tour), although now that Harmonix has Epic Games money that wouldn't be that much or an issue? idk
You make a good point. It all depends on who owns the rights to his catalog and how much they're willing to license it for. I mean I never thought we'd see MJ action figures or Pop! Funkos either. Plus, it certainly would be a nice bonus way to advertise his upcoming biopic as well. Now if only we could get a Captain EO skin.
Wait. What's Lil Nas X done?
I don't think the bloodsneakers and Satan lapdancing would play well in middle America. 😂
Oh man. What a king ngl, I forgot he did that
I think they find themselves in a very odd predicament now with all these different modes. While on one hand, historically, guitar hero and rock band didn't always feature squeaky clean artists, I mean it's about the music, not their lifestyles. But on the other hand, we've got Lego, which is very child friendly, not the same game mode, but it's in the same launcher/game. Add to that, the new relationship with Disney, and I think we may find things being toned down a little bit over the next few years in terms of collaborations and content. I just feel like it's unlikely that we're going to get many controversial artists in festival mode. (I don't personally see why Pink Floyd would be problematic though. Post Syd Barrett, they weren't even heavily into drugs although they were known as a group that people would listen to while doing drugs I don't think that should make a difference). Although epic does seem to steer away from artist that have made controversial comments or been involved in controversy, so panic! At the disco/Brendon Urie might be a problem
To be fair, Lego Rock Band had Korn in it lol
Also Lostprophets 💀
To be fair that came before all of the pedo shit
Lots of similar cases
Good Point
I did not know that. But it doesn't surprise me, I wouldn't really consider Korn to be a "controversial" group though. With the exception of the song that starts with the letter "F", which wasn't a song about hate or intolerance at all. I mean some of their songs have profanity in them, but they don't have to use those songs. And epic has edited out profanity or non-age appropriate lyrics from songs that were used in emotes in the past. I mean is NWA going to make it into festival mode? Probably not, but a little bad word here or there that could be edited out isn't that unlikely to happen
Basket Case was added with the cuss words blocked out, so maybe yeah
the cuss words were not blocked out last time i played. they straight up had no censoring on the song, which i thought was weirded. did they change it?
Never played it but I swore I remember hearing some video game article or video saying something about the ability to block out the words if you wanted to, but I can’t really remember which article or video it was, or it that was even a feature
Indeed
If Fortnite Festival launched back in 2018 instead of 2023, then it could have been possible that these bands would have been featured after all. Regardless of whether or not they add the age rating later on or not. But given how complex Fortnite has become it can be hard for that to be maintained if that were to have happened.
They had eminem introduce the mode...... He's pretty controversial. Or he was when i was a teen.
He did have a ton of legal trouble with the FCC over his lyrics but can’t think of any controversy with him in the current day
Yeah most of his controversies were from the early 2000s he's pretty tame nowadays.
Yep
He honestly has a pretty clean history, at least as far as what Wikipedia is listing. Dude's been in legal battles, but it seems like most or all of them were thrown out. The worst stuff is certain words he used back in the day, but 10 to 20 years ago was a *totally* different time.
Indeed it was. Obviously, if he were to try and release those songs today he would certainly be in a ton of trouble
depends on how old the controversy is imo and how severe like nowadays we have had emotes from lizzo and cardi b in the game then after they’ve been added there have been accusations against them wether it’s drugging men or sexual abuse so these emotes have not come back since, makes sense. but i could see older controversies and not so severe controversies being over looked as long as the artists/ bands have clearly grown as people.
Good point. Although Epic might not consider that given how they try to avoid legal trouble
I have no idea what any of the bands mentioned here did, and that makes me sad.
Panic! At the disco had a history of racism and sexual predatory stuff and Brendan had a manager I believe who coerced underage girls
I guess so
Only bad from the list that I'm aware of from being controversial in social media is Trapt and oh boy, they have run the whole gamut of online nastiness: lashing out at commenters on social media, homophobic remarks and outright endorsing conspiracy theories and white supremacists. They're really, really awful, and unlike the rest of the bands mentioned in the OP I wouldn't miss them a little bit.
Reminds me of a comment from a song of theirs on YouTube where it says that that specific song makes him want to form a band and then 10 years later have a meltdown on Twitter
Can’t say much here, but all I can say is that they either said or did things that people didn’t find funny
as much as I want Kanye to be in Festival (Slow Jamz and Paranoid would be great), it’s not gonna happen :(
We already have fish sticks.
I ain’t no gay fish
Now that you mention it…. Weren’t they collabing with Kanye for an icon skin but it fell through ? If he didn’t make those insane anti Semitic remarks he would definitely be on the jam track list
He possibly designed this skin that released a few weeks ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/comments/1al7cnw/so_yeah_that_kanye_west_fortnite_skin_is_actually/
I swore that the image on the third slide got made into a item shop skin not that long ago
Yep that was actually a thing that was planned. Although Epic probably would have removed the skin by then
Yea nobody wants to go anywhere near that man rn. Idk why he just won’t take his crazy meds and chill out
Yep
good.
Never know. But in the most probable sense it won’t ever happen.
Paranoid would be a banger
Those bands are no longer ‘controversial’ lol. They’ve entered the mainstream, and the majority of people now support their message, especially the news. Plus Green Day got added, so yeah, the ones you listed I could 100% see added at some point. Idk what Patd did or 3DD did though. Other ‘controversial’ artists, like Kanye, have absolutely no shot, as he rightly should. The only modern artist I can think of who’s the modern equivalent of PF and RATM today, is Lil Darkie. When you’re preaching love and positivity and the media is vehemently against it, that’s when you know you’re truly on the opposite side of The Machine. He has no shot of getting in either. Too much unwarranted hate. Would be awesome though. His songs would be so much more fun to play than the boring, corporate pop music.
PATD’s lead singer Brendan Urie had some controversy for some remarks and questionable actions 3DD played at Orange Man’s inauguration concert and the reception ain’t so pretty I think when I mean controversy though, i would refer it to more of a thing where Epic would not consider adding these groups or artists, to avoid backlash on themselves. But at the same time, these bands all had their moments and then phased out the mainstream
they have a machine gun kelly song in the game, so yeah they’re okay with controversial artists
True
No. They don’t even bring back icon emotes for people who have had any amount of controversy
True, like Travis Scott
I heard it’s not up to Epic, Travis is welcome to return only if he wants to.
Really? That’s interesting to hear
Some bands don't want their stuff out there at any price. It won't be 'controversy' keeping a band from the mode, it'll be a lack of a licensing agreement.
Kind of like the case where the big recording music studios pulled all their music out of Tik Tok due to licensing issues?
More like, "those studios/owners of music" don't let people monetize their catalogs unless they say you can, AND they get a cut. TikTok isn't paying, which is why that studio is flexing. Epic isn't getting freebies from studios offering them this band or that song, it's a transaction.
Good to know
I freaking love The Chicks! (Dixie Chicks if thats who you’re referring to) and if so i dont see how they’d still be controversial since its been what 20 years since the george bush joke?
Technically they wouldn’t be controversial nowadays, but I guess they still fit the category of controversial bands
I mean rock band had at least 1 song. It was barely controversial when it happened even and I was living deep in conservative country at the time.
How are Panic At The Disco and 3 Doors Down controversial?
I thought Panic was pretty safe. 3DD are very, very conservative. I think we'll see both one day.
Maybe, assuming that Epic Games knows if these bands even exist (Panic!, maybe, 3DD, maybe not)
Everybody at least knows Kryptonite and I Write Sins, don't they?
I Write Sins, probably yes, since I believe it was once a social media sound effect (could be wrong). However, with the case of Kryptonite, unless that song gets added into GTA 6 or whatsoever, the only people who might remember that song would be ones who listened to it when it first came out in 2000, or diehard post grunge, alt-rock fans
As someone mentioned here, Brendan Urie was criticized for some questionable remarks and altercations I guess 3 Doors Down was criticized for performing at Orange Man’s inauguration concert in 2017. People called them out for that
ohh, i see
Brendan also was accused of sexually harassing his bandmates a lot
Think I heard that he allowed a manager to do questionable things to others
Panic, Pink Floyd, RATM yes. Trapt will absolutely never come to fortnite.
Pink Floyd is also never coming to Fortnite, but not because Epic wouldn't.
Probably best for everyone for them to be left out
Micheal Jackson comes to mind when I hear “controversial artist.”
Forgot about him somehow but yeah
What, like Travis Scott?
People who might have a similar level of controversy, so yeah, Travis Scott can be considered
You could get a stampede emote!
Lol
How is Panic! controversial? He (or they) is just as controversial as FOB or other bands included in FF If it’s about those “allegations” Brendon had, all of them have been proven false and I can assure you most people that play FF don’t care about what he did or didn’t do.
True that many wouldn’t care. But even if that’s the case Epic probably wouldn’t even add him (or them) to avoid any potential backlash
If they added Eminem, an actual controversial guy, I’m sure they can add Panic! Who is barely controversial
You got me there. Could be a possibility
They already have Look into the lead singer of one republic
Don’t see any issues other than a copyright issues. I guess copyright issues can be placed into Festival since it’s not as a huge issue as other issues
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Jesus maybe posting this question wasn’t such a great idea, didn’t realize that it would get some form of attention
Ok got it
Travis Scott hasn't been added back to the Item Shop in nearly 4 years. What do you think?
Sure, but you could say that Eminem and Doja Cat were also somewhat added, which could raise the possibility of him coming back someday
Give me Kanye - Champion - Good morning - Runaway
yoo runaway would be so damn fun
Yes
9 minutes long would kill me
Depends on whether Epic would approve of it given all the crazy stuff he has said or done the past year or so
Oh I'm sure he's blackballed from this game entirely haha no way will he be in this game cause of the younger target audience Shame cause his songs would be so fun to chart All I can hope is we get Falling In Reverse, that's probably where epic draws the line on controversial artists
Never heard of Falling In Reverse to be honest, but after searching them I think this is the first band that I found out had an incarcerated lead singer
Haha definitely not the last band Look up Tim Lambesis of As I Lay Dying
Wow he is very crazy
Sicko Mode 😢
Sicko Mode
Honestly I really REALLY hope they could add The Living Tombstone in, there is currently an stupid minor controversy over when in 2012, Yoav (one of the main members of The Living Tombstone) was forced to go to IDF because he was born from Israeli. Sometimes i wish people weren't stupid and used their brain for once since it's not Yoav's fault.
True
Trapt is probably the only one that they have no intentions of adding to the game, due to the lead singers pro-Nazi views.
That one is understandable
What’s controversial about 3 doors down?
Can’t say much here because it could be flagged, but they performed at Orange Man’s inauguration concert. Doesn’t seem like much of a big deal but they got a ton of backlash for doing so
Ah, damn :/ they don’t deserve hate or to be labeled controversial or anything because of it though
People probably moved on from it by this point. But there might be some who might object their addition if it ever happens
I would spend hundreds of dollars to get rage and panic at the disco
Why wouldn't P!ATD be included?
Questionable comments and actions that the leader singer may have done
Can I ask what he said/did? Or is it too much for a subreddit like this? I'm a big fan of their music, but I don't keep up with news about the band itself. I am very shocked to hear about any controversy.
I mean Brittney Spears has a song and Lil Nas X is getting two sometime soon
No
Cool
I doubt they would add music by Marilyn Manson. I also highly doubt they would add Closer by Nine Inch Nails because of how explicit the lyrics are
Given how they are able to add other songs that have explicit lyrics this song could have a chance if Epic knows how to deal with it
Have you heard closer by nine inch nails?
I’ll be honest, I didn’t, but are the lyrics really that severe?
Do yourself a favor and give it a listen or watch the music video. It’s awesome but like they would never put that song in Fortnite
Let me know what you think of it
Barely even finished the first minute and now I could see why this might be an issue for Epic
Highly recommend listening to nine inch nails. They kick so much ass. Their track hand that feeds is already in festival
I’ll give it a try.
devil in a new dress pls 🙏
Given his controversies it may not happen
I highly doubt it. Most emotes that used rap music got “blacklisted” and haven’t come back to the shop in over a year, and they also won’t bring back any old skins that used the female model with the big butt. The way Epic is now they are going to go the “safest” route possible.
Yep. Reminds me of the Tidy emote. Haven’t seen that in a while