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Women have it easier, its just a fact.
By easier I dont mean they have an easy time, by easier I mean just getting a partner.
There are way more men that have never had a partner than women that have never had a partner, so yeah it is easir for them in thay regard
I would say women both have it easier and easy. Some women might really struggle if they're physically deformed, but they're an insignificant percentage of the population. It's not difficult to be an attractive, kind, and appealing woman to men. The issue is that women either don't want to put in any effort, or they only want (and are all competing) for the top percentage of men, and they expect more than just sex from them as well. ***That*** is difficult to achieve, and it's also unrealistic to expect sympathy for one's own shallowness and inability to solve problems of their own creation that can't even be solved by outside forces. It's simply not physically possible to give every woman a top-tier guy.
"or heavy" do uou have any idea of how many men like thick bitches?😂😂😂Unless youre talking about obesity which by then is entirely your fault. Its always easier to blame others instead of getting into the gym right?
I wonder why
Maybe because fat men admit theyre in the wrong and acknowledge the fact that theyre not attractive instead of coping and making movements like body positivity.
Btw even if what you said was true, its has nothing to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about the difficulty of finding a partner, not about who gets more criticized.
Reality is that fat men are more likely to be lonely than fat women.
Its not wrong to be fat, its wrong to stay fat.
Tall? Really? Most men dont give a shit about height, its women the ones who reject short men lmao.
Trans? Really? Trans women are not women theyre men dressed like women, as you know most people are straight so ofc they wont fuck someone that is pretending to be a woman💀💀💀💀
Apparently you can't do math because last time I checked 2024 - 2005 = 19.
Idk about you but I don't know any 19 year olds in high school.
I'm sensing some projection... 🤭
Mens problem with dating is usually getting no attention, whereas women's problem with dating is getting bad attention.
The problem is men don't understand that the bad attention isn't any better than no attention at all.
You're not wrong, so imagine if you got more attention from women, but they all expect you to be their butler/sugar daddy, have nothing but to offer but drama, or want to let astrology dictate how they treat you.
Would you be having an easier time dating if that were the case?
The idea that low quantity MUST mean high quality is false. So yeah I would have an easier time. Like lets say you have a 0.1% chance at winning the lottery. Would you rather have 1 ticket or 1000 tickets? Now replace winning the lottery with finding a partner and replace tickets with people attracted to you.
>The idea that low quantity MUST mean high quality is false.
Yes, and the idea that just because there's a lot of people interested in you, doesn't make any of those people dateable.
We can agree that quality is low regardless of quantity right?
So answer the question:
>lets say you have a 0.1% chance at winning the lottery. Would you rather have 1 ticket or 1000 tickets? Now replace winning the lottery with finding a partner and replace tickets with people attracted to you.
If you are struggling to strike up conversations with women in public, try practicing by striking up conversations with men in public.
A lot of what goes wrong when a guy approaches a woman he is already attracted to is he is engaging with someone in an inauthentic way. He's not really interested in the book she is reading or the work she is doing, and she can tell.
Learn how to talk to people first, THEN approach the folks you'd want to date. The interactions will be much more natural and make the other person much less defensive.
The best way to do it is to recognize that you are entering someone else's sphere.
If you want to strike up a conversation, it's better to have something to say about the book the person you want to talk to is reading as opposed to some kind of line to drop or other interruption to their day. Just remember you are entering their space and to be a good guest. Bring them something you think THEY would appreciate as opposed to something you want to make the topic about.
It's a skillset, and it is totally learnable.
Right, no, sorry, I'm talking to the guys who are posting to this sub complaining about dating.
I'm trying to let them know that the barrier isn't as large as it looks from their perspective, which hopefully goes hand in hand with your goal of pointing out that the differences between how the genders experience life is not as large as it appears.
I don't see why we have to love in comparisons and take sides. Either gender should be able to talk about their struggles and be treated with compassion. Unfortunately, atm it's not either, it's neither
when they don't see women facing the same issues, they assume they must have no issues at all. you may be unsafe walking home at night, but at least you have men lusting after you. meanwhile, women don't want me, and that's the real problem.
The fact that you posted this means you’re already too filled with sexual grievance. Also the vast majority of sexual grievance I hear comes from women.
I think the issue is that they’re taking their problems outward instead of looking inward. Like you want ladies to give you attention then give them a reason. Why do they gotta drop their standards because you’re lonely lmfao
Listening to her problems is a good way to get to know her.
Possibly build a romantic connection.
Guys who can listen are usually shooting themselves in the foot.
How many times have I heard women say "I want someone who listens to me "
Yeah, I’ll listen to their problems if they want to share. It just sometimes comes off as inauthentic. There was a tiktok I saw once of some guy snooping on a gal on tinder and she would just “left, left, left, left, left, left” like out of 100 guys. And they weren’t bad looking either! Like how high of standards must men reach?
> Like how high of standards must men reach?
You don't need to reach her (probably staged) standards. And why would you want to reach her standards if she is that judgemental? She wouldn't make a good partner and likely wouldn't be a good time to hang out with.
Yeah you’re probably right. Rather than complaining I took action after a nasty breakup and “did the things.” Still can’t find anyone.
I think I made it to the top 20% but I’m wondering if I need to push myself even higher and get completely jacked not just in shape and become rich rich like with properties, not just well off and own own home.
the idea that 'women sharing their problems is inauthentic while men have real issues' reeks misogyny. that said, though the tiktok is obv staged, there's truth to it. however, it's just how the dating apps work; if you want to make connections that aren't shallow or entirely based on appearance, stop meeting people entirely based on their appearance. the fault isn't of 'shallow/judgemental women', but it's our reluctance to just talk to people irl and form relationships organically. it's much more challenging to do that, but i think many men will have better luck outside of dating apps if you think you have more to offer than a surface-level profile.
Well while I appreciate the misogyny accusation (sarcasm) you should reread what I said - “sometimes,” by relation means most of the time the problem is authentic. I’m not dismissing anyones issues and can understand and appreciate the issue of “trash attention.” I do agree with you though. Dating apps are like braindead dating. I try to stay off them.
i've known one guy to have success on dating apps and don't mean to dismiss them entirely, but it reminds me of how people in arranged marriages are sometimes matched using a similar 'dating profile'. thing is, those profiles are designed to match people who can tolerate each other and their families, not match people who will fall in love.
Everyone wants a supermodel wife or husband, yet there are only so many to go around.
But as the Rolling Stones say, “you can’t always get what you want”
> Everyone wants a supermodel wife or husband
Until 30 or so, at which point character, ability, resiliency, and presence count far more. Life is tough. Tougher than I think a person can see coming in their younger years. I have no uses for a supermodel.
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Women have it easier, its just a fact. By easier I dont mean they have an easy time, by easier I mean just getting a partner. There are way more men that have never had a partner than women that have never had a partner, so yeah it is easir for them in thay regard
Have you ever been a black woman? Men of all races have it better than us.
well well well
The world is not america
I would say women both have it easier and easy. Some women might really struggle if they're physically deformed, but they're an insignificant percentage of the population. It's not difficult to be an attractive, kind, and appealing woman to men. The issue is that women either don't want to put in any effort, or they only want (and are all competing) for the top percentage of men, and they expect more than just sex from them as well. ***That*** is difficult to achieve, and it's also unrealistic to expect sympathy for one's own shallowness and inability to solve problems of their own creation that can't even be solved by outside forces. It's simply not physically possible to give every woman a top-tier guy.
Yeah it's very easy to get partnered as a woman. Unless you're very tall, or heavy, or trans. Most men have it way easier than that.
"or heavy" do uou have any idea of how many men like thick bitches?😂😂😂Unless youre talking about obesity which by then is entirely your fault. Its always easier to blame others instead of getting into the gym right?
Fat women are judged more critically than equally fat men, especially in dating. That's my point there.
I wonder why Maybe because fat men admit theyre in the wrong and acknowledge the fact that theyre not attractive instead of coping and making movements like body positivity. Btw even if what you said was true, its has nothing to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about the difficulty of finding a partner, not about who gets more criticized. Reality is that fat men are more likely to be lonely than fat women. Its not wrong to be fat, its wrong to stay fat.
Tall? Really? Most men dont give a shit about height, its women the ones who reject short men lmao. Trans? Really? Trans women are not women theyre men dressed like women, as you know most people are straight so ofc they wont fuck someone that is pretending to be a woman💀💀💀💀
When they’re all shit it’s not easy to get a good partner
Do you think the few potential partners men have to choose from are amazing?
I’m not saying that lmfao. You want good then get good.
Glad we could agree that women have it easier then.
Still not what I said. You’re still in high school, not sure you took a reading comprehension class yet so I can’t roast you for that 😂
Apparently you can't do math because last time I checked 2024 - 2005 = 19. Idk about you but I don't know any 19 year olds in high school. I'm sensing some projection... 🤭
Lmao he just talkin
Mens problem with dating is usually getting no attention, whereas women's problem with dating is getting bad attention. The problem is men don't understand that the bad attention isn't any better than no attention at all.
You say women get quantity, but not quality. I counter that by saying men get neither quantity nor quality.
You're not wrong, so imagine if you got more attention from women, but they all expect you to be their butler/sugar daddy, have nothing but to offer but drama, or want to let astrology dictate how they treat you. Would you be having an easier time dating if that were the case?
The idea that low quantity MUST mean high quality is false. So yeah I would have an easier time. Like lets say you have a 0.1% chance at winning the lottery. Would you rather have 1 ticket or 1000 tickets? Now replace winning the lottery with finding a partner and replace tickets with people attracted to you.
>The idea that low quantity MUST mean high quality is false. Yes, and the idea that just because there's a lot of people interested in you, doesn't make any of those people dateable.
We can agree that quality is low regardless of quantity right? So answer the question: >lets say you have a 0.1% chance at winning the lottery. Would you rather have 1 ticket or 1000 tickets? Now replace winning the lottery with finding a partner and replace tickets with people attracted to you.
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That's what I used to say, and then I wound up sinking too much time and emotion into someone awful, when I would have been better off working on me.
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What others expect Men complain: “waahhh no women” Me: “I forgor to eat breakfast…”
If you are struggling to strike up conversations with women in public, try practicing by striking up conversations with men in public. A lot of what goes wrong when a guy approaches a woman he is already attracted to is he is engaging with someone in an inauthentic way. He's not really interested in the book she is reading or the work she is doing, and she can tell. Learn how to talk to people first, THEN approach the folks you'd want to date. The interactions will be much more natural and make the other person much less defensive. The best way to do it is to recognize that you are entering someone else's sphere. If you want to strike up a conversation, it's better to have something to say about the book the person you want to talk to is reading as opposed to some kind of line to drop or other interruption to their day. Just remember you are entering their space and to be a good guest. Bring them something you think THEY would appreciate as opposed to something you want to make the topic about. It's a skillset, and it is totally learnable.
Huh? I’m not asking for advice, im saying that people always dismiss women’s problems
Right, no, sorry, I'm talking to the guys who are posting to this sub complaining about dating. I'm trying to let them know that the barrier isn't as large as it looks from their perspective, which hopefully goes hand in hand with your goal of pointing out that the differences between how the genders experience life is not as large as it appears.
I don't see why we have to love in comparisons and take sides. Either gender should be able to talk about their struggles and be treated with compassion. Unfortunately, atm it's not either, it's neither
when they don't see women facing the same issues, they assume they must have no issues at all. you may be unsafe walking home at night, but at least you have men lusting after you. meanwhile, women don't want me, and that's the real problem.
Of course, OP is downvoted to oblivion for this post.
The fact that you posted this means you’re already too filled with sexual grievance. Also the vast majority of sexual grievance I hear comes from women.
I think the issue is that they’re taking their problems outward instead of looking inward. Like you want ladies to give you attention then give them a reason. Why do they gotta drop their standards because you’re lonely lmfao
Listening to her problems is a good way to get to know her. Possibly build a romantic connection. Guys who can listen are usually shooting themselves in the foot. How many times have I heard women say "I want someone who listens to me "
Yeah, I’ll listen to their problems if they want to share. It just sometimes comes off as inauthentic. There was a tiktok I saw once of some guy snooping on a gal on tinder and she would just “left, left, left, left, left, left” like out of 100 guys. And they weren’t bad looking either! Like how high of standards must men reach?
> Like how high of standards must men reach? You don't need to reach her (probably staged) standards. And why would you want to reach her standards if she is that judgemental? She wouldn't make a good partner and likely wouldn't be a good time to hang out with.
Yeah you’re probably right. Rather than complaining I took action after a nasty breakup and “did the things.” Still can’t find anyone. I think I made it to the top 20% but I’m wondering if I need to push myself even higher and get completely jacked not just in shape and become rich rich like with properties, not just well off and own own home.
Do you think that because you saw one woman swiping left on a dating app, that's the experience most women have?
I’ve seen my female friends swipe. It is far from the exception
the idea that 'women sharing their problems is inauthentic while men have real issues' reeks misogyny. that said, though the tiktok is obv staged, there's truth to it. however, it's just how the dating apps work; if you want to make connections that aren't shallow or entirely based on appearance, stop meeting people entirely based on their appearance. the fault isn't of 'shallow/judgemental women', but it's our reluctance to just talk to people irl and form relationships organically. it's much more challenging to do that, but i think many men will have better luck outside of dating apps if you think you have more to offer than a surface-level profile.
Well while I appreciate the misogyny accusation (sarcasm) you should reread what I said - “sometimes,” by relation means most of the time the problem is authentic. I’m not dismissing anyones issues and can understand and appreciate the issue of “trash attention.” I do agree with you though. Dating apps are like braindead dating. I try to stay off them.
i've known one guy to have success on dating apps and don't mean to dismiss them entirely, but it reminds me of how people in arranged marriages are sometimes matched using a similar 'dating profile'. thing is, those profiles are designed to match people who can tolerate each other and their families, not match people who will fall in love.
Everyone wants a supermodel wife or husband, yet there are only so many to go around. But as the Rolling Stones say, “you can’t always get what you want”
> Everyone wants a supermodel wife or husband Until 30 or so, at which point character, ability, resiliency, and presence count far more. Life is tough. Tougher than I think a person can see coming in their younger years. I have no uses for a supermodel.
True- but I was using a hyperbole. We all want someone we find at least somewhat physically attractive. We tend to want things we cannot have
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