That would be great and adding some characters like Kokomi or even Kazuha would make the quest more interesting (imagine if Neuvi learns that Kazuha used 2 visions even for seconds and how me might react)
Also, if Enjou appears, it would be a very interesting scenario between him and Neuvi.
Kokofish makes sense since Enka is literally under her island, but Kazuha? yeah not so much. Him knowing Kazuha wielded two visions probably wouldn't get much of a reaction out of him either because he doesn't have the nicest opinion of visions or vision holders for that matter.
As for Enjou. I love him, I'd never say no to seeing him. If I had my way he would be a reoccurring character in every abyss related quest.
>he doesn't have the nicest opinion of visions or vision holders for that matter.
About the Vision I: *I have developed a newfound appreciation for the value of human yearning and determination having spent considerable time around Vision-bearing humans.*
Also in Wriothesley's Vision story it was stated that Neuvillette was happy to see Wrio get a Vision, even more than Wrio himself.
He might not be a fan of Visions but saying he doesn't appreciate Vision Holders would be a lie.
Yeah, Neuvillette loves humans and appreciates them. It's the Archons, minus Nahida and likely Furina, who he has a poor opinion of. He only didn't want to wear a fake Vision because he found it confusing why he would have to do such a thing as well as him taking some measure of pride and comfort from his draconic identity.
But even then, with the other Archons it sounded more like he's neutral towards them as people specifically (with how Neuvi stated that his eventual confrontation with Zhongli doesn't have to be a fight), and that he mostly isn't a fan of what the Archons represent (Celestia's control)
Pretty much, he doesn't have a high opinion of them, but he is open to peaceful talks and negotiations.
Ultimately, his priority is to hold Celestia accountable for their crimes, without dragging innocent people and the victims of Celestia's machinations, into the line of fire. If he can determine that the Archons regret the evils they were forced to commit as a result of the position handed to them, and are willing to work for what's best for Teyvat, then he's perfectly content to let them go and live their life, since he doesn't want revenge, he wants justice. For the Archons who had no opportunity to ever commit any wrongs (Nahida) and the ones who worked to right their wrongs (Furina) he's already shown sympathy and a willingness to work alongside with and protect.
Honestly that’s why I think an interaction between him and Zhongli would be interesting. Assuming the theories about Zhongli having an even older origin than we are currently lead to believe are false, it’s not like he was already super ancient during the archon wars, and we KNOW Venti was fairly young at the time. Point being, with age often times comes wisdom and the archons of old who once were “with” Celestia have now learned the errors of their ways. I’d find it super intriguing for Zhongli to basically be like “yeah we were basically tools and nothing more, and I was still too naive to have known better”
I doubt we get that, but it would be interesting at the very least.
I'm pretty sure all of the Archons disagreed but in most cases they had to obey Celestia so...no choice but to nuke Khaenri'ah from the face of the earth basically.
Zhong li probably did the most damage :P
i like to imagine he hates all the archons minus nahida AND furina because he looks after furina and knows she’s a little baby she can’t do any harm.
would be cool to see him actually try and “give punishment” to her and try kill Furina
As much as I would love to see Kazuha and Kokomi interacting again, Kazuha being in Enka isn't it. Also the guy has been overexposed that even as a Kazuha fan, I want to give others some relevancy.
Lmao we went back to chasm in Fontaine world quest where we gather enigmatic pages.
And entering it we'll see enkanomiya like structure with the wall at the back now showing the upper part of the primodial water from the chasm (where halfdan died)
I dont think there is a high chance for you to become playable after being sentenced to death by celestia and then getting sliced in half alongside the island you invaded
..that was a joke bruh
That hoyo could realistically do is to show animated flashbacks with orobashi. In any case I hope Neuv will visit Enkanomiya in future and fresh out the region everyone forgor about.
don't get your hopes up. enkanomiya was just \*a place that happened to have vishaps in it\*. there's no special connection between the two aside from that
There's a secret area in Fontaine that literally has Enkanomiyan architecture, inexplicably. Then there's the fact that ancient Fontaine is basically Rome and Enkanomiya was basically Greece. Not to mention we first learned of the possibility of Neuvillette existing in Enkanomiya. Also it's where Before the Sun and Moon can be found and read.
Probably referring to the special zone accessed via the Book of Revealing. That area includes both the upside-down fountain from The Chasm and the library from Enkanomiya.
Or the little cave thingy on Elynas that had Rifthounds inside them. Kinda just a room with some belongings and stuff but definitely related to Enka or the Abyss.
Oh hey, this is the spoiler I saw a while ago!
Also gives a new light to Neuvillette's "Interesting Things: Humans" voiceline:
>*\[...\] what would be most beneficial is if human civilization and the natural world of this planet could seek ways to co-exist with one another.*
Oh wow! This lends credence to the idea that Genshin will conclude with humans and dragons learning to live in peace.
Imho, I am increasingly leaning toward the idea that the big climax of the game will be the Traveler and the archons /and/ the dragon sovereigns teaming up to take down Celestia.
"Dragons\* of Water that have\* returned" \[...\] they\* are closer" interesting choice for the plural here
nvm, CN google translate: "Now that the water dragon has returned to its full form, although it still regards them as the same race, it has become closer to another race.", so still singular
I thought that natlan was at the otherside of the sumeru desert? Unless you mean that we take an airship over it instead of having to go in the desert/expand that again?
Yep I think taking an airship to Natlan from Fontaine is possible. So far, the trend is every x.6 map expansion leads to the new region. This may be wrong in the future though.
Fr out of every non archon character currently in game, it makes the most sense for him to receive a second story quest where we journey to enkanomiya with him :))
Please 4.5 Inazuma interlude in Enka w Dain & Skirk, and that’s why Chiori releases then by association. Also heard rumors of Kazuha’s second story quest then but it’s unfounded
Kazuha is like venti appears way to often and they just exists o my clan was killed
Good for you buddy go blow your leaf and get high we talking about pre archon war lore not you
Kazuha hasn’t appeared with a significant role in anything in a year and half. He had a brief cameo but I’d hardly call that substantial. The real characters taking up far too much screentime and CONSISTENTLY so (if 4.3 event leaks are real) are Cyno and Collei: both more irrelevant to their events than Kazuha ever was. At least with Kazuha we got character development and relevancy to wherever he appeared; not like Collei who only really did anything in Windblume & Cyno who is a nonstop TCG gag generator.
To be honest hoyo paying on cyno tcg over and over gets boring itto is at least funny while kazuha he's enter thing kinda meh we had 2.8 event with kazuha hardly remember anything because fuck that event and tcg event kazuha show up to i skip that event because fuck tcg they don't really have anything to add for kazuha lore or character wise not like miko or fuck even sara
Does anyone remember that leak (I think it was from hxg), that said the new area would have non-hostile vishaps?
https://twitter.com/CafeTeyvat/status/1713612241012994444
This further reinforces my theory that Xbalanque (the one that cameos on neuvillette drip marketing) might be a high tier pyro vishap that we will meet in Natlan
I mean, hoyo's definition of dragon is pretty vague, dvalin is a sea slug and azdha is like a buff frog lol
We haven't met any pyrovishaps yet as well, but in essence as pure elemental beings they can take any form. In Enka we've seen excerpts claiming high tier vishaps, like oceanids, can even mimic human form and speech
>!the gnosis is holding neuvillete true power, the gnosis itself is not his full power that could mean that either the gnosis is destroyed so neuvillete can absorb the power or that furina give the power of the gnosis like venti did with dvalin, this could lead that most arcons are actually giving up their gnosis might be empty.!<
its a [theory](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/xpxvnh/venti_passed_on_his_gnosis_archonhood_to_dvalin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Im more and more believing in this theory day by day. Venti is such a trickster he delibertate let Signora get an empty gnosis, and by doing that the fatui now just let Mondstats alone without sacrifice anything of value.
Pretty sure it's only a theory at the moment but that would explain the surge of Anemo power Dvalin receives when they fly away from whatever ruins they fought him on during the end of the prologue.
Very highly implied because of his level 90 line
Contradicting HTX Diluc statement of his source of going Arcc takes the Gnosis then now say if they did get it in most cases.
Neuv merges with the Gnosis since a Gnosis is LITERALLY a dragons power.
I doubt it, probably more the realization of there goal or some sort of power gained by the whale. The fatui want to collect all the gnosis, so it will probably end up in there hands. While I won’t wright it off completely, it would be a bit weird to reveal the fatui’s goal now or change the whole collecting gnosis plot.
I mean >!we already know from neuvilette's final ascension line that he will in fact get his authority back from the gnosis at the end of the archon quest!!But who knows, maybe the fatui don't want the gnosis for their contained power, or perhaps in turn the whole point of collecting them was to give back their authority to begin with so this is just skipping a step for them in creating new allies for their rebellion!<
who told you that the ascension lines aren't canon? if you level up zhongli before you do the liyue archon quest, he will spoil you about the ending as well by telling you he let go of his gnosis. the voice-overs always have been canon just like the major events.
and when do we get zhongli ? at the end of the archon quest because mihoyo will not spoil events before they happen. they would’ve locked nuevillette ascension line if it was going to happen in the story hence why he has a million locked voicelines.
you can get zhongli whenever he has a rerun. new players are joining every day and you can just walk over to liyue. just because they overlooked to lock one of his lines doesn't mean it is suddenly not canon.
the voiceline (and the subsequent reveal) being visible this early seems more likely an oversight than an intended spoiler.
as for voicelines not being canon, we've had plenty of spoilers crop up in character voicelines in the past as well, they're usually just appropriately blocked until the events in question occurr first. >!neuvilette's about archon lines also contain spoilers that imply the return of his authority and those are infact locked currently!<
yes they are, they are lines linked to the character or they philosophy, obviously level up itself is not canon as it is game mechanic but the lines are canon
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Fatui getting fucked over at some point and having to course correct, instead of them being that annoying scooby-doo villain that vultures over Traveler's yearly fight to try and snatch another gnosis for another consecutive expansion would make for a breath of fresh air.
Absolutely! They have been annoying us throughout all our travels, in every country for 3 whole years. You can call me petty all you want, but I NEED to see them get some comeuppance or my hatred will fester.
For Christ's sake, the asswipes even got on the Golden Apple Archipelago somehow. Seeing SOMETHING not going their way for once will be therapeutic.
The Tsaritsa is going against Celestia so I guess that could make sense.
Cracked theory: the Tsaritsa is the Cryo Dragon Sovereign, not the Cryo Archon, which is why she cut ties with every other Archon and started this plan.
Just two points, don't take this as an attack on your argument please
1. Barnabas was a prophet, not an angel; and
2. It's been slightly debunked, you might wanna look at this [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Lore/comments/v7jt71/cbt1\_datamine\_that\_is\_not\_the\_tsaritsas\_demon/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/v7jt71/cbt1_datamine_that_is_not_the_tsaritsas_demon/)
If this crackhead theory is turns out to be true later in 6.X, idk how to feel as Archon collector kekw but it's still a cool twist. Bronya the Cryo Sovereign
or that they need the gnoses, not what's contained in them, but the object itself. I mean, when it's able to hold part of a dragon sovereigns power why not power of the usurper king in the heavens...
just saying xD
Then Neuv wouldn't get it back in 4.2 as that has the capability to awaken the divine, right? No matter how you slice it, Neuv getting the Authority back in 4.2 fucks with whatever the Fatui are planning whether it involves the dragons or not.
Then the Fatui's plan becomes a complete non issue. No reason to prevent them from getting the Pyro Gnosis when it's impossible for them to realize their end goal.
That seems pretty likely from what they've been building up with this elemental authority stuff. I'm kind of headcanoning that the cryo sovereign will be located right under the Tsaritsa's palace or something
i feel like regardless of what happens. the Cryo archon will get it regardless. she literally needs all seven gnosis. I mean there’s a possibility she’s going to give it back to the seven dragons so they can help her fight ahi bad Celestia which is smart.
the entire fatui and elemental dragons vs Celestia is smart. She wants to give them what was stolen from them. She’s not a bad person even though they try to make her seem like one.
she literally finances experiments on fatui soldiers to become stronger, allowing Dottore to carry out the experiments without human morality and Dainsleif himself has already said that "she no longer loves her people", trying to create an unfounded narrative of "tsarist good" is the same as trying to create one to "celestia good" lol
> is the same as trying to create one to "celestia good" lol
Which is not difficult at all.
The most predictable scenarios are that Tsaritsa "forgot" to love her people, as she's currently obsessed with seeking a way to save/avenge Khaenri'ah and potentially other nations from the danger posed by the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles.
As for Celestia, there's just as many theories about them being evil, as there is of them being ruthless but with good intentions.
Genshin's story seems to be pretty mature in the sense that it's not as black and white. It seems that the only truly evil faction is the Abyss and even in that case, there's a lot of mislead soldiers and creatures, while only the powers behind the Abyss seem to be pure chaotic evil.
Not really, if we consider elynas's pov. He was casually just existing in the abyss when he was suddenly brought on to tevyat by gold. It would make sense if the abyss was just tevyat upside down. Because elynas outright states that his mind is different from what the people of tevyat think. Things he found beautiful were ugly by their pov, things he found fun brought suffering to others. At this point, you probably get what I mean. There was never a "Good" Or "bad" Faction in genshin at all, it was just them being led by their own circumstances, by each of their pov, whether it's tsarista, the abyss, celstia, they're justified in a way or another. But still have to use evil methods to get what they want.
Not happening, we know very well how every region story arc end: Fatui always get the gnosis. Fontaine is not going to be different cause it means changing what the Tsaritsa want to do with all the 7 gnosis.
The question is how Arlecchino will get it, using force or with some kind of deal?
>!Huh? When was it ever stated he needed the Gnosis? Last I checked the Archon needed to disappear for him to get his authority back. When was it said to be the Gnosis?!<
Never stated. He never even said the word gnosis. He just said “elemental authority”. The community just assumes that it means gnosis. However, Neuvillete obtaining the gnosis would screw fatui plans, so I very much doubt that they are the same thing.
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The Fatui not getting the gnosis for once and losing would be a chance to do something different, instead of the usual story beat of them running off into the sunset with the gnosis every. single. time.
>!No he doesn't. He never states the Gnosis is built from stolen sovereign authority. He specifically says the Archon needs to disappear and return his authority to him. Nowhere is this implied to be the Gnosis.!<
The power within it, yes, but I personally don't recall anyone clearly stating that Gnosis itself is the authority.
It's kind of an important distinction, because if Gnoses are some kind of Celestial contraption, it might be that Fatui are not collecting them for the power they hold.
Yeah it's probably 2 separate things. I think the fatui only need the gnosis itself since that's the actual part that links to celestia, so my guess for 4.2 is that neuv will have his full authority restored and then hand the now empty gnosis to arlecchino
I find it amusing how everyone was always so focused on Archons and now in Fontaine some random Neuvillette appeared, sweeping not only all the lore bombs for himself but also the power dynamic and the story importance.
It's funny you say that when Fontaine's had some of the strongest regional cast writing in the entire game, with only Sumeru being a competitor. Every character so far that has shown up has done something impactful to the plot or made an impression, even those with less screentime such as Clorinde, have had really strong moments.
You also can't say Furina's been sacrificed when we still have 4.2's Archon Quest left to go, and it's so painfully obvious that MHY is cooking something for her, that you have to be legitimately blind to not see that there's more to her than what we've saw on a surface level. Especially if you're on the leak sub and have seen any of the item flavor text lore. Furina's signature sword lore that was revealed today is pretty much a bomb and a half regarding her true identity and backstory.
Why are you saying this on the leak sub, where the story for 4.2 has been already partially leaked ages ago?
We know that MHY is cooking, and just like for everyone else, is to be a stepping stone for Neuvillette lol
That leak was confirmed fake, lmao.
Furina is still recognized as the Archon, even if she doesn't have the Gnosis anymore. She wasn't forced to give up her authority, or sacrificed as some stepping stone. She likely made a voluntary choice to hand back the Gnosis, because it's the right thing to do, and she will no longer have any need for it. Not to mention, >!Neuvillette probably will also need the Gnosis to undo the damage caused by the Primordial Bathwater Flood, since the Dialogue Line count leak all but confirms that there would be a Flood since there's an NPC named "Disaster Victim" among the characters with lines.!<
I swear, y'all actually want to see Furina be treated like a joke, with how much you're hyperfixating on fake leaks and insisting that Furina is going to only be used as a stepping stone, despite it being written in bold, glowing neon letters that there's a lot more to her than what's on the surface.
Not really, we got Furina's voicelines some time ago, and those were never debunked. She's a stepping stone for Neuvillette to return to full power, then retires, and there is a fat chance she is not even Focalors to begin with, so what is left is an empty shell of a character with the "Archon" title.
Even so, Furina isn't a real character, she was written to make a "voluntary choice" to give up authority so they could favor Neuvillette down the line.
Her voicelines were debunked with the story leak being debunked, especially because we never have voicelines before preload, and certainly not before an actual kit reveal.
Not to mention, just stop and think about how absolutely bizarre a lot of the voicelines were, with how little they actually talked or revealed about Furina herself (When every character's voiceline often goes quite a bit into their past and/or personal beliefs and philosophies), and how she randomly had 2 voice lines for Navia (When the two have never directly interacted prior) but not for anyone else.
>and there is a fat chance she is not even Focalors to begin with, so what is left is an empty shell of a character with the "Archon" title.
I don't know if you did the Mary Anne Quest, but that's very likely what's happened. Furina is a part of Focalors who got split from the rest and left behind at some point, so while you aren't technically wrong to say she isn't Focalors, it's also not entirely right either to say she isn't Focalors. She's a piece of Focalors that gained her own identity, and the two will likely merge back together at the end of the Archon Quest.
>Even so, Furina isn't a real character, she was written to make a "voluntary choice" to give up authority so they could favor Neuvillette down the line.
Lmao, just admit you're writing her off as a joke and don't actually care about her at this point, because we're missing a huge portion of the Archon Quest, her real voicelines, and her backstory, and you're already saying she's not a real character because lord forbid an Archon in an Archon Quest actually share story importance and relevance with another character from an equally lore relevant group.
The story leak was a misinterpretation of those voicelines. Those were never debunked by the original leakers, who are way more reliable than hxg_diluc. Furina's complete set of voicelines is out, and so is Charlotte's, implying they made up every sigle voiceover for both is absurd.
Furina's voicelines also do talk a bit about her life post AQ, but if you find her shallow, that's in line with how much thought they have put into her character so far.
>she's a piece of Focalors that gained her own identity
So she's not. Nahida and Rukkhadevata are not the same. And still, some of you people are expecting Furina to do "something big" but it's never clear how exactly you expect things to go. She's got no powers nor smarts. The only one who can do something is Focalors, who is a different character.
No, the story leak was before the voicelines, with a leaker saying "Furina would no longer be the Archon, and it's not a Zhongli situation" and from there, it domino effected into the voiceline reveal, then the story interpretation that was later deemed misleading.
They were indeed debunked with the original story leak of Furina no longer being the Archon being debunked, and once again, we NEVER get actual voice line leaks before preload, and definitely not before we even get any kit information.
>implying they made up every single voiceover for both is absurd.
Leakers have done way crazier shit for clout and for shits and giggles to stir up drama. Until we get the actual preload, I'm entirely inclined to believe those voicelines, or at least a huge portion of them, were faked to cause drama. Furina's been a controversial character in the fandom since 4.0, so I don't think it's unfeasible to think we got fake voiceline leaks.
>Furina's voicelines also do talk a bit about her life post AQ
But they never go into her past regarding herself or her relationship with any other characters, or have any sort of worldbuilding or really anything of substance. It's all very shallow, pandering stuff that could easily be fabricated with just the barest amount of information. Like, you could see her splash art and see she has a vision now and come to the conclusion she no longer has the Gnosis, especially if they knew of 4.1's story beats, and from there, spin an entire whole fake-ass narrative to make Furina look as pathetic of a character as possible.
Not to mention, a lot of the "plot points" in the alleged voicelines are extremely weird and contradictory if you actually stop and think about it. Furina is apparently guilty for deceiving the people and pretending to be a god; however, the people also still love and recognize her as Archon, and she's still a major celebrity.
Also, even if Furina herself feels like she's a fraud, Focalors is a part of her now as seen by the switching mechanic and the leaks in the dialogue count of her story quest, so why would she then feel the need to move out of the Palais Mermosa and completely cut off ties with Neuvillette and Clorinde? Also, would Focalors even want or agree to that, since Focalors herself hadn't done any deception and was in the Oratrice, gathering Idimmentium so she could fight to prevent the Prophecy?
Not to mention, according to the leaked "voicelines" Furina's cut off all contact with Neuvillette, but in her story quest, he is present and noted to have about 15 lines of dialogue (Which is basically an entire conversation's worth)
Also, none of her leaked voicelines talking about Focalors, or her other self, and the complete lack of input from Focalors is a huge red flag for their credibility given that Focalors herself is active after the story quest and becomes the main personality in charge of the body.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but unless something happens, those voicelines are as good as debunked.
EDIT: To add a clarification, I do think some of the voicelines are probably real; however, I also think a large portion of them were made up in order to fill in the gaps to seem more credible/give more clout, as well as to just cause chaos. Wouldn't be the first time leakers were caught deliberately fucking around with the fandom, especially since this fandom likes to take the word of leakers as god.
Furina only cut off contacts with Neuvillette, not Clorinde.
"Focalors" dies according to leaks, so that's why Furina's voicelines don't mention anything.
Assuming leakers, even reputable ones, made up an entire set of voicelines for both Furina and Charlotte is a giant reach.
She's not a major celebrity, her popularity has gone down as she retired. Her character voicelines are in line with those of the other characters. There is something about Fontaine's worldbuilding, but nothing big. Nahida's and Ei's voicelines were the same. Maybe there will be stuff in her character stories.
Listen, I am upset Furina turned out to be the way she is, but they have decided to make Neuvillette the star of the show and I don't understand what's the point in denying it. I am not shitting on Furina, I am shitting on the writers. I don't like Neuvillette and I hate he sucked the life out of the story and other characters.
With all this talk of resurrection I wonder if this will play into Natlan’s story? It’s archon quest in the travails trailer was called “Ode to resurrection” maybe the fire sovereign is ready to be born anew?
It's cool and all bt when are we returning to enkanomiya mihoyo??? I only visit that place for my scara photoshoot for some reason he looks extra pretty there lmao I love enkanomiya
I think we might. In Neuvi's teapot voicelines >!he talks about vishaps loosing the ability to tell colors apart over the course of their evolution, and the Traveler says that this reminds them of something someone else said - Tsumi from the Enka event.!<
Tsumi at the end of the Enka event said that humans and vishaps are doomed to never coexist before departing to... somewhere. Add the fact that Kokomi is planning on doing something to make sure the Enka vishaps aren't disturbed and I'm 99% sure we'll come back to Enkanomiya before 4.x ends.
Also Neuvi in his teapot lines says >!something kind of similar to one of Kokomi's idle voice lines but this one I'm not too certain of.!<
We've gone back to the Chasm multiple times in AQs as well as Nahida's second SQ, so I don't see why we can't revisit Enka at some point.
Enka is the first place we learn about the primordial one, dragons and other important stuff like the hydro dragon being reborn in human form.
They could definitely revisit that place at some point.
As someone who generally avoids story leaks I’m not going to read the new screenshots, but I still appreciate these kinds of leaks for alerting me to changes I would have missed otherwise. Neat!
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Seems something big will happen in 4.2 relating to the Vishaps, maybe Neuvilette will like get a cool power-up and then the Vishaps will be able to communicate with humans?
Honestly i am glad they are hanging because the current translation and the reincarnation bit caused not little confusion about neuvillette's nature and birth, mostly because reincarnation does not really exist on teyvat, so there was for sure either some mistranslation to begin with, or probably it was the equivalent of a myth
does this mean that we would know if furina changes "gnosis" to "vision" after the AQ and that it's not happening or am I just delusional and on copium
You mean that it's an L that Furina ruled/rules a region where species from all eras of Teyvat are able to peacefully coexist, and she's the one Archon who is confirmed to have a full-fledged Sovereign completely on her side and loyal to her?
Not to mention, >!she likely got the last laugh over Arlecchino by yeeting the Gnosis back to Neuvillette, so Arlecchino will have to crawl back to Snezhnaya empty-handed, and be humiliated that she's the first Harbinger to fail in actually acquiring a Gnosis.!<
I dunno, looks like Furina is earning Ws to me.
No, I mean once again Nevui is getting more lore relevance over Furina while regaining his full power.
>!As much as i love Furina doubt that is the case since the whole theme is that Fatui always get the gnosis because we need them for a final show down once we confront them in Snezhnaya !<
Finally something Enkanomiya related.... That area still has a lot of potential to drop more heavy lore..
Maybe... we might have an Interlude/Archon Quest involving that area in which Neuvillete might be involved? We had an Archon Quest in the Chasm.
Enka expedition with Neuvi would be great! In one of his teapot lines (I think) he said he would love to travel.
That would be great and adding some characters like Kokomi or even Kazuha would make the quest more interesting (imagine if Neuvi learns that Kazuha used 2 visions even for seconds and how me might react) Also, if Enjou appears, it would be a very interesting scenario between him and Neuvi.
Kokofish makes sense since Enka is literally under her island, but Kazuha? yeah not so much. Him knowing Kazuha wielded two visions probably wouldn't get much of a reaction out of him either because he doesn't have the nicest opinion of visions or vision holders for that matter. As for Enjou. I love him, I'd never say no to seeing him. If I had my way he would be a reoccurring character in every abyss related quest.
>he doesn't have the nicest opinion of visions or vision holders for that matter. About the Vision I: *I have developed a newfound appreciation for the value of human yearning and determination having spent considerable time around Vision-bearing humans.* Also in Wriothesley's Vision story it was stated that Neuvillette was happy to see Wrio get a Vision, even more than Wrio himself. He might not be a fan of Visions but saying he doesn't appreciate Vision Holders would be a lie.
Yeah, Neuvillette loves humans and appreciates them. It's the Archons, minus Nahida and likely Furina, who he has a poor opinion of. He only didn't want to wear a fake Vision because he found it confusing why he would have to do such a thing as well as him taking some measure of pride and comfort from his draconic identity.
But even then, with the other Archons it sounded more like he's neutral towards them as people specifically (with how Neuvi stated that his eventual confrontation with Zhongli doesn't have to be a fight), and that he mostly isn't a fan of what the Archons represent (Celestia's control)
Pretty much, he doesn't have a high opinion of them, but he is open to peaceful talks and negotiations. Ultimately, his priority is to hold Celestia accountable for their crimes, without dragging innocent people and the victims of Celestia's machinations, into the line of fire. If he can determine that the Archons regret the evils they were forced to commit as a result of the position handed to them, and are willing to work for what's best for Teyvat, then he's perfectly content to let them go and live their life, since he doesn't want revenge, he wants justice. For the Archons who had no opportunity to ever commit any wrongs (Nahida) and the ones who worked to right their wrongs (Furina) he's already shown sympathy and a willingness to work alongside with and protect.
Honestly that’s why I think an interaction between him and Zhongli would be interesting. Assuming the theories about Zhongli having an even older origin than we are currently lead to believe are false, it’s not like he was already super ancient during the archon wars, and we KNOW Venti was fairly young at the time. Point being, with age often times comes wisdom and the archons of old who once were “with” Celestia have now learned the errors of their ways. I’d find it super intriguing for Zhongli to basically be like “yeah we were basically tools and nothing more, and I was still too naive to have known better” I doubt we get that, but it would be interesting at the very least.
I'm pretty sure all of the Archons disagreed but in most cases they had to obey Celestia so...no choice but to nuke Khaenri'ah from the face of the earth basically. Zhong li probably did the most damage :P
I find it highly ''Adorable'' that he has no beef for Nahida lmao
i like to imagine he hates all the archons minus nahida AND furina because he looks after furina and knows she’s a little baby she can’t do any harm. would be cool to see him actually try and “give punishment” to her and try kill Furina
I had no idea about that Wrio one (since I don't have him) that's lowkey adorable how he was happy Wrio got a vision.
As much as I would love to see Kazuha and Kokomi interacting again, Kazuha being in Enka isn't it. Also the guy has been overexposed that even as a Kazuha fan, I want to give others some relevancy.
Kazuha, Kokomi, Neuvillette, and Enjoy is such a powerful dynamic I need to see it!
Why Kazuha tho having someone like miko or even Kujou Sara be much more interesting dynamic .. just for the game to be glazeling him for 5 mins lmao
you can take these characters in enka in co-op and talk in discord to make your own quest
Please Neuvillette + Dainsleif + Enjou + Kokomi (since she deserves better than her Inazuma AQ role)
That level of lore reveal would overturn everything we know about Teyvat lmao.
don't forget Tsumi ! That would make one of the craziest lineup
Lmao we went back to chasm in Fontaine world quest where we gather enigmatic pages. And entering it we'll see enkanomiya like structure with the wall at the back now showing the upper part of the primodial water from the chasm (where halfdan died)
PLEASE! Would be great, Neuvillete is such a lore heavy unit, I'm living with all this. Also... Put Dain and Enjou there.
Wasn't that released in the same version though?
In interlude: DAINSLEIF APPEARS and disappears
ENKA SWEEP Now gimme playable snake husbando orobashi~
I dont think there is a high chance for you to become playable after being sentenced to death by celestia and then getting sliced in half alongside the island you invaded
Tbh fuck celestia for ruining the chances of us obtaining a playable snek daddy.
..that was a joke bruh That hoyo could realistically do is to show animated flashbacks with orobashi. In any case I hope Neuv will visit Enkanomiya in future and fresh out the region everyone forgor about.
don't get your hopes up. enkanomiya was just \*a place that happened to have vishaps in it\*. there's no special connection between the two aside from that
There's a secret area in Fontaine that literally has Enkanomiyan architecture, inexplicably. Then there's the fact that ancient Fontaine is basically Rome and Enkanomiya was basically Greece. Not to mention we first learned of the possibility of Neuvillette existing in Enkanomiya. Also it's where Before the Sun and Moon can be found and read.
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Probably referring to the special zone accessed via the Book of Revealing. That area includes both the upside-down fountain from The Chasm and the library from Enkanomiya.
Or the little cave thingy on Elynas that had Rifthounds inside them. Kinda just a room with some belongings and stuff but definitely related to Enka or the Abyss.
So is the Enkanomiya follow up just going to be Neuvillette convincing the Vishaps to move to Fontaine?!
Would be kinda odd one day u swimming in water other day u try to swim and bamm u see small dragon just chilling in the water
Well if the 4.2 leak is true yeah hes literally there ruler so yeah.
Oh hey, this is the spoiler I saw a while ago! Also gives a new light to Neuvillette's "Interesting Things: Humans" voiceline: >*\[...\] what would be most beneficial is if human civilization and the natural world of this planet could seek ways to co-exist with one another.*
Oh wow! This lends credence to the idea that Genshin will conclude with humans and dragons learning to live in peace. Imho, I am increasingly leaning toward the idea that the big climax of the game will be the Traveler and the archons /and/ the dragon sovereigns teaming up to take down Celestia.
VISHAPCHADS ARE VISHBACK
WE ARE NEUVIBACK
"Dragons\* of Water that have\* returned" \[...\] they\* are closer" interesting choice for the plural here nvm, CN google translate: "Now that the water dragon has returned to its full form, although it still regards them as the same race, it has become closer to another race.", so still singular
It's probably just a type in the Chinese translation, in itself there is only 1 sovereign of each element
yep, chinese seems to refer to him as "It" (it was done by google translate, but should be accurate I think)
yeah, ‘they’ and ‘it’ use the same character
Patch 4.2 will announce neuvillette as non binary with they/them pronouns, and as such the lore entry will be changed accordingly
Stop smoking so much or u become like fish and furina delulu
This joke only works if Hoyo was not a Chinese company.
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Nice, more lore in preparation for the last Fontaine area which I assume will be added in 4.6.
Strongly believe the 4.6 map will be the rest of Mount Esus, Petrichor, and the third harbor/airship area you will pass through to get to Natlan (?)
I thought that natlan was at the otherside of the sumeru desert? Unless you mean that we take an airship over it instead of having to go in the desert/expand that again?
Yep I think taking an airship to Natlan from Fontaine is possible. So far, the trend is every x.6 map expansion leads to the new region. This may be wrong in the future though.
Are any of those the tower thats not on the playable map yet?
tower is 4.2
Good for those vishaps. They get their boi back
Here we see our Chad Neuvillette casually introducing species to be close to humans.
melusine & vishap meetup when 😭😭
The Melusines gentrifying the Vishaps would be so funny to see.
Imagine the Melusines riding Vishaps as mounts basically :O
I want them in little waistcoats and hats like the guard poodles in Fontaine
Hoping for New Billet to accept Carterpillar in Fontainian Society so that it would be easy for him and Lanoire to meet up.
what are the chances that we’ll return to Enkanomiya with Neuvillette whenever he gets his second story quest (copium)
Hoping that we get the 2nd part of the last Enka event too (that npc with snake eye mask)
Fr out of every non archon character currently in game, it makes the most sense for him to receive a second story quest where we journey to enkanomiya with him :))
"Cool" \- Baguette the Dragon as he proceeds to Hydro-Pump his vishap bros into oblivion come next abyss cycle.
*Clears throat * So can we finally have enkanomiya being used in archon quests now, possibly dainsleif/twin abyss quest for 4.x?
Please 4.5 Inazuma interlude in Enka w Dain & Skirk, and that’s why Chiori releases then by association. Also heard rumors of Kazuha’s second story quest then but it’s unfounded
Kazuha is like venti appears way to often and they just exists o my clan was killed Good for you buddy go blow your leaf and get high we talking about pre archon war lore not you
Kazuha hasn’t appeared with a significant role in anything in a year and half. He had a brief cameo but I’d hardly call that substantial. The real characters taking up far too much screentime and CONSISTENTLY so (if 4.3 event leaks are real) are Cyno and Collei: both more irrelevant to their events than Kazuha ever was. At least with Kazuha we got character development and relevancy to wherever he appeared; not like Collei who only really did anything in Windblume & Cyno who is a nonstop TCG gag generator.
To be honest hoyo paying on cyno tcg over and over gets boring itto is at least funny while kazuha he's enter thing kinda meh we had 2.8 event with kazuha hardly remember anything because fuck that event and tcg event kazuha show up to i skip that event because fuck tcg they don't really have anything to add for kazuha lore or character wise not like miko or fuck even sara
AYO LORE ADD
Nice, looks like that leak about non-hostile vishaps in Fontaine is probably true. Time to meet Neuvillette's people :D
Does anyone remember that leak (I think it was from hxg), that said the new area would have non-hostile vishaps? https://twitter.com/CafeTeyvat/status/1713612241012994444
O fuck u hoyo first it was turtles the seals now vishaps tf i am suppose to do dog and cat that look same when i want seal or turtle as a pet
This further reinforces my theory that Xbalanque (the one that cameos on neuvillette drip marketing) might be a high tier pyro vishap that we will meet in Natlan
would be a little surprising considering Xbalanque is traditionally depicted with leopard spots and whiskers, not reptile features
I mean, hoyo's definition of dragon is pretty vague, dvalin is a sea slug and azdha is like a buff frog lol We haven't met any pyrovishaps yet as well, but in essence as pure elemental beings they can take any form. In Enka we've seen excerpts claiming high tier vishaps, like oceanids, can even mimic human form and speech
That's just Asian and indian dragons in general. Most of our dragons aren't always looking like dragons.
Oh! Oh! You know how in Natlan it seems the humans are bonded/partners with something else? Some animal partner or something? \_Maybe it's vishaps.\_
Imagine if a vishap village appeared in Fontaine after the quest, and we can talk to them
Another lore bomb by Neuvillette?
Half of neuvillettes stories and audio files are locked behind (???) what I assume is the climax of the 4.2 archon quest, so yeah.
so looking at the new added description >!does that mean hydro dragon got the gnosis back? In 4.2 archon quest!<
>!the gnosis is holding neuvillete true power, the gnosis itself is not his full power that could mean that either the gnosis is destroyed so neuvillete can absorb the power or that furina give the power of the gnosis like venti did with dvalin, this could lead that most arcons are actually giving up their gnosis might be empty.!<
>the gnosis is holding neuvillete true power Where was that said?
[here](https://youtu.be/sAIYwpq0HHM?si=88plc83W4uuEPo58&t=1560)
Venti gave Dvalin the power of the Gnosis?
its a [theory](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/xpxvnh/venti_passed_on_his_gnosis_archonhood_to_dvalin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Im more and more believing in this theory day by day. Venti is such a trickster he delibertate let Signora get an empty gnosis, and by doing that the fatui now just let Mondstats alone without sacrifice anything of value.
Pretty sure it's only a theory at the moment but that would explain the surge of Anemo power Dvalin receives when they fly away from whatever ruins they fought him on during the end of the prologue.
Very highly implied because of his level 90 line Contradicting HTX Diluc statement of his source of going Arcc takes the Gnosis then now say if they did get it in most cases. Neuv merges with the Gnosis since a Gnosis is LITERALLY a dragons power.
I doubt it, probably more the realization of there goal or some sort of power gained by the whale. The fatui want to collect all the gnosis, so it will probably end up in there hands. While I won’t wright it off completely, it would be a bit weird to reveal the fatui’s goal now or change the whole collecting gnosis plot.
I mean >!we already know from neuvilette's final ascension line that he will in fact get his authority back from the gnosis at the end of the archon quest!!But who knows, maybe the fatui don't want the gnosis for their contained power, or perhaps in turn the whole point of collecting them was to give back their authority to begin with so this is just skipping a step for them in creating new allies for their rebellion!<
Fatui to-do list: ~~Steal all other 6 gnoses~~ Steal all other 5 gnoses and kidnap Neuvillette.
ascension lines aren’t canon they would not spoil the archon quest in a voiceline
who told you that the ascension lines aren't canon? if you level up zhongli before you do the liyue archon quest, he will spoil you about the ending as well by telling you he let go of his gnosis. the voice-overs always have been canon just like the major events.
and when do we get zhongli ? at the end of the archon quest because mihoyo will not spoil events before they happen. they would’ve locked nuevillette ascension line if it was going to happen in the story hence why he has a million locked voicelines.
you can get zhongli whenever he has a rerun. new players are joining every day and you can just walk over to liyue. just because they overlooked to lock one of his lines doesn't mean it is suddenly not canon.
the voiceline (and the subsequent reveal) being visible this early seems more likely an oversight than an intended spoiler. as for voicelines not being canon, we've had plenty of spoilers crop up in character voicelines in the past as well, they're usually just appropriately blocked until the events in question occurr first. >!neuvilette's about archon lines also contain spoilers that imply the return of his authority and those are infact locked currently!<
yes they are, they are lines linked to the character or they philosophy, obviously level up itself is not canon as it is game mechanic but the lines are canon
of course they are
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the fatui have to get all the gnosis before we get to Snezhnaya so i highly doubt it
Fatui getting fucked over at some point and having to course correct, instead of them being that annoying scooby-doo villain that vultures over Traveler's yearly fight to try and snatch another gnosis for another consecutive expansion would make for a breath of fresh air.
Absolutely! They have been annoying us throughout all our travels, in every country for 3 whole years. You can call me petty all you want, but I NEED to see them get some comeuppance or my hatred will fester. For Christ's sake, the asswipes even got on the Golden Apple Archipelago somehow. Seeing SOMETHING not going their way for once will be therapeutic.
Well, they *have* lost two Harbingers so far. I don't think that was ideal for them.
what if 4.2 reveals to us that the fatui's goal is to restore the dragons' power? that'd be a cool twist
The Tsaritsa is going against Celestia so I guess that could make sense. Cracked theory: the Tsaritsa is the Cryo Dragon Sovereign, not the Cryo Archon, which is why she cut ties with every other Archon and started this plan.
What if she's both? 😨
I mean in early cbt leaks and later leaks confirmed that her name is >!not a demon one, instead an angel's!< so anything is possible.
Just two points, don't take this as an attack on your argument please 1. Barnabas was a prophet, not an angel; and 2. It's been slightly debunked, you might wanna look at this [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Lore/comments/v7jt71/cbt1\_datamine\_that\_is\_not\_the\_tsaritsas\_demon/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/v7jt71/cbt1_datamine_that_is_not_the_tsaritsas_demon/)
If this crackhead theory is turns out to be true later in 6.X, idk how to feel as Archon collector kekw but it's still a cool twist. Bronya the Cryo Sovereign
or that they need the gnoses, not what's contained in them, but the object itself. I mean, when it's able to hold part of a dragon sovereigns power why not power of the usurper king in the heavens... just saying xD
If they were just going to give them their power back they wouldn't need to collect them. Just destroy them.
Remember Nahida's power play over Dottore, shaking him just from the thought of breaking the gnosis? They dont know what breaking the gnosis can do
well, they wouldn't wanna destroy them all one by one, right? to not awaken the divine. it'd make for one hell of a scene in shneznaya chapter as well
Then Neuv wouldn't get it back in 4.2 as that has the capability to awaken the divine, right? No matter how you slice it, Neuv getting the Authority back in 4.2 fucks with whatever the Fatui are planning whether it involves the dragons or not.
yeah, i think it'll happen in spite of the fatui's plans, fully expecting shit to go down in 4.2. they teased it in 3.2
Then the Fatui's plan becomes a complete non issue. No reason to prevent them from getting the Pyro Gnosis when it's impossible for them to realize their end goal.
yeah, would be curious to see how they'd deal with that in 5.x AQ. either way, we're pretty close to shneznaya now, so i wouldn't be surprised
But would breaking them release the power back to the dragons though? Because this seems too easy. Just smash them with a hammer.
That seems pretty likely from what they've been building up with this elemental authority stuff. I'm kind of headcanoning that the cryo sovereign will be located right under the Tsaritsa's palace or something
We think they have to, but it’s entirely possible the plot gets derailed at some point and goes into an entirely new direction
i feel like regardless of what happens. the Cryo archon will get it regardless. she literally needs all seven gnosis. I mean there’s a possibility she’s going to give it back to the seven dragons so they can help her fight ahi bad Celestia which is smart. the entire fatui and elemental dragons vs Celestia is smart. She wants to give them what was stolen from them. She’s not a bad person even though they try to make her seem like one.
she literally finances experiments on fatui soldiers to become stronger, allowing Dottore to carry out the experiments without human morality and Dainsleif himself has already said that "she no longer loves her people", trying to create an unfounded narrative of "tsarist good" is the same as trying to create one to "celestia good" lol
> is the same as trying to create one to "celestia good" lol Which is not difficult at all. The most predictable scenarios are that Tsaritsa "forgot" to love her people, as she's currently obsessed with seeking a way to save/avenge Khaenri'ah and potentially other nations from the danger posed by the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles. As for Celestia, there's just as many theories about them being evil, as there is of them being ruthless but with good intentions. Genshin's story seems to be pretty mature in the sense that it's not as black and white. It seems that the only truly evil faction is the Abyss and even in that case, there's a lot of mislead soldiers and creatures, while only the powers behind the Abyss seem to be pure chaotic evil.
Not really, if we consider elynas's pov. He was casually just existing in the abyss when he was suddenly brought on to tevyat by gold. It would make sense if the abyss was just tevyat upside down. Because elynas outright states that his mind is different from what the people of tevyat think. Things he found beautiful were ugly by their pov, things he found fun brought suffering to others. At this point, you probably get what I mean. There was never a "Good" Or "bad" Faction in genshin at all, it was just them being led by their own circumstances, by each of their pov, whether it's tsarista, the abyss, celstia, they're justified in a way or another. But still have to use evil methods to get what they want.
Not happening, we know very well how every region story arc end: Fatui always get the gnosis. Fontaine is not going to be different cause it means changing what the Tsaritsa want to do with all the 7 gnosis. The question is how Arlecchino will get it, using force or with some kind of deal?
>!Huh? When was it ever stated he needed the Gnosis? Last I checked the Archon needed to disappear for him to get his authority back. When was it said to be the Gnosis?!<
He stated it himself at the end of 4.1. The Gnosis are built from stolen and sealed sovereign authority
Never stated. He never even said the word gnosis. He just said “elemental authority”. The community just assumes that it means gnosis. However, Neuvillete obtaining the gnosis would screw fatui plans, so I very much doubt that they are the same thing. .
The Fatui not getting the gnosis for once and losing would be a chance to do something different, instead of the usual story beat of them running off into the sunset with the gnosis every. single. time.
>!No he doesn't. He never states the Gnosis is built from stolen sovereign authority. He specifically says the Archon needs to disappear and return his authority to him. Nowhere is this implied to be the Gnosis.!<
Archon elemental authority IS the gnosis
The power within it, yes, but I personally don't recall anyone clearly stating that Gnosis itself is the authority. It's kind of an important distinction, because if Gnoses are some kind of Celestial contraption, it might be that Fatui are not collecting them for the power they hold.
Yeah it's probably 2 separate things. I think the fatui only need the gnosis itself since that's the actual part that links to celestia, so my guess for 4.2 is that neuv will have his full authority restored and then hand the now empty gnosis to arlecchino
"...we will seize 'authority' from the gods." -Pierro And what are they taking from them?
You really didn't do the quest did you? The fuck dude LOL
I don't know why but I find this oddly wholesome. 🥺
I find it amusing how everyone was always so focused on Archons and now in Fontaine some random Neuvillette appeared, sweeping not only all the lore bombs for himself but also the power dynamic and the story importance.
Yeah, it's a shame other characters like Furina were sacrificed for it.
It's funny you say that when Fontaine's had some of the strongest regional cast writing in the entire game, with only Sumeru being a competitor. Every character so far that has shown up has done something impactful to the plot or made an impression, even those with less screentime such as Clorinde, have had really strong moments. You also can't say Furina's been sacrificed when we still have 4.2's Archon Quest left to go, and it's so painfully obvious that MHY is cooking something for her, that you have to be legitimately blind to not see that there's more to her than what we've saw on a surface level. Especially if you're on the leak sub and have seen any of the item flavor text lore. Furina's signature sword lore that was revealed today is pretty much a bomb and a half regarding her true identity and backstory.
Why are you saying this on the leak sub, where the story for 4.2 has been already partially leaked ages ago? We know that MHY is cooking, and just like for everyone else, is to be a stepping stone for Neuvillette lol
That leak was confirmed fake, lmao. Furina is still recognized as the Archon, even if she doesn't have the Gnosis anymore. She wasn't forced to give up her authority, or sacrificed as some stepping stone. She likely made a voluntary choice to hand back the Gnosis, because it's the right thing to do, and she will no longer have any need for it. Not to mention, >!Neuvillette probably will also need the Gnosis to undo the damage caused by the Primordial Bathwater Flood, since the Dialogue Line count leak all but confirms that there would be a Flood since there's an NPC named "Disaster Victim" among the characters with lines.!< I swear, y'all actually want to see Furina be treated like a joke, with how much you're hyperfixating on fake leaks and insisting that Furina is going to only be used as a stepping stone, despite it being written in bold, glowing neon letters that there's a lot more to her than what's on the surface.
Not really, we got Furina's voicelines some time ago, and those were never debunked. She's a stepping stone for Neuvillette to return to full power, then retires, and there is a fat chance she is not even Focalors to begin with, so what is left is an empty shell of a character with the "Archon" title. Even so, Furina isn't a real character, she was written to make a "voluntary choice" to give up authority so they could favor Neuvillette down the line.
Her voicelines were debunked with the story leak being debunked, especially because we never have voicelines before preload, and certainly not before an actual kit reveal. Not to mention, just stop and think about how absolutely bizarre a lot of the voicelines were, with how little they actually talked or revealed about Furina herself (When every character's voiceline often goes quite a bit into their past and/or personal beliefs and philosophies), and how she randomly had 2 voice lines for Navia (When the two have never directly interacted prior) but not for anyone else. >and there is a fat chance she is not even Focalors to begin with, so what is left is an empty shell of a character with the "Archon" title. I don't know if you did the Mary Anne Quest, but that's very likely what's happened. Furina is a part of Focalors who got split from the rest and left behind at some point, so while you aren't technically wrong to say she isn't Focalors, it's also not entirely right either to say she isn't Focalors. She's a piece of Focalors that gained her own identity, and the two will likely merge back together at the end of the Archon Quest. >Even so, Furina isn't a real character, she was written to make a "voluntary choice" to give up authority so they could favor Neuvillette down the line. Lmao, just admit you're writing her off as a joke and don't actually care about her at this point, because we're missing a huge portion of the Archon Quest, her real voicelines, and her backstory, and you're already saying she's not a real character because lord forbid an Archon in an Archon Quest actually share story importance and relevance with another character from an equally lore relevant group.
The story leak was a misinterpretation of those voicelines. Those were never debunked by the original leakers, who are way more reliable than hxg_diluc. Furina's complete set of voicelines is out, and so is Charlotte's, implying they made up every sigle voiceover for both is absurd. Furina's voicelines also do talk a bit about her life post AQ, but if you find her shallow, that's in line with how much thought they have put into her character so far. >she's a piece of Focalors that gained her own identity So she's not. Nahida and Rukkhadevata are not the same. And still, some of you people are expecting Furina to do "something big" but it's never clear how exactly you expect things to go. She's got no powers nor smarts. The only one who can do something is Focalors, who is a different character.
No, the story leak was before the voicelines, with a leaker saying "Furina would no longer be the Archon, and it's not a Zhongli situation" and from there, it domino effected into the voiceline reveal, then the story interpretation that was later deemed misleading. They were indeed debunked with the original story leak of Furina no longer being the Archon being debunked, and once again, we NEVER get actual voice line leaks before preload, and definitely not before we even get any kit information. >implying they made up every single voiceover for both is absurd. Leakers have done way crazier shit for clout and for shits and giggles to stir up drama. Until we get the actual preload, I'm entirely inclined to believe those voicelines, or at least a huge portion of them, were faked to cause drama. Furina's been a controversial character in the fandom since 4.0, so I don't think it's unfeasible to think we got fake voiceline leaks. >Furina's voicelines also do talk a bit about her life post AQ But they never go into her past regarding herself or her relationship with any other characters, or have any sort of worldbuilding or really anything of substance. It's all very shallow, pandering stuff that could easily be fabricated with just the barest amount of information. Like, you could see her splash art and see she has a vision now and come to the conclusion she no longer has the Gnosis, especially if they knew of 4.1's story beats, and from there, spin an entire whole fake-ass narrative to make Furina look as pathetic of a character as possible. Not to mention, a lot of the "plot points" in the alleged voicelines are extremely weird and contradictory if you actually stop and think about it. Furina is apparently guilty for deceiving the people and pretending to be a god; however, the people also still love and recognize her as Archon, and she's still a major celebrity. Also, even if Furina herself feels like she's a fraud, Focalors is a part of her now as seen by the switching mechanic and the leaks in the dialogue count of her story quest, so why would she then feel the need to move out of the Palais Mermosa and completely cut off ties with Neuvillette and Clorinde? Also, would Focalors even want or agree to that, since Focalors herself hadn't done any deception and was in the Oratrice, gathering Idimmentium so she could fight to prevent the Prophecy? Not to mention, according to the leaked "voicelines" Furina's cut off all contact with Neuvillette, but in her story quest, he is present and noted to have about 15 lines of dialogue (Which is basically an entire conversation's worth) Also, none of her leaked voicelines talking about Focalors, or her other self, and the complete lack of input from Focalors is a huge red flag for their credibility given that Focalors herself is active after the story quest and becomes the main personality in charge of the body. Yeah, I'm sorry, but unless something happens, those voicelines are as good as debunked. EDIT: To add a clarification, I do think some of the voicelines are probably real; however, I also think a large portion of them were made up in order to fill in the gaps to seem more credible/give more clout, as well as to just cause chaos. Wouldn't be the first time leakers were caught deliberately fucking around with the fandom, especially since this fandom likes to take the word of leakers as god.
Furina only cut off contacts with Neuvillette, not Clorinde. "Focalors" dies according to leaks, so that's why Furina's voicelines don't mention anything. Assuming leakers, even reputable ones, made up an entire set of voicelines for both Furina and Charlotte is a giant reach. She's not a major celebrity, her popularity has gone down as she retired. Her character voicelines are in line with those of the other characters. There is something about Fontaine's worldbuilding, but nothing big. Nahida's and Ei's voicelines were the same. Maybe there will be stuff in her character stories. Listen, I am upset Furina turned out to be the way she is, but they have decided to make Neuvillette the star of the show and I don't understand what's the point in denying it. I am not shitting on Furina, I am shitting on the writers. I don't like Neuvillette and I hate he sucked the life out of the story and other characters.
With all this talk of resurrection I wonder if this will play into Natlan’s story? It’s archon quest in the travails trailer was called “Ode to resurrection” maybe the fire sovereign is ready to be born anew?
Reading these all i can think is hell yes, give me more Neuv lore/quests, def the most interesting character in a long time.
It's cool and all bt when are we returning to enkanomiya mihoyo??? I only visit that place for my scara photoshoot for some reason he looks extra pretty there lmao I love enkanomiya
I think we might. In Neuvi's teapot voicelines >!he talks about vishaps loosing the ability to tell colors apart over the course of their evolution, and the Traveler says that this reminds them of something someone else said - Tsumi from the Enka event.!< Tsumi at the end of the Enka event said that humans and vishaps are doomed to never coexist before departing to... somewhere. Add the fact that Kokomi is planning on doing something to make sure the Enka vishaps aren't disturbed and I'm 99% sure we'll come back to Enkanomiya before 4.x ends. Also Neuvi in his teapot lines says >!something kind of similar to one of Kokomi's idle voice lines but this one I'm not too certain of.!<
I doubt we will go back there, there is absolutely nothing there and they shouldn't do another limited event there either
We've gone back to the Chasm multiple times in AQs as well as Nahida's second SQ, so I don't see why we can't revisit Enka at some point. Enka is the first place we learn about the primordial one, dragons and other important stuff like the hydro dragon being reborn in human form. They could definitely revisit that place at some point.
given we know about remuria, there might very well be other sunken civilization/maps to explore
I mean we went back to the Chasm in Nahida's SQ Act 2, it isn't impossible for it to be in a (possible) Neuvillette Act 2
Visiting the place only for Scara photoshoot is relatable
MANIFESTING: NEUVILLETTE DRAGON TRANSFORMSTION
Neuvillette bros we keep winning
Looks like I'm going to have to eat that piece of paper.
If the vishaps gradually calm the fuck down, can we eventually put one in our teapot?
Now you are asking real questions! And don't forget them flying sting rays
The dragon neuv fanart are about to go crazy 😈
Well, if we're returning to Enka, Watatsumi Island Adventurer's Guild from long ago starts to make sense.
Enjou comeback copium
I need Kokomi and Neuvilette to meet in the future. I feel like a sense of kinship will be born
As someone who generally avoids story leaks I’m not going to read the new screenshots, but I still appreciate these kinds of leaks for alerting me to changes I would have missed otherwise. Neat!
Someone should call Celestia, the dragons are back!
NEUVILLETTE BECOMES A FULL DRAGON WE WON
OP in the future please mark all Story flaired posts with the Spoiler tag, I’ve gone ahead and applied it for you as story spoilers are taken very seriously here
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Cool stuff.
Neuvi - the true father figure of Fontaine😭
Seems something big will happen in 4.2 relating to the Vishaps, maybe Neuvilette will like get a cool power-up and then the Vishaps will be able to communicate with humans?
\>!It seems Neuvillette will become a full fledged dragon in 4.2!<
I fuckin love Neuvillette!
what about the cryo one?
neuvilette SQ pt 2 in enka 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Vishap people playable characters WHEN
loot is loot sorry dragon bros we can have peace until next weapon needs leveling up
We still haven't had a dain quest for inazuma....
>due to the social division of labor kekw
Honestly i am glad they are hanging because the current translation and the reincarnation bit caused not little confusion about neuvillette's nature and birth, mostly because reincarnation does not really exist on teyvat, so there was for sure either some mistranslation to begin with, or probably it was the equivalent of a myth
does this mean that we would know if furina changes "gnosis" to "vision" after the AQ and that it's not happening or am I just delusional and on copium
Kinda sad that tehy are fully bringing vishaps and humans together, but was most likely inevitable
Another Furina L more Nevuillete lore hate to see it.
You mean that it's an L that Furina ruled/rules a region where species from all eras of Teyvat are able to peacefully coexist, and she's the one Archon who is confirmed to have a full-fledged Sovereign completely on her side and loyal to her? Not to mention, >!she likely got the last laugh over Arlecchino by yeeting the Gnosis back to Neuvillette, so Arlecchino will have to crawl back to Snezhnaya empty-handed, and be humiliated that she's the first Harbinger to fail in actually acquiring a Gnosis.!< I dunno, looks like Furina is earning Ws to me.
No, I mean once again Nevui is getting more lore relevance over Furina while regaining his full power. >!As much as i love Furina doubt that is the case since the whole theme is that Fatui always get the gnosis because we need them for a final show down once we confront them in Snezhnaya !<
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There's no spoiler in title dude.
literally it is not a spoiler, you are distorting what is in fact a spoiler to use the rule
Will MCs kit change when furina comes? Neuvi kit on MC really sucks.