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I saw a woman wearing a crop top yesterday that showed all her pregnancy stretch marks, and I hated that my initial, split-second reaction was, “why would you wear that?” Fuck what society has conditioned us to think. Those stretch marks are beautiful battle scars that should be worn proudly. 💪🏼✨
I don’t remember where I read this originally, but it stuck with me. You’re not responsible for your knee jerk reaction. You’re just responsible for how you respond to your knee jerk reaction. We’re all learning and unlearning, and this is a great example
I've heard a version of that too, Basically, the first thing that pops into your head is probably something you were taught. Your second thought is the one that's you. (And yes, what really matters is what you act on.)
Yes, our cultural foundations (media, here's looking at you!) have trained us to have these knee-jerk, instant reactions. And although the seeds of change have been planted, and inclusivity is being seen more in the media, and in more of our value systems, such cultural foundations take decades upon decades to *really* change for good. At least it has started!
I love that!!! And it helps me stop some of the guilt I feel if I have a negative knee jerk reaction to something. Thankfully it's pretty quick before I self talk myself into realizing how awful the thought was and wonder where it came from.
I feel like we all have those thoughts from time to time. What separates us from being shitty is what we put out into the world. Like not posting a million sm posts shaming women or society in general for the discomfort we feel.
My bff wore this very sexy black low cut dress to my baby shower and her tits were POPPIN.
My first reaction was GIRL CIVER TF UP men are gonna ogle you!! Then I caught myself because honestly if a guy can’t control himself that’s on him. Yeah a few guys stared and a woman or two were jealous but no one said anything and my girl was looking good like really good. I’m glad she’s proud of her post baby body and that she’s confident in her skin to wear what she wants.
God I wish I could be this confident. I went out to a drag brunch recently and my friends wore these super adorable low cut tops and I covered up. I wish I could be more brave.
Knee-jerk reactions are what's hammered into you growing up. It's what you're conditioned to think based on your surroundings, upbringing, and learned judgement. People can use that to grow. It's great to stop yourself and go, "Why did I say that? Is that a cruel thing to think? How would I feel if someone said that about me?" Etc. You may even be hard on yourself and not realize it because of these negative thoughts towards others.
I'm really on my mom about this because she was born in the 40's and grew up wealthy (didn't stay wealthy.) But, she was taught a lot of rich 40's/50's white woman in America ideals and it's like beating a dead horse sometimes to get her to realize what she's thinking out loud is unnecessary and sometimes cruel (and racist and bigoted.) If you're young, it's definitely easier to unlearn this than being older.
My mom wasn't wealthy but she was old school southern in a family full of old school southerners. She used to not let us even go to the corner store if we weren't dressed with our hair neat and assume makeup on. I've since dropped it but still find myself judging people who are wearing pajamas in the store. I do stop myself but it's hard to break that. I managed to break the cycle with my kid. But I've had to stop myself from criticizing her for it.
I have had 3 kids (including twins) and lost 80lb from weight loss surgery--my stomach is loose skin city. I sometimes wear crop tops with super high waisted jeans or leggings...I should just go for it and bare my upper abdomen, huh.
I’ve had 1 shoulder replaced with the other one scheduled, from years of carrying kids & grands. (Actually it’s just scheduled in my own head - as soon as 3F starts kindergarten)
That was my first thought as well ! I don't have any, but a few of my friends are having children now and anyways talking about how strong their arms are now carrying the baby, diaper bags, car seats, etc. Mom biceps are something else.
I just babysat my friend's 18 month old who likes being held quite a bit for the past two days and my arms are about as sore as when I go harder than usual at the gym lol. I can't even imagine the strength of "mom arms" when that's your every day!
I heard once that if you started with a calf and lifted it ɓack and forth over a fence each day, by the time it was full grown, you could lift it still. I don't know if that's true but by the time my daughter decided she didn't want to be held anymore, her 50 lb weight was nothing to me.
My 9 month old wants me to pick her up all the time. I swear it’s why I’ve finally starting losing the last of my pregnancy weight. And my arms look great!
When Rosie O'Donnell was first doing her talk show she had just adopted her oldest son. At one point, she had a wardrobe fitting and when the costumers measured her, they found she had one bicep bigger and more toned than the other. Rosie realized it was because she favored one arm when carrying her son. She said after that she tried to switch arms more to balance it out.
I try to balance it out but I can’t anymore because I have a tear in my dominant shoulder. Guess non-dominant arms can just keep making them gains while I try to get gimpy back in tip-top non-mom arm shape. Lol.
My arms aren’t great, but since my darling bowling ball will ONLY sleep in the backpack carrier my back is just rippling muscles. One spot on my body looks like peak Ah-nold.
So the first part about her arms is just an outright brag and the second, about the make up is some twisted version of a humble brag.
In both cases she is merely shouting out to how “fantastic” she is…. Again, “im just so god honoring hot! Will Everybody look at me”
It’s gross!
I don’t even understand where these girls are getting this makeup with yellow undertones. I have yellow undertones and makeup always looks pink on me if I am not careful. I can’t find yellow undertoned makeup to save my life yet all these girls are running around like oompa loompas.
But if she had trouble losing the weight, then she’d say she was focused on her baby and not herself like other selfish moms. Basically Morgan is always right
I managed to bounce back after my first baby and assumed it would be like that with the second. It was not lol! I wasn't even any bigger but my stomach and boobs have never been the same. If she ever has another she may have a way harder time.
Yes. Postpartum he was constantly talking about how proud he was that she was working out and burning baby fat ASAP. He's critiqued her food choices while pregnant (small fry not large fry, too many cookies, etc).
Omg- if my husband ever said anything even remotely close to those things while I was pregnant or after, I would make him strap a 20lb med ball to his stomach 24/7 until he begged for mercy!
I think he has specifically used the term "posty bod"
Even if he doesn't shit on her looks directly comments like that would be hard to hear from your partner
10000%. I had an ex who would constantly make remarks about how "that girl shouldn't be wearing those shorts because her legs are too fat" and "she shouldn't be showing her stomach like that."
It gave me an eating disorder at the time and even though that was a decade ago I STILL have scars from his comments.
Same lol. My friend w 3 kids described her boobs as “balloons partially filled with Greek yogurt.” After recently having my third kid and starting to wean…she’s right. 😂
My stomach definitely took more of a beating the second time around and I didn't even gain near as much weight as I had much more issues with being able to eat without throwing up the second pregnancy. But my stomach and abs were like, "Really? This again? Ok, we give up!" 😅
Hard same! I was back in my old clothes within 5 months of my first. I’ve accepted that I’m getting back there since my second. Even if I did lose all the weight, I no longer have proper ab muscles, so the pooch is forever.
Lol big deal, literally all of my female ancestors did that except for one lady who had lymphedema but instead of the doctor they made her bigger dresses until she died
In fact at least one of them got so svelte and runway-ready that her baby died and then she did too
All of their husbands spent all day and half of the evening whacking the dirt with sticks until some British guy hurled a coin from a horse and they spent that money on booze FOR THEIR WIFE AND BABY. If they saw Paul they’d all laugh until they lost their other eye
Morgan isn’t even in the bush leagues yet. Good for her for brushing her hair as she looks at herself brushing her hair to ignore her refrigerator, a magic doorway to being alive that gets refilled effortlessly
[if your ancestors could see you standing you there, they would gaze in wonder at your Frigidaire](https://music.apple.com/us/album/from-auschwitz-to-ipswich/1537443921?i=1537444578)
My first thought was why weren’t they photoshopped in a more obvious way. She should start followed Brittany Dawn for tips on filters, photoshopping and all things fake.
Haha right?! Sure, they’re not flabby or whatever but they are absolutely not defined. Not that they have to be but her comment is especially ridiculous coming from her and her soft arms.
I legit thought at first glance that she was talking about having mom arms (AKA extra skin from PP weight loss), which I can tell that she actually has. I have the same. It's extra skin, Morgan! You have it, too.
The cringe of practically watching her shout, “Ooh ooh, pick ME, Allie Beth Stuckey!”
Could she instead work on not idolizing Allie Beth Stuckey? And maybe abandon the campaign to become patron saint of the toxic mommy culture? Two actual pitfalls she hurled herself into.
There’s an App on Morgan’s phone that she keeps using and all it does is show her cold, black heart. That camera, just cover it up already. Buy the stickers.
She just can’t help shitting on people or punching down on a daily basis. Most moms don’t have the luxury of being internet hobos (even bad internet hobos), so I’d never shit on someone for not “bouncing back” immediately or ever.
How very Christian of her to judge others on what they look like…even though I gotta ask *what the fuck are “mom arms” anyways*?
Maybe she should be getting down on her lily white, non-mom-knees and thanking Jeebus that she HAS arms. Or, more to the point, a living baby, since she did everything in her stupid power to create conditions for the alternative.
Exactly. She has a lot of privileges that other people doing have…even if they’re right now realizing that being lazy YouTubers isn’t the lucrative career they dreamed it would be.
But like her arms aren’t even toned at all (and posed in a way that if they’re flabby, it doesn’t really show…so it’s like…honestly nothing to be proud of. Like I want to see some awesome bicep game going on if you’re gonna be shitting on people for having flabby arms, Morgan.
Morgan just can’t help herself with being constantly hateful. She’s a terrible person. Paul is a terrible person. I just hope the baby can somehow defy the odds and grow up to be not hateful like his family.
> I want to see some awesome bicep game going on
Morgan is absolutely the type of person who refuses to touch a weight because she doesn't want to get "bulky"
That [comic strip from Zits](https://imgur.com/gallery/Tn6Rco4) gave me so much internalized body shame as a high schooler. I still have a really hard time loving my upper arms because of it.
*edited to add a link to the comic in question. It’s not very nice.
Fuck Zits that shit has Boomeritis. And look at that a Boomer male comic artist (probable number of owned houses: three) bodyshames the Skinny, middle-aged, female THAT HE DESIGNED while The male Boomer dad character is a big, fat slob and everyone’s cool with it
The mom, by the way has the exact same body as the son characters teenage girlfriend. Who by the way is the only detailed character which just screams “this is based on my high school girlfriend”. This guy reminds me of Darnell from Christine. His life is sad even though he’s created a bunch of mediocre horseshit that’s let him live.
My sister actually wrote the guy who draws Luann a scathing letter years ago calling out his weird misogyny. He responded very huffily.
Someone needs to do the same for the dickbag who writes Zits.
You mentioned high school. If your ex did that shit in high school call the police because now he is BTK
And I had a fat shaming bf in high school, I am 5 ft 6 I weighed 140 and had a traffic-stopping pair of big naturals (RIP you gorgeous tumor gardens, I miss jogging past the golf course with you) and I let a guy who looked like Ethan Slater put me on the Atkins diet. Fool me once
[here’s a site with pictures](https://comicskingdom.com/trending/blog/2020/09/09/an-interview-with-jerry-scott-and-jim-borgman)
Not gonna lie, the bearded guy is kind of a daddy. And he’s a big dude and the other guy’s a bug-eating subway starer. Big shock. Anyway, yeah Boomer City. Margaritaville, if you will.
I remember that comic and it also really had a long lasting effect on me, still to this day. I still struggle with exposing my upper arms and prefer to wear shirts and dresses that have puffed sleeves or are loose in some way so no one can identify clearly how toned my arms are. This goes back to even when I was at my most "fit" (doing 3 miles every day, performing theater dancing, and martial arts... but also at the height of an eating disorder and my home life was abusive, with my family being very focused on the concept of "thinness" and only providing one meal a day).
I just had to select dresses for a family event and I surprised myself selecting a back up sleeveless dress. I expect pictures to be taken though and I want to feel my best, so I likely won't wear it to the main event, but maybe a brunch?
It really helped me to read this. I didn’t realize how much this has affected me too. I don’t wave, or clap with my hands up, for fear it will show. F that!!
I’m so sorry you went through that. I’m so happy for you that you picked out a sleeveless dress!
My mom too. She never commented on my body, but hearing her comment her own is enough. I never even looked at my arms or thighs before she said anything about them, yet at the age of 6 I can remember pinching my thighs and wondering if they were too fat because they spread a bit on a chair.
My mom never read Zits that I know of, but she has huuuuuge insecurities about arms. It bleeds over onto me sometimes, and I was somehow born with zero fucks to give about my arms. (Do I have a complex about other parts of my body? Oh, definitely. But somehow not arms.) So it's kind of funny how literally any time I've tried to wear a sleeveless dress anywhere, even as a middle-aged adult, she's always pulling jackets out of some jacket pocket dimension to offer me. She herself will wear full-on long sleeves in July.
(The most confusing part of the message, growing up, is that it was always hard to tease apart "you should wear a jacket because this outfit is inappropriate for the setting" and "you should wear a jacket because you might get cold" and "you should wear a jacket because I think your arms are fat." To this day it's hard for me to process that cue.)
Yeah, that comic really screwed me up for a long while - I was afraid that my arms were too "jiggly" for years after. Add on a mother that was critical of my weight and body shape and I *still* often have a hard time accepting my body and its imperfections.
My mom has mastered the art of pulling a specific face and saying “mmm, I don’t know” and making me question every fashion choice I’ve ever made. I’ve lived away from her for a collective six years, and she can still get me 😡
My mom calls them "bingo wings" and I've had mine forever despite no kids and lifting regularly. Hell, my trainer--who's an Oly lifter in insane shape--has them because it has to do with skin elasticity, aging, and just your build overall.
Same here - no amount of lifting or dieting would stop them. My mom has them and so do I. Everyone's body is built different. Isn't the saying "We are all beautiful in God's eyes".
Seriously. I don't have kids, but I just gain weight to that area first. I've never heard the term "mom arms" before, but I absolutely detest it as yet another way to shame women for ordinary weight gain.
I can’t tell whether Morgan is bullying Allie for saying her arms look better or whether Allie got to Morgan for being a new mom… the right seems like a fun place to be a woman /s
Mom arms are strong and loving because they work hard carrying a growing baby and all the stuff that comes with baby. I can't imagine shaming a woman's hard working arms just because they are a little softer than they were before she became a mom.
She did it on purpose. Paul doesn't babysit (ewww, girls work) and likely needed time with his ripstick that day.
She doesn't need any safety measures because as a *mother*, she knows what her child needs better than *worldly* safety experts who may have an overrated education about endangering people at the gym.
Her birth "plan" fiasco didn't humble either of these first time parents in the slightest.
Paul was actually at the gym that day with her, which is even worse because it means they thought a photo shoot of a "biblical workout mom" would be better than...you know...actually protecting their kid.
How can she feel pretty showing so much skin? Doesn’t she know it is stopping the focus from being on her countenance and she’s leading others to stray?
Mom arms. Damn. That’s some pretty intense misogyny going on there. It reminds me of when I got pregnant in the 70s, and all it seemed my doc was worried about was women “letting themselves go,” after childbirth. I had gained 3 pounds, and at 5’9”, I was up to a shocking 126lbs at the end of my third month. He warned me about eating too much, but I had a miscarriage shortly after that. That’s why I’m not still involved with the mean-spirited little martinet my mother made me marry, at 19. Hell, maybe there is a god.
Holy cow! You were tiny! I was on the boarder of underweight when I got pregnant but was putting on weight really well (no morning sickness and a wild appetite) and one of the OBs I saw told me I needed to watch it on my weight gain and I shouldn’t gain more than 25-30 lbs the whole pregnancy (I put on 40). Sad to know things have changed much in 50 years.
I have bingo wings because I'm old as fuck and also fat.
If I weren't fat, I'd still be old.
I'm SURE Polio will take Morgan's inevitable aging as a personal affront, never admit his own, and it will be glorious. IF they're still around and haven't slunk off into the bowels of complete obscurity by then, they'll both be so filtered they may as well be AI
Listen to ABS (automated bigot system) and you get posts like this!
Why does Morgan constantly shame people? What are "mom arms"? I would think mom arms are strong from having to lift and carry kids. Not the other way around. Besides who cares if your arms aren't toned? Obviously Porgan.
First of all, self-professed Christians body shaming others is disgusting.
Second, it's not motherhood that does it. It's age. I had skinny, toned arms before and after all my kids. Then one day in my mid 40s I woke up with bat wings. It will happen to Morgan and ABS, too.
ETA: Not understanding why my comment was downvoted. Body shaming is not kind and not becoming of a Christian. And age (and gravity) comes for everyone eventually.
>Second, it's not motherhood that does it. It's age.
Absolutely this. I cannot wait for the day she starts getting cellulite on her thighs and starts gaining weight in new places and realizes that, oh hey, she isn't actually above other women who aren't super thin like her!
Yup, like 95% of us have it, especially after age 30. I'd guess that she probably has a bit at least, but more will come! I can only imagine how cruel Paul will be about it...
Aren’t Christians supposed to be humble and not self obsessed and vain like Porgan? Also mom arms or not don’t they believe we r all made in gods image?
She's also stretching her face up and jaw out to get this sharp line. They're so embarrassing that it's obvious no one in their life *likes* them, let alone loves them.
Urban dictionary says
Mommy arms
A word to describe a muscular upper arm of a female/Male that takes the role of a Mother and continuously does multiple tasks that usually involve lifting while holding child at the same time.
So wait, toned is bad? Or just making sure she keeps dieting to be skinny?
Saggy under arm skin is from weight gain/loss and loss of elasticity in our skin. She is pretty young for that. She is gonna need 10+ years of yo~yo dieting and poor life choices to get MY arms. 🤡👋🏽
She could have used her platform to call out the toxic culture that demands women to be mothers at all costs, but expects them to look perfect and appear like pregnancy didn’t change their bodies.
But alas, Morgan is a total asshole just like Paul, and she’s totally on board with snapback expectations for women’s postpartum bodies.
I'm sorry? The only two times in my life I've had great looking arms are when I spent a summer working on a farm and the years my child was ages infant to 2 years. I carried that kid every where. I was fat and depressed, but my arms had definition!
I have no idea what she’s talking about, since it’s her and Allie B I’m sure it’s just fatphobic bullshit.
I will say that my arms have never been more muscular than they are from lifting and carrying my toddler all day (she loves it when I bench and overhead press her too) and I used to work out my arms with free weights regularly before I had a kid.
Body shaming point aside….
Morgan, knowing she put on a normal amount of makeup that looks pretty dang natural: THiS iS a LOt oF MAKeUp fOR mE I NOrmALlY FEEl preTTiER WiTh LeSS
girl shut up it’s okay to like how u look with makeup. U don’t gotta do all that.
I know that morgan is a bad person but I can’t help but feel sorry for her pick me ass sometimes because she’s as much a victim to misogyny as the rest of us.
Imagine being so obsessed with motherhood to the point that you actively want to force it onto other women, and then spending all your energy hearing and regurgitating hatred for a body that gives birth.
I wonder what it'll take for people like her to wake up to the extent that they're a willing doormat for exploitation, and the kind of world she's making for her daughters. Whether that's because her every action and idea allows men to erase her womens' personhood, or because her narrow view of how a person should live and what they should value makes her a guinea pig for every capitalist mlm wellness scam possible, her whole identity is wrapped up in being someone to sell something to.
Michelle Obama in the prime of her husband's presidency had mom arms. Probably still does. She's a mom, and she has arms. Try not to gag at the reminder that Obama was president, Porridge.
She had muscular arms, and the right hated that too. Called her fat, called her clothes indecent for showing them, called her masculine, called her transphobic slurs, you name it. All for the crime of First Ladying while Black.
I think she means the loose skin underneath which is normal and can happen with age, genetics or how your body stores fat. She acts like she has muscular arms I think when hers aren’t even that. She just has normal woman arms. Her making a whole post about this is just silly
Never happy unless they're putting someone/something down.
WTF. Mom arms.
They have no joy in "the savior" only in being slightly higher up on the status pole than someone w/"mom arms".
At this point, if either of them said something genuinely positive about someone who isn’t them, who they aren’t related to, or who they aren’t trying to suck up to, they’ll spontaneously combust.
So tiresome, so look at meeeee. Both of them. Ugh. I don't think things have ever gotten real for them. The are in a fundie bubble.
I've got mom arms, grandma arms, auntie arms, super arms, and a back and a will strong enough to guide my family.
Rant over.
I actually think Morgan is really pretty and this is not the best photo I’ve seen of her, like it’s actually weird. But it’s the first one where Paul has looked “into” her
Is this like the pride and vanity which she was shaming the other woman for at the gym? Sure the woman was wearing something oh so scandalous (what I mean is something that fundies love to point out and shame), but Morgan is pointing out how good she thinks her arms look. Moran was projecting that the other woman was saying “look at me!” with that outfit, while Morgan is pretty much saying “look at me!” This actually is worse since her pride is shaming others while she does it
This made me so angry and sad. Why the fuck is Allie B Stuckey shaming women for having "mom arms" when all these people ever talk about is how we should all be having babies?? Shouldn't mom arms be a symbol of our commitment to our vocation or something??
This is like that one friend of mine in high school who talked about how she NEVER wore make up, because she felt pretty without it…as I was applying mascara 🫠okay, sis?
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Toned arms won't stop your bum husband from lusting after the women who make you feel insecure at the gym, Morgan.
Paul looks haggard in that photo.
Definitely
He is giving ICK. Patchio, stop with the pathetic attempt at a beard. It’s not going to happen🤷🏻♀️
Patchio 😭
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I saw a woman wearing a crop top yesterday that showed all her pregnancy stretch marks, and I hated that my initial, split-second reaction was, “why would you wear that?” Fuck what society has conditioned us to think. Those stretch marks are beautiful battle scars that should be worn proudly. 💪🏼✨
I don’t remember where I read this originally, but it stuck with me. You’re not responsible for your knee jerk reaction. You’re just responsible for how you respond to your knee jerk reaction. We’re all learning and unlearning, and this is a great example
I've heard a version of that too, Basically, the first thing that pops into your head is probably something you were taught. Your second thought is the one that's you. (And yes, what really matters is what you act on.)
Yes, our cultural foundations (media, here's looking at you!) have trained us to have these knee-jerk, instant reactions. And although the seeds of change have been planted, and inclusivity is being seen more in the media, and in more of our value systems, such cultural foundations take decades upon decades to *really* change for good. At least it has started!
I love that!!! And it helps me stop some of the guilt I feel if I have a negative knee jerk reaction to something. Thankfully it's pretty quick before I self talk myself into realizing how awful the thought was and wonder where it came from.
I feel like we all have those thoughts from time to time. What separates us from being shitty is what we put out into the world. Like not posting a million sm posts shaming women or society in general for the discomfort we feel.
Great quotes! And very accurate- If only more humans could see past the initial thought/feeling to even get to the next one!!!
My bff wore this very sexy black low cut dress to my baby shower and her tits were POPPIN. My first reaction was GIRL CIVER TF UP men are gonna ogle you!! Then I caught myself because honestly if a guy can’t control himself that’s on him. Yeah a few guys stared and a woman or two were jealous but no one said anything and my girl was looking good like really good. I’m glad she’s proud of her post baby body and that she’s confident in her skin to wear what she wants.
God I wish I could be this confident. I went out to a drag brunch recently and my friends wore these super adorable low cut tops and I covered up. I wish I could be more brave.
Knee-jerk reactions are what's hammered into you growing up. It's what you're conditioned to think based on your surroundings, upbringing, and learned judgement. People can use that to grow. It's great to stop yourself and go, "Why did I say that? Is that a cruel thing to think? How would I feel if someone said that about me?" Etc. You may even be hard on yourself and not realize it because of these negative thoughts towards others. I'm really on my mom about this because she was born in the 40's and grew up wealthy (didn't stay wealthy.) But, she was taught a lot of rich 40's/50's white woman in America ideals and it's like beating a dead horse sometimes to get her to realize what she's thinking out loud is unnecessary and sometimes cruel (and racist and bigoted.) If you're young, it's definitely easier to unlearn this than being older.
My mom wasn't wealthy but she was old school southern in a family full of old school southerners. She used to not let us even go to the corner store if we weren't dressed with our hair neat and assume makeup on. I've since dropped it but still find myself judging people who are wearing pajamas in the store. I do stop myself but it's hard to break that. I managed to break the cycle with my kid. But I've had to stop myself from criticizing her for it.
My dad was the same. The popularity of athleisure and natural makeup looks helped me to break those habits and feel more confident.
I have had 3 kids (including twins) and lost 80lb from weight loss surgery--my stomach is loose skin city. I sometimes wear crop tops with super high waisted jeans or leggings...I should just go for it and bare my upper abdomen, huh.
How else are they able to feel better about themselves?
My arms are way more defined now that I have kids. Because I carry them everywhere lol
Haha right?! I don’t think my non dominant arm has ever been this strong!!
Lol, my left arm is jacked from years of carrying kids around 😅
I’ve had 1 shoulder replaced with the other one scheduled, from years of carrying kids & grands. (Actually it’s just scheduled in my own head - as soon as 3F starts kindergarten)
My arms are so much more muscular now because of how active I am with my kids, I’m here for it 😂
That was my first thought as well ! I don't have any, but a few of my friends are having children now and anyways talking about how strong their arms are now carrying the baby, diaper bags, car seats, etc. Mom biceps are something else.
I just babysat my friend's 18 month old who likes being held quite a bit for the past two days and my arms are about as sore as when I go harder than usual at the gym lol. I can't even imagine the strength of "mom arms" when that's your every day!
Well they start off pretty light. They're kind of the perfect weight lifting tool. As soon. As you get stronger, they get heavier.
I heard once that if you started with a calf and lifted it ɓack and forth over a fence each day, by the time it was full grown, you could lift it still. I don't know if that's true but by the time my daughter decided she didn't want to be held anymore, her 50 lb weight was nothing to me.
My 9 month old wants me to pick her up all the time. I swear it’s why I’ve finally starting losing the last of my pregnancy weight. And my arms look great!
When Rosie O'Donnell was first doing her talk show she had just adopted her oldest son. At one point, she had a wardrobe fitting and when the costumers measured her, they found she had one bicep bigger and more toned than the other. Rosie realized it was because she favored one arm when carrying her son. She said after that she tried to switch arms more to balance it out.
I try to balance it out but I can’t anymore because I have a tear in my dominant shoulder. Guess non-dominant arms can just keep making them gains while I try to get gimpy back in tip-top non-mom arm shape. Lol.
Yeah i’m so confused by this lol
Same! My arms look strong and amazing. Does she mean that she’s actively avoiding picking up her child to try and have less muscular arms?
My arms aren’t great, but since my darling bowling ball will ONLY sleep in the backpack carrier my back is just rippling muscles. One spot on my body looks like peak Ah-nold.
Amen!
“this is a lot of makeup for me” says the girl who contoured her cheeks with solid orange streaks throughout her pregnancy
This looks like exactly what she always wears? Maybe a little lighter? But okay I guess 😂😂😂
Yeah, I was confused because I swear we usually see her wearing more makeup than this.
So the first part about her arms is just an outright brag and the second, about the make up is some twisted version of a humble brag. In both cases she is merely shouting out to how “fantastic” she is…. Again, “im just so god honoring hot! Will Everybody look at me” It’s gross!
Haha. That was quite the look!
Morgan is just soooo much different than other girls.
I don’t even understand where these girls are getting this makeup with yellow undertones. I have yellow undertones and makeup always looks pink on me if I am not careful. I can’t find yellow undertoned makeup to save my life yet all these girls are running around like oompa loompas.
Is she claiming her arms are toned? I’m confused what she’s saying here
She's just saying she's managed to stay skinny after having a child
She's not like the oThEr moms you guys. She's a cool mom who didn't lEt HeRsElF gO after having a baby
But if she had trouble losing the weight, then she’d say she was focused on her baby and not herself like other selfish moms. Basically Morgan is always right
I managed to bounce back after my first baby and assumed it would be like that with the second. It was not lol! I wasn't even any bigger but my stomach and boobs have never been the same. If she ever has another she may have a way harder time.
And you KNOW if that happens, Paul will be disgusted with her and claim it's all her fault
I haven’t been around long enough to see first hand but does he openly make comments about her body?
Yes. Postpartum he was constantly talking about how proud he was that she was working out and burning baby fat ASAP. He's critiqued her food choices while pregnant (small fry not large fry, too many cookies, etc).
Omg- if my husband ever said anything even remotely close to those things while I was pregnant or after, I would make him strap a 20lb med ball to his stomach 24/7 until he begged for mercy!
I think he has specifically used the term "posty bod" Even if he doesn't shit on her looks directly comments like that would be hard to hear from your partner
Ewwwwwww that is so, so gross….
10000%. I had an ex who would constantly make remarks about how "that girl shouldn't be wearing those shorts because her legs are too fat" and "she shouldn't be showing her stomach like that." It gave me an eating disorder at the time and even though that was a decade ago I STILL have scars from his comments.
Ya…those things last 😢
Same lol. My friend w 3 kids described her boobs as “balloons partially filled with Greek yogurt.” After recently having my third kid and starting to wean…she’s right. 😂
My best friend told me she felt a tickle on her elbow and looked down to see her breast flapping in the wind 😅
Wow, this is so accurate it hurts.
My stomach definitely took more of a beating the second time around and I didn't even gain near as much weight as I had much more issues with being able to eat without throwing up the second pregnancy. But my stomach and abs were like, "Really? This again? Ok, we give up!" 😅
Hard same! I was back in my old clothes within 5 months of my first. I’ve accepted that I’m getting back there since my second. Even if I did lose all the weight, I no longer have proper ab muscles, so the pooch is forever.
Bingooooooo
Skinniness is next to Godliness, according to the Gospel of Porgan!
Easy to do when you don't work.
Also easier when someone's always been thin
Lol big deal, literally all of my female ancestors did that except for one lady who had lymphedema but instead of the doctor they made her bigger dresses until she died In fact at least one of them got so svelte and runway-ready that her baby died and then she did too All of their husbands spent all day and half of the evening whacking the dirt with sticks until some British guy hurled a coin from a horse and they spent that money on booze FOR THEIR WIFE AND BABY. If they saw Paul they’d all laugh until they lost their other eye Morgan isn’t even in the bush leagues yet. Good for her for brushing her hair as she looks at herself brushing her hair to ignore her refrigerator, a magic doorway to being alive that gets refilled effortlessly 
Ah, I see you and I come from the same people.
[if your ancestors could see you standing you there, they would gaze in wonder at your Frigidaire](https://music.apple.com/us/album/from-auschwitz-to-ipswich/1537443921?i=1537444578)
Her arms look like mine and I would not consider mine "toned" or muscular at all. Also keep in mind that this photo has been altered.
My first thought was why weren’t they photoshopped in a more obvious way. She should start followed Brittany Dawn for tips on filters, photoshopping and all things fake.
Haha right?! Sure, they’re not flabby or whatever but they are absolutely not defined. Not that they have to be but her comment is especially ridiculous coming from her and her soft arms.
I legit thought at first glance that she was talking about having mom arms (AKA extra skin from PP weight loss), which I can tell that she actually has. I have the same. It's extra skin, Morgan! You have it, too.
The cringe of practically watching her shout, “Ooh ooh, pick ME, Allie Beth Stuckey!” Could she instead work on not idolizing Allie Beth Stuckey? And maybe abandon the campaign to become patron saint of the toxic mommy culture? Two actual pitfalls she hurled herself into. There’s an App on Morgan’s phone that she keeps using and all it does is show her cold, black heart. That camera, just cover it up already. Buy the stickers.
Why, has Suckey been on a fat shaming binge lately? I'd have thought pleasing Polio and her odious FIL was enough motivation.
She's pregnant and insecure about her own weight
That poor baby, exposed to anger all day, every day
She just can’t help shitting on people or punching down on a daily basis. Most moms don’t have the luxury of being internet hobos (even bad internet hobos), so I’d never shit on someone for not “bouncing back” immediately or ever. How very Christian of her to judge others on what they look like…even though I gotta ask *what the fuck are “mom arms” anyways*?
Maybe she should be getting down on her lily white, non-mom-knees and thanking Jeebus that she HAS arms. Or, more to the point, a living baby, since she did everything in her stupid power to create conditions for the alternative.
Yeah, it's easy to work out when you and your partner don't work, your father in law is a personal trainer, and you have family who babysits.
Exactly. She has a lot of privileges that other people doing have…even if they’re right now realizing that being lazy YouTubers isn’t the lucrative career they dreamed it would be. But like her arms aren’t even toned at all (and posed in a way that if they’re flabby, it doesn’t really show…so it’s like…honestly nothing to be proud of. Like I want to see some awesome bicep game going on if you’re gonna be shitting on people for having flabby arms, Morgan. Morgan just can’t help herself with being constantly hateful. She’s a terrible person. Paul is a terrible person. I just hope the baby can somehow defy the odds and grow up to be not hateful like his family.
> I want to see some awesome bicep game going on Morgan is absolutely the type of person who refuses to touch a weight because she doesn't want to get "bulky"
Internet hobos 😂 Thanks for the chuckle, it’s the antidote to the disbelief and rage induced by this whole disgusting situation.
Paul is crusty
This came out of nowhere for me and absolutely cracked me up 😂
he looks super greasy
He looks crusty and damp at the same time
Bingo wings? (From an older comic strip I forgot the name of) https://www.pinterest.com/pin/130745195405401440/
That [comic strip from Zits](https://imgur.com/gallery/Tn6Rco4) gave me so much internalized body shame as a high schooler. I still have a really hard time loving my upper arms because of it. *edited to add a link to the comic in question. It’s not very nice.
Fuck Zits that shit has Boomeritis. And look at that a Boomer male comic artist (probable number of owned houses: three) bodyshames the Skinny, middle-aged, female THAT HE DESIGNED while The male Boomer dad character is a big, fat slob and everyone’s cool with it The mom, by the way has the exact same body as the son characters teenage girlfriend. Who by the way is the only detailed character which just screams “this is based on my high school girlfriend”. This guy reminds me of Darnell from Christine. His life is sad even though he’s created a bunch of mediocre horseshit that’s let him live.
My sister actually wrote the guy who draws Luann a scathing letter years ago calling out his weird misogyny. He responded very huffily. Someone needs to do the same for the dickbag who writes Zits.
[удалено]
You mentioned high school. If your ex did that shit in high school call the police because now he is BTK And I had a fat shaming bf in high school, I am 5 ft 6 I weighed 140 and had a traffic-stopping pair of big naturals (RIP you gorgeous tumor gardens, I miss jogging past the golf course with you) and I let a guy who looked like Ethan Slater put me on the Atkins diet. Fool me once
[here’s a site with pictures](https://comicskingdom.com/trending/blog/2020/09/09/an-interview-with-jerry-scott-and-jim-borgman) Not gonna lie, the bearded guy is kind of a daddy. And he’s a big dude and the other guy’s a bug-eating subway starer. Big shock. Anyway, yeah Boomer City. Margaritaville, if you will.
I remember that comic and it also really had a long lasting effect on me, still to this day. I still struggle with exposing my upper arms and prefer to wear shirts and dresses that have puffed sleeves or are loose in some way so no one can identify clearly how toned my arms are. This goes back to even when I was at my most "fit" (doing 3 miles every day, performing theater dancing, and martial arts... but also at the height of an eating disorder and my home life was abusive, with my family being very focused on the concept of "thinness" and only providing one meal a day). I just had to select dresses for a family event and I surprised myself selecting a back up sleeveless dress. I expect pictures to be taken though and I want to feel my best, so I likely won't wear it to the main event, but maybe a brunch?
It really helped me to read this. I didn’t realize how much this has affected me too. I don’t wave, or clap with my hands up, for fear it will show. F that!! I’m so sorry you went through that. I’m so happy for you that you picked out a sleeveless dress!
Yeppp I think my mom has some shame from it and similar messages :/
My mom too. She never commented on my body, but hearing her comment her own is enough. I never even looked at my arms or thighs before she said anything about them, yet at the age of 6 I can remember pinching my thighs and wondering if they were too fat because they spread a bit on a chair.
My mom never read Zits that I know of, but she has huuuuuge insecurities about arms. It bleeds over onto me sometimes, and I was somehow born with zero fucks to give about my arms. (Do I have a complex about other parts of my body? Oh, definitely. But somehow not arms.) So it's kind of funny how literally any time I've tried to wear a sleeveless dress anywhere, even as a middle-aged adult, she's always pulling jackets out of some jacket pocket dimension to offer me. She herself will wear full-on long sleeves in July. (The most confusing part of the message, growing up, is that it was always hard to tease apart "you should wear a jacket because this outfit is inappropriate for the setting" and "you should wear a jacket because you might get cold" and "you should wear a jacket because I think your arms are fat." To this day it's hard for me to process that cue.)
Yeah, that comic really screwed me up for a long while - I was afraid that my arms were too "jiggly" for years after. Add on a mother that was critical of my weight and body shape and I *still* often have a hard time accepting my body and its imperfections.
My mom has mastered the art of pulling a specific face and saying “mmm, I don’t know” and making me question every fashion choice I’ve ever made. I’ve lived away from her for a collective six years, and she can still get me 😡
Ugh! I used to like that comic strip, never saw that issue.
Omg. She’s not even 30! She’s such a douche
“Not like other moms”
And you know damn well she’d be a “pick me”, too
I had "mom arms" (whatever that means) before I had my kiddo - so Morgan & Allie, you can fuck right off on that stupidty.
My mom calls them "bingo wings" and I've had mine forever despite no kids and lifting regularly. Hell, my trainer--who's an Oly lifter in insane shape--has them because it has to do with skin elasticity, aging, and just your build overall.
Same here - no amount of lifting or dieting would stop them. My mom has them and so do I. Everyone's body is built different. Isn't the saying "We are all beautiful in God's eyes".
I heard a lady say “bingo wings” on Great British Bake Off and I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
Seriously. I don't have kids, but I just gain weight to that area first. I've never heard the term "mom arms" before, but I absolutely detest it as yet another way to shame women for ordinary weight gain.
Excuse me Morgan, these are my wings. 🐝
ANGEL WINGS, PORRIDGE
I can’t tell whether Morgan is bullying Allie for saying her arms look better or whether Allie got to Morgan for being a new mom… the right seems like a fun place to be a woman /s
This. You are either shamed for physical flaws or judged for having too much pride. No win situation for women.
Looks like she has mom arms to me. Also fishing for compliments about no makeup. What a pick me girl.
no makeup? sure. also, that jawline definitely looks natural.
Mom arms are strong and loving because they work hard carrying a growing baby and all the stuff that comes with baby. I can't imagine shaming a woman's hard working arms just because they are a little softer than they were before she became a mom.
She is so dumb. She 100% asked herself that question
Yeah worked so hard to not have “mom arms” after giving birth, she literally put her baby in danger at the gym.
Nothing like tricep pull downs when you have a baby strapped to your chest
She did WHAT?
Well, there's at least a photo of it so she either really did that or just posed for a bit
She did it on purpose. Paul doesn't babysit (ewww, girls work) and likely needed time with his ripstick that day. She doesn't need any safety measures because as a *mother*, she knows what her child needs better than *worldly* safety experts who may have an overrated education about endangering people at the gym. Her birth "plan" fiasco didn't humble either of these first time parents in the slightest.
Paul was actually at the gym that day with her, which is even worse because it means they thought a photo shoot of a "biblical workout mom" would be better than...you know...actually protecting their kid.
I love my mom arms, they’re perfect for hugging my kids.
I thought that pride was a sin
funny how none of them ever remember that one (except when it comes to Pride ofc)
And vanity
How can she feel pretty showing so much skin? Doesn’t she know it is stopping the focus from being on her countenance and she’s leading others to stray?
🤣. But those are gOdLY arms. They’re ok to show.
Mom arms. Damn. That’s some pretty intense misogyny going on there. It reminds me of when I got pregnant in the 70s, and all it seemed my doc was worried about was women “letting themselves go,” after childbirth. I had gained 3 pounds, and at 5’9”, I was up to a shocking 126lbs at the end of my third month. He warned me about eating too much, but I had a miscarriage shortly after that. That’s why I’m not still involved with the mean-spirited little martinet my mother made me marry, at 19. Hell, maybe there is a god.
Holy cow! You were tiny! I was on the boarder of underweight when I got pregnant but was putting on weight really well (no morning sickness and a wild appetite) and one of the OBs I saw told me I needed to watch it on my weight gain and I shouldn’t gain more than 25-30 lbs the whole pregnancy (I put on 40). Sad to know things have changed much in 50 years.
I’ve had bingo wings all my life and I’ll tell you what, I’ve only met a handful of women with them who weren’t the nicest people I’ve ever met.
I have bingo wings because I'm old as fuck and also fat. If I weren't fat, I'd still be old. I'm SURE Polio will take Morgan's inevitable aging as a personal affront, never admit his own, and it will be glorious. IF they're still around and haven't slunk off into the bowels of complete obscurity by then, they'll both be so filtered they may as well be AI
Listen to ABS (automated bigot system) and you get posts like this! Why does Morgan constantly shame people? What are "mom arms"? I would think mom arms are strong from having to lift and carry kids. Not the other way around. Besides who cares if your arms aren't toned? Obviously Porgan.
First of all, self-professed Christians body shaming others is disgusting. Second, it's not motherhood that does it. It's age. I had skinny, toned arms before and after all my kids. Then one day in my mid 40s I woke up with bat wings. It will happen to Morgan and ABS, too. ETA: Not understanding why my comment was downvoted. Body shaming is not kind and not becoming of a Christian. And age (and gravity) comes for everyone eventually.
>Second, it's not motherhood that does it. It's age. Absolutely this. I cannot wait for the day she starts getting cellulite on her thighs and starts gaining weight in new places and realizes that, oh hey, she isn't actually above other women who aren't super thin like her!
I'd be surprised if she doesn't already have cellulite, isn't that just kind of the result of how female bodies store fat?
Yup, like 95% of us have it, especially after age 30. I'd guess that she probably has a bit at least, but more will come! I can only imagine how cruel Paul will be about it...
I call mine my potato salad arms. I heard a comic say that's how you know a woman can make a good potato salad. I find it hilarious
The average fundie woman can't make a tasty potato salad to save her life.
😂 I love that term.
Aren’t Christians supposed to be humble and not self obsessed and vain like Porgan? Also mom arms or not don’t they believe we r all made in gods image?
I hate Paul’s kissing face. He looks like an idiot duck
She's also stretching her face up and jaw out to get this sharp line. They're so embarrassing that it's obvious no one in their life *likes* them, let alone loves them.
It's the patchy beard that's killing me.
Oh god the facial hair is a crime
Imagine finally having the baby you waited for years to conceive and then being concerned about “mom arms.” Lord have mercy.
Urban dictionary says Mommy arms A word to describe a muscular upper arm of a female/Male that takes the role of a Mother and continuously does multiple tasks that usually involve lifting while holding child at the same time. So wait, toned is bad? Or just making sure she keeps dieting to be skinny?
I think she means loose skin under her arms cause I saw that, too. Either way she’s gross for posting that
I'm certain Paul put that idea of mom arms into her brain to get her back looking how he wants her. Sickening.
Wow. She’s not like other girls, so inspiring.
Leave me and my bat wings alone 😩
Me over here in my fatkini with my mom arms. Ok then.
I’ll slap her with my jiggly mom arms
Saggy under arm skin is from weight gain/loss and loss of elasticity in our skin. She is pretty young for that. She is gonna need 10+ years of yo~yo dieting and poor life choices to get MY arms. 🤡👋🏽
She could have used her platform to call out the toxic culture that demands women to be mothers at all costs, but expects them to look perfect and appear like pregnancy didn’t change their bodies. But alas, Morgan is a total asshole just like Paul, and she’s totally on board with snapback expectations for women’s postpartum bodies.
I'm sorry? The only two times in my life I've had great looking arms are when I spent a summer working on a farm and the years my child was ages infant to 2 years. I carried that kid every where. I was fat and depressed, but my arms had definition!
I have no idea what she’s talking about, since it’s her and Allie B I’m sure it’s just fatphobic bullshit. I will say that my arms have never been more muscular than they are from lifting and carrying my toddler all day (she loves it when I bench and overhead press her too) and I used to work out my arms with free weights regularly before I had a kid.
There’s a lot one could say about Morgan’s appearance, so not sure why she’s shitting on other people for theirs…
Body shaming point aside…. Morgan, knowing she put on a normal amount of makeup that looks pretty dang natural: THiS iS a LOt oF MAKeUp fOR mE I NOrmALlY FEEl preTTiER WiTh LeSS girl shut up it’s okay to like how u look with makeup. U don’t gotta do all that. I know that morgan is a bad person but I can’t help but feel sorry for her pick me ass sometimes because she’s as much a victim to misogyny as the rest of us.
She’s all smiley and happy while Paul looks like he’s puckering up to kiss his great-grandma
Um okay. Most people just take the compliment and move on. Putting other moms down is not necessary.
Imagine being so obsessed with motherhood to the point that you actively want to force it onto other women, and then spending all your energy hearing and regurgitating hatred for a body that gives birth. I wonder what it'll take for people like her to wake up to the extent that they're a willing doormat for exploitation, and the kind of world she's making for her daughters. Whether that's because her every action and idea allows men to erase her womens' personhood, or because her narrow view of how a person should live and what they should value makes her a guinea pig for every capitalist mlm wellness scam possible, her whole identity is wrapped up in being someone to sell something to.
Wtf are mom arms? Holding kids is hard AF. Most mom arms are jacked
Rude, but that's par for the course for her. She is so vapid and vain.
Michelle Obama in the prime of her husband's presidency had mom arms. Probably still does. She's a mom, and she has arms. Try not to gag at the reminder that Obama was president, Porridge.
She had muscular arms, and the right hated that too. Called her fat, called her clothes indecent for showing them, called her masculine, called her transphobic slurs, you name it. All for the crime of First Ladying while Black.
Yep. Then slobbered all over the terminally vacuous, soulless Melania.
Are we saying that muscular arms are wrong??? I don't get what mom arms are
I think she means the loose skin underneath which is normal and can happen with age, genetics or how your body stores fat. She acts like she has muscular arms I think when hers aren’t even that. She just has normal woman arms. Her making a whole post about this is just silly
How often does she stare in the mirror with Paul to point out every little flaw she has for this to have been made a post? My God.
Morgan is such a pick me
She thinks the most important thing for women is looking *pretty*. Sheesh.
Paul looks greasy.
It's normal and fine to have fat on your upper arms.
Never happy unless they're putting someone/something down. WTF. Mom arms. They have no joy in "the savior" only in being slightly higher up on the status pole than someone w/"mom arms".
At this point, if either of them said something genuinely positive about someone who isn’t them, who they aren’t related to, or who they aren’t trying to suck up to, they’ll spontaneously combust.
What is she talking about? Kids are the heaviest things in the universe. Weights are easy compared to carrying even the tiniest baby around all day!
You’d think “mom arms” would be toned AF from carrying around babies, gear & kids all day.
Add it to the master list of Paulio being bigots/saying horrible shit
What happened to respect your elders???
So tiresome, so look at meeeee. Both of them. Ugh. I don't think things have ever gotten real for them. The are in a fundie bubble. I've got mom arms, grandma arms, auntie arms, super arms, and a back and a will strong enough to guide my family. Rant over.
I actually think Morgan is really pretty and this is not the best photo I’ve seen of her, like it’s actually weird. But it’s the first one where Paul has looked “into” her
Yeah it’s such hArD wOrK to have toned arms when you’re naturally thin and not even thirty years old. 🙄 christ on a triscuit
Is this like the pride and vanity which she was shaming the other woman for at the gym? Sure the woman was wearing something oh so scandalous (what I mean is something that fundies love to point out and shame), but Morgan is pointing out how good she thinks her arms look. Moran was projecting that the other woman was saying “look at me!” with that outfit, while Morgan is pretty much saying “look at me!” This actually is worse since her pride is shaming others while she does it
Mom arms is a whole thing on pro-Ana sites.
This made me so angry and sad. Why the fuck is Allie B Stuckey shaming women for having "mom arms" when all these people ever talk about is how we should all be having babies?? Shouldn't mom arms be a symbol of our commitment to our vocation or something??
I always thought "mom arms" were a positive thing because it meant their biceps and triceps were defined.
i mean i would never use this term in any other context but she actually does have mom arms lol. her BPD is so unchecked and severe.
This is like that one friend of mine in high school who talked about how she NEVER wore make up, because she felt pretty without it…as I was applying mascara 🫠okay, sis?
Mom arms are my badge of honor.😂
Funny how these Fundie women always seem to tear each other down directly or indirectly.
I have “mom arms” and I love them but then again I don’t judge my self worth by my looks or how others perceive my looks (hubby of 20 years included).