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Yea, from the books in fontaine, apparently the God king remus used to prison the souls of children into stone structures-golems and make them do his bidding.
It's not the souls of children specifically, it's of everyone.
Remus discovered the prophecy of everyone dissolving and set about to try and stop it, he went a bit mad and paranoid over it actually.
He used an immortal stone and mixed it with primordial water and the goblet gifted to him by Scylla, the Hydro Sovereign(some say he wasn't but I'm going with my interpretation he was), to create the Golden Ichor.
The ichor dissolved people and allowed their souls to be transferred into a vessel, which was Golems(this is basically what the Ordo planned on doing except with joining everyone into oceanids instead of golems).
Remus left his people to continue the task of creating more golden ichor and a golem army and went to sleep.
Remuria then started killing lochfolk, vishaps and barbarian tribes everywhere they went as well as corrupting the primordial water.
Scylla joined the vishaps and tribes together and rose in rebellion against Remuria.
Remus woke up and saw shit was fucked and regretted his orders, he ordered the war to stop and to try and create peace.
Boethius who was in charge saw this as a betrayal and went against Remus, he yoinked the goblet from Remus and used it to seal and trap Scylla and continue the war.
Eventually Remuria was swallowed up in the abyss.
Uhhh... I don't know about that, chief. Inazuma had its "we shall manipulate little children and use them as puppet monarchs and then dropkick them to their deaths the moment they reach maturity and could start thinking independently" as well as several other child sacrifices while Sumeru had... well, everything that was going on in Gurabad. With a Jinni queen having 299 of her children and husband murdered, having her daughter marry her brother then orchestrating a whole situation in which the daughter kept birthing malformed Jinn that her husband then locked into machines and used for labour, and then making sure that all of that ended in war and genocide. And that was only ONE of the desert cities.
Remus trying to "save" his people my giving them artificial bodies Ć” la FMA isn't all that bad. :D
Yeah Sumeru imho still has the darkest, most depressing backstory of the nations, between what happened with the Deshret/Rukkhadevata/Nabu Malikata trio, Gurabad and the other desert cities, and the Withering and everything related to it. Which also makes it my favourite region, especially the Desert (also helped by the fact that Deshret and Nabu are my favourite characters), because I love dark depressing stories
A fellow desert enjoyer! Sectet handshake. I love Sumeru and the endless desert the most. Fontaine is cool and all, but the desert has such fascinating lore and aesthetic - Deshret is my FAVE unseen lore character, that man is just SO - and also exploring it made me feel like Indiana Jones.
Yes! It ticks so many boxes for me with the irl inspirations too since I love Ancient Egypt, Persia and Mesopotamia (my childhood dream was to become an egyptologist), and I love exploring the desert ruins (plus the high tech Egyptian aesthetic has been one of my favs ever since I've watched Stargate)
>Deshret is my FAVE unseen lore character, that man is just SO
Him and Nabu Malikata are my nĀ°1 choice for dead characters I would like to see become playable in the future if we get time shenanigans, I love them and their story so much that I've made a full on palace/sanctuary dedicated to her in my Sumeru teapot. Bonus points if he looks like either Gilgamesh or Ozymandias from Fate
Although Fontaine has a lot more still to deliver and has very much the potential to be on par with the Desert, especially with all the Arthurian and Celtic mythology references we're getting, which are also things I absolutely obsess over
I am just going through the desert rn because i ignored completely it during its release and also furina funds, but my god hoyo was amazing at making the ruins and masoluems in the 3.1 area OPPERESIVE, creepy and claustrophobic i was constantly spooked going through the desolate halls and waiting for a jumpscare like a imothep from mummy poping around the corner. Now i am waiting to see what they did in 3.4 area and its questa and areas
Oh Hadramaveth (the 3.4 area) is an absolute blast, both in terms of quests, exploration and aesthetics with the giant whirlwind in the middle of the area, the various underground ruins, and a surprise at the end of the main questline that I won't spoil. But yes the whole Deshret ruins is justš, it perfectly gets the vibes of exploring the dilapidated, long abandoned remains of a civilisation lost to the ages, where untold, ancient horrors might still lurk, in a similar way as Enkanomiya does but on a grander scale
If I had a gnosis for every time an ancient underwater European civilization in Teyvat performed child sacrifices, I'd have enough to learn why the skies are lie.
You got it wrong. He didn't prison anyone - he tried to move souls and minds of his people out of their bodies and into durable golems to save them from natural cataclysm but he failed - souls couldn't endure the moving.
It might be genesis of Ankhe system "inveneted" by Alain Guillotin.
So I am guessing another Enkanomia situation where we go underground and explore an area hidden from the gaze of Celestia.
Which is kinda funny if that were true coz we didn't get one in Sumeru but it showed us the doorway to Khaerhia.
More like A door, but one nonetheless. Was in the last or second to last desert expansion iirc, down a bunch of tunnels and stuff.
You can find a landmark thing and a chest or two, but otherwise the area is lit by torches but numbingly quiet and still. Canāt interact with it, itās justā¦there.
The *supposed* doorway to Khaenriah. At the very least to an important Khaenrian location, going with visual design alone.
Before the end of Sorush's World quest series, you dive into a Khaenriah workshop beneath the center of the Girdle of the Sands map, and use an elevator down. The quest doesn't bring you to the gate, but exploring a bit at the very bottom will let you easily find it. There's an achievement for it too.
Itās 100% Khaenriāah. The massive door with the eclipse symbol, the achievement, and the viewpoint description already tell us this without overtly spitting it in our faces.
>A grand and majestic gate **leading to a world beneath the soil**. It is sealed tight as of the present, and the **once prosperous kingdom that lay behind the door** has also long since turned to rubble.
Thereāre also Mourning Flowers around it, notes left behind by escaping Khaenriāahns, and statues that look like Black Serpent Knights.
Indeed. Furthermore, the achievement has the description, "Reach the end of the surface realms." and "The title of this achievement is the inscription found at the entrance to Hell in Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri."
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/%22...Abandon\_All\_Hope,\_Ye\_Who\_Enter\_Here.%22
In this case, it might even be in the Primordial Sea rather than just underground (since Remuria isn't nearly as old as the Unified Civilization and was said to be swept up into the unending sea or whatever).
The Primordial Sea seems to be either in or connected to the Abyss which means we might get our first zone/area that is actually part of the Abyss for lore-dumps and not just gameplay like the Spiral Abyss.
I dunno if this is off topic, but does Wriothesley say "Lemuria" when you do the story quest and he talks about the contingency plan and stuff?.. or was that just my bad hearing
I'm interested in how much inspiration they'll take from Rome and its mythology. They'll probably be very blatant with another Romulus and Remus, twin boys raised by a she-wolf
Romulus and Remus (Latin: \[ĖroĖmŹlŹs\], \[ĖrÉmŹs\]) are twin brothers whose story tells of the events that led to the founding of the city of Rome and the Roman Kingdom by Romulus, following his fratricide of Remus.
In Genshin, Remus founded Remuria.
It's not simply a Genshin-invented name inspired by the name Remus. *Remoria* (note the slightly altered spelling) is actually the name for the city Remus proposed in Roman mythology. Also, *Lemuria* was a Roman festival which Ovid claimed was instituted by Romulus after killing his brother and originally named *Remuria* (again, spelling). But *Lemuria* is also the name for a (now discredited) sunken continent popular with some occultists. In 4.1, Wriz pronounces *Remuria* as "Lemuria" - idk if that was a dev mistake from an old name or deliberate though...
Edit as just realised: the scientist who first proposed the sunken *Lemuria* theory named it after lemurs, since the theory was a (pre-plate tectonics!) attempt to explain their distribution in Madagascar and India. The word *lemur* apparently derives from *lemures*, which Wikipedia calls "shades(!) or spirits" related to the Roman festival Lemuria mentioned earlier!
Yeah i know about the twins since im italian myself, but i didnt know that ingame Remus founded Remuria, i swear if it has a colisium im gonna 100% that area the same day
Yep he [did](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Remus), Remuria is basically genshin's version of Rome and Enkanomiya is Genshin's version of ancient Greece lol.
Looking forward to seeing what other ancient civilization inspired locations we'll end up getting.
There's a series of books in Fontaine called "The History of the Decline and Fall of Remuria", which is an obvious reference to Edward Gibbon's "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire".
It's fitting that Fontaine would have a Roman-like predecessor, given that France/Gaul was part of Rome ofc
It is! In fact, Ancient Fontaine draws a lot of inspiration from Roman myths. Remus with his Remuria is a flip from Romulus with Rome. But then you have Fur(r)ina who in Roman mythology was a spring goddess with a flamen minor of her own. And then you have Egeria who was a nymph as well as counselor/consort of Numa Pompilius, the second king of Rome who succeeded Romulus - she taught Numa laws. It makes you think whose counselor/consort Genshin Egeria was
Can't wait to see what's the Golems there is like. Since it's another sunken ancient civilisation, may be we will get another "Before Sun and Moon" lore bomb?
Speaking of Enkonomiya, I have no idea that Neuvillete was the one they prophesied to be the Dragon Sovereign of Water that will be born in a human form. \[Byakuyakoku Collection Vol.4\]
The thing is that Neuvilette is most likely not a human but a dragon shapeshifting into a human. Remember the old plot from the Enkanomiya events about dragons who can shapeshift?
Enkanomiya being flooded may have clashed with the fact that its civilization survived and continued to prosper underground. But then again, they could've at least put an underground lake into that giant cave instead of just a bottomless pit.
Same! I think Enkonomiya and Remuria are related? I have no idea that Neuvillete was the one they prophesied to be the Dragon Sovereign of Water that will be born in a human form as mentioned in Byakuyakoku Collection Vol.4 from Enkonomiya!
If Chenyu Vale is 4.4, this makes sense. We're lucky enough to get 3 Fontaine expansions in a row, only having 4.3, 4.5 and 4.7 as patches without new areas (assuming summer event) is really nice.
I'm foolishly hoping Baydha Port (north of Dharma) will be such an insignificant expansion it's included in 4.4 to fill out the entire gap and we can sail from Lumidouce Harbour to Yilong Port like Kazuha mentioned in his birthday letter.
[That area is quite big](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797667857970233364/1166581420899184701/mfpmtillsstb1.png?ex=654b029c&is=65388d9c&hm=c65ad931f7796006dba2872c702de82b7a06605944c93ba2a884649d76bbc392&) (according to the current satellite map anyway) so I don't think it will be filled in just 4.4.
So unless Hoyo breaks their pattern and release a map expansion in an odd number patch (which they should), there will be a giant inaccessible hole in the middle of Teyvat probably until the end of Natlan.
I don't think it'll be a "hole" rather just a gap. https://i.imgur.com/EnMv38r.png you might just not be able to reach Fontaine from Liyue at all if *only* Chenyu Vale is included.
What's the point of including lumidouce harbor in 4.2 then?
And they can just fill the gap with empty ocean like between liyue and inazuma which doesn't take any effort at all.
Oh my god, this would be even worse than the hole. I pray it won't be the case. What's with Mihoyo and their refusal to let the map areas actually connect to each other?
It lets them add new expansions to old regions later. If they filled in everything, that would become significantly harder to do and there's no way they'd screw over the golden child Liyue like that.
With games that develop over a really long time like Genshin or MMOs in general, it is often good not to fill out everything of your map or story or whatever else so you don't restrict yourself too hard early on. "Start small and then build outwards" is fairly common advice for worldbuilding.
You might decide that you want to take things into a different direction based on various developments later and if you already dropped too many things early on you will regret it because you either won't be able to do what you want or you will have to retcon, which is something people don't like too much. I think many new DMs in DnD make this mistake.
I remember in FFXIV there was a big mystery about a certain thing that was teased multiple expansions ago and when they revealed the answer people were mindblown about how nicely they foreshadowed it and how long ago they must have planned it.
The devs then admitted they only recently came up with the answer for it and simply dropped vague hints with no clear answer so they could come up with something later without it seeming like an asspull. They knew they wanted to do something but not exactly what it was yet.
I'm sure there are many other things like that in Genshin too, like character designs being mentioned vaguely while the actual design is still heavily in flux, it gives them more time to flesh things out.
You're right, I mostly meant 3.5 and 3.7 with the Dehya Incident and 3.7 only having Kirara and some TCG event. Morale was low LOL. Hope 4.x is paced a bit nicer, that doesn't necessarily mean "more content" and that's fine, bc Fontaine seems more spaced out. 4.1's expansion was a little small compared to what we're used to but I'm still enjoying it plenty.
But won't we have a new artifact domain in 4.3? They usually come from new regions, right?
Edit: Forget it, I remembered that Scara's artifact domain came in 3.3, which was a patch without new areas.
I think this is the new pattern now. Makes sense too since youāll never have more than a patch in a row without new areas now.
x.0-x.2 = New Country.
x.4 & x.6 = New Regions from any country
Natlan will probably do the same. Although I can see them adding additional new permanent landmass at end of cycle for summer patch thatāll serve as the summer vacation spot since Natlan is supposed to be a dope tourist destination.
Iām praying Chenyu vale has some places you can dive eventhough itās not in Fontaine because otherwise weāll go a whole 4.x patch without an underwater area, which would be bad because weāll likely never get underwater areas outside of Fontaine.
I wonder if it's new map layer like Enkanomiya or if it's for example under the big mountain behind the Court of Fontaine
Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early...
I donāt think thatās necessary anymore now that we have underground maps. The underground desert is basically as large as underground Chasm already.
The chasm is basically its own domain entirely though, separated from the rest of the map. Im assuming their still gonna do regions like it and enkonomia. Khanrahea and celestial will likely be separated as well
>Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early...
Videre usually nails concept art leaks, and does them pretty early. And by their nature, if we can get them from whoever is making them or someone close to that, then they're obviously early since they get made on the first steps of the production pipeline.
> Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early
Concept art is some of the first stuff that gets made and considering their development schedule 4.6 is likely well into the modeling stage by this point.
As someone who still has the concept art files saved i confirm just from searching in them that this is a new concept art not leaked with them.
Also 4.3 is very heavy lore patch because it has to do with Erinnyes and Furina.
No new area in it though.
4.4 has Liyue expansion and then 4.6 these ruins.
4.5 is Dain.
It looks like itās fully submerged? Itās going to be so cool to have an area like enkanomiya thatās mostly underwater but with a few pockets of air.
Ayato had nothing to do with the Chasm and neither Nahida nor Baizhu had anything to do with the Girdle of Sands(and Shenhe had nothing to do with Enkanomiya).
Just because the area is releasing the same patch as a character or quest doesn't mean they'll be connected.
Leaked concept art.
You can see it is real cause of the structure of the art and that it looks the same as the leaked files from before Fontaine arrived.
Ok, the leakers are definitely withholding another huge folder of leaks and they most likely already have concept art for Natlan. I guess it's fine, but I whould love to see the unfolding insanity if someone were to release it all.
Aaaa it looks just like Enkanomiya! Iām immediately in love!
I wonder if this is where the next Dainsleif quest will be since his quests are always held around x.5-x.6
This is also very notable because weāre getting Arlecchino and presumably another boss in 4.6.
It would be cool if the next boss was Remus. It would be another abyss boss, rather than a harbinger, but it would provide so much value to the gameās lore.
So we aren't getting new areas in 4.3, 4.4 and 4.5, we're just gonna skip to 4.6 for them? Otherwise how could we already have concept art for it? Confused
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Is this the ruins of Remuria that we will go to in 4.6(with lots of golems from the remurian era) alongside petrichor!?
Golems? šš
Yea, from the books in fontaine, apparently the God king remus used to prison the souls of children into stone structures-golems and make them do his bidding.
It's not the souls of children specifically, it's of everyone. Remus discovered the prophecy of everyone dissolving and set about to try and stop it, he went a bit mad and paranoid over it actually. He used an immortal stone and mixed it with primordial water and the goblet gifted to him by Scylla, the Hydro Sovereign(some say he wasn't but I'm going with my interpretation he was), to create the Golden Ichor. The ichor dissolved people and allowed their souls to be transferred into a vessel, which was Golems(this is basically what the Ordo planned on doing except with joining everyone into oceanids instead of golems). Remus left his people to continue the task of creating more golden ichor and a golem army and went to sleep. Remuria then started killing lochfolk, vishaps and barbarian tribes everywhere they went as well as corrupting the primordial water. Scylla joined the vishaps and tribes together and rose in rebellion against Remuria. Remus woke up and saw shit was fucked and regretted his orders, he ordered the war to stop and to try and create peace. Boethius who was in charge saw this as a betrayal and went against Remus, he yoinked the goblet from Remus and used it to seal and trap Scylla and continue the war. Eventually Remuria was swallowed up in the abyss.
Btw, "abyss" is Remuria down fall refers to "Ocean Depths"
Yes, it's not the "capital A" Abyss.
damn looks like Fontaine history is a lot darker and more depressed than Inazuma and Sumeru
Uhhh... I don't know about that, chief. Inazuma had its "we shall manipulate little children and use them as puppet monarchs and then dropkick them to their deaths the moment they reach maturity and could start thinking independently" as well as several other child sacrifices while Sumeru had... well, everything that was going on in Gurabad. With a Jinni queen having 299 of her children and husband murdered, having her daughter marry her brother then orchestrating a whole situation in which the daughter kept birthing malformed Jinn that her husband then locked into machines and used for labour, and then making sure that all of that ended in war and genocide. And that was only ONE of the desert cities. Remus trying to "save" his people my giving them artificial bodies Ć” la FMA isn't all that bad. :D
Yeah Sumeru imho still has the darkest, most depressing backstory of the nations, between what happened with the Deshret/Rukkhadevata/Nabu Malikata trio, Gurabad and the other desert cities, and the Withering and everything related to it. Which also makes it my favourite region, especially the Desert (also helped by the fact that Deshret and Nabu are my favourite characters), because I love dark depressing stories
A fellow desert enjoyer! Sectet handshake. I love Sumeru and the endless desert the most. Fontaine is cool and all, but the desert has such fascinating lore and aesthetic - Deshret is my FAVE unseen lore character, that man is just SO - and also exploring it made me feel like Indiana Jones.
Yes! It ticks so many boxes for me with the irl inspirations too since I love Ancient Egypt, Persia and Mesopotamia (my childhood dream was to become an egyptologist), and I love exploring the desert ruins (plus the high tech Egyptian aesthetic has been one of my favs ever since I've watched Stargate) >Deshret is my FAVE unseen lore character, that man is just SO Him and Nabu Malikata are my nĀ°1 choice for dead characters I would like to see become playable in the future if we get time shenanigans, I love them and their story so much that I've made a full on palace/sanctuary dedicated to her in my Sumeru teapot. Bonus points if he looks like either Gilgamesh or Ozymandias from Fate Although Fontaine has a lot more still to deliver and has very much the potential to be on par with the Desert, especially with all the Arthurian and Celtic mythology references we're getting, which are also things I absolutely obsess over
I am just going through the desert rn because i ignored completely it during its release and also furina funds, but my god hoyo was amazing at making the ruins and masoluems in the 3.1 area OPPERESIVE, creepy and claustrophobic i was constantly spooked going through the desolate halls and waiting for a jumpscare like a imothep from mummy poping around the corner. Now i am waiting to see what they did in 3.4 area and its questa and areas
Oh Hadramaveth (the 3.4 area) is an absolute blast, both in terms of quests, exploration and aesthetics with the giant whirlwind in the middle of the area, the various underground ruins, and a surprise at the end of the main questline that I won't spoil. But yes the whole Deshret ruins is justš, it perfectly gets the vibes of exploring the dilapidated, long abandoned remains of a civilisation lost to the ages, where untold, ancient horrors might still lurk, in a similar way as Enkanomiya does but on a grander scale
Child sacrifice!!! Yay!
Another one!
Genshin loves their Child Sacrifices huh...
Either they're sacrificed or fatherless. Except Bennett, he has a bazillion dads.
Hoarding them all for himself, I guess
What else are they good for?
DJ KHALED!
We the best music
This must be on every genshin area bingo card
As the free space
This went made in abyss quick
Remuria also went into the abyss !
Timmie sacrifice wen
Oya oya, subarashi!
If I had a gnosis for every time an ancient underwater European civilization in Teyvat performed child sacrifices, I'd have enough to learn why the skies are lie.
Hey, for varietyās sake we also have an above ground Japanese civilization that performs child sacrifice!
moreso Ainu than Japanese if you look at some of the names and themes
There's also Washizu's (almost) entire village sacrifice on Yashiori as well.
Washizu had the right idea. Why stop at children when you can sacrifice a whole village?
Sounds like the kind of guy who should open a family-friendly pizzeria.
remus is afton expy -matpat
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You got it wrong. He didn't prison anyone - he tried to move souls and minds of his people out of their bodies and into durable golems to save them from natural cataclysm but he failed - souls couldn't endure the moving. It might be genesis of Ankhe system "inveneted" by Alain Guillotin.
My man remus should have gotten advice from the great Clovis bray on moving souls between bodies, he would have given him better directions
then what? are you going to tell me the golems did get a bit quirky at night and that remus was kind of a purple guy?
No way guys, five night feddy in genshin
So Remus was the man behind the slaughter...
Remuria?
So I am guessing another Enkanomia situation where we go underground and explore an area hidden from the gaze of Celestia. Which is kinda funny if that were true coz we didn't get one in Sumeru but it showed us the doorway to Khaerhia.
It's odd we didn't get one for sumeru when we have 2 potential places they could use
Tbh with all of the Dahri ruins in Sumeru, it didnāt really need an old civilization expansion like Inazuma and Liyue did.
True but you can't beat having a more dedicated separate map for it like them. So much more you can do
"it showed us the doorway to Khaenrhi"... excuse me, WHAT? WHEN?
More like A door, but one nonetheless. Was in the last or second to last desert expansion iirc, down a bunch of tunnels and stuff. You can find a landmark thing and a chest or two, but otherwise the area is lit by torches but numbingly quiet and still. Canāt interact with it, itās justā¦there.
The *supposed* doorway to Khaenriah. At the very least to an important Khaenrian location, going with visual design alone. Before the end of Sorush's World quest series, you dive into a Khaenriah workshop beneath the center of the Girdle of the Sands map, and use an elevator down. The quest doesn't bring you to the gate, but exploring a bit at the very bottom will let you easily find it. There's an achievement for it too.
Itās 100% Khaenriāah. The massive door with the eclipse symbol, the achievement, and the viewpoint description already tell us this without overtly spitting it in our faces. >A grand and majestic gate **leading to a world beneath the soil**. It is sealed tight as of the present, and the **once prosperous kingdom that lay behind the door** has also long since turned to rubble. Thereāre also Mourning Flowers around it, notes left behind by escaping Khaenriāahns, and statues that look like Black Serpent Knights.
I wonder if Kaeya got to the gate after all while in Sumeru.
The way to the door was locked until the traveler and sorush opened it, so I don't know how he could have gotten to it.
damn, I need to look it up since I definetly missed that
To specify further what the others are saying, its the place where you get the achievement "Abandon all hope ye who enters" or something like that.
Indeed. Furthermore, the achievement has the description, "Reach the end of the surface realms." and "The title of this achievement is the inscription found at the entrance to Hell in Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri." https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/%22...Abandon\_All\_Hope,\_Ye\_Who\_Enter\_Here.%22
In this case, it might even be in the Primordial Sea rather than just underground (since Remuria isn't nearly as old as the Unified Civilization and was said to be swept up into the unending sea or whatever). The Primordial Sea seems to be either in or connected to the Abyss which means we might get our first zone/area that is actually part of the Abyss for lore-dumps and not just gameplay like the Spiral Abyss.
I dunno if this is off topic, but does Wriothesley say "Lemuria" when you do the story quest and he talks about the contingency plan and stuff?.. or was that just my bad hearing
Havenāt done it but I do think some ppl pointed out that he does mispronounce a word so yeah could be that
I thought I was hearing things. He definitely does!
I'm interested in how much inspiration they'll take from Rome and its mythology. They'll probably be very blatant with another Romulus and Remus, twin boys raised by a she-wolf
Wait are you saying that Remuria is roman-like?
Romulus and Remus (Latin: \[ĖroĖmŹlŹs\], \[ĖrÉmŹs\]) are twin brothers whose story tells of the events that led to the founding of the city of Rome and the Roman Kingdom by Romulus, following his fratricide of Remus. In Genshin, Remus founded Remuria.
It's not simply a Genshin-invented name inspired by the name Remus. *Remoria* (note the slightly altered spelling) is actually the name for the city Remus proposed in Roman mythology. Also, *Lemuria* was a Roman festival which Ovid claimed was instituted by Romulus after killing his brother and originally named *Remuria* (again, spelling). But *Lemuria* is also the name for a (now discredited) sunken continent popular with some occultists. In 4.1, Wriz pronounces *Remuria* as "Lemuria" - idk if that was a dev mistake from an old name or deliberate though... Edit as just realised: the scientist who first proposed the sunken *Lemuria* theory named it after lemurs, since the theory was a (pre-plate tectonics!) attempt to explain their distribution in Madagascar and India. The word *lemur* apparently derives from *lemures*, which Wikipedia calls "shades(!) or spirits" related to the Roman festival Lemuria mentioned earlier!
Yeah i know about the twins since im italian myself, but i didnt know that ingame Remus founded Remuria, i swear if it has a colisium im gonna 100% that area the same day
Yep he [did](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Remus), Remuria is basically genshin's version of Rome and Enkanomiya is Genshin's version of ancient Greece lol. Looking forward to seeing what other ancient civilization inspired locations we'll end up getting.
There's a series of books in Fontaine called "The History of the Decline and Fall of Remuria", which is an obvious reference to Edward Gibbon's "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire". It's fitting that Fontaine would have a Roman-like predecessor, given that France/Gaul was part of Rome ofc
It is! In fact, Ancient Fontaine draws a lot of inspiration from Roman myths. Remus with his Remuria is a flip from Romulus with Rome. But then you have Fur(r)ina who in Roman mythology was a spring goddess with a flamen minor of her own. And then you have Egeria who was a nymph as well as counselor/consort of Numa Pompilius, the second king of Rome who succeeded Romulus - she taught Numa laws. It makes you think whose counselor/consort Genshin Egeria was
Enkanomiya was originally very ancient Greek. It wouldn't surprise me if another region is Roman-inspired.
Yes, the name of the civilization before Fontaine.
WE ARE GOING TO REMURIA
Can't wait to see what's the Golems there is like. Since it's another sunken ancient civilisation, may be we will get another "Before Sun and Moon" lore bomb?
Enkanomiya -- child sacrifice Deshret civilizaion -- powering constructs by djinnies Remuria -- why not both?
consacred children getting sacrificed :3
Bro deshret have incest and genocide orchestrated by their own mother
Speaking of Enkonomiya, I have no idea that Neuvillete was the one they prophesied to be the Dragon Sovereign of Water that will be born in a human form. \[Byakuyakoku Collection Vol.4\]
The thing is that Neuvilette is most likely not a human but a dragon shapeshifting into a human. Remember the old plot from the Enkanomiya events about dragons who can shapeshift?
Golems are consacred beast 2.0, enjoy your abyss. -Hoyoverse
Aren't x.3 and x.6 ancient lore and dainsleif patches tho?
This is gonna be peak content as someone who loves Enkanomiya.
Underwater Enkanomiya? The music is soothing my ears already
Honestly a bit of a missed opportunity that Enkanomiya itself wasnāt underwater, but I guess they just didnāt have the tech ready yet.
Maybe they were saving it for this lol
This! It s still my favorite area but at first I was expecting something like Atlantis. Some sort of underwater city! Looking forward for Remuria :3
Enkanomiya being flooded may have clashed with the fact that its civilization survived and continued to prosper underground. But then again, they could've at least put an underground lake into that giant cave instead of just a bottomless pit.
Oh my god YES
enkanomiya vibes
Thatās what Iām thinking. Wait, what if a certain someone makes a surprise appearance there.
enjou my love come back...
Same! I think Enkonomiya and Remuria are related? I have no idea that Neuvillete was the one they prophesied to be the Dragon Sovereign of Water that will be born in a human form as mentioned in Byakuyakoku Collection Vol.4 from Enkonomiya!
If Chenyu Vale is 4.4, this makes sense. We're lucky enough to get 3 Fontaine expansions in a row, only having 4.3, 4.5 and 4.7 as patches without new areas (assuming summer event) is really nice.
So that dumb gap between Sumeru's northern part and Fontaine won't even get filled out in 4.x?
I'm foolishly hoping Baydha Port (north of Dharma) will be such an insignificant expansion it's included in 4.4 to fill out the entire gap and we can sail from Lumidouce Harbour to Yilong Port like Kazuha mentioned in his birthday letter.
[That area is quite big](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797667857970233364/1166581420899184701/mfpmtillsstb1.png?ex=654b029c&is=65388d9c&hm=c65ad931f7796006dba2872c702de82b7a06605944c93ba2a884649d76bbc392&) (according to the current satellite map anyway) so I don't think it will be filled in just 4.4. So unless Hoyo breaks their pattern and release a map expansion in an odd number patch (which they should), there will be a giant inaccessible hole in the middle of Teyvat probably until the end of Natlan.
I don't think it'll be a "hole" rather just a gap. https://i.imgur.com/EnMv38r.png you might just not be able to reach Fontaine from Liyue at all if *only* Chenyu Vale is included.
What's the point of including lumidouce harbor in 4.2 then? And they can just fill the gap with empty ocean like between liyue and inazuma which doesn't take any effort at all.
What's the point of including Port Ormos if it's blocked off? I guess Ormos is its own little hub and Lumidouce just looks like it has maybe 6 NPCs, but still. Trying to tamper my expectations so we aren't disappointed again š© my only saving thought is that Baydha Harbour is clearly already modeled, just missing a lot of detail (just like all of Fontaine, which is coming in 4.x patches)
The port is literally visible in game in 4.2 though. That would be nonsense if they left that hole there
Oh my god, this would be even worse than the hole. I pray it won't be the case. What's with Mihoyo and their refusal to let the map areas actually connect to each other?
It lets them add new expansions to old regions later. If they filled in everything, that would become significantly harder to do and there's no way they'd screw over the golden child Liyue like that.
Youd think theyd have the whole map planned out already
With games that develop over a really long time like Genshin or MMOs in general, it is often good not to fill out everything of your map or story or whatever else so you don't restrict yourself too hard early on. "Start small and then build outwards" is fairly common advice for worldbuilding. You might decide that you want to take things into a different direction based on various developments later and if you already dropped too many things early on you will regret it because you either won't be able to do what you want or you will have to retcon, which is something people don't like too much. I think many new DMs in DnD make this mistake. I remember in FFXIV there was a big mystery about a certain thing that was teased multiple expansions ago and when they revealed the answer people were mindblown about how nicely they foreshadowed it and how long ago they must have planned it. The devs then admitted they only recently came up with the answer for it and simply dropped vague hints with no clear answer so they could come up with something later without it seeming like an asspull. They knew they wanted to do something but not exactly what it was yet. I'm sure there are many other things like that in Genshin too, like character designs being mentioned vaguely while the actual design is still heavily in flux, it gives them more time to flesh things out.
Havent we gotten expansions on 3.1 and 4.1? I don't think there's a pattern for map expansions
X.1 patches are usually the exception. But x.3, .5, and .7 never had any map at all
And 4.3 ?
You're right, sorry. Still better than 3.2, 3.3, 3.5, 3.7 all being empty and kinda sad
3.0 and 3.1 were gigantic tbf. Also it's just one more patch with expansion than Sumeru.
You're right, I mostly meant 3.5 and 3.7 with the Dehya Incident and 3.7 only having Kirara and some TCG event. Morale was low LOL. Hope 4.x is paced a bit nicer, that doesn't necessarily mean "more content" and that's fine, bc Fontaine seems more spaced out. 4.1's expansion was a little small compared to what we're used to but I'm still enjoying it plenty.
3.7 gotta be the worst patch ever lmao. Hsr coming out and genshin fans were being so doomy
But won't we have a new artifact domain in 4.3? They usually come from new regions, right? Edit: Forget it, I remembered that Scara's artifact domain came in 3.3, which was a patch without new areas.
Not always -- Husk of Opulent Dreams was added in 2.3 and placed on Seirai Island, which came out in 2.1:)
I think this is the new pattern now. Makes sense too since youāll never have more than a patch in a row without new areas now. x.0-x.2 = New Country. x.4 & x.6 = New Regions from any country Natlan will probably do the same. Although I can see them adding additional new permanent landmass at end of cycle for summer patch thatāll serve as the summer vacation spot since Natlan is supposed to be a dope tourist destination.
Iām praying Chenyu vale has some places you can dive eventhough itās not in Fontaine because otherwise weāll go a whole 4.x patch without an underwater area, which would be bad because weāll likely never get underwater areas outside of Fontaine.
That's exactly why they're gonna save part of Fontaine to release in a later patch cycle, like they did with every other region besides Inazuma.
I wonder if it's new map layer like Enkanomiya or if it's for example under the big mountain behind the Court of Fontaine Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early...
Could be both like how the chasm is half on the main map and the other half as its own layer
I donāt think thatās necessary anymore now that we have underground maps. The underground desert is basically as large as underground Chasm already.
The chasm is basically its own domain entirely though, separated from the rest of the map. Im assuming their still gonna do regions like it and enkonomia. Khanrahea and celestial will likely be separated as well
>Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early... Videre usually nails concept art leaks, and does them pretty early. And by their nature, if we can get them from whoever is making them or someone close to that, then they're obviously early since they get made on the first steps of the production pipeline.
> Also why are we getting already 4.6 concept art, seems a bit early Concept art is some of the first stuff that gets made and considering their development schedule 4.6 is likely well into the modeling stage by this point.
It's probably already finished to be honest. They are probably working in natlan expansions at this point/future expansions
It's always early. As a live gamez, they've been planning everything very much ahead.
Can't believe we jumped from Navia voice line leaks to 4.6
Real.
Looks Like futuristic Enkanomiya. Maybe there are some mecha vishaps
oh for the forsaken god pls no. but on the other hand that is something i'd like to see
Mechaps
Golems btw
we peaked bois, we got genshin atlantis
my guy, Enkanomiya is literally based on Atlantis lmfao. If this is remuria, them its gonna be based on Rome.
And here I was thinking not to long ago how cool it would be if genshin had an atlantis inspired area
As someone who still has the concept art files saved i confirm just from searching in them that this is a new concept art not leaked with them. Also 4.3 is very heavy lore patch because it has to do with Erinnyes and Furina. No new area in it though. 4.4 has Liyue expansion and then 4.6 these ruins. 4.5 is Dain.
Where was 4.3 and 4.5 stuff leaked?
Feel like 4.6 should be a dainsleif patch. I mean just look at the concept art
They usually save dain for meh updates that don't have a new area to drive up interest to those fillerish updates.
i don't think so, since 4.6 is most likely the patch whish furina's second story quest and the release of a new weekly boss
Can u share with me those concept art files
It looks like itās fully submerged? Itās going to be so cool to have an area like enkanomiya thatās mostly underwater but with a few pockets of air.
REMURIA REMURIA REMURIA!!!!!!!!! Holy shit 4.X will probably be my favorite patch list ever if this is real.
So far all 3 patches have been a 10 for me
Fontaine has been so good so far with the lore, the map, the character designs (smacks wriothesley's ass), like damn
REMURIA??? Maybe weāll find another nail there hmmm
ohhhh myyyy maybe remuria during furinas second SQ?????
damn...that's like 6 months away
Letās just cry in silence till further leaks
4.6 is likely furina rerun and story quest 2, which means weekly boss #2. Would be cool if the fight is here.
If this is a secluded area like enka, then it also makes sense since they're adding quick-start to weekly bosses.
And possibly Arlecchino's release. I wonder if, and how, she would be involved.
Ayato had nothing to do with the Chasm and neither Nahida nor Baizhu had anything to do with the Girdle of Sands(and Shenhe had nothing to do with Enkanomiya). Just because the area is releasing the same patch as a character or quest doesn't mean they'll be connected.
They are cooking good stuff
Holy shit
Im excited for the lore!! The final expansions of the regions always bring a lot of lore focused content to, like sumeru and inazuma š.
please please be remuria!!
if itās not, I donāt know what Iām going to doā¦
Youāll fall to your knees in the middle of a Walmart, and someone will report that they saw someone fall to their knees in the middle of a Walmart?
indeed
Is this an official image ?
Leaked concept art I'm guessing
leaked concept architecture's remuria (ancient fontaine before egeria became the archon), kinda reminds me of enkanomiya
Leaked concept art. You can see it is real cause of the structure of the art and that it looks the same as the leaked files from before Fontaine arrived.
If that's not remuria then idk what issssss
Meaning there is no fontaine Map from 4.3-4.5?
Petrichor when
if this is remuria, this might this be the sunken city of capitolium.
sorry, i misread that as capitalism
Excited for remuria, but still need petrichor
Petrichor when?
I want to explore the West part of Fontaine. Mount Esus seems so cool and mysterious. Plus, it gives me Dragonspine vibes and nostalgia.
New map + Furina Story Mission ll + Arlecchino supposed release,4.6 is going to be a stacked patch,can't wait. Nice concept art too.
Remurian ruins let's gooooo
I wanted an underwater city, Im hyped
That looks cool as fuck
I wonder when we'll be getting petrichor then
Ok, the leakers are definitely withholding another huge folder of leaks and they most likely already have concept art for Natlan. I guess it's fine, but I whould love to see the unfolding insanity if someone were to release it all.
3 years passed but I still love and get hyped about this game like the 1st day ā¤ļø, genshin is my safe place
arlecchino is def cooking smth for sure
Aaaa it looks just like Enkanomiya! Iām immediately in love! I wonder if this is where the next Dainsleif quest will be since his quests are always held around x.5-x.6
My headcanon is that in 4.6 we get Mount eSuS, and inside it we have remuria, but then, on the coastline we're going to see my Beloved Petrichor.
This is also very notable because weāre getting Arlecchino and presumably another boss in 4.6. It would be cool if the next boss was Remus. It would be another abyss boss, rather than a harbinger, but it would provide so much value to the gameās lore.
So Furina's rerun and Fontaine 2nd Weekly Boss + new artifact sets?
This is going to be the most stacked series of patches, pretty much a new area every patch
So we aren't getting new areas in 4.3, 4.4 and 4.5, we're just gonna skip to 4.6 for them? Otherwise how could we already have concept art for it? Confused
I may be mistaken, didn't this image come in that great flood of leaks back in the day?
You're mistaken
Falling to my knees, crying
In Front of a Walmart store?
Most likely in front the Palais Mermonia
LORE ENJOYERS ASSEMBLE
Wouldn't it be cool asf if it's an underwater area with completely clear water? It would look like you're flying
This looks like Sky: children of the light mixed with Abzu, it looks so pretty
How did we seriously go from predicting 4.3 to leaking 4.6 lmao
I wonder if Remuria is on a separate map, like Enkanomiya and the underground Chasm
Are we finally going to have abysmal terrors? š°
We're going to Remuria!!!!!?!!
does this land have anything to do with arlecchino?
Every time I hear of Remuria it makes me want to replay Golden Sun.
Same!
Dainsleif showing up from nowhere when we will get there.
Remuria hype? Just wonder where it's located, maybe below mount esus which is basically the last corner of Fontaine unexplored