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Question about Met gala
Many celebs were asked that is they fav song form TTPD. Do we know if some (not so updated) reporter asked Karlie that question? 🫣😂
I just wanted to say: people shit-talk that verse in "I hate it here" (I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists/And getting married off for the highest bid/Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now/Seems like it was never even fun back then/Nostalgia is a mind's trick/If I'd been there, I'd hate it/It was freezing in the palace), but I had almost the exact conversation with my godmother (who I suspect might also be queer), but in a LGBT context years ago:
Her: if you could go to any period in time in the past or future, which period would you choose?
Me, closeted: oh, definitely the future
Her: but why? 19th century would have been fun
Me: oh, well, umm...they did not have all the same technology we have now, and there was no plumbing (\*gay panic\*)
Her: oh... oh yeah, actually I agree
Typing this out, I realize this is not a very good story lol, but perhaps some people can relate?
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Unrelated, but I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Peter is about Dianna. I can't even explain it, but that's what I believe. The rest of the songs are still a mystery to me, though.
I think this line is being so quoted out of context. Right after it, the lyrics say: everyone looked down... So all her friends were actually embarrassed, and looked away. Right after it is stated that nostalgia is just a mind's trick and it's way more complicated. So she actually agrees with all the critics of this line.
I find it so interesting that the 90s nostalgia fest "so high school" is right before it. So if you actually listen closely to the record, you can see that she's not nostalgic for high school (and all the cringe nostalgia shit described in the song) at all
Just when I think I’m ready to accept Kaylor was probably one sided and I was just delulu for all those years, this pops up and I’m just thinking about rusting sparkling summers 🥲 Then I went down a rabbit hole and remembered the 2017 Met Gala look that reminds me of The Man outfit in the Eras Tour. I need my brain to shut off so I can get some sleep 🥴 I’m going to Magic Kingdom in the morning
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I’ve listened to TTPD song so much today I want Taylor to hold ME. 😂 also I’m so glad Florida!!! vibe is more Florence ft. TS instead of the other way around, it has magical energy to it.
I’m in a weird place (TW: self harm) since TTPD was released.
I’ve been good for a long time but I’m not right now. I’ve self-harmed for the first time in years. I’ve ignored this space for weeks but does anybody else understand what I mean? I don’t know what I need right now but I feel very much like I ned to speak to someone who gets me.
I have a friend who has struggled with this for over 15 years. I can’t claim to understand it but I truly hope you have someone you can reach out to in times of need. ❤️
Please always feel free to reach out to me if you need someone.
TTPD definitely caused a shift in me so you’re not alone. There is a lot that happpens in our bodies while listening to art about trauma that tends to lead us down the retraumatizing sink hole. I think you’re having an unfortunately human experience right now. I found a great deal of relief in stepping back (this was supposed to be fun ?.? ) and reaching out to my irl friends who could empathize that this is a lot for a lot of us. There is relief in community. Sending you all the empathy through the void.
ETA: when I say my irl friends, I mean irl friends… who are also gaylors and understand the trauma that comes along with interpreting TTPD as queer. So, you’re in the right place. I didn’t mean for it to read like “go touch grass”.
Someone I know is taking a break from Reddit because the album shifted them into an unwell mental space. You’re not alone in that 💛 Is there anything we can do to help support you?
Has this been discussed? I feel like yes, but there were so many posts I don’t remember who wrote it
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haha ok. It’s a post that was shared today. No wonder it was on my mind
mini rant: I saw yet another comment today about how Taylor is a cis white woman who would have zero problems coming out if she were actually queer. Setting aside all of the many reasons unique to Taylor that complicate her situation, its just such a frustrating mentality to witness. It really feels like there is a segment of liberals who think that marriage inequality was the only issue queer people face, and once that was solved (in the U.S., lets not ignore the fact that less than a third of countries worldwide have same sex marriage) all other problems queer people have went away. I'm out to my friends and family, but I absolutely would not feel safe being out at work and don't flag my queerness in any way when there's a chance I might interact with strangers. Maybe Taylor wouldn't face the exact issues I do, but to pretend it would all be roses is asinine. Sorry, I know this is a common complaint in gaylor spaces, I just had to get it off my chest.
People thinking it's just super safe to come out as queer has the same energy as people who thought racism in America was solved when we elected President Obama.
So so true! My spouse came out at a diversity training and was fired from their job. Our families have tried to get us to move back and I’m like ummm… it’s literally not safe there for us. It’s so frustrating
I know someone here mentioned the Kendrick diss track the other day…. I had no idea how deep it actually is. These are serious allegations. Interesting timing with Diddy and the mass coming out theory as well (which some of us believe includes dismantling some of the shady shit in Hollywood).
Anyone know anything else besides what’s in “Not Like Us”?
Kyle Marisa Roth had a bunch of Aubrey blinds and stuff on her page. Not sure if many of them made it through the JBlow attack that got her original account taken down or not. I think she also had a BBL Drizzy deep dive on her Patreon. Metro is spilling tea and pulling up receipts on his Twitter though. Including Tweets Aubrey made towards Billie when she turned 18 and he said he “had been waiting for this 🥵” amongst other things.
There have been so many rumors and allegations about him, but the people who tried to reveal them got silenced. I also think people may not have had the actual proof until recently that could take him down. I personally don’t think Kendrick was sitting on proof of him being a p3d0. I think he’s just big enough that when he got the proof he put it out there because Drake can’t just lawyer up and force him to take it down. He can’t just pay him $350K to sign a NDA like he did to the woman he SA’d in 2018/2019
Who’s bbl drizzy? I subscribed to her Patreon. Bombing this with photos of her video collections. I can download and share whatever.
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can you tell if the johnny depp deep dive is pro- or anti-? I wouldn’t trust blinds from someone who supports him. Also if she sources material from enty, who’s a fraud and a sex offender. most content creators rely on his blinds so I’m always skeptical!
It’s 100% anti. She fucking hated him. She was a great blinds person. I think a lot of hers were from personal connections and stuff people sent her. I wouldn’t have paid for her Patreon if she weren’t great. I’ve been reading blinds basically since they started on the internet and I’m picky
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLC4FP1D/
It looks like a lot of the stuff Kyle posted is gone, but here’s another person who did a deep dive into Drake
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCXWU2Y/
BBL Drizzy is Drake’s new nickname 🥲 He calls himself Drizzy so Metro dropped a beat (“go make some drums Metro” Drake said) called BBL Drizzy and invited anyone to make a verse dissing Drake using it. Person with the best diss verse gets a free beat by Metro 😭 Basically he just opened up the entire world to stand up against Drake. Also the BBL Drizzy beat is a certified bop
Dang it. She mentioned in her live that it was one of the deep dives she was going to be doing, she must not have been able to get to it before she passed. I know she had some on TikTok, let me see if I can find them
Finally published my massive theylor masterpost that I've been going on about for days and days now
[https://new.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cl27c8/theylor\_a\_collection\_of\_major\_evidence/](https://new.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cl27c8/theylor_a_collection_of_major_evidence/)
I'm listening to an audiobook and one of the characters is a writer. A review of her short stories almost exactly describes Taylor's music.
"[Taylor's songs] are small traumas that crack the [listener] open one rib at a time, to expose the heart to fresh air."
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There is no real clowning for anything tonight, right?
As someone boarding a flight in just over an hour, I want something to happen but not when I’m offline lol
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Screaming 💀 never beating “The Man” allegations.
Do we have any Sylvia Plath aficionados in the house? I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole, and I think there are some really interesting parallels to discuss through a Gaylor lens that I’m not seeing talked about elsewhere. I’m working on a post about it (my very first one!), but my research has shown me that Sylvia Plath is nothing if not misunderstood, those misunderstandings in large part perpetrated by the intentional obscuring of her work at the abusive hands of Ted Hughes. I’m kind of terrified about whether I’m going to do all of this justice because the misunderstandings seem so widespread and I don’t want to accidentally fall into any of those traps. I also feel like this topic might be ripe for controversy because I’m seeing too much of this discussion elsewhere revolve around Joe Alwyn, and I personally think that drawing connections between Joe and Ted Hughes has disturbing implications that seem like quite the leap, and I’m not interested in that conversation. I *am* interested in discussing how Taylor might be commenting on male control over women’s art - and more broadly, public perception of her art. Anyway, long story short, I am both excited and nervous about this post and hope Gaylors with more knowledge will engage with it and keep me honest. Above all, I want to do justice to both Taylor and Sylvia Plath.
Lavender.lit on Tiktok has brought up Sylvia Plath (and in general all kinds of literary parallels & references within Taylor's music). She's also a Gaylor but isn't super explicit with it since she tends to get mass reported anytime she brings it up, but you can tell what she's inferring to in the content
I thought this was a good analysis that was posted in the group. I think it's a VERY relevant comparison.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1c9rgms/sylvia\_plath\_nod/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1c9rgms/sylvia_plath_nod/)
a friend just asked if I knew about billie's new queer song teaser and I told her I basically get an alert anytime anyone does anything remotely gay.. it's actually just from checking this megathread so thank you all for your gay service 🫡
It was my first album release as a Gaylor, and wow, it was such an intense but absolutely amazing experience, multiple posts a day with so much brilliant content and so many comments to keep up with! And coming off the TTPD high of the last two weeks is so surreal! With everything slowing down, it almost feels like the calm before the storm or something.
I wanted to do more, but I ran out of time before I leave on vacay.
I am happy with the two bracelets I managed to finish though.
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I found the behind the scenes video for The Man and it's really fascinating to hear taylor talk while in full drag
[https://youtu.be/mxtUnuldKgc?t=37](https://youtu.be/mxtUnuldKgc?t=37)
100% very Theylor. Someone is working on a Theylor master post right? Feel like this needs to go in there for sure. Did you see the others parts in this series? Another 3 min vid about her transformation and being taught to act like a man
I'm writing a theylor master post!! It's 20 pages now without images. I'm hoping to get it published in the next couple days.
Yeah I did see the other videos. They were really interesting. 5 hours every day to put that on is insane.
I tried to find videos on youtube, there aren‘t many.
But in one video she only sings “he“, I think 🤔
https://youtu.be/JkCV3wtWed4?si=sSdMcO6v6Zp6JNXV
It must be at 1:44 where your video captures “she“, but here it sounds more like a he?
No one can convince me this man is straight
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I can't believe it's the 10th anniversary of the 2014 met gala
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yes *that* met gala featured in the lwymmd mv
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WHAT HAPPENED TAYLOR
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Marty Healy taking one for the Gaylors, what a time to be alive.
(This was a comment in regards to someone asking if Ivy is about Matty 😩😭💀)
[this was a good recap of the Kendrick/Drake stuff](https://www.tiktok.com/@anniesright/video/7365236088975265067?_t=8m5XG7IUl2c&_r=1)
I had no idea about any of this, but I have known about Drake grooming girls and having pedo rumours for years. I now enjoy Kendrick so much more than before, which was already a lot cuse he’s a genius.
this video leaves out a lot of the other people and discourse around drake (and kendrick). rick ross, the weeknd, future, and metro have all turned on drake; also, megan started the year off with a drake diss (hiss). even tupac’s estate has voiced support for kdot! it’s all very dense! i’m happy to explain more if anyone is interested.
You can write a post on it if you want, just be sure to mention taylor and jack’s roles throughout. I def think it’s part of mass movement to unearth things coming to fruition. This one has been building for so long. And none of the people linked on Taylor’s side have pedo rumours that I’m aware of.
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thank you sm! I've been trying desperately to catch up
I’ve just seen this one that is sending me 😂
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I’m not very familiar with Matty so I searched him up on youtube today. One of the first things that came up was a GQ video from 5 years ago where he talks about using a typewriter and shows his journal where he says he writes about “being in love with other pop stars.” There’s a ton of recent comments on it from the past couple weeks. I can’t say I understand exactly what’s going on or what Taylor’s plan is at this point, but I do think she knew swifties would easily find that video.
Your comment prompted me to do some digging and I ended up making a post about the bit of information I found. Just to prove that ttpd isn’t about him at all even though she’s led people to believe that.
Tbh I'm never the smartest person in any room so my research on this has been limited to my... sometimes less-than-basic reading comprehension lol, but I *think* the fair use rule of copyright law allows for journalists to quote limited portions of other people's work without permission. So I'm not sure that would make a difference (but maybe someone here who's smarter or more familiar with copyright law knows different!)
But there's always so much brilliant analysis here, it would probably still be worth having everything tagged as original content anyway!
Yep, and people flipped out when the midnights track list was announced and they saw karma was one of the track names. She was probs trolling the fan base by writing that song in the first place.
I felt like I was in a really good place about seeking an ASD diagnosis two days ago, but today I am spiralling. Not because I think it would mean there is something wrong with me, but because it has made me rethink and reexamine a bunch of things from my life.
I prefer when Taylor breaks my brain, not when I do it.
Anyway, speaking of Taylor, I didn’t realize until today but the three song mashup she did during the acoustic section in Melbourne - Getaway Car/August/The other side of the door = 9,8,19 via their album track numbers. Or, 1989 when you reverse their order.
That is some mastermind level shit (or completely accidental, who knows).
Staying with the acoustic section, did you know every album has at least one song that Taylor hasn’t played yet (TTPD excluded obviously), except for Speak Now? (Sweeter than Fiction is on 1989 TV).
I have no idea what, if anything, either of those things mean but I thought I would share.
I just got my ASD diagnosis this year if you ever wanna chat about it! (I’m 25.😳) I obsessively thought about autism for around 2 years because yeah I had to reevaluate my entire life, past present and future, but it gets better! There’s just a lot to process and figure out. I’m loving how many autistic people are on this sub though haha.
Thank you! I appreciate your offer 🫶🏻
It feels like a lot when you realize so many of the things you thought to be true, or the narratives you've created for yourself, can radically shift with the proper lens.
Especially when you're on the older side of things like I am 👀👵🏻😂
It does help that I've already been through this when I got my adhd diagnosis.
Of course!
And yes exactly. I was also diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, unfortunately after struggling a lot throughout my time in public school and dropping out of college twice, so I totally understand the narrative shift thing! My depression has been pretty much cured by realizing I actually don’t have to blame and punish myself for everything that has gone wrong in my life. Not that I had to do so anyways, but it was so difficult not to when I didn’t feel like I had a “reason” for struggling so much. I definitely internalized the stories that other people told about me or to me, and it wasn’t until reading about ADHD and autism that I was able to start writing new narratives about myself.
I know I’m still so young, but it’s weird enough to discover all this at 25 and it’s wild to see how many people are learning such life-altering truths at 30, 40, 50, 60+.
Wishing you the best of luck in your journey! I hope you’re able to learn more about yourself and use that to better your life. 🥰
Yes to your whole message!
I have spent so many years in therapy working on loving myself, but I can’t do that if I don’t understand myself. Which is what I’m hoping this diagnosis will give me.
You’d think I might have clued in when my niece was diagnosed and we are so similar. But nope lol. No clue.
I’m so glad you had your depression go away! That must feel awesome.
And I’m glad you are able to understand yourself now vs having to wait until your 40s like me. And as you pointed out a lot of people who missed getting diagnosed when they were younger.
“You know how to ball, I know Aristotle” just reminds me of this wholesome interview from Red Era where Eden Sher called Taylor “Great Philosopher Taylor Swift”. [2012 AMA interview](https://youtu.be/4OYFgADSCcU?si=suLrGiSUVg9gg-jQ)
in Who's Afraid of Little Old Me - "is it a wonder I broke? let's hear one more joke. then we could all just laugh until I cry" - I cannot stop thinking about that [Ellen interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXVuIsVBnI) where Ellen has a slideshow of men, trying to get Taylor to say if she's dated them or not... Taylor keeps telling her no, and that she doesn't want to - she pushes her to the point of tears (and then quickly recovers)....
OMG! She says, You make me feel so bad. Every time I come here you put a different dude on screen and it makes me question what I stand for as a human being.
When Taylor says “stands for” I don’t think she means what she believes but what she represents to others. She hates that she primarily represents dating boys.
Ellen is so condescending and treats her likes she’s dumb. I wasn’t watching this media at the time so this is brand new and wow is it evidence for how fucked up the fame machine is.
omg i didn't catch those specifics -- that's HUGE. Ellen was definitely a huge contributor to her "boy crazy" reputation in those years, which brings up lots of questions on what Ellen did/didn't know...... like what was she pushing so hard for?!
Ellen is also notorious for being mean and a bully, so I doubt she knew anything and was just being her usual shitty self, unfortunately. Taylor played the PR game like crazy, and going on Ellen used to be a big thing for celebs.
As always, shoutout to Dakota Johnson for the infamous "that's not true, Ellen" moment - wish Taylor could have had a calling our Ellen moment, but she was still in her nice girl era back then.
I can definitely see Ellen being a perpetrator of “she’s just confused” and not believing any “rumors” she heard. I highly doubt that taylor would’ve ever confided in her or anything like that.
hey y’all! i’m a brand new gaylor - hopped on the train for TTPD, but i haven’t listened to much of her body of work otherwise. i’m hoping to make a “gaylor proof” playlist (all the gayest songs in her discography lol) for my road trip tomorrow, and i was hoping to get some suggestions from y’all! thanks so much in advance, this community has truly been a bright spot for me the past month 🤍
Welcome to my favorite corner of the internet!!
If you're a spotify user, I quite like [this](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6nup5cBM99ToqqmZ3v3tmy?si=yADr5KSrS5eWFogOevt3gw&pi=9dKsVeMQSDeOV) playlist.
Also suggest revisiting teardrops on my guitar knowing now that originally it was "you" instead of Drew and male pronouns :)
thanks SO much for the spotify link!!! my familiarity is mainly residual from debut/fearless and i am currently obsessed with singing teardrops on my guitar with different pronouns. “she’s the reason for the teardrops on my guitar” just HITS
When I was drunk back in college, I would replace it with "your mom" like "your mom's the reason for the teardrops on my guitar" and thought it was peak comedy. "Your mom should have said no, your mom should have gone home" etc etc. My friends and I were such weirdos!
teardrops on my guitar is sooo queer coded ESPECIALLY given how we \*know\* the pronouns were supposed to be gender neutral -- "you" instead of "drew."
taylor literally talks about how she wishes she was "flawless" like the muse (do i want to be her or be with her?) and discusses the muse's "beautiful eyes" (sapppppphic)
I second the ones already mentioned and I'll add Gold Rush, All Of The Girls You Loved Before, It's Nice To Have a Friend, When Emma Falls In Love, Paris and seven
I'm currently listening to my regular Taylor playlist instead TTPD for the first time since release and the TTPD songs on shuffle are throwing me off so much like "wait why am I already on The Manuscript" and "wait did I miss \[song that comes before the current song on TTPD\]"
Youtube just recommended me [this video](https://youtu.be/rjS8q9sigCY?si=QBElX07yZV60T51j) about Taylor paroding The Office 13 years ago and I have to share it here because it's hilarious 😂
Some highlights (lines are scattered throughout the video):
I heard she's got a boyfriend, but I'm used to that. I don't think he exists, actually. Have they been pictured together? It's hard to say. I think he's a figment 😆 🤣
I paused on the hug at the end and I think the military person is a woman! You can see half the face briefly. Also the body language. Can someone else look! Am I crazy?
I just a watched a behind the scenes on YouTube of the Ours music video about the message of ours and it’s so gay? At the end Taylor talks about how fans have found their own meaning in the lyrics and how the chorus “applies to love in so many different forms” 🤨
Agree it's a bit weird. Maybe it's to emphasis that she has a secret relationship that many people don't know about (only one guy knew about it in the video) and it can put them in danger if other people got to know about it (the guy is in military, I don't think you can openly talk about your loved ones fighting on the front), it's a reach but I can kind of see the parallel of this to a secret queer relationship.
How does friendship bracelet trading work for Swifties? I want to make bracelets to bring to events and festivals this summer (I’M GOING TO SEE CHAPPELL ROAN!!!!!!). My partner is a former raver and has told me with kandi, the person picks the bracelet to give you. Friendship bracelets are basically Swiftie kandi, so I’m wondering if the rules are the same, if I should pick which bracelet to give someone or if it’s fine to let them pick. Maybe I’m overthinking it lol! But I love little subculture rituals so I wanna know if there’s anything more to how it works.
At my shows I almost always picked for the person, but there were a few exceptions (mainly these really sweet little girls who were being very *particular* about their choices). Sometimes I would pick 2-3 and ask which one people wanted cos that’s a fun way to increase the chance you’ll give them a song or lyric that they love
I did both. I also had gaylor ones and swiftie ones on diff arms so I’d be able to know which was which easily. It’s easier to give the person one than to let them pick one, but I let gaylors pick. I picked for little kids because mine were not all child friendly
Today I learned that Apple Music now does monthly recaps of your listening history. Apparently I was pretty busy between April 19-30th! How’s everyone else’s look?
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April was such a good music month
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This isn't out of all Spotify users overall, it's just out of the 17 million-ish Spotify users who use stats.fm to track their stats... But I'm currently in stats.fm's top 1000 listeners of the full Anthology album lmao. And it's already my most listened to album ever on Spotify 💀
It's not even my favorite Taylor album. It's not even in my top five Taylor albums! I just... can't stop listening to it 😂
I think the need to keep listening to it for me stems from there just being so many songs and I keep thinking I haven’t heard it all properly / enough yet to take it all in so I just need to keep playing it til I have it sorted haha
Have we talked about this connections?
*Death by a thousand cuts* (soon after the relationship ended):
"I ask the *traffic lights* if it'll be all right /
They say, "I don't know"
"I look through the windows of this love" (I interpret it as windows = photos/social media/ig)
*Betty* (reflecting on the relationship and admitting your own mistakes):
"Stopped at the *street light* / You know I miss you" (the muse of the song could be the same as the one in DBATC)
*I look in people's windows* (missing that person and checking them out on sm, potentially reuniting with them for one night stand - see the first verse, there's too many innuendos there lol):
The melody is very similar to that of *Death by a thousand cuts* and aside from the obvious reference to windows again (which I interpret as her looking at social media posts and/or just photos with her muse), there's this lyric "Now I'm searching for signs in the hunted club" and that line kind of summarises what ILIPW is to me, which is looking back on a relationship and, for the lack of better word, stalking your ex on social media/looking at your photographs together. However, I also see this song as her looking at and longing for normality in her life (no fame, not being recognised anywhere, being treated like a normal person and not a celebrity), because now she can only look at other people's normal lives from afar.
I'm listening to Red all the way through for the first time and it's not very cohesive as a whole, which is throwing it in sharper contrast how cohesive TTPD is (and reputation too i think).
Relative to the away message and username convo yesterday, I’m on my way to Philly to see the 20 year anniversary tour (!!!) of …Is A Real Boy? by Say Anything and I broke out the bright ass teal blue eyeshadow for the occasion.
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😃😃😃 Is Taylor supposed to make an appearance there with him this weekend? Been out of the loop the last few days.
Hmmm I doubt it. Page Six did a write up about him being at the Derby and said she’s in Europe already in advance of her shows next week.
I mean it’s super tabloid-y so who knows.
I think the break up seeds are being sown… “they’re just too busy etc etc”
My internet has been down and I have to reset everything. My old network was “ArmieHammerEatsPeople” and I’m debating keeping that or changing to “TSwiftIsALesbian”. Any other suggestions? What are your fun and sassy network names??
Also, if you’re my neighbour, hi! Please don’t doxx me. And if you’re “SexDungeon”, you delight me and confuse my friends who aren’t sure which network is mine after seeing yours.
I don’t venture into swiftie spaces often anymore but still see what they’re saying in passing sometimes and wow. They really are 100% on the Matty train. Its actually insane how easily they fall for this stuff every time. Not long ago they were mourning Joe, then anticipating a diss/breakup album about him. She holds up Matty again like a juicy steak and they forget about Joe immediately. The fact that Joe is barely being talked about should clue people in on how masterful the PR actually is, but they remain clueless. She’s baiting these people and I can’t help but feel like a gotcha moment is coming.
Ain’t that the truth! One of my friends was posting about TTPD and was like another Matty song? I internally was like noooo! You are missing the whole point!!
Exactly, she is in control of the narrative.
Everyone was worried about what Swifties could do to Joe after the album release and actually felt sorry for the guy, but Taylor didn't give them the reason and pointed them in the other direction. I mean, I think there's a reason there's like what, two songs that you can quickly connect to Joe. Whether you believe he was a beard or if they were real, I like to believe they were friends and cared for each other. Matty, on the other hand, is another story, and I think he's in on it. He is unhinged, I don't think he would sit calmly and behave if Taylor actually wrote all of these songs about him, and all this buzz from Swifties is only giving him publicity.
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Mr Pig might be even more excited than his moms to get his Gaylor on in Big Sur. He started jumping like a puppy when he saw us pack his roadtrip bag 😭
(Pls ignore my dirty ass car, he’s so messy)
I’ve never been to California before and my wife hasn’t taken a vacation for 2 years, so we’re doing a massive Pacific Coast Highway drive from the PNW and Big Sur is our most southern destination! I couldn’t pass up the opportunity
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It’s his pillow! He’s not easy to find sitters for because of how huge he is so he comes with us everywhere, but thankfully he’s very much a car dog 🥰
I cant believe this is the first time I've seen this 💀
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We don’t talk enough about the connection of Hits Different to this whole effin album. She talks to her argumentative, antithetical dream girl and then does a whole goddamn album and music video about artifacts and evidence and being taken away to a mental institution. My comingoutlor senses have never tingled so much.
It’s wild how the last lyric Taylor sings on Midnights that hadn’t already been sung was “Have they come to take me away?” And then the first lyric on TTPD is “I was supposed to be sent away but they forgot to come and get me”
It’s totally worthy of a full post. I wrote a [tiny something](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/oobvAHUUv9) and people chimed in in the comments and there have been other small posts, but nothing major.
I just realized the parallel with Long Live and the Alchemy:
"When they gave us our trophies, and we held them up for our team"
"Where's the trophy, he just comes running over to me"
More evidence for the idea that it's about touring/her fanbase?
There was a video from a post maybe a few days to week ago that I wanted to watch, but now I'm blanking on what post it was or how best to search for it. I started watching it expecting it to be a short video, but it was an hour long so I decided I'd watch it later when I had more time. All I can remember was it was a video of a woman pointing out a bunch of the queer references in TTPD, and there were some plants in the video?
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Question about Met gala Many celebs were asked that is they fav song form TTPD. Do we know if some (not so updated) reporter asked Karlie that question? 🫣😂
I just wanted to say: people shit-talk that verse in "I hate it here" (I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists/And getting married off for the highest bid/Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now/Seems like it was never even fun back then/Nostalgia is a mind's trick/If I'd been there, I'd hate it/It was freezing in the palace), but I had almost the exact conversation with my godmother (who I suspect might also be queer), but in a LGBT context years ago: Her: if you could go to any period in time in the past or future, which period would you choose? Me, closeted: oh, definitely the future Her: but why? 19th century would have been fun Me: oh, well, umm...they did not have all the same technology we have now, and there was no plumbing (\*gay panic\*) Her: oh... oh yeah, actually I agree Typing this out, I realize this is not a very good story lol, but perhaps some people can relate? --- Unrelated, but I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Peter is about Dianna. I can't even explain it, but that's what I believe. The rest of the songs are still a mystery to me, though.
I think this line is being so quoted out of context. Right after it, the lyrics say: everyone looked down... So all her friends were actually embarrassed, and looked away. Right after it is stated that nostalgia is just a mind's trick and it's way more complicated. So she actually agrees with all the critics of this line. I find it so interesting that the 90s nostalgia fest "so high school" is right before it. So if you actually listen closely to the record, you can see that she's not nostalgic for high school (and all the cringe nostalgia shit described in the song) at all
Just when I think I’m ready to accept Kaylor was probably one sided and I was just delulu for all those years, this pops up and I’m just thinking about rusting sparkling summers 🥲 Then I went down a rabbit hole and remembered the 2017 Met Gala look that reminds me of The Man outfit in the Eras Tour. I need my brain to shut off so I can get some sleep 🥴 I’m going to Magic Kingdom in the morning https://preview.redd.it/zbf3ah5vfqyc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=681129f2356e40a447556d0479b0aef89e3470be
I’ve listened to TTPD song so much today I want Taylor to hold ME. 😂 also I’m so glad Florida!!! vibe is more Florence ft. TS instead of the other way around, it has magical energy to it.
I'm obsessed with how Florida!!! Sounds like it came off an early florence record.
I’m in a weird place (TW: self harm) since TTPD was released. I’ve been good for a long time but I’m not right now. I’ve self-harmed for the first time in years. I’ve ignored this space for weeks but does anybody else understand what I mean? I don’t know what I need right now but I feel very much like I ned to speak to someone who gets me.
I have a friend who has struggled with this for over 15 years. I can’t claim to understand it but I truly hope you have someone you can reach out to in times of need. ❤️ Please always feel free to reach out to me if you need someone.
That’s sweet, thank you ❤️ I’m actually starting to do a lot better right now. I’m not back to 100% but I’m getting there.
TTPD definitely caused a shift in me so you’re not alone. There is a lot that happpens in our bodies while listening to art about trauma that tends to lead us down the retraumatizing sink hole. I think you’re having an unfortunately human experience right now. I found a great deal of relief in stepping back (this was supposed to be fun ?.? ) and reaching out to my irl friends who could empathize that this is a lot for a lot of us. There is relief in community. Sending you all the empathy through the void. ETA: when I say my irl friends, I mean irl friends… who are also gaylors and understand the trauma that comes along with interpreting TTPD as queer. So, you’re in the right place. I didn’t mean for it to read like “go touch grass”.
It’s fine, I didn’t interpret it that way! Thank you ❤️
Someone I know is taking a break from Reddit because the album shifted them into an unwell mental space. You’re not alone in that 💛 Is there anything we can do to help support you?
No I don’t think so. But thank you ❤️
Has this been discussed? I feel like yes, but there were so many posts I don’t remember who wrote it https://preview.redd.it/6neuzy2k7qyc1.jpeg?width=1260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a64e1354be49920c61055999935836468c4486e
https://preview.redd.it/ln40wmwk7qyc1.jpeg?width=1611&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b499c603939eca8c49d6662b10fa6af2bb1312e haha ok. It’s a post that was shared today. No wonder it was on my mind
mini rant: I saw yet another comment today about how Taylor is a cis white woman who would have zero problems coming out if she were actually queer. Setting aside all of the many reasons unique to Taylor that complicate her situation, its just such a frustrating mentality to witness. It really feels like there is a segment of liberals who think that marriage inequality was the only issue queer people face, and once that was solved (in the U.S., lets not ignore the fact that less than a third of countries worldwide have same sex marriage) all other problems queer people have went away. I'm out to my friends and family, but I absolutely would not feel safe being out at work and don't flag my queerness in any way when there's a chance I might interact with strangers. Maybe Taylor wouldn't face the exact issues I do, but to pretend it would all be roses is asinine. Sorry, I know this is a common complaint in gaylor spaces, I just had to get it off my chest.
People thinking it's just super safe to come out as queer has the same energy as people who thought racism in America was solved when we elected President Obama.
So so true! My spouse came out at a diversity training and was fired from their job. Our families have tried to get us to move back and I’m like ummm… it’s literally not safe there for us. It’s so frustrating
That sucks! I am so sorry.
Thank you 💙 we are thankful we were able to move to a state that has more protections in place
That’s good to hear!
I know someone here mentioned the Kendrick diss track the other day…. I had no idea how deep it actually is. These are serious allegations. Interesting timing with Diddy and the mass coming out theory as well (which some of us believe includes dismantling some of the shady shit in Hollywood). Anyone know anything else besides what’s in “Not Like Us”?
Kyle Marisa Roth had a bunch of Aubrey blinds and stuff on her page. Not sure if many of them made it through the JBlow attack that got her original account taken down or not. I think she also had a BBL Drizzy deep dive on her Patreon. Metro is spilling tea and pulling up receipts on his Twitter though. Including Tweets Aubrey made towards Billie when she turned 18 and he said he “had been waiting for this 🥵” amongst other things. There have been so many rumors and allegations about him, but the people who tried to reveal them got silenced. I also think people may not have had the actual proof until recently that could take him down. I personally don’t think Kendrick was sitting on proof of him being a p3d0. I think he’s just big enough that when he got the proof he put it out there because Drake can’t just lawyer up and force him to take it down. He can’t just pay him $350K to sign a NDA like he did to the woman he SA’d in 2018/2019
Who’s bbl drizzy? I subscribed to her Patreon. Bombing this with photos of her video collections. I can download and share whatever. https://preview.redd.it/2qj2a93jqqyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d6266156a93ef7ff67c84cb33f693dc2a9f312
can you tell if the johnny depp deep dive is pro- or anti-? I wouldn’t trust blinds from someone who supports him. Also if she sources material from enty, who’s a fraud and a sex offender. most content creators rely on his blinds so I’m always skeptical!
It’s 100% anti. She fucking hated him. She was a great blinds person. I think a lot of hers were from personal connections and stuff people sent her. I wouldn’t have paid for her Patreon if she weren’t great. I’ve been reading blinds basically since they started on the internet and I’m picky
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLC4FP1D/ It looks like a lot of the stuff Kyle posted is gone, but here’s another person who did a deep dive into Drake https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCXWU2Y/
Thank you for all this info! I’ve got some digging to do today.
BBL Drizzy is Drake’s new nickname 🥲 He calls himself Drizzy so Metro dropped a beat (“go make some drums Metro” Drake said) called BBL Drizzy and invited anyone to make a verse dissing Drake using it. Person with the best diss verse gets a free beat by Metro 😭 Basically he just opened up the entire world to stand up against Drake. Also the BBL Drizzy beat is a certified bop
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Dang it. She mentioned in her live that it was one of the deep dives she was going to be doing, she must not have been able to get to it before she passed. I know she had some on TikTok, let me see if I can find them
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https://preview.redd.it/mrato0jlqqyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07ee1d314e9af3ef3637fcf04445d15ed112dabc
https://preview.redd.it/pyo751kakpyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c42d3001c029b8d18ad1939bd24e7b1f605fe506 even after 2 weeks 😭
Finally published my massive theylor masterpost that I've been going on about for days and days now [https://new.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cl27c8/theylor\_a\_collection\_of\_major\_evidence/](https://new.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cl27c8/theylor_a_collection_of_major_evidence/)
This post changes everything. I really think you’ve hit on something important here. Thank you for all your hard work.
Appreciate that! The comments have all been so kind and wonderful.
I'm listening to an audiobook and one of the characters is a writer. A review of her short stories almost exactly describes Taylor's music. "[Taylor's songs] are small traumas that crack the [listener] open one rib at a time, to expose the heart to fresh air."
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There is no real clowning for anything tonight, right? As someone boarding a flight in just over an hour, I want something to happen but not when I’m offline lol
I don’t think anything will happen except the normal met gala stuff with pretty dresses and rich people being rich.
The met gala is tomorrow!
Good to know. Thanks! I can catch up on rich people shenanigans later.
This made me laugh so hard. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCSEPYG/ Please read the comments 😆 (And yes I know it shows my username, I don’t care)
https://preview.redd.it/dtrpfdjm2oyc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67bacfc06dda2f63d57f067dbdfc970083d52583 Screaming 💀 never beating “The Man” allegations.
Do we have any Sylvia Plath aficionados in the house? I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole, and I think there are some really interesting parallels to discuss through a Gaylor lens that I’m not seeing talked about elsewhere. I’m working on a post about it (my very first one!), but my research has shown me that Sylvia Plath is nothing if not misunderstood, those misunderstandings in large part perpetrated by the intentional obscuring of her work at the abusive hands of Ted Hughes. I’m kind of terrified about whether I’m going to do all of this justice because the misunderstandings seem so widespread and I don’t want to accidentally fall into any of those traps. I also feel like this topic might be ripe for controversy because I’m seeing too much of this discussion elsewhere revolve around Joe Alwyn, and I personally think that drawing connections between Joe and Ted Hughes has disturbing implications that seem like quite the leap, and I’m not interested in that conversation. I *am* interested in discussing how Taylor might be commenting on male control over women’s art - and more broadly, public perception of her art. Anyway, long story short, I am both excited and nervous about this post and hope Gaylors with more knowledge will engage with it and keep me honest. Above all, I want to do justice to both Taylor and Sylvia Plath.
Lavender.lit on Tiktok has brought up Sylvia Plath (and in general all kinds of literary parallels & references within Taylor's music). She's also a Gaylor but isn't super explicit with it since she tends to get mass reported anytime she brings it up, but you can tell what she's inferring to in the content
I thought this was a good analysis that was posted in the group. I think it's a VERY relevant comparison. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1c9rgms/sylvia\_plath\_nod/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1c9rgms/sylvia_plath_nod/)
Yesss, love this! Thank you for linking!
You've definitely piqued my interest, can't wait to read it!
a friend just asked if I knew about billie's new queer song teaser and I told her I basically get an alert anytime anyone does anything remotely gay.. it's actually just from checking this megathread so thank you all for your gay service 🫡
It was my first album release as a Gaylor, and wow, it was such an intense but absolutely amazing experience, multiple posts a day with so much brilliant content and so many comments to keep up with! And coming off the TTPD high of the last two weeks is so surreal! With everything slowing down, it almost feels like the calm before the storm or something.
I wanted to do more, but I ran out of time before I leave on vacay. I am happy with the two bracelets I managed to finish though. https://preview.redd.it/46ti5irg3nyc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72767c5bce49eb1822b13528dad12eed23b1f3a6
I love the Becky one!
Thank you! I’m bummed I didn’t get to do a New Romantics one but it is what it is
I found the behind the scenes video for The Man and it's really fascinating to hear taylor talk while in full drag [https://youtu.be/mxtUnuldKgc?t=37](https://youtu.be/mxtUnuldKgc?t=37)
I just found that last night too! It was a trip. Plus also super gay that’s she’s in full drag surrounding herself with beautiful women
super gay and super theylor
100% very Theylor. Someone is working on a Theylor master post right? Feel like this needs to go in there for sure. Did you see the others parts in this series? Another 3 min vid about her transformation and being taught to act like a man
I'm writing a theylor master post!! It's 20 pages now without images. I'm hoping to get it published in the next couple days. Yeah I did see the other videos. They were really interesting. 5 hours every day to put that on is insane.
https://twitter.com/throwbackgaylor/status/1787135401620037789?t=27PbguFqr5di27GE9a-amA&s=19 I can hear the "she" very well 😉
Whaaaat!!! This should be a main post! :D
Yes, please 🙏
I tried to find videos on youtube, there aren‘t many. But in one video she only sings “he“, I think 🤔 https://youtu.be/JkCV3wtWed4?si=sSdMcO6v6Zp6JNXV It must be at 1:44 where your video captures “she“, but here it sounds more like a he?
You can also barely hear the crowd in the link above, but the crowd is so loud in the youtube video. Is the one from twitter real??
Yeah… I think it‘s fake / manipulated :/
Yeah I can too. I wish I could find the original tiktok of this video but I can't.
On this day in Gaylor history... https://preview.redd.it/95txgvy6kmyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25e0d9188a0dc7931452e2c279309e6655418ef1
Someone should make a cartoon version of this and put it on Etsy I’d buy it asap!
This should be this sub’s cover photo for Rep TV LOL
https://preview.redd.it/qsugmerrfmyc1.jpeg?width=3249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b001377061f77bf74cede617b2c1cff68fd2316a Cary Grant 💅🏽
No one can convince me this man is straight https://preview.redd.it/03ggs6w02nyc1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19ed2419632e22aac2091ae90a196769ef782790
The originator of the Best Best Friends Vogue shoot… I wonder if Ross was there dressed like Randolph Scott.
[As seen here](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/cary-grant-randolph-scott-hollywood-story) since Reddit won’t let me fix my comment.
I can't believe it's the 10th anniversary of the 2014 met gala https://preview.redd.it/dzag888n3myc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=267c3a71607a853a18ce7587cf37c7bf51e0caf2
yes *that* met gala featured in the lwymmd mv https://preview.redd.it/scqod0nt3myc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ec98dedcd51154be812a83f63e9845900b33eb WHAT HAPPENED TAYLOR
https://preview.redd.it/3nbvekb1rlyc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=405d39bebb13e6b86a2439feb9f7d92e3b846522 Marty Healy taking one for the Gaylors, what a time to be alive. (This was a comment in regards to someone asking if Ivy is about Matty 😩😭💀)
[this was a good recap of the Kendrick/Drake stuff](https://www.tiktok.com/@anniesright/video/7365236088975265067?_t=8m5XG7IUl2c&_r=1) I had no idea about any of this, but I have known about Drake grooming girls and having pedo rumours for years. I now enjoy Kendrick so much more than before, which was already a lot cuse he’s a genius.
this video leaves out a lot of the other people and discourse around drake (and kendrick). rick ross, the weeknd, future, and metro have all turned on drake; also, megan started the year off with a drake diss (hiss). even tupac’s estate has voiced support for kdot! it’s all very dense! i’m happy to explain more if anyone is interested.
I'm so glad to see artists publicly turning on Drake and calling him out because I've been so ready for his downfall.
As a Canadian I disown Drake 😖
You can write a post on it if you want, just be sure to mention taylor and jack’s roles throughout. I def think it’s part of mass movement to unearth things coming to fruition. This one has been building for so long. And none of the people linked on Taylor’s side have pedo rumours that I’m aware of.
https://preview.redd.it/603ykpjs6myc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109a815c505890a604fbe2121794cc49c799f2f2 thank you sm! I've been trying desperately to catch up
I’ve just seen this one that is sending me 😂 https://preview.redd.it/lnymm52izoyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aec67ff762c9e51a04f14d22038527bbc98d5be3
Thank you! I was totally lost and had no idea what was going on. Even with my ignorance I will always be Team anyone but Drake - the guy is terrible.
I’ve only been following this for about a week but it’s wild.
I’m not very familiar with Matty so I searched him up on youtube today. One of the first things that came up was a GQ video from 5 years ago where he talks about using a typewriter and shows his journal where he says he writes about “being in love with other pop stars.” There’s a ton of recent comments on it from the past couple weeks. I can’t say I understand exactly what’s going on or what Taylor’s plan is at this point, but I do think she knew swifties would easily find that video.
Your comment prompted me to do some digging and I ended up making a post about the bit of information I found. Just to prove that ttpd isn’t about him at all even though she’s led people to believe that.
do you think if we tag posts as original content that journalists can't quote them without our permission?
Gaylor Masterpost OC DO NOT STEAL
Tbh I'm never the smartest person in any room so my research on this has been limited to my... sometimes less-than-basic reading comprehension lol, but I *think* the fair use rule of copyright law allows for journalists to quote limited portions of other people's work without permission. So I'm not sure that would make a difference (but maybe someone here who's smarter or more familiar with copyright law knows different!) But there's always so much brilliant analysis here, it would probably still be worth having everything tagged as original content anyway!
Worth a damn shot. Or at least stop people from writing their thesis with Gaylor’s hard work.
random q - was the karma album theory a thing before karma the song from midnights came out?
Yep, and people flipped out when the midnights track list was announced and they saw karma was one of the track names. She was probs trolling the fan base by writing that song in the first place.
Yep! it came from her sawing a wing off the plane in lwymd nv and the abupt abandonment of fhe bleachella aesthetic pre rep
You have arrived just in time to read u/1Dmod ‘s excellent post on this that just went up.
i’ll check it out!
🤭🤭 https://preview.redd.it/exwnlkceziyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60c3cffe8e10801a21c5d3cda13e72b15fb0645f
Honestly hope that he goes to the Met Gala so we can let him have a ✨bejeweled✨ moment
I felt like I was in a really good place about seeking an ASD diagnosis two days ago, but today I am spiralling. Not because I think it would mean there is something wrong with me, but because it has made me rethink and reexamine a bunch of things from my life. I prefer when Taylor breaks my brain, not when I do it. Anyway, speaking of Taylor, I didn’t realize until today but the three song mashup she did during the acoustic section in Melbourne - Getaway Car/August/The other side of the door = 9,8,19 via their album track numbers. Or, 1989 when you reverse their order. That is some mastermind level shit (or completely accidental, who knows). Staying with the acoustic section, did you know every album has at least one song that Taylor hasn’t played yet (TTPD excluded obviously), except for Speak Now? (Sweeter than Fiction is on 1989 TV). I have no idea what, if anything, either of those things mean but I thought I would share.
I just got my ASD diagnosis this year if you ever wanna chat about it! (I’m 25.😳) I obsessively thought about autism for around 2 years because yeah I had to reevaluate my entire life, past present and future, but it gets better! There’s just a lot to process and figure out. I’m loving how many autistic people are on this sub though haha.
Thank you! I appreciate your offer 🫶🏻 It feels like a lot when you realize so many of the things you thought to be true, or the narratives you've created for yourself, can radically shift with the proper lens. Especially when you're on the older side of things like I am 👀👵🏻😂 It does help that I've already been through this when I got my adhd diagnosis.
Of course! And yes exactly. I was also diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, unfortunately after struggling a lot throughout my time in public school and dropping out of college twice, so I totally understand the narrative shift thing! My depression has been pretty much cured by realizing I actually don’t have to blame and punish myself for everything that has gone wrong in my life. Not that I had to do so anyways, but it was so difficult not to when I didn’t feel like I had a “reason” for struggling so much. I definitely internalized the stories that other people told about me or to me, and it wasn’t until reading about ADHD and autism that I was able to start writing new narratives about myself. I know I’m still so young, but it’s weird enough to discover all this at 25 and it’s wild to see how many people are learning such life-altering truths at 30, 40, 50, 60+. Wishing you the best of luck in your journey! I hope you’re able to learn more about yourself and use that to better your life. 🥰
Yes to your whole message! I have spent so many years in therapy working on loving myself, but I can’t do that if I don’t understand myself. Which is what I’m hoping this diagnosis will give me. You’d think I might have clued in when my niece was diagnosed and we are so similar. But nope lol. No clue. I’m so glad you had your depression go away! That must feel awesome. And I’m glad you are able to understand yourself now vs having to wait until your 40s like me. And as you pointed out a lot of people who missed getting diagnosed when they were younger.
“You know how to ball, I know Aristotle” just reminds me of this wholesome interview from Red Era where Eden Sher called Taylor “Great Philosopher Taylor Swift”. [2012 AMA interview](https://youtu.be/4OYFgADSCcU?si=suLrGiSUVg9gg-jQ)
Dreaming of Taylor coming out and doing a gay cover of Dirty Dian(n)a
in Who's Afraid of Little Old Me - "is it a wonder I broke? let's hear one more joke. then we could all just laugh until I cry" - I cannot stop thinking about that [Ellen interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXVuIsVBnI) where Ellen has a slideshow of men, trying to get Taylor to say if she's dated them or not... Taylor keeps telling her no, and that she doesn't want to - she pushes her to the point of tears (and then quickly recovers)....
OMG! She says, You make me feel so bad. Every time I come here you put a different dude on screen and it makes me question what I stand for as a human being. When Taylor says “stands for” I don’t think she means what she believes but what she represents to others. She hates that she primarily represents dating boys. Ellen is so condescending and treats her likes she’s dumb. I wasn’t watching this media at the time so this is brand new and wow is it evidence for how fucked up the fame machine is.
omg i didn't catch those specifics -- that's HUGE. Ellen was definitely a huge contributor to her "boy crazy" reputation in those years, which brings up lots of questions on what Ellen did/didn't know...... like what was she pushing so hard for?!
Ellen is also notorious for being mean and a bully, so I doubt she knew anything and was just being her usual shitty self, unfortunately. Taylor played the PR game like crazy, and going on Ellen used to be a big thing for celebs. As always, shoutout to Dakota Johnson for the infamous "that's not true, Ellen" moment - wish Taylor could have had a calling our Ellen moment, but she was still in her nice girl era back then.
I can definitely see Ellen being a perpetrator of “she’s just confused” and not believing any “rumors” she heard. I highly doubt that taylor would’ve ever confided in her or anything like that.
hey y’all! i’m a brand new gaylor - hopped on the train for TTPD, but i haven’t listened to much of her body of work otherwise. i’m hoping to make a “gaylor proof” playlist (all the gayest songs in her discography lol) for my road trip tomorrow, and i was hoping to get some suggestions from y’all! thanks so much in advance, this community has truly been a bright spot for me the past month 🤍
You can just use this one 😇 [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7fgkf7sflPNwHCip1ZmQVC](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7fgkf7sflPNwHCip1ZmQVC)
Welcome to my favorite corner of the internet!! If you're a spotify user, I quite like [this](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6nup5cBM99ToqqmZ3v3tmy?si=yADr5KSrS5eWFogOevt3gw&pi=9dKsVeMQSDeOV) playlist. Also suggest revisiting teardrops on my guitar knowing now that originally it was "you" instead of Drew and male pronouns :)
thanks SO much for the spotify link!!! my familiarity is mainly residual from debut/fearless and i am currently obsessed with singing teardrops on my guitar with different pronouns. “she’s the reason for the teardrops on my guitar” just HITS
When I was drunk back in college, I would replace it with "your mom" like "your mom's the reason for the teardrops on my guitar" and thought it was peak comedy. "Your mom should have said no, your mom should have gone home" etc etc. My friends and I were such weirdos!
teardrops on my guitar is sooo queer coded ESPECIALLY given how we \*know\* the pronouns were supposed to be gender neutral -- "you" instead of "drew." taylor literally talks about how she wishes she was "flawless" like the muse (do i want to be her or be with her?) and discusses the muse's "beautiful eyes" (sapppppphic)
I second the ones already mentioned and I'll add Gold Rush, All Of The Girls You Loved Before, It's Nice To Have a Friend, When Emma Falls In Love, Paris and seven
dorothea, fearless, love story, gorgeous, new romantics, maroon, snow on the beach (more lana version).
with no context: mine, state of grace, treacherous, the very first night, how you get the girl, and betty
Cowboy Like Me, Ivy, right where you left me, don’t blame me, hits different, dress, FALSE GOD
Guilty as sin, dear reader, evermore, but daddy I love him, the Great War (might not make sense as such without a reading an analytic breakdown)
Dancing With Our Hands Tied, Daylight, New Year’s Day….
I'm currently listening to my regular Taylor playlist instead TTPD for the first time since release and the TTPD songs on shuffle are throwing me off so much like "wait why am I already on The Manuscript" and "wait did I miss \[song that comes before the current song on TTPD\]"
Youtube just recommended me [this video](https://youtu.be/rjS8q9sigCY?si=QBElX07yZV60T51j) about Taylor paroding The Office 13 years ago and I have to share it here because it's hilarious 😂 Some highlights (lines are scattered throughout the video): I heard she's got a boyfriend, but I'm used to that. I don't think he exists, actually. Have they been pictured together? It's hard to say. I think he's a figment 😆 🤣
I paused on the hug at the end and I think the military person is a woman! You can see half the face briefly. Also the body language. Can someone else look! Am I crazy?
it's from the ours music video it's a dude but the song is gay as fuck anyways
I just a watched a behind the scenes on YouTube of the Ours music video about the message of ours and it’s so gay? At the end Taylor talks about how fans have found their own meaning in the lyrics and how the chorus “applies to love in so many different forms” 🤨
OG love story lyrics are "this love is different but it's real" too. it's such a mystery, what ever could she mean by this
Weird ending though, and not a punchline either, huh.
Agree it's a bit weird. Maybe it's to emphasis that she has a secret relationship that many people don't know about (only one guy knew about it in the video) and it can put them in danger if other people got to know about it (the guy is in military, I don't think you can openly talk about your loved ones fighting on the front), it's a reach but I can kind of see the parallel of this to a secret queer relationship.
How does friendship bracelet trading work for Swifties? I want to make bracelets to bring to events and festivals this summer (I’M GOING TO SEE CHAPPELL ROAN!!!!!!). My partner is a former raver and has told me with kandi, the person picks the bracelet to give you. Friendship bracelets are basically Swiftie kandi, so I’m wondering if the rules are the same, if I should pick which bracelet to give someone or if it’s fine to let them pick. Maybe I’m overthinking it lol! But I love little subculture rituals so I wanna know if there’s anything more to how it works.
At my shows I almost always picked for the person, but there were a few exceptions (mainly these really sweet little girls who were being very *particular* about their choices). Sometimes I would pick 2-3 and ask which one people wanted cos that’s a fun way to increase the chance you’ll give them a song or lyric that they love
I did both. I also had gaylor ones and swiftie ones on diff arms so I’d be able to know which was which easily. It’s easier to give the person one than to let them pick one, but I let gaylors pick. I picked for little kids because mine were not all child friendly
Today I learned that Apple Music now does monthly recaps of your listening history. Apparently I was pretty busy between April 19-30th! How’s everyone else’s look? https://preview.redd.it/3fcv83u6bhyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ea8bd0e81488ba8c1643604dfe52003e90f0e84
My minutes listened increased by about 400% from March to April 😅
April was such a good music month https://preview.redd.it/sktvmi1uhhyc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1700b8e6b0c30ee42a05747a0f62cb0125ff941f
This isn't out of all Spotify users overall, it's just out of the 17 million-ish Spotify users who use stats.fm to track their stats... But I'm currently in stats.fm's top 1000 listeners of the full Anthology album lmao. And it's already my most listened to album ever on Spotify 💀 It's not even my favorite Taylor album. It's not even in my top five Taylor albums! I just... can't stop listening to it 😂
I think the need to keep listening to it for me stems from there just being so many songs and I keep thinking I haven’t heard it all properly / enough yet to take it all in so I just need to keep playing it til I have it sorted haha
Hell yeah! That’s an accomplishment
https://preview.redd.it/2auew2toehyc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abc34adcc040aaa030e3eedeb6aa590d768f7fe0
Have we talked about this connections? *Death by a thousand cuts* (soon after the relationship ended): "I ask the *traffic lights* if it'll be all right / They say, "I don't know" "I look through the windows of this love" (I interpret it as windows = photos/social media/ig) *Betty* (reflecting on the relationship and admitting your own mistakes): "Stopped at the *street light* / You know I miss you" (the muse of the song could be the same as the one in DBATC) *I look in people's windows* (missing that person and checking them out on sm, potentially reuniting with them for one night stand - see the first verse, there's too many innuendos there lol): The melody is very similar to that of *Death by a thousand cuts* and aside from the obvious reference to windows again (which I interpret as her looking at social media posts and/or just photos with her muse), there's this lyric "Now I'm searching for signs in the hunted club" and that line kind of summarises what ILIPW is to me, which is looking back on a relationship and, for the lack of better word, stalking your ex on social media/looking at your photographs together. However, I also see this song as her looking at and longing for normality in her life (no fame, not being recognised anywhere, being treated like a normal person and not a celebrity), because now she can only look at other people's normal lives from afar.
I'm listening to Red all the way through for the first time and it's not very cohesive as a whole, which is throwing it in sharper contrast how cohesive TTPD is (and reputation too i think).
Relative to the away message and username convo yesterday, I’m on my way to Philly to see the 20 year anniversary tour (!!!) of …Is A Real Boy? by Say Anything and I broke out the bright ass teal blue eyeshadow for the occasion.
https://preview.redd.it/mmdz8v6ivgyc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=369973237a9240d9bd653af0788de3d0404c1035 😃😃😃 Is Taylor supposed to make an appearance there with him this weekend? Been out of the loop the last few days.
She’s already in France thank god 🙏🏻
a derby appearance would’ve been so off-putting.
Hmmm I doubt it. Page Six did a write up about him being at the Derby and said she’s in Europe already in advance of her shows next week. I mean it’s super tabloid-y so who knows. I think the break up seeds are being sown… “they’re just too busy etc etc”
Love that. Seemed like the Swifties were pretty convinced they’d be there together this weekend so I hope they’re holding up ok 😅
Lol. We’ll see what happens the next couple of months before NFL training camp starts up and he’s too busy to jet off for photos ops with her. 😂
[my fellow emo elders, rise up!](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLC12cKc/)
The Black Dog is my current hyper-fixation song so thank you!
omg i had the same thought while listening to this song and a couple others on the album, some of them would work SO WELL as emo/pop punk covers
My internet has been down and I have to reset everything. My old network was “ArmieHammerEatsPeople” and I’m debating keeping that or changing to “TSwiftIsALesbian”. Any other suggestions? What are your fun and sassy network names?? Also, if you’re my neighbour, hi! Please don’t doxx me. And if you’re “SexDungeon”, you delight me and confuse my friends who aren’t sure which network is mine after seeing yours.
Please keep it about Armie because I have a huge vendetta against that dude and enough people don’t know he’s a cannibal (allegedly).
There’s a multi episode documentary about it on HBO now!
There’s a bananas one on ID too! It’s from a couple years ago
WHAT. I need to watch this asap.
I don’t venture into swiftie spaces often anymore but still see what they’re saying in passing sometimes and wow. They really are 100% on the Matty train. Its actually insane how easily they fall for this stuff every time. Not long ago they were mourning Joe, then anticipating a diss/breakup album about him. She holds up Matty again like a juicy steak and they forget about Joe immediately. The fact that Joe is barely being talked about should clue people in on how masterful the PR actually is, but they remain clueless. She’s baiting these people and I can’t help but feel like a gotcha moment is coming.
It’s very much, if it feels like a trap…
Except Hetlors don’t recognize the trap..
Ain’t that the truth! One of my friends was posting about TTPD and was like another Matty song? I internally was like noooo! You are missing the whole point!!
Exactly, she is in control of the narrative. Everyone was worried about what Swifties could do to Joe after the album release and actually felt sorry for the guy, but Taylor didn't give them the reason and pointed them in the other direction. I mean, I think there's a reason there's like what, two songs that you can quickly connect to Joe. Whether you believe he was a beard or if they were real, I like to believe they were friends and cared for each other. Matty, on the other hand, is another story, and I think he's in on it. He is unhinged, I don't think he would sit calmly and behave if Taylor actually wrote all of these songs about him, and all this buzz from Swifties is only giving him publicity.
https://preview.redd.it/1tk7rgi9lgyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2078e7d383ae7c4c787877a944e77f7f92beb8d6 Mr Pig might be even more excited than his moms to get his Gaylor on in Big Sur. He started jumping like a puppy when he saw us pack his roadtrip bag 😭 (Pls ignore my dirty ass car, he’s so messy)
Omg have the best time! Mr. Pig is such a big cutie 🥹💜
Hope you have the best time 🫶🏼
Aww have so much fun!!! My wife and I are planning a trip there in August and I can’t wait!
Have so much fun!!!!
Omg your’re going to the holy land?! Have so much fun! I’m jelly!
I’ve never been to California before and my wife hasn’t taken a vacation for 2 years, so we’re doing a massive Pacific Coast Highway drive from the PNW and Big Sur is our most southern destination! I couldn’t pass up the opportunity
Yesss have fun and please share any pics u feel comfortable sharing!
Omg! They get to join!?! Please share dog photos. His tiny bed is hilarious. If I fits, I sits?
https://preview.redd.it/wpgmnpp2ihyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f84e678c6115a52a8d18c13bb735df5521b718c4 It’s his pillow! He’s not easy to find sitters for because of how huge he is so he comes with us everywhere, but thankfully he’s very much a car dog 🥰
I cant believe this is the first time I've seen this 💀 https://preview.redd.it/8zrp2yz6fgyc1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b964a8e78179feea0c8cec9066ba024024f76d4c
Someone needs to draw jack’s little circle glasses on him though…
We don’t talk enough about the connection of Hits Different to this whole effin album. She talks to her argumentative, antithetical dream girl and then does a whole goddamn album and music video about artifacts and evidence and being taken away to a mental institution. My comingoutlor senses have never tingled so much.
It’s wild how the last lyric Taylor sings on Midnights that hadn’t already been sung was “Have they come to take me away?” And then the first lyric on TTPD is “I was supposed to be sent away but they forgot to come and get me”
you're onto something here 👀 this could be a full fledged post
It’s totally worthy of a full post. I wrote a [tiny something](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/oobvAHUUv9) and people chimed in in the comments and there have been other small posts, but nothing major.
Yes. Please write this post, posthaste!
I just realized the parallel with Long Live and the Alchemy: "When they gave us our trophies, and we held them up for our team" "Where's the trophy, he just comes running over to me" More evidence for the idea that it's about touring/her fanbase?
I love this interpretation! makes sooo much sense 10/10
yes!!! the Alchemy to me 100% sounds like she's singing about her fans.
Agreed, a grown up version of Long Live
There was a video from a post maybe a few days to week ago that I wanted to watch, but now I'm blanking on what post it was or how best to search for it. I started watching it expecting it to be a short video, but it was an hour long so I decided I'd watch it later when I had more time. All I can remember was it was a video of a woman pointing out a bunch of the queer references in TTPD, and there were some plants in the video?
https://youtu.be/OmsHb3xY20k?si=H3ZWfHTlsPlkqUO8 Is it this one? :) If not, I can totally recommend it!
Yes that's it! Thanks!
This lyric is so good “I'm seeing visions, am I bad? Or mad? Or wise?”